March 17, 2025

Foundations for Christian Unity: Truth & Humility

Foundations for Christian Unity: Truth & Humility

Episode 116


In this episode, we explore the biblical foundations of Christian unity, focusing on how truth and humility shape our relationships. We'll discuss how adopting the mind of Christ fosters harmony, how humility guides us in handling discord, and the practical steps we can take to maintain unity within the body of Christ. Join us as we examine key scriptures and reflect on how humility truly breeds unity in our daily lives.


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So why?
Why the new prescription?

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Just time something precipitate
this.

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Well, it's just my annual
checkup and I was going to get a

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new pair of glasses regardless.
My last pair of glasses was for

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2016.
I don't even wear them in the

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evening normally unless I have
like a pink eye or something.

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So then you don't wear contacts?
But yeah, but happened to be

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that I did need a new
prescription, so my contacts

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prescription got a little bit
weaker because as you get older,

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you know, your vision goes out
some.

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So I am nearsighted.
So I don't need as strong a

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strength anymore.
But I have, you know, I can't.

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I know that, you know, there
were some fires that were

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started up around Myrtle Beach
that.

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Yeah, that.
I know too much.

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But you know, when I couldn't
wear my glasses in the National

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Forest when it when it, when
there was a burn ban, just cause

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of how strong they were.
You know, that sun instantly

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light fire.
So that's that's a joke.

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Not really true, but yeah.
So what's yours?

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You wear contacts.
I do.

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I'm like my left eye.
I think I get mixed up.

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I'll try.
It's like -3 and negative, like

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2-5, yeah.
So before my prescription change

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it was -5 in my right eye and
-4.25 in my left eye.

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But both of them click back by
1/4, so now it's negative 425

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and -4.
So.

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Yeah, it's, it's pretty bad.
She always laughs when, you

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know, she has to like, I guess
by law get my, you know, can you

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what you can, what you can see
without any correction.

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And I'm like, she's like, I know
you can't see this, but go ahead

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and give it your best shot.
So.

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But yeah, so I got some new
glasses.

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Oh, let's, let's see what we're
working with.

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These were wow so so it's like,
you know, negative, you know 8

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now that I'm getting corrected
so it's.

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Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, 'cause it's my contacts so

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I can't see this on very long,
but.

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I love it man.
We were just one podcast away

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from syncing up the glasses I.
Know yeah, you were yours last

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time but so I I had three pairs
of glasses on my shortlist and I

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was like this I'll probably get
this one but yeah I'll just ask

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the family and they'll all the
family was like don't get this

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one for sure this one no, no,
the one I had on my shortlist I

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was like whatever, it doesn't
matter so this is the one that

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they've done.
I I would have what a power move

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would have been.
If they're like, don't get this

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one.
You're like, too bad.

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Sorry, this is the one I'm
getting.

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Well, you look very smart and so
I'm going to put they.

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You cannot come off 'cause
you're as we all know, if you

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take off glasses, you are
instantly less capable.

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You wouldn't hit a man with
glasses, would you?

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It just changes.
It changes everything.

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So I don't know I'm going to
phrase this.

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I think this is something very
achievable.

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We'll make it easy and if you're
nailing it, we'll circle it in.

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But think of the top ten sports
in the world by fans, by people

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who say with their fans, And
then I if you can get we'll see

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if you can get six out of the 10
you win.

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I think that's doable, but it
but but it might some of these

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might surprise you.
So if you're now on them, we

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might keep going up.
So let's let's.

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See, and this is just.
Worldwide.

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Well, I mean like if I say
association football slash

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talker, I don't need to
differentiate between American

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soccer and FIFA Cup like it's
soccer is just like one of them.

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Right.
You need a different.

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Yeah, yeah.
Soccer's great.

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That's great, yeah.
So soccer.

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Nope.
We were looking for FIFA.

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No, I'm just getting you soccer.
That's number one, yeah.

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Soccer, yeah, I would say.
This one 3.5 billion.

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Yeah, that's that's and then
basketball.

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Basketball is on there.
I will say basketball is #7 on

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the.
List.

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Which it it is also a global
sport in China and stuff, so you

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would think it would.
Be because I was.

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I was because I was thinking,
well, I mean, American football,

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gridiron football.
So basketball seven with 800

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million football is on the list.
So we're going to be 3 strikes.

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That's one strike because it's
not on the.

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List it's American football is
not on the.

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List.
I'm going to review the list.

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American Football.
Gridiron football.

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Classic, classic American thinks
the world revolves around him.

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I'm just kidding.
No.

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Well, I just thought, you know,
you have lots of folks and it's

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broadening like they're they.
They they play in England, they

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play in Germany like one game a.
Year whatever.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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So, so to give you context,
basketball is 800 million #7

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because when I think of
basketball like Kobe Bryant

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shoot Yao Ming, like really it's
like that's pretty global.

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And that's only that's all the
way down 7.

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So some of these are obscure
sports slash.

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All right, all right not.
Obscure, but.

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And so you're just saying if
they have fan, fan.

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Bases Yeah, I I just googled
this so I don't I mean, this

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might be.
All right, I get 3 strikes.

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You get 3 strikes.
That's just one strike.

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You're good.
Tennis.

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Tennis is number four with 1
billion fans.

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So now, yeah, I think you're
thinking in the right direction.

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Some of these like weird ones
like that.

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I mean, I got to go with America
and Latin America and say

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baseball.
Baseball is number 8, just under

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basketball, 500 million.
Japan's huge with baseball.

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OK, cricket.
Cricket is number 2, right

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behind soccer. 2.5 billion.
That's like the big one between

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Asia, Australia, the UKI.
Want to say one that I think is

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crazy.
Live a little.

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You got 2.
More strikes.

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OK, golf.
Golf is number 10, but that's

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right, 450 million.
You're like golf who?

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Because there's people that like
golf much less that would say

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they're golf fans.
Like it's different golfing than

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like it's.
Crazy to me that worldwide there

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are more golf fans than American
football fans.

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Yeah.
I'm hey, don't hate the player,

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hate the.
Game I I still got 2 strikes.

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So yeah, I.
Mean you can live rugby.

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Rugby is number 9, just above
golf 435,000,000 really big in

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South Africa, Oceana and
England.

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Polo.
Polo, that's a good guess 'cause

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that's off the beaten path a
little bit.

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That is not on the list, that is
trick #2.

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So let me see.
So you've gotten soccer, I may

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have cricket, tennis,
basketball, baseball, golf.

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And what?
And you did just now?

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Rugby, rugby, Yeah.
So you've got 7.

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So you're just playing with
house money here.

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So you, you get the challenge.
You only have three more 1 one.

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I want to Fact Check like.
I don't believe this at all.

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Well, so I I'm not making any
guesses, but here's some of the

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forces that are going through my
mind.

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The cross was going through my
mind, 'cause I was thinking the

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cross and polo.
Kind of.

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Kind of together, I mean,
swimming, I don't think.

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Oh well, Northern climbs could
be ice hockey could could be

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something that's in there.
I can't imagine swimming would

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be there.
I don't see gymnastics as a

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sport that would be listed here.
I wish you would.

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I don't view gymnastics as a
sport.

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I just want to make a judgement
call there.

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I'm going to go with the
northern climes.

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This is risky.
I'm going to say ice hockey.

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So I this is the one I want to
Fact Check.

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This is number 3 on the list, 2
billion.

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It's it's and they're saying
because almost so much of Europe

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is into hockey, right?
Like Scandinavia, you know these

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north.
And it's like, I was thinking

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like, you got all Canada, all
the Scandinavians.

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And this also says hockey is
big.

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This, I want to Fact Check this.
It basically says everywhere,

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Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia,
I don't know, but the list says

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it, so we'll give you that.
So that was a good guess.

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So you've got 1234 78910.
You're missing right in the

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middle, the center port of the
chiasm 5. 6 I will, I will.

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It's probably wrong.
I'll hazard lacrosse.

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Not right, but a good guess the
the two sports 1.

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I don't think you would ever
guess.

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I would say this.
This is probably really big in

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Asia.
It is.

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Oh, table tennis table.
Tennis, that's the number six

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and then #5 this is a global
sport.

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I see highlights of this, like
on social with sports stuff.

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Your daughters probably
participate in some capacity.

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Volleyball, volleyball.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Volleyball.

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Sorry, sorry.
I.

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Love it.
That was pretty good though, you

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know, so the glasses work now
that's.

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Right, that's right.
All right.

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So I can take them off and be be
able to see against my eyes.

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You lost a lot of IQ points just
now.

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Just kidding.
Well, let's find a way to

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connect.
This with I think you're, you're

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gonna say like a wise man knows
how to be humble, right?

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That's that's exactly what I was
gonna say.

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Mailed it that.
That's our sermon.

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Hang in there.
Because it's not Romans.

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It's not Romans.
Let's take it to the next level

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from the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast, but
we take theology to the next

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level.
OK, Zach.

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So we just came off of what we
just alluded to, two sermons in

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Romans talking about weaker
brother, stronger brother.

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And of course, everyone knows
we're both stronger brothers.

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You know, we're not.
We're never going to be the

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weaker brothers.
That's what, that's what, that's

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what everyone thinks.
They're this.

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No, no one.
Yeah, That's that's so funny.

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But both of you know the
conflict that Paul was talking

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about.
Well, the the strife was over

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this conflict of differences and
thought about, you know, meat or

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alcohol or, you know, these
various things that some people

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might say, oh, it's fine.
Some people might disagree with.

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Well, right on the heels of
that, we have the sermon by Tim

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talking about how can we
basically still get along and,

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and it still kind of has an
idea, but it's shifting the

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focus to humility.
How can I, through my humility,

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you know, maybe see where
better, better understand where

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our differences are and then be
able to look at myself and then

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maybe help you see some places?
Yeah, very timely.

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Because if you are gonna, you
know, be that stronger brother,

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or you're gonna, you know,
humility comes in handy.

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So this is great.
And Tim has this counseling

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perspective and I like, I like
where he started identifying

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where people, you know, don't
see an eye.

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Where is there these discords?
He's got it mapped out nice and

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neatly about these three
different types of Discord.

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Yeah.
And so I thought we could start

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there.
The kind of the 1st and maybe

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maybe the most difficult is what
he calls fundamental Discord.

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That that sometimes that's hard
to see, see hard, hard to get

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through some of that depending
on how fundamental these things.

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Are right and and kind of the
Cliff Notes is our standards are

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different.
So I just believe something

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different about the world than
you.

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I you know, maybe this is the
weaker, stronger brother.

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I believe drinking alcohol is
wrong.

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I believe drinking alcohol is
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That's a that's a foundational
difference.

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I believe reading about elves
not OK, you know, So it's one of

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those fundamental differences
now.

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I'm just kidding.
So then after that, then maybe

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just it's a factual discord.
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politics, like you, 'cause
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different sources.
And I've, and I've slowed my

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roll some 'cause, you know, I,
it's just, it's too much

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sometime to try to, you know,
like I just realized it's not my

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job to try to help everyone see
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I see.
But you talk about like, you

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know, someone that people don't
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Trump and you know, people like,
well, you know, dot dot dot.

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And then I'm like, no, I don't
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I think that was all made-up
like So then so the the kind of

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the shorter text for this is our
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Like we, it's not like, you
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Christians, we believe the same
things, that these things are

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wrong and that, you know, you
shouldn't do these things and we

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should do these things.
But we misunderstand, we, we

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don't agree on what the facts of
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So then we have a disagreement
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politician is OK, or he's the
best you know, or the you know,

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the least evil or the best you
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I think is a good example.
Someone's like man, someone

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seems like they love Trump with
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It's not true, but that's what
seems one person, the other

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person's like I really like his
policies.

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Don't like the guy.
That's probably what the other

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guy's thinking.
It's like you're closer than you

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think, but your stories are a
little off and it like maybe you

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come up like I'm a huge you
might, and the other guy almost

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comes off like he hates Trump.
It's like, no, actually, or I

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don't know, but you're actually
like kinda on the same closer

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than you think.
And so, yeah, just in

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transparency, I think there's
enough evidence to discount the

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Russian dossier.
I talked to Christians who to

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buy into that.
And so like, you know, how could

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you vote for a guy who did all
these things?

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Like, I don't think he did those
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If he did those things, then
that would give me further

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pause.
And and, and and and at some

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point, if everything's like
totally different, you're

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operating on off different stand
like you're, you're thinking

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different stories rather than we
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That's like a whole different
conversation and you're aligned

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on that.
Side of stuff yeah, like if he

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did the things that are in the
Russian dossier, we would say

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yes, that is wrong.
All right, so that so that's

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that next level like and and
maybe, you know, maybe in your

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everyday relationship with your
spouse, your children, you're

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not talking about Trump, but
maybe you're you've had

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arguments where well, you said
this and then they're like, that

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is not what I said at all.
And so you have, like, a

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misremembering of the facts.
And there are people in my

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family, probably in your family
that have a reputation for being

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able to just, like, almost like,
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This is how the conversation
went.

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That's so funny.
Yeah, frustrate.

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Those people who.
Yeah, who were like, oh, OK,

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maybe I just said I don't know.
And then the last kind of

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functional discord.
So we're getting more similar,

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you know, along and this one is
our styles are different.

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You know, it's like maybe you
have the same standards, you

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know, have the story the same
way.

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But yeah, maybe you have a
little different flair.

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You like cargo pants.
They like to wear jeans.

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It's like you're both like
wearing clothing, which is good,

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but you have like a different,
different style.

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Yeah, I, and I think there was a
recent, we even talked about

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this in the podcast a while back
where I was calling in to get

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this form signed by a doctor and
my style of how I was handling

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that completely different than
how Jill would handle it.

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And she's like you.
You know you can't.

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That's a good example.
And I'm like, well, I basically

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had to let her know that no, was
not going to be an acceptable

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answer, and here's why.
And I told her afterwards, like,

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if she had said these things,
I'd been like, yeah, you got a

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good point.
But she wasn't saying that she

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was just like, our policy is no,
because of such and such.

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And I was like, well, This is
why the policy doesn't count

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here.
So, but you know, I'm defending

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myself but.
You agree with that?

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No.
Yeah, that's a good example.

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And we probably run into that
more than anything with people

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at your same church.
Like some of the styles might be

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different on certain things
where you probably aligned in a

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lot of stuff.
You probably even have a lot of

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the same story, maybe not all
the time on some things, but

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it's like some of the the way
you would do something like the

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way I prefer worship or the way
I, I would rather us do this

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fellowship event here, or I
would rather do a Bible study

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this way or this topic.
It's like we're on the same

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team, but there's a little bit
of difference.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so as as we progress those

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three, obviously style should be
the easiest to overcome.

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Right, we agree.
On the, the, the facts, we agree

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on the the fundamental stuff, we
just, you know, you prefer this

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type of music.
I prefer this type of music,

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those types of things.
So given those types of discord,

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now we're going to move into
really 2 broad topics in any

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type of discord that are
foundational for Christian

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unity.
And the first is truth.

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I, I, I love this because this
is what makes Christianity

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great, is that you're appealing.
Hopefully you're appealing to

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the same authority where we
don't agree on something.

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Let's see what scripture says.
That's so much better than some

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arbitrary, this is good today.
This is not good tomorrow.

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So I know it that's, it's not as
easy as just that, but that kind

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of helps.
We're all looking at the same

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place, you know.
Yeah.

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No, that's good.
And so here in his notes, Tim

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has Christians have a greater
potential for unity because

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Christians have the same Lord
and the same source, source of

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truth to build upon.
He and he recounted this story

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of this man who came in and was
drinking.

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And I just so you know, I don't
think this Colossians 1-6 is a

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good reference.
That's what he said.

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And I wrote it down and I was
going to go back and look it up,

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but I don't think it is the.
You can look at it and see if

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somehow.
But he had a guy in the

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counseling and by, you know,
allegedly by reports of his mom

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and his mother-in-law, he was
drinking too much.

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And Tim, it was pretty funny.
He's like, you know, I'm not

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picking on them.
I have a Chicago accent.

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That's where I grew up.
This guy definitely had a

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Southern accent.
And he's came in.

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He's like, she can't tell me
what to do.

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My mother-in-law can't tell me
what to do.

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And you can't tell me what to
do.

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And Tim's like, you know, OK.
And he's like, and I just leaned

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in and I was like, can Jesus
tell me what to do?

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And he said that the guy was
like, yeah, yeah, He's like, OK,

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well.
We can work with.

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That now we can work with that.
Let's see what Scripture says.

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And if we disagree with
Scripture says, it's fine.

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Let's let's figure out what what
you know Scripture says and why.

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I think, I think that's good.
I do have this Colossians 16.

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It ends talking about grace and
truth.

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That's a little.
Awkward coming, so maybe it is.

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Right, so it might be I'll, I'll
back up to verse 5.

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Paul is talking, he's opening up
with this prayer and he says

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because of the hope laid up for
you in heaven with this hope

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you've heard before the word of
truth, the gospel which has come

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to you as indeed in the whole
world.

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And it's bearing fruit and it's
increasing, as it also does

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among you since the day you
heard it talking about the

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gospel and understood the grace
of God in truth.

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And so, you know, Paul, Paul's
appealing to to this, you know,

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Andrew.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.
So very good.

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There you go all.
Right.

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And then next one, Ephesians 417
So this I say, and affirm

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together with the Lord that you
walk no longer, just as the

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Gentiles also walk in the
futility of their mind being

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darkened, in their
understanding, excluded from the

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life of God because of the
ignorance that is in them,

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because of the hardness of their
heart.

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So if you got, if you're walking
according to ignorance, you

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don't have the truth, it's gonna
be hard for you to walk in an

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enlightened way.
So that's great.

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Colossians 316 starts out
appealing to the truth.

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It's saying let the word of
Christ, the truth, dwell on you,

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richly teaching and unmatching
one another in all wisdom,

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singing psalms and hymns and
spiritual songs with

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thankfulness in your hearts to
God.

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It all kind of starts with the
word of Christ dwelling in you

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in all things.
Whether it's teaching,

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exhortation, whatever, it all
starts there.

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All right, and then Second
Timothy 27, Paul writes,

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consider what I say for the Lord
will give you understanding and

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everything, and so that
understanding can help you

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discern what the truth is.
And then James 121 and kind of

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in the section where it talks
about, you know, not just being

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hearers but doers of the word,
it says, therefore, and some of

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this practical, practical
application, put away all

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filthiness and rampant
wickedness and receive with

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meekness the implanted word, the
truth which is able to save your

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souls.
I like that you're receiving the

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word and you're receiving it
with meekness.

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That that kind of, you know,
foreshadowing ahead.

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So unfortunately, it's not like
you get saved in day one.

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You know, all truth.
There's a sanctification

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process.
As we grow to be more like

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Christ, and then as we grow to
be more like Christ, the truth

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that we know we understand
increases.

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That's why I talk about the
spiritual, you know, armor.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, if you're a believer, I

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think you basically have all
parts of the armor, but how

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strong is it?
How ready for battle is it?

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Is it the level 1 belt or do
you, you know, you got to level

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that that armor up?
Level that bad boy up.

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Yeah, I like, I like that
analogy.

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I like the analogy of a stock
market that's going well.

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You got ups and downs.
Hopefully you're not like, you

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know, Tesla stock right now.
It's like a drop.

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You like really backslid.
You got to keep you know, you

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might have ups and downs, but if
you look step back, hopefully

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your bad day today is better
than 20 years ago.

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Even a good day, you know, maybe
maybe something's happening.

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So that that is good.
And one of these central

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passages Michael read part of
Ephesians 4 that that's like a

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foundational text.
I'll read verses 11 through 13,

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it says, and he gave some as
apostles and some as prophet and

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some as evangels, and some as
pastors and teachers for the

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equipping of the Saints, for the
work of service to the building

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up of the body of Christ until
we all attain to the unity of

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the faith and the knowledge of
the Son of God to a mature man,

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to the measure of the stature
which belongs to the fullness of

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Christ.
So it's kind of talking about,

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it's something to be attained.
It's not that everything's

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perfect, this unity now, but we
we want to be mature and that

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comes through things like
knowledge and truth.

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Yeah, and just two verses later,
verse 15, same chapter, it says,

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but speaking the truth and love,
we are to grow up in all aspects

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and to him who is the head, even
Christ and almost every

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spiritual gift other than, you
know, serving has some type of

442
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,000
speaking component to it.
And so oftentimes we're called

443
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,400
to speak the truth and love.
And sometimes even in serving

444
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,880
you, you, you can be speaking.
Maybe it's, you know, private or

445
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,240
you're helping to, you know,
lead some servers or something

446
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,840
like that, but you know,
speaking the truth and love.

447
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,680
No, I like it.
I like that Tim LED with truth

448
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720
because I think, I think
humility is very important.

449
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,800
We talk about it a lot and
everyone needs humility.

450
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,600
But if you, if you're not being
humble, like first foremost to

451
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,000
the truth, you, you could be.
I think there's a lot of well

452
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,120
meaning people and it's like,
man, you're just like ducking

453
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:15,800
the issue.
Even if you're not meaning to.

454
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,040
It's like, wow, we these two
things go together.

455
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,160
So, so foundation for unity #2
is humility.

456
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,080
He's got parentheses, IE, the
mind of Christ.

457
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,280
And we'll have some good
passages to talk through

458
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,880
Ephesians chapter 4.
Man, if you're just going to

459
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600
spend some time, that's the
place to be.

460
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,040
The first point he has is that
humble thinking breeds unity in

461
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,520
relationships.
Do you have that passage?

462
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,080
I do and I'm going to just start
back at verse one in this

463
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,720
passage because it's so good.
You know, we've talked so much

464
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,320
about, you know, how big a
chapter Romans 12 is because

465
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,760
it's this divide from the
doxology nor orthodoxy to

466
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800
orthopraxy.
And we had that same divide in

467
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,480
Ephesians cause chapters one
through three were orthodoxy.

468
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,400
Now it's like in light of that,
how do we live?

469
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,600
And a huge theme of Ephesians is
unity, especially between Jews

470
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,360
and Gentiles.
So given that he says,

471
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:16,120
therefore, I, the prisoner of
the Lord, implore you to walk in

472
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,240
a manner worthy of the calling
which you have been called, with

473
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,520
all humility and gentleness,
with patience, showing tolerance

474
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,360
for one another and love.
And then here's the key verse,

475
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,480
being diligent so that takes
work to preserve the unity of

476
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:39,080
the spirit in the bond of peace.
Man, it's it is Humility is a

477
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,040
tough thing, huh?
Today at work, it's like got a

478
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,240
couple of different situations
where it's like people just

479
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,760
don't get along.
I'm just like, can't, can't we

480
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,320
just get along?
It's like I get along with this

481
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,440
person.
I get along with this person.

482
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,720
These two people don't get along
with each other.

483
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,760
It's happening in two different
locations.

484
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,200
I'm just like, what what's going
on?

485
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,000
A lot of it is we, we don't, we
don't, they don't communicate

486
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,960
well with each other.
But more than that, they don't

487
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,840
see the same reality.
Like they don't have the same

488
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,440
truth.
It's like, at least we can

489
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,160
appeal to things like the
scripture.

490
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,880
It's like they're seeing
different things and not the

491
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,760
same thing as a God.
We're not.

492
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440
It's going to be it's going to
be a fun it's going to be a fun

493
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,720
week.
Proverbs 1310, the tagline here

494
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,520
that Tim has is proud thinking
breeds conflict in relationship,

495
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,760
kind of the opposite of humble
thinking that breeds unity.

496
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,920
Proverbs 1310 says by insolence
comes nothing but strife.

497
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,120
But with those who take advice
is wisdom.

498
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560
It can be hard to take advice
and you, I've been in a

499
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,280
situation where someone says
some really good advice, but I'm

500
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,440
too proud.
I'm too proud to acknowledge.

501
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,000
I'm like, I'm not even after the
fact, not even in front of them.

502
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,840
I'm not going to listen to that
even though it's like the right

503
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,000
thing because it's like I just
can't bring myself to be humble

504
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,160
and instead, you know, want to
be insolent, you know,

505
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,080
disrespectful, rude, these kind
of things.

506
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,480
And that's just going to
unnecessarily, you know, bring

507
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,680
strife.
That's great.

508
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,960
All right.
So truth, Humility, kind of, you

509
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,720
know, maybe rebranding of grace
and truth, cause humility is

510
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,240
kind of like grace, you know?
Yeah.

511
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,880
So if you have those as their
foundation now, Tim's going to

512
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:18,720
spend the next the most of the
sermon on how to deal with

513
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,440
fundamental discord 'cause that
was the bulk of his time and

514
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,680
kind of left factual and
functional discord for us to

515
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080
review.
But so we have this scripture

516
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,880
again in Timothy Paul's writing
to Timothy, Timothy's younger,

517
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320
he seems to be, from what we can
get, a little bit meeker in

518
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,000
spirit.
And so he is going to basically

519
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,720
tell him you have to preach the
truth, but not be quarrelsome

520
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,880
while you're doing it.
So Second Timothy 222 through

521
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,640
24, the Lord's bond servant must
not be quarrelsome, but be kind

522
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,080
to all able to teach.
So you got to know what the

523
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,400
truth is in order to teach it
patient when wronged with

524
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280
gentleness, correcting those who
are in opposition, if perhaps

525
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,520
God may grant them repentance
leading to the knowledge of the

526
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,200
truth, and they may come to
their senses and escape from the

527
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680
snare of the devil, having been
held captive by him to do his

528
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,360
will.
He's got this great

529
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,000
illustration.
Children are good for

530
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,600
illustration.
You know, two of his kids.

531
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,960
I plan I took this to be freeze
tag or some sort.

532
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,880
You said some sort of freeze
game where it's like someone

533
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920
tagged someone and they froze,
but then the other person tagged

534
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,000
the other person.
They didn't freeze.

535
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520
They're like he's not, she's
not, you know, there's not

536
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,200
freezing.
I feel like this is totally

537
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:39,480
unfair and Tim Peruge is like,
let's have it's like full house

538
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,280
Bob Saget.
Let's get on one knee and have

539
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,640
like the perfect answer.
Like does Jesus want you know

540
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,360
what wants you to treat your
brother or sister better instead

541
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,640
of being like just just freeze
Jayden, come on, listen to him.

542
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,600
I'm trying to get some work
done.

543
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480
It's like they're great.
Great answer, but leaning into

544
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,120
this, you know how, how would
you want to be treated?

545
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,080
Like can you see?
Can you step back and see this?

546
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,920
I know it's a little brother or
little sister that's hard to see

547
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040
for them, just like it's hard to
see for us sometimes.

548
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600
Yeah.
And I think what even in telling

549
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800
that story, what he did a good
job is sometimes you have to

550
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,800
peel away some of the layers
that are hiding.

551
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720
This foundational.
Issue because he's like, well,

552
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,200
the first thing was that, well,
didn't Timmy tell you the real

553
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,480
story?
Like because he doesn't always

554
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,360
freeze either.
Like the stories are different.

555
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,280
So that would be the factual
difference.

556
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,320
And then the next thing was,
well, he's just a little too

557
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,920
whiny about it.
That's the style difference.

558
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Like, you know, too emotional
about it.

559
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,840
And but then he like cuts right
to the heart with this question.

560
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
You already, you already had
like, well, you know, how would,

561
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,360
would Jesus want you to treat
your, your brother better?

562
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,320
And I think that's good modeling
for, you know, the we, we talked

563
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,320
about Old Testament wisdom and
we had this proverb that says

564
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,680
answer a fool like a fool.
It's easy to, well, don't answer

565
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040
is a fool.
And, and I think sometimes, you

566
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,120
know, it's hard to wage, but you
know, kind of being able to

567
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,600
wisely go through these layers,
kind of get to the heart of the

568
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400
issue, 'cause if you stay up,
you know, arguing about this

569
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,480
stuff with your kids, you're
kind of bringing yourself down.

570
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800
But if you just like cut to the
heart, like what's the issue?

571
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,240
Does God tell you to obey your
parents?

572
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800
OK, obey your parents.
Does God tell you to love your

573
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,760
brother?
OK.

574
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,360
And then so we are really
getting to that foundational

575
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,600
issue, helping to mature them.
That's great.

576
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,680
And some 3 sub points to help
you think along these lines

577
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,040
straight down this passage, you
know, in second Timothy, Paul is

578
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240
writing and saying that Timothy,
you're, you're a servants.

579
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,360
If you view yourself as a
servant of, of the Lord, that's

580
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,640
a good place to show some
humility.

581
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800
You're not, you know, you're not
the king of everything.

582
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840
You've been entrusted with
responsibility maybe, but and

583
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840
ultimately you're serving the
king.

584
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,400
And that in and of itself, I
think show will just instill

585
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
some humility naturally.
Yeah.

586
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,640
And then the next one, I don't
know.

587
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720
I put this here because we all
do this so well.

588
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880
View your opponent with
sympathy, right?

589
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280
You always, when you've been
wrong, you're always like, oh, I

590
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,320
understand you've had a hard
day, right?

591
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Yeah, Right.
No, I mean, that's not that way.

592
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,720
We always kind of demand that
justice.

593
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,640
But that's not what Scripture
tells us to do.

594
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,280
To to love our enemy.
To bless our enemy.

595
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Yeah, that's tough.
And then view the Lord as as

596
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,160
sovereign of God to rely in
control.

597
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,400
You can do your part.
And even in this passage it does

598
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760
say correct those who are wrong.
Just do it gently.

599
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Like it's not saying you don't
assert yourself, but you do it

600
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,400
gently and you do the right
thing.

601
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,000
And at some point, you know that
God is sovereign and you can you

602
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,280
can live in that.
It's not saying don't do

603
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,640
anything.
It's like, yeah, correct,

604
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,960
gently.
And then you can kind of say,

605
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,640
hey, I'm doing my job.
And then finally, we view our

606
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,040
tool ourselves as tools.
So we're we are there to be used

607
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,720
of God and we're not.
It's not our, you know, it's not

608
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,000
us.
It's just like, hey, God, if you

609
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,560
can use me, use me.
I'm happy to be, you know,

610
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,680
humble and seek after the truth
in this.

611
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,080
Sometimes, you know, when you're
trying to restore unity,

612
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040
sometimes you kind of have to,
you know, there's some problems

613
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600
that say the wound of a brother
is faithful.

614
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,920
So you sometimes it's lovingly
like, hey, this is going on and

615
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,280
it's bothering me.
And then here on their side, you

616
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,400
may go, oh, I never, I never
knew you saw it that way.

617
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,640
That helps me understand.
So sometimes you have to lean

618
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,400
into these things where there is
some conflict and maybe make it

619
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,120
a little bit awkward at first,
but then hopefully out of the

620
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440
end of it, it's your
relationship's restored.

621
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Yeah, and I think if you do
that, even if you're do, you are

622
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840
delivering hard news or
something that the other

623
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,560
person's not going to want to
hear.

624
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,720
If they can see that you're just
trying to understand, you're

625
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920
trying to do the right.
It's, you're not just having no

626
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880
sympathy like you mentioned and
attacking them.

627
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,760
You're like, see, this is not
great.

628
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,800
This is what I'm seeing.
Can you help me understand this?

629
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800
And maybe they're like, man, I
don't have a good excuse here.

630
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Or maybe they're like, oh, have
you ever seen this like

631
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520
illustration where it's like
someone's about to stab someone

632
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600
is what the shadow looks like?
And then it's like, oh, they're

633
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,560
giving someone something nice
or, I don't know.

634
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,680
It's like you didn't see
everything.

635
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880
I think usually that's like
saying truth is relative.

636
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Like maybe it's like not always
a great illustration, but you

637
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,040
know, there's different sides.
There is a truth, but maybe you

638
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,840
didn't see the real reality.
There's another facet to the

639
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680
truth that once you understand
that, you get a better overall

640
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120
picture of what's going on.
Yeah, I think, I think that's

641
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,960
good skipping down to response
time.

642
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Yeah, we can put these other
notes in there, but we really

643
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840
kind of skipped over them during
the sermon.

644
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,800
And so I mean, we could go out
on our own and just read them,

645
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,440
but we'll give them to you to
read.

646
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,880
I can, I can do that in the the
notes if you want to and then

647
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800
response.
So number one, you want to read

648
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800
that one for a SEC?
Yeah, this little this is good.

649
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,760
What two or more biblical
concepts do you need to remember

650
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,480
this coming week?
And what two or more actions do

651
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
you need to take this week based
on what the Lord has revealed to

652
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,720
you during this session?
If anyone comes to mind or a

653
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,800
situation, what kind of things?
And I like it.

654
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,280
You got to think you can't just
be like, oh, this one.

655
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,960
It's like think 2 or more,
right?

656
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480
I'm sure there's plenty of
situations we can apply this to.

657
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,560
And then #2 write a prayer of
dependency upon God, asking for

658
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,600
His help and thanking him for
his help.

659
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,320
As you review those Bill
concepts that you wrote down and

660
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,720
choose to be obedient to those
actions that you wrote down, You

661
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,920
know, it's sometimes obedience
is just, you know, I'm going to

662
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,320
choose this because I know it's
right.

663
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,160
It's I know what God has what's
best in mind for me may not

664
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120
always feel good, but I want to
choose obedience.

665
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,480
And I think I've told this story
before, but you know, I'm, I'm,

666
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,560
I have been outed as an old
Earther.

667
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Yeah.
And I was teaching a class, this

668
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,320
was years ago, maybe like 2012.
And someone in the class said

669
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,080
something like, don't you think
that all goes back to people not

670
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,640
believing that God created
everything in seven days?

671
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
And I was like, I felt like it
fronted, like, you're just

672
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,600
trying to stir strife because
this person knew that I was an

673
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440
old Earther.
And I was like, I'm just going

674
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,480
to have to talk to Joel about
this.

675
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,080
I was, I was kind of upset.
Kind of.

676
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,480
Like, you know, this isn't
helpful.

677
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Why can't we all get along type
of thing.

678
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,080
These are all things.
And I said, well, you know what,

679
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
I'm going to be obedient to what
the word says.

680
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Keep it small, go to that person
first one-on-one and and then if

681
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
you want your brother.
So I did.

682
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,840
I went to that person after the
and I was like, Hey, I don't

683
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000
know if you meant anything when
you said this, but it really

684
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,880
kind of bothered me.
And like, I'm trying not to make

685
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,960
that, you know, a focal point of
this class.

686
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,800
You know, I know there are
differences and that person was

687
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,520
like, I totally forgot, like I
did not mean at all to do that.

688
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,680
And it's like, and it's like,
how much heartache did that save

689
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,080
than me saying, you know, Joe,
you know, this is back when I

690
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,760
was, you know, not even elder, I
was deacons.

691
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,360
So I, you know, but you know,
supposed to be going Joe, we had

692
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,960
to have a meeting, you know, sit
down and like, you know, it just

693
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,280
was taken care of because what
we I obeyed not because of not

694
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,080
because of my wisdom, because.
Of God's wisdom.

695
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Because I didn't want to do
that.

696
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Because it's not comfortable.
Yeah, now that that's a really

697
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,760
good example and I like this
idea he has write a prayer

698
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,000
dependency.
I'm the kind of person I don't

699
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,520
like doing that kind of stuff.
Like Tim's low is like

700
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,400
withdrawal picture, write a
prayer.

701
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,080
And I'm like, I'm like, that's
good.

702
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,880
It's just not my style.
I'm just like, I just want to

703
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,679
read it and think about it.
But when I've done those things

704
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,120
in the past, it does help you
think about it better.

705
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400
I might 'cause I went, I was
like, let's draw these pictures

706
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800
with Jayden and it was like
really good family conversation

707
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,400
and it's good.
So those those exercises are

708
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,120
good 'cause it kind of forces
you to stay on that topic in

709
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,360
your mind.
That's it.

710
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,719
Anything else?
Man next week.

711
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,719
Next week.
Probably not in Romans either.

712
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,280
Oh, is is that not right?
Well, we're we're next week,

713
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,960
we're celebrating the activity
of God.

714
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,040
Oh well.
And he he may preach something.

715
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,159
That's he.
Might.

716
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So edge of your seat, get

717
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,600
excited.
Yeah, yeah.

718
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,159
We don't know.
It could be, you know, Obadiah,

719
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,080
we just don't.
Know we just don't know.

720
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,080
Take it, eat them.
I think that was Obadiah's

721
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
about, but close this out,
Michael.

722
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,880
All right.
Hey, that's Arte.

723
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,720
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724
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080
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725
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