Biblical Role of Government | Punishing Evil and Rewarding Good

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All right, I don't know if you
saw this news on Facebook.

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California is now going to start
providing diapers for all newly

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born babies.
Wow.

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Every baby, no matter what.
That was the news.

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That's what.
At least that's what Gavin

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Newsom said.
Nice.

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California's just killing it.
I mean, they're, they're doing

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so good.
Maybe people will move back

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there, you know?
I saw this thing about how long

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it's taken for them to build
their high speed rail.

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And it's like at this, it gave
all these historical things that

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have been built faster.
But.

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So I commented on the story and
I said, well, I have it down

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here.
It isn't government's job to

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take care of us.
Wow.

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So, so rebellious.
Yeah.

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And this guy comes behind me and
he says, also, not the

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government's job to force you to
carry a fetus, but here we are.

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Wow.
Oh, OK.

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And that kind of that I would
like to call it a righteous

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indignation, but it was, it was
at least an indignation.

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And so I copied my exact comment
here, which I know that some

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people might be.
It's a little bit fiery, but I

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feel like sometimes we need to
publicly call out.

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Bring the.
Fire.

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So I say what a ridiculous
response and I want to call it

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out as such.
Shame on you.

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Yes, it is indeed the job of the
government to enforce laws that

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stop the murder of anyone, and
especially the most vulnerable

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and anyone, including and
especially the most vulnerable

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and innocent among us.
The government exists to punish

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evil and reward good.
Abortion on demand is an evil.

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A fetus is an unborn human and
has the rights thereof.

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Full stop.
What an evil man you are.

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Nights and he responds.
He did not.

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Shut it down.
Shut it down.

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I guess I, you know, I was
expecting like, OK, I'm about to

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catch some heat, but I'm willing
to to, to go to bat for the

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unborn and call evil for what it
is.

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Now that may be harsher than
what you would think.

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You know you, you, but I was
like, this is this is so.

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Well, that's good.
It begs the question, yeah,

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what's government there for?
Is it for handouts?

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Is it to quote UN quote, force
you to carry a fetus?

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Is that the right way to frame
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What, what is the force or what
are we protecting?

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I think that's really good
things.

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Those are good things to think
through.

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Cause a lot of us probably
haven't, I mean, a lot of

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probably have since COVID-19 and
stuff.

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But you know, it's good to.
I thought what is the proper

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role of government?
What's the proper role of

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government?
And what makes it tricky is you

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look at Scripture and government
was different under Caesar

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Augustus and Cyrus, and you know
what I mean?

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So it's like hard, it's like
America looks a lot different.

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There's a lot of things, a lot
of principles you have to draw

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from.
But I'm I'm excited to talk

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about this.
All right, well, with that,

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let's take it to the next level.
Let's fire up that twanga music.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
All right, so I said it in my

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opening comment when we talked,
and I said it in my comment on

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Facebook, that I think the core
purpose of government, I'm

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pulling this right from
Scripture.

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It's has delegated authority.
It's established by God to

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punish evil and reward good.
And, you know, some of the

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central text we would pull this
from is Romans, and we'll read

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that in a little bit, but it
goes all the way back to

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Genesis, to the foundation.
You know, creation, order of

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things is reflected in the
Mosaic law.

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So you might hear people say
sometimes you should.

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You can't legislate morality.
Yeah, that's heart change.

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Or, you know, you can't.
You can't.

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You know externals, you know
that kind of thing.

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Yeah, it's crazy because
marijuana has become legalized.

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Surveys indicate that more
people think that marijuana is

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OK to do, but when it was
illegal, more people thought it

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was OK.
So perhaps the law is informing

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people's heart and consciences.
Oh, that that's a good way to

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put it.
And it's here in the notes.

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I think this is like totally
gets up the crux of it.

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It's not should morality be
legislative?

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But who's morality?
Because there's no, you know,

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take it back to our lovely
presup thing.

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There's no neutrality.
Everyone's there.

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There's some sort of morality
being enforced.

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When you think of every law and
implications, it's good to think

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through those.
And you have it here.

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Laws or moral judgments backed
by force.

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This is what we have government
as Americans, we don't like to

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tell, you know we don't.
We, we don't like people

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opposing force, but we all know
that's what governments there to

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tell you what not like.
Don't do that or there will be

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consequences.
Because if you disobey the

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government, eventually it's
going to be some type of force,

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even if you're just put in jail
or up to, you know, the death

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penalty.
That's right.

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So the the government is forcing
you to do certain things.

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And so the question is, is that
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Is that OK?
And if so, what are those types

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of things?
So some key text maybe you can

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read for us Romans 13 one
through 7.

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I put DNASB in the notes so that
we could have that.

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That's great.
I'll, I'll just, I'll suffer

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through it.
Every person is to be in

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subjection to the governing
authorities, for there is no

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authority except from God, and
those which exist are

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established by God.
Therefore, whoever resists

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authority has opposed the
ordinance of God, and they who

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have opposed will receive
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For rulers, not a cause of fear
for good behavior, but for evil.

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Do you want to have No Fear of
authority?

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Do what's good, and you will
have praise from the same.

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For it's a minister of God to
you for good.

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But if you do what's evil, be
afraid, for it does not bear the

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sword for nothing.
For it's a minister of God, an

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avenger who brings wrath on the
one who practices evil.

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Therefore it's necessary to be
in subjection, not only because

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of wrath, but also for
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For because of this you also pay
taxes for rulers or servants of

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God, devoting themselves to this
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Render to all what is due them
tax to whom taxes due custom, to

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whom fear, to whom fear honor to
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Sounds pretty positive for
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I don't like hearing this as an
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I know and it says pay your
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Do you know how many people I I
I read all the time taxation is

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bad?
Sometimes taxation can be.

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Especially without
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Especially.
If it's without representation,

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but you can't just say blanket
all taxes are theft because

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you're not reading your
scripture if you do so Key ideas

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from what you just read.
Government is instituted by God.

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It's a great starting point,
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Yeah, and we, you know, just a
caveat 'cause we have this in

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our notes below as a caveat.
In our previous podcast, we

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talked about it.
That doesn't mean that

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everything that government does
is sanctioned by by God and is

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morally upright.
We recognize God knows that some

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governments are better than
others, and some governments do

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some really evil things, but
government as a whole is

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sanctioned by God.
I think it's going to see in

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Scripture pictures of really
positive governments and picture

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where it's not positive and how
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that.
I I like it's we mentioned it's

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not all the same as America
today, but we do have examples

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that are said this is good, this
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I will judge this.
I will bless this.

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That's good.
Civil rulers possess delegated

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authorities, not ultimate
authority, and some of the key

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things government exists to
reward good and punish evil.

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Yeah, it gets I'm I I love that.
Like in a perfect world, I, I'm

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gonna like, like talking about
this more as we apply it to real

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world application because
sometimes you look at you're

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like government, you're doing
the not just missing the mark,

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but.
It's very opposite and and you

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know, there are scriptures
that's like woe to them who live

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in the days where good is called
evil and evil is called good.

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We we see that sometimes it.
It it is tricky too in a quote

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UN quote, you know, so much
Christian influence.

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It's like, you know, you look at
the things in courthouses and

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stuff and you're like, man,
you're just like missing the

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mark so much.
But I like that the whole

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purpose, reward good, punish
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That's great.
All right, and then it also says

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it bears the sword.
The sword was an instrument of

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death.
You know, Jesus said to his

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disciples, do you have a sword?
Like go get a sword.

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You need a sword like we've got
two.

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I'm like that's enough like so
you know that that is swords

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were not foreboden to Jesus, but
they for us to have.

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But that's a side point.
But government, but government

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is directly said to bear the
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You know, I don't know if it
says it directly, but it implies

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on behalf of God, like they are
the servant of God to bring

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about this justice.
So Romans 13, does this mean no

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matter what the government says,
like buckle up, Like, hey, we

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will support your government
wholeheartedly no matter what?

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Yeah.
So that, you know, we kind of

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also addressed this in our
previous how not to read the

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Bible.
They just happen to have some

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overlap there.
But we talked about, you know,

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the Hebrew midwives, they
disobey, They paid Pharaoh, they

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didn't follow the law.
Daniel prayed and God blessed

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him for that.
He didn't follow the law.

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Peter told the Jews an act, you
know, we must obey God rather

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than men.
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Yeah, Talk about governmental
structure that embraced, you

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know, Judaism, but its practice
was so against the God of the

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Old Testament.
That's a yeah.

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So we're not saying that just
because government is instituted

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by God and it carries delegated
authority, that means that we

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should always obey it.
There are times when we will

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have to necessarily disobey it
when it will order something

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evil for us to do.
And you know, there's different

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way, you know, different people
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throughout history.
Sometimes, you know, we call it

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like civil disobedience where
you say, hey, I'm just going to

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disobey.
I'll take the punishment.

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Some have been more of
rebellious and we've seen God

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bless some of that too.
I'm not saying that you I'm, I'm

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not trying to start an
insurrection or anything like

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that.
But but you have seen throughout

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history both of these responses
where people have submitted to

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the punishment but refused to
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Sometimes people have, you know,
rebelled against government in

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in a forceful way, and it seems
like that is definitely a wisdom

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issue.
Yeah, I I think you're right.

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Another foundational text,
Genesis 9.

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I'm going to read verses 5 and
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And for your lifeblood, I will
require A reckoning.

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From every beast I will require
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And from man, from his fellow
man, I will require A reckoning

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for the life of man.
Whoever sheds the blood of man

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by man shall his blood be shed,
For God made man in his own

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image.
All right, so this passage

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occurs before Abraham.
It's early.

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Yeah, very early.
There's no Abrahamic covenant.

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There's no Mosaic covenant.
God has not selected out a

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certain people to himself, and
God has just basically destroyed

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all the people except for Noah
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And so you could say that God is
telling this to all of mankind

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right now.
That's good.

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So that we would say that this
is like a universal principle

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for humanity, that human life
possesses dignity because man is

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made in God's image.
Therefore, the death penalty for

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murder is rooted in just
justice, image bearing,

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protection of society.
Yeah, this is good because I, I

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feel like, you know, you hear
this argument sometimes, like

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Christians, you're just OK with
killing people for the death

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penalty.
You're like, you're kind of

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missing like the whole point of
something like that, right?

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Right, especially in context of
like the pro-life pro-choice

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discussion.
Like if you're pro-life, how are

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you for the death penalty?
And here's how I value human

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life so much that if you take it
in a in a bad way, we're going

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to take your life because to not
value it would be like, oh, you

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killed.
Someone.

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No big deal.
No, this is a huge deal.

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And so we we're going to follow
you're going to take out an

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image bearer than government
should take take you out.

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So by this I think we can see
biblically the legitimate, the

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legitimacy of civil punishment,
of capital punishment, and the

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human responsibility to restrain
violence, like we're supposed to

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stop violence occurring in our
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Now that that that is so good,
I, I can't wait for the next

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part of this 'cause I think this
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the practical matters and where
there's a lot of people on

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different sides saying the same
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We're trying to do good, and
what they say is good varies

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greatly.
Yeah, so if government is to

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punish evil and reward good,
then you have to know, or at

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least have a definition for your
government, what is good, What

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is evil?
What are we basing that on?

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What does justice look like?
Is justice a $20 fine for every

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crime that it probably doesn't
seem to fit certain crimes

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definitely need more than that.
What is harm?

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So, you know, is me holding up a
sign saying I'm praying for you?

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Is that harm?
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harm, then we're going to need
to, right?

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And then what are those rights?
And so if you go back and look

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at our Constitution talks about,
you know, having inalienable

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rights from our creator, that
we're endowed with those rights.

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So that's even a better
conversation too.

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Like if you have rights, what
are they based in or where do

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you draw them?
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know, opens up different,
different thought processes.

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Yeah.
So not this episode, but we

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should probably at some point
talk time talk about like

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positive rights versus negative
rights in our Constitution.

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So, yeah.
And this, this will be a series,

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but we don't, I don't have all
the notes ready written for it,

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but that remind us and we'll
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All right, so we talked about
this earlier, the statement, you

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can't legislate morality.
It really is a vacuous statement

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because we are going to
legislate someone's view of what

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is moral.
So all legislation reflects

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morality.
So our laws against murder,

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against theft, against fraud,
against discrimination are

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environmental laws or tax laws,
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Those all are based in some type
of idea of what's good and

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what's evil.
No, so so good.

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Doesn't matter if you are
religious or secular moralities.

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The name of the game.
That's right.

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OK, so I thought for this first
episode we could really hone in

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on this idea of legislating
morality and see how it works

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because there's big discussion
right now.

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Texas is putting the 10
commandments in the public

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schools.
And I don't, I don't know that

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that's a huge deal.
I don't know that that that

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alone is going to bring people
to Christ.

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I'm not against it, but I'm not,
it's not like something that I'm

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going to.
It's not a hill to die on for

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me.
But, you know, it causes a whole

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bunch of stuff.
I guess the first three I I

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mean, the only one that would be
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is have no other gods before me.
Oh.

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Yeah, yeah, I could see.
That don't make a graven image,

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don't take the Lord's name in
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Go to church, keep the Sabbath
day holy.

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That's not keep Sabbath day holy
is not even really go to church.

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It's something different, but I
thought we could look at

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something as innocuous as lying.
Is that your legal?

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Yeah, lock everyone up.
They're just things as a white

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lie.
Yeah, so there are some lies

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that you can say all the all the
time.

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Like, you know, I could say,
man, the Steelers, they're a

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great team.
Like the the Patriots never

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cheat.
Yeah, there's a lot of things

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you could try.
Just kidding.

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Yeah.
Right, right.

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So lying is on a continuum
because there are different

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levels of lying.
One of the 10 commandments is

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thou shalt not bear false
witness.

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And you might think, oh, well,
lying's not, it's a sin, but

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it's not criminal.
But there are instances of it

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that it is criminal.
So let's talk about those.

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So you could have examples of
exaggeration.

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Like, man, I threw that ball 60
yards.

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You're like, you really threw it
45.

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Yeah, yeah.
That's.

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Great politeness.
Oh, you look great.

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Great job today on that spot.
It's like perfect.

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That's right.
Fictional stories that you know,

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you just make up something to
bolster.

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Maybe even Santa Claus.
Wow man, that's the lie of all

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lies.
The government's not looking to

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punish those lies.
We're not.

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We don't have policemen out
there like putting you into the

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ground.
You only threw that ball 45

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yards, you know?
Yeah, come on.

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But some lies are socially
destructive.

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Talking, talking about the Pats,
Have you seen Stefan Diggs?

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Have you seen the result?
I saw some footage of the trial

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'cause we talked about this in
one banter previously, but this

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video released of his cook
dancing.

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I saw a testimony of and she
just not a credible witness.

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At all.
And everyone's like, you know,

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she should be punished with
whatever punishment that

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Stephane potentially would have
gotten for falsely accusing him.

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But so that's a lie.
That's and so we would call that

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perjury lying Underoath.
There's fraudulent lying,

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there's embezzlement, false
reporting, like on taxes or

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returns.
You could forge someone's name,

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you know, defamation.
So if I, if I go out and I start

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saying, you know, this PT, you
know, company, they did this and

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such and such, I could be sued
or held criminally reliable for

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lying.
There's also some civil suits

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like slander, libel, breach of
contract, fraudulent inducement.

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So these things, we do recognize
this continuum where we're

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taking this commandment and
we're codifying it in some

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instances, we're not trying to
catch it all.

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That's right.
That's unrealistic.

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No one wants that anyway.
It's drawing that line to what

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rises to the occasion.
Man, this is destructive to

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society.
And anyway, on some of these

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things you listed, you get in
trouble to a lesser degree than

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something else.
And even the same thing,

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depending on how high profile or
how much slander or what the

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effects were, you would have
different punishments.

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That's right.
So lying.

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One of the 10 commandments is
codified in a law.

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Obviously not all of it.
So here's this other one, murder

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and violence.
Obviously we have a commandment

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you shall not murder and lying.
It's kind of, you know, bearing

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false testimony is probably the
worst if you're in court.

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And so murderer is probably the
worst.

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But there's this whole continuum
of physical harm that we can

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cause people and like at the
lowest level would be like

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justifiable self-defense.
Like that's fine.

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Have you seen these cases of
like Canada or England where

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like someone breaks in their
house and they're like they've

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got a weapon but you can't, even
if they're in your house, you

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can't defend yourself?
United States, I think it was

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Gary, IN.
OK, yeah, just recently two

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people broke into the house.
A guy open fired on them and he

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is getting charged.
Not the people that broke into

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his house.
Maybe the people who are broken

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the house are also getting
charged, but he's getting

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charged.
For it seems weird, like I

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understand like not like hunting
someone down to miles away, but

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if like there's still if there
there could be a threat like you

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just don't know like.
And I've heard some Texas

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sheriff's like, hey, don't go
into someone's house at night.

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You're basically signing a death
warrant for yourself.

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Yeah, don't do it.
Because they have no idea of

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knowing.
The on the other side of things,

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I've seen, I've seen stories of
people like, and I do it all the

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time, 'cause I'm driving a lot,
like turning around in someone's

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driveway and getting shot
because they're on their

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PowerPoint.
Don't shoot people.

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They're just doing it you.
Turn.

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Yeah, there has to be
reasonable, you know, a

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suspicion of death or bodily
harm.

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But yeah, we would say
self-defense causes physical

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harm, but it's at that spectrum
like that's fine.

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Whereas negligence could also
cause physical harm, battery,

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aggravated assault,
manslaughter, second degree

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murder, first degree murder.
And we see some of this codified

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in the Levitical law.
Self-defense is there,

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accidental death is there,
there's a different penalty for,

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you know, someone lying in wait
versus someone who kills in in

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the heat of the moment.
So those are codified into our

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law because we have different
punishments for different levels

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of those actions.
And we try to, you know, measure

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intentionality.
Was it reckless?

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Was there negligence?
You know, we try to keep it all

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fair.
I'll let you take this next one.

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Sexual ethics, Everyone's
favorite commandment, You shall

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not commit adultery.
You look at laws on the books.

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There's a lot of adultery laws,
sodomy laws, obscenity laws.

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And you know, it is interesting
as you look towards, you know,

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what government should do.
I think all these are good

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thought experiments.
Like maybe you don't agree with

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homosexuality.
Do you ban marriage only and say

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homosexuality's fine?
Do you say, you know, it's like

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you've got all these different
things to think about about, you

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know, at what level is it OK or
bad or enough to rise, you know,

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being criminal anyway?
Modern governments, you know,

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they'll criminalize rape, sexual
assault, exploitation,

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trafficking, abuse of minors.
There's all of these different

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levels, but not every sexual
thing is criminalized.

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If it was, there'd be a lot of
people locked up.

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That's right.
So I think it is a good thought

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experiment of cause.
Government can be permissive, it

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can promote it.
Right.

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Yeah, maybe don't for sure.
You would say don't, don't

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promote or glamorize or give all
these incentives at the very

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least.
Or yeah, or you could punish

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that.
Yeah.

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So and it's like there, I think
especially in this area, there's

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some practical issues.
It's like do you want a

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government that's like barging
in in an apartment with two

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guys?
Like OK, are y'all just

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roommates sharing cost or is
there something more going on

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here that seems a little
heavy-handed to me?

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Agreed.
Agreed.

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But at the same time, I don't
think we should be legalizing

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same sex marriage or same sex
unions.

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So I think there's a fine line
here.

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I I think that adultery should
be, you know, and there are

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still some laws on the books and
people still get caught up with

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them.
Like if you ruin a marriage.

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I saw some, some news story
where there's some law where if

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you are a marriage ruiner, like
if a gal starts like, you know,

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flirting with a guy who's
married, that gal can be, you

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know, and, and, and have some
financial liability and, and all

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that as well.
Yeah.

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And, and we don't see this.
Well, you kind of see this, you

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know, you know, if like the
United States is trying to

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promote marriage, you might say,
hey, if you're married, you get

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a tax break.
Like it's like the opposite of

455
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,880
criminalizing and try to, you
know, give all these incentives

456
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,520
that that's good because
presumably families are are

457
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,160
good, you know, but then yeah,
it gets.

458
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,080
And then the other thing even
further, it's like, man, if you

459
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160
ever thought like Michael, you
were king today, what would you

460
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,120
do?
It's hard maybe to do a 180 in

461
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,240
some circumstances.
But you know, like, you know, I

462
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600
don't know, you know which hills
you die on, which ones you

463
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320
don't, how far you push things,
how far you incremental, I don't

464
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:06,760
know.
But.

465
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,880
Yeah.
And, and that's one of the the

466
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,440
complaints about, you know, some
of the Old Testament laws are

467
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,040
like, well, they didn't get rid
of all slaves.

468
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,200
Well, one thing most slaves back
then came from conquering

469
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,680
another nation.
And so you're owning that land

470
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,280
and you have to do something
with the military age guys.

471
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,000
But slaves were treated well
under the Mosaic law.

472
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,120
I mean, maybe not perfect.
They didn't have the same status

473
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,120
as a citizen, but they had
better status in the

474
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,760
surrounding.
And so you can say you can see

475
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,760
how God is incrementally, you
know, helping to change culture,

476
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,640
which kind of goes to, you know,
like if you were a king of the

477
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,440
day, you probably couldn't
change everything immediately,

478
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,080
but you could kind of start
turning the ship in some areas.

479
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,120
That that, that's great.
All right, another one of the 10

480
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:56,600
commandments don't steal, you
know, and so this is codified

481
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,800
into our laws.
Petty theft.

482
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,040
I like this.
Too, If you ever watch Ray

483
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200
Comfort, he'll be like, what do
you call someone who lies a

484
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,760
liar?
What goes on to steal people

485
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,080
half the time will be like
Steelers, Yeah.

486
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,280
The Steelers are, they're bad,
right?

487
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,240
They know, they know it's.
But you know, we had different

488
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600
levels.
Petty theft, shoplifting,

489
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,440
robbery, armed robbery, Grand
Theft, embezzlement, identity

490
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,920
fraud, fraud.
So biblically, the solution to

491
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,800
this is often restitution,
unless there were some like harm

492
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,880
done.
And we'll, we'll talk about that

493
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,520
in the next episode.
So Exodus 22 goes through

494
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,640
different types of repayment.
I think there's different

495
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,160
reasons why you might have to
repay.

496
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Sometimes it's double, sometimes
it's fourfold, sometimes it's

497
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,240
fivefold.
And I don't want to get into

498
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,000
this too much, but I do want to
talk about next time, you know,

499
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,400
in the Levitical system, there's
really not a prison system.

500
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,800
They.
Didn't have for profit prisons

501
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,520
in the testament.
And so you really, we kind of

502
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,880
balk at all of the capital
punishment, but it's really

503
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,680
either capital punishment or
some type of payment or

504
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,160
restitution.
That's so interesting in

505
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,480
ultimate next time, 'cause it's
like it's the industry of the

506
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,600
prisons.
It's like, it's like it's a

507
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,200
whole separate problem, you
know, not saying there's not a

508
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,880
place for it, but it's, it's
interesting that that wasn't in

509
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,600
the Mosaic Law.
But government and family, you

510
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440
know, you think of the
commandment to honor your father

511
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,240
and mother and you think, well,
that couldn't be, you know, we

512
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,320
couldn't codify that in the law.
But there are some instances,

513
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,440
you know, if you think about the
theme of that, you know, truancy

514
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,640
laws, not going to school,
juvenile crime laws, child abuse

515
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,200
laws.
So this is more on the parents

516
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,120
child neglect laws.
So again, there's a spectrum

517
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,320
where you have this, the
government recognizes a parent

518
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,840
child relationship, the duties
of the parent to care for the

519
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,280
child, the duties of the child
to kind of be underneath that

520
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,400
government, the parents
authority, you know, all the

521
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,760
times where you have to have
parent permission to do stuff.

522
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Yeah.
Totally.

523
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Yeah, so it recognizes it,
although again, we're not saying

524
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,840
that if a toddler tells their
parent no, call 911 and get the

525
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,040
cops there.
You know what I'm saying?

526
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,160
So there's a spectrum where
we're not trying to codify every

527
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:19,720
sin, but you can see that it is
in the the the warp and woof of

528
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,240
our society.
Maybe some things that

529
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,200
government shouldn't enforce.
And, and this is a good

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,480
conversation, you know, idol
worship should should we arrest

531
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,600
people who worship an idol?
Right, right.

532
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Yeah, like you mentioned before,
like, yeah, practically what?

533
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,000
What would this look like?
Are you like, you know, just on

534
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,840
idol patrol, like, you know, all
these things and then no other

535
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,600
gods, like, right.
Yeah.

536
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,920
I mean, it's hard.
It's hard to nail nail that

537
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000
down, taking God's name in vain.
Yeah.

538
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,960
It's like one of those things
that it's like, man if.

539
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680
You said it in public in the
1950s, you probably would spend

540
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080
a day in jail in some, in some
places.

541
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Whereas today we, we, you know,
we are very invested in the 1st

542
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Amendment.
In some ways, some, some ways,

543
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,360
it's still getting trampled on.
But, you know, we would say,

544
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,320
hey, that's protected free
speech.

545
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:23,360
You may not like it, and I and I
like the fact that it's the the

546
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,200
speech that we disagree with is
the speech that needs to be

547
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,480
protected.
We don't need to protect the

548
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,840
speech that we agree with
because if the government is in

549
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,360
a position to say this speech is
bad, this speech is good.

550
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Be careful, Christians, because
sharing the gospel could become

551
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760
hate speech, you know?
So I'd want the governments to

552
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960
allow me to, to speak freely as
long as I, you know, this is a

553
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,160
classic yelling fire in a
theater, you know?

554
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that kind of stuff.

555
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,720
That's right.
That's.

556
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Right.
Or making threats that are that

557
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,680
are that are viable threats.
OK, Sabbath laws.

558
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Yeah, man.
There's some blue law still on

559
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040
the books, like liquor stores
aren't open here in certain

560
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,600
counties in South Carolina or in
certain counties on Sundays.

561
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Yeah, I think there was a time
where you couldn't buy lottery

562
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,200
tickets on Sundays or something
like that, man, It's.

563
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Chick-fil-A's not open.
Chick-fil-A.

564
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920
It's against the law.
So I can't do it.

565
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,640
So, you know, there, there,
we're not saying that we're not

566
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,400
trying to make America a
theocracy.

567
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320
I don't think that's either one
of our goals.

568
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,200
And I'm not saying that we
should try to make America a

569
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
theocracy or, or, you know,
ancient Israel.

570
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,720
But we, I, I think it is a
little bit nonsensical for the

571
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640
10 commandments, especially, you
know, the last, you know, six of

572
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,600
them to get as much hate as as
they do.

573
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,720
All right, I I think that's a
good, a good, a good stopping

574
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,280
point.
We we had a couple different

575
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,320
places, you know, depending on
how long that took, but I think

576
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,840
that's that's good.
I.

577
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Think that's good?
You can tease it up.

578
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600
We got some good stuff to cover.
Next time.

579
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,080
We'll we'll talk about prisons
next time.

580
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,280
What else?
We're talking about next time.

581
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Well, I also want to look at
some principles that we can

582
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,760
extract from the Mosaic Law,
even though we wouldn't, we

583
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,440
wouldn't implement some of the
laws, but like what?

584
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,800
What purpose did this law have
in their society that may inform

585
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,480
us on types of laws that are OK
for us to have in our society?

586
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,400
I like, I like that.
Yeah, look at it.

587
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Because some people might say
let's just let's get it all

588
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,600
back.
Let's do it.

589
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,760
You know, if it's not explicitly
rejected, like why not?

590
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,600
But I like where you're going at
probably more of the substance

591
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,520
or the principles, like what?
What's what's really there?

592
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,920
I love it.
All right, final take.

593
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Final take What's going on with
you, Michael?

594
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Well, we talked a little bit.
So I have been so right at the

595
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,040
beginning of the year I was
working out and then it's like

596
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,880
we got into crazy life and there
was like, you know, maybe six

597
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,920
weeks where I didn't go into to
the gym at all.

598
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760
We were still.
So I've been back in the gym

599
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160
regularly.
I think I I'm going to work out

600
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,560
tonight when we're done here.
Hey, it is a I'm a late night

601
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,800
work lifter.
So but I've gotten up.

602
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
So I normally do progressive
loading.

603
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,400
So I'll like always start out
with 135 S, play it on each

604
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600
side.
I'll do 5 reps of that and

605
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:28,120
that's for bench and squat.
And then I'll add like 30 lbs

606
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,080
and then add 30 lbs and keep
going up.

607
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160
And I I typically do will do 5
total sets.

608
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640
I'll get up to whatever my
highest left to.

609
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:44,640
So my most recent one was 235
five times on the bench, which

610
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,960
is pretty, pretty good.
And then 255 squatting.

611
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,720
You know, the bench I'm, I'm
pretty happy with coming up that

612
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,040
fast.
I think my Max in college was

613
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,480
like 280. 5 So so we're gonna.
So maybe, you know, six months

614
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,760
from now, I'll be.
That's pretty cool.

615
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,600
Yeah, Yeah.
Deadlift and squat got, we got

616
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,160
some work, we've got some ground
to cover, but I think it will

617
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520
come back faster 'cause I see my
squat, you know, coming up

618
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,040
faster.
So squatting with 255 by 5.

619
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Are you able to work out?
You probably.

620
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Are you able to work out like
during the IT probably doesn't

621
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,360
make sense.
You come back at night like you

622
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560
can't fit it in, can you?
Are you able to fit it in or is

623
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
it being used like like right
after school?

624
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, probably.

625
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Now I could, but football's
starting to get in there for

626
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,360
offseason and I always try to do
it.

627
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,400
I'm not to interfere.
If there were there, there's

628
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800
another.
I like free weights.

629
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Oh yeah, Yeah, I don't like a
lot of machines.

630
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Yeah.
If there was a gym that was

631
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800
close by, that was.
There is a gym that I think it's

632
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,760
like on somewhere near Walmart
between Walmart and Taco Bell or

633
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,760
something.
You should just use like

634
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Walmart's like fitness section,
just like a.

635
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Little in here it.
Doesn't work out.

636
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320
I cancelled, you know, as part
of my New Year's resolution, I

637
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,880
cancelled my membership to
Planet Fitness.

638
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120
It was crazy.
Like I was like, you know, I was

639
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,000
coming in.
It was January and everyone's in

640
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
there and like I'm coming in to
cancel my my.

641
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240
But I just never used.
It so you.

642
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Have to do it in person at
Planet Fitness.

643
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in person.
That's a smart business model.

644
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280
I got to come in in person.
Unless you're live in

645
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,240
California.
Oh, then you can.

646
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Yeah, there.
You go.

647
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760
So I saw some people say if you
change your personal record to

648
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,600
some address in California and
and then you can cancel it

649
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840
online, but I I didn't try that.
I just went in.

650
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,560
So yeah, goal is 1000 LB club.
Yeah, that's a good goal, yeah.

651
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Getting there for for a guy my
size, it should be 'cause I was

652
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,120
talking to a Co worker and he
was like kind of kind of balking

653
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,440
at me already benching that
much.

654
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,680
I'm like.
Oh yeah.

655
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a six, four guy.

656
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,560
I'm a big guy.
So that means for me to lift 235

657
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
is not as impressive as if you
were to lift 235.

658
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Yeah, I am not.
I would not do well on maxing

659
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,080
out which I'm not maxing out.
Well, I'm, I'm been working out.

660
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,639
I work out.
If you can imagine you probably

661
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,679
blows your mind with not super
heavy weights.

662
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,960
Michael, I've been doing a lot
of kettlebell work, a lot of

663
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,480
like ring pull ups of I just my
shoulder.

664
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,480
My shoulders hurt when I use a
barbell.

665
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,760
I just don't have good range of
motion.

666
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,480
I end up getting injured from
lifting from lifting.

667
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
'Cause that was my friend was
talking about my Co worker who

668
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,199
was saying, you know, for do a
back squat.

669
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,880
It really I'm like, well, you
got to, you got to stretch your

670
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,800
shoulders out and stuff.
And you totally have to have

671
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,920
good.
Yeah, I do.

672
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,480
I do some stretches and stuff
where I before I start

673
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,480
squatting.
That's good.

674
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,400
I've got I've got scoliosis and
I I think the way my frame is it

675
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,880
if when I start loading it, I
and it no matter how much a

676
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,800
painted to my form.
But so everything I I do is like

677
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,360
I've got range of motion in my
arms, but it's not like a.

678
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,800
Chiropractor I I.
Should see a professional.

679
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,360
The downside is you can move
much less weight when you're,

680
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
you know, doing a, you know, a
dumbbell versus a barbell.

681
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,960
So, you know, there you go.
I don't know.

682
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Well, squatting doesn't bother
me as much.

683
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,240
It's more like overhead press or
bench press or those kind of

684
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,400
things.
I end up just getting injured.

685
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320
I don't do overhead press yet.
I've, you know, that used to be

686
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,800
like the press, like bench, like
if you go back to like the 50s

687
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
and 60s, it's like no one cared
about your bench press.

688
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,040
It was your, they just called it
the press.

689
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,960
So you're over.
And they still call it if

690
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,600
someone says press.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

691
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,920
I'm assuming it's shoulder press
'cause I'll they'll say bench

692
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
press they'll say bench.
Oh, gotcha.

693
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:35,840
Yeah.
Press.

694
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,400
Yeah, yeah.
Comma, even though it is bench

695
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,720
press and I've impressed, but
yeah, I I've only been doing the

696
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:46,440
big three so far.
Well, I actually added, what did

697
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
I add?
I added Romanian.

698
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,400
Deadlifts, yeah.
Get those two is rolling 'cause

699
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,640
my wife said that I should fill
out my glutes some more like,

700
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,120
you know, the typical old man,
your glutes go away.

701
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,600
And so I asked Chad, I was like,
what should I add to, you know,

702
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,800
build back some, some glutes?
And it was like Romanian.

703
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,760
It does.
Romanian deadlifts.

704
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040
That's good.
I've been going hard.

705
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,400
It was beautiful weather this
weekend for frisbee.

706
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,240
It was not like.
It was nice.

707
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:24,000
I got a cool 6 miles in of like
you know, Sprint like slow,

708
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,960
fast, slow, fast.
I did.

709
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,320
I did not run 23 miles an hour.
I, I decreased I was like only

710
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,200
20 miles an hour for my fastest,
but you know, can't, can't.

711
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Run them all but the Garmin can
be believed.

712
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Yeah, the Garmin.
What a Yeah.

713
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,440
I can't, can't trust it.
But yeah, fitness is good.

714
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,400
That's great.
Yeah.

715
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,360
So you're teaching?
Class on this some some point

716
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040
right?
Yeah, I, I would like to teach

717
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,600
one.
I would have loved to teach 1A

718
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,440
theology of exercise or maybe
make it a little more broad.

719
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,320
I was thinking there's a book
with this title, basically, I

720
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,320
didn't know this, but I was
like, as I was researching, I'd

721
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,560
like to do call it a call it
fearfully and wonderfully made a

722
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,880
biblical theology of the body or
something like that.

723
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,760
You know what I mean?
Like something like that.

724
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,480
I.
Think that'd be?

725
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,200
Great, and just look at some
definitions and move towards

726
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,080
practical stuff.
My radio it's currently set to

727
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,800
is it BBN?
Oh, OK.

728
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Is that the the radio station
that's kind of got the old stuff

729
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,760
you don't?
Know, maybe I I don't know.

730
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Yeah.
Oh, OK, I don't.

731
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Know.
But it but it had a John

732
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,360
MacArthur.
'Cause I'm Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

733
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,360
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mostly just get right to

734
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,320
podcast or audio book, so it's
just there.

735
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
It's been a very long time now.
I know what you're.

736
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,120
I don't know, but yeah, yeah.
So John MacArthur was was on

737
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,680
there and I just caught like a
little bit of it.

738
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,640
But he's preaching out of
Esther, OK.

739
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,640
And he talks about the beauty
treatments and he is like.

740
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Note that the Bible does not
speak negatively of the beauty

741
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,840
treatments that Esther went
through.

742
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,120
Contrary.
To this this.

743
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Current thought and feminism
that you can do nothing to your

744
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,040
body and expect to have a man be
attracted to you.

745
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400
He's like, obviously physical
beauty is not the focus of the

746
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,640
Bible, but the Bible does at
point different points talk

747
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,440
about, you know, basically
taking care of yourself and and

748
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,440
and so I thought, well, that's
interesting for Johnny Mack to

749
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Johnny be saying that.
Rowan.

750
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Yeah, that's good.
I'll have to steal that from

751
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,480
him.
Yeah, I like it.

752
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,760
Well, great.
Anything else you got?

753
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,280
That's all I got.
All right, that's our take.

754
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880
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755
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756
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