March 3, 2025
How Can We Get Along? | Romans 14:1-13
Episode 112
With differences in beliefs over alcohol, clothing, music, and other things, how can Christians get along with one another?
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Cool, Michael, I, you know, I,
I, I do, I, I will say Michael
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Jordan's my favorite basketball
player.
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Michael Jordan is not my
favorite basketball player, but,
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but I like, I like Michael
Jordan.
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I'm nothing against Michael
Jordan.
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And I'll tell you today, I feel
like I'm playing the flu game a
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little under the weather, but
got my Gatorade.
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I'm ready to do the podcast.
Now for the UN uninformed, you
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might have to tell people what
the flu game is 'cause I like if
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you just mentioned it, I would
be like, but now I I kind of
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remember so you you might have
to.
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I don't know the, you know,
we're talking late 90s Utah
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Jazz.
I believe Michael Jordan is the
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Bulls are playing Utah Jazz, I
think, and Michael got some food
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poisoning.
I think that there is there is a
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interesting history behind it
where I think the person to
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blame is like someone from the
hotel.
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I think it they were playing in
Utah and the conspiracy is.
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Bad.
Pizza I don't.
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Know I don't.
Think it's been in in a couple
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recent years people have said
that and they've like tried to
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track down the actual guy and
stuff.
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It's kind of funny.
I think it was Domino's or
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something.
I don't know bad pizza, but I
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don't know.
You know, he was pumped with
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heavy fluids.
Like you, you see pictures, you
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Google it.
Scottie Pippen's like carrying
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him on the court, you know, at
time outs and stuff.
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It just feeds into the the
legend of, you know, the
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maniacal nature flu.
Casts.
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The flu cast and and I'm really
not sick but I got my Gatorade.
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I thought I would say it and I
was thinking about 1/2 baked
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idea.
Oh, OK.
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We should, we should test
pastors for PEDs, you know, you
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know, performance tenancy drugs,
like I'm trying to recover.
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But maybe this one's like,
Pastor Gerald, a great sermon.
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Do we get him tested?
Make sure he's not like pumped
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up on something to get him
through?
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No, I think I think that's
probably pretty good.
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You know, especially like when
he, you know, he had that
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sickness, but then he kind of
pulled through.
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In an amazing way.
And obviously, when did that man
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likes coffee So so.
He drinks coffee non-stop.
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Obviously I, I used to drink
coffee more than I, than I, than
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I have than my cardiologist when
I went Afib was like, you got to
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restrict your coffee just to the
morning and keep it smaller.
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So yeah, Speaking of food
poisoning.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
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So, and this is I, I want to
bring it back to the flu game.
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Oh great.
Do it.
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But when I was in the Navy, we
had to stand watch.
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And so like after 6-9 months, a
year of being an Ensign, you
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kind of got trained up.
Then the next thing you had to
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do was train up to stand watch.
And you started out as officer
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of the day, which basically
meant that you kind of did all
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the footwork type of stuff.
And then you graduated to CEO,
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which was command duty officer.
Command duty officer reported
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directly to the captain, whoever
was acting captain of the day.
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So like, if there was something
that broke out, you know, you
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might send your OD out to the
officer of the day, you have to
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investigate or something.
But then you're the one calling
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the captain.
Like, hey, we found this.
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And normally you never wanted
those things.
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You want to just be nothing.
So I say all that to say,
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missing one of those watches was
a big deal.
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Like, you know, you got watch,
you're supposed to show up in
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the morning.
You do turnover, you turn over,
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like if you're the CDO, you turn
over in front of the captain and
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it's like the outgoing CDO gives
his report, his or her report.
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And then the incoming CDO would
like, you know, the captain
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would say, all right, you know,
these are the things to look out
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for today, blah, blah, blah.
Well, one of the people missed
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it and I wasn't a great friend
of this person, but the rumor is
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that they were imbibing a little
bit of the of the Alpha Hall and
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was someone called like, dude,
where are you?
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And he's like, I can't even come
in.
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And so he claimed that he had
food poisoning.
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The classic.
And then he he the the whoever
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was like, well, he needs to get
a so he had to go to the doctor.
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And I don't know what doctor,
but he somehow he got some
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letter that said he had food
poisoning.
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I don't know how much he paid to
do that and they got got out of.
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It if Elon Musk was around
during those times, he wouldn't
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have stood a chance.
That's right, it's.
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Oh my goodness.
So maybe I'd say about to say
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food poisoning or a little bit
too much alcohol for MJ, you
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know what I'm saying?
That's that's great.
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There is also he he, Michael
Jordan was so maniacal about
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just competitive about
everything.
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Was he like Brady?
What the, the, the people will
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say, yeah, like that.
They wanted to wanted to win at
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all cost.
Yeah.
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Where if you go back, I think
this is early 90s, I think they
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were playing in a NBA Finals
against the Suns.
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Not only what was he competitive
about basketball, but about
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everything in life.
He had some gambling issues.
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He's really into golf and he
played and like literally like
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on the like the day of NBA
Finals, like they said he would
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play like 36 holes of golf like
before the game because he just
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had to play golf.
And like they would even like
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they, they like made a comment
like, oh, if you watch a certain
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game, he like looks noticeably
darker 'cause he was in the sun
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for like 4 hours in Phoenix
before the game and he would say
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3:00 in the morning.
Like and I was like, he just
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could, he just had a motor that
wouldn't stop and he could do
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everything.
It's kind of crazy.
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Whereas like LeBron, I think
he's a competitor, but he's more
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like, I'm going to take care of
my body, I'm going to stretch it
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out, I'm going to do all the
right things.
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We've spent a lot of money on my
food, hyperbaric chamber.
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But he's not like the I'm going
to strangle you on the court.
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But he is very committed in a
different way.
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Maybe his motor's not there as
much, but it's interesting
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seeing these different athletes,
you know what I mean?
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Yeah, and I think sometimes, you
know, I think listening to him,
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didn't MJ kind of have a tough
childhood type stuff?
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I don't know, LeBron may have
too.
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But sometimes at those pains
they cause you to like the
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insecurities and stuff they.
You know, that is true.
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I don't know how accurate all
this is, but if you've ever
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we're going off the rails, but
Malcolm Gladwell's like outlier
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book talks a lot about these
people that succeed.
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Like you're saying just from not
that you want your child to
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these terrible things.
And then when you you give them
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these great environments, it's
like, oh, they're they might
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succeed, but statistically much
less likely to succeed, right.
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They're like, in a crazy way.
Right.
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They're going to succeed, but
they're kind of, you know, B
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plus.
Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A.
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A.
Minus level, like they're going
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to just kind of be high in the
middle.
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It's like safer lower ceiling
but lower even higher had.
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Like a horrible relationship
with his father.
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Apparently.
Go figure.
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Yeah, yeah.
So.
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Great.
Well, if we're going to take it
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back to food and food poisoning,
this passage talks a little
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about food.
Should you eat meat?
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Sacrifice idols.
Spoiler, vegetarians or weak,
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We'll we'll talk about that and
more on the podcast.
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Let's take it to the next level.
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we take theology to the next
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All right, So I don't know about
you.
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You may have been young for this
1992.
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I was depending if it was before
September, I was still one.
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I turned to 92 September.
OK, so you have been young, but
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I vividly remember this and I
remember this phrase going
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through, you know, just going
through everywhere, especially
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in athletics, playing basketball
or something.
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And anytime there would be
someone would say kind of not
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really.
They'd be like, why can't we all
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get along?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was like in the culture.
For sure in the culture, but if
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you lived there in that time,
you saw and, and I think, you
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know, obviously America not
perfect, but I think you see
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some tide changing.
So I think this was start of the
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like we saw these this video,
these 4 white police officers,
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you know, just hitting the snot
out of Rodney King didn't seem
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like there would be any way that
could be justified.
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They go to court, you're
expecting some type of guilty
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and they get acquitted and
you're like LA erupts in riots.
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Now, I'm not saying that riots
are good, but 'cause there were
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a lot, there were, there were,
you know, 60 deaths, 100 or $1
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billion in damages.
Where you get, I think that's
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where you get these pictures of
these.
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I think there were Korean shop
owners on top of their shop with
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a KS like saying you're going to
stay away from my shop.
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Like those are the there's a
section.
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That.
Escaped because they they were
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literally protecting it.
But I think it spoke to the
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injustice that people felt
there.
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And of course, Rodney goes on
television afterwards and he
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says he's, you know, why can't
we all just get along?
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And, you know, this plea for
both sides to, you know, do
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what's right to, you know, love
11 another.
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And Joel's going to take that
and say, you know, in our
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churches that, you know,
obviously at least you don't
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have people that are beating
each other in your churches,
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right?
Depends.
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I'm scared.
Yeah, I hope not.
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I hope not.
Yeah, the issues might seem
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smaller, but there's a lot of
issues.
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Yeah, there are a lot of issues.
Some of those issues are things
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we got to take a stand on.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
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And this is not a text to say
nothing matters.
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Right.
And I appreciated Joel saying
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somewhere in the sermon like
he's just spent 11 chapters
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letting down the foundational
issues that he's not going to
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budget on salvation, sin, all
that stuff.
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But when it comes to some
things, they just don't in the
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end matter that much and we
should find a way to get along
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on those.
Yeah, and, and just, I mean,
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what you just said, Paul
develops the firm doctrines
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very, very well.
He also, he doesn't spend quite
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11 chapters, but he's been so
good bit of text.
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It's like on the other side of
it.
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So this week's passage titled
How Can We Get Along, looks at
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Romans 14 verses, one through
12, a lot of texts.
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Do you want to take it verse by
verse?
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You want to give it?
Read it all right now.
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Let's just take it verse by
verse.
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I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, verse one, Paul jumps in
and he says, now accept the one
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who is weak in faith, but not
for the purpose of passing
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judgment on his opinions.
And so right out of the gate
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we're kind of confronted with
this weak in faith.
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What's that mean?
Yeah, and goes on verse two.
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One person has faith that he may
eat all things, but he who is
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weak eats vegetables.
I love it.
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I love it.
I that is.
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That rings so true today.
Oh, so all you vegans and
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vegetarians, I'm assuming we
probably don't have a huge
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following, but you may be out
there and and I think there's
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different reasons that you might
choose that.
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Yeah, some people have allergies
to meat proteins.
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Sorry, I'm just going to throw
this out here.
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Yeah, I, well, you know, in
front of me, like, I think it's
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related to like, Birch pond,
that kind of thing.
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I have a hard time eating
vegetables so my throat gets all
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like itchy, you know?
Certain vegetables are you are
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you're not just.
Anaphylactic, but it's like my
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throat beats for like 5 or 10
minutes, then they'll go away.
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It's not if I cook, If it's
cooked like a cooked carrot, no
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problem.
But a raw carrot, even if it's
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washed like carrot, cucumber,
like all of these things that I
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really like like, and it's like
avocado, pineapple, It's very
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common.
Pineapple's.
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I was going to say Pineapple's
the only one, but what I've
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heard it's that acid enzyme in
there that starts breaking, but
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it's like attacking your your
cells and you have an immune
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response to that.
I also saw recently that
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pineapple juice can is like an
antiseptic.
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It kills certain bacteria.
But all that to say, you know,
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every, everyone's different.
You're right, different reasons.
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I was going the other way.
It's hard to eat vegetables.
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So I'm trying to stay strong,
trying to stay away from being
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weak in faith.
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And so maybe we should give a
little bit of the context
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because there probably were not
people who were vegans because
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they were for animal rights like
like we see in today's culture.
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But most of the meat was rather
expensive, and especially if you
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wanted meat that didn't go
through this idle sacrifice kind
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of ritual.
And so if you wanted to buy
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meat, it almost certainly had
been, you know, butchered from
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the animal, rested before this
idol and then taken to market to
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sold be sold.
And so you can see how someone
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might have concerns about that.
Yeah, and like you're saying,
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you know, meat that's been out
for like a week or something, or
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it was offered an adults like
going to be on the cheap on the
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discount.
Maybe you're like and you know,
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you you mix that with all the
food laws and the OT, things
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kind of get complicated, you
know, where there's a lot of
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these different thoughts and
feelings.
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And the churches, Jew and
Gentile mixed together too.
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Right, because you don't only
have was this meat sacrificed to
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an idol, but is this meat from a
clean animal?
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So is this a pig?
Is this a cow?
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Is a sheep?
All that would have played into
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it.
So you can see how the
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congregation of mixed folks,
mixed backgrounds would have
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issues with this and I.
And so if we were to find what
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it means to be weak in the
faith, Joel says, and I agree
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with him, those whose
consciences are overly
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particular, overly particular,
like you're just, oh, you're
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offended by every little thing.
Yeah, it leads you kind of on
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that judgmental side of things.
I'll mention it later.
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So don't forget man pull.
I want to, I want to say this so
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you can remind me.
There's a really helpful chart
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I'm going to try to find.
There's a guy I like.
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His name's Andy Nasali, and he
wrote this book called
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Conscience.
It's like a it's awesome because
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it's a short book, just looks at
like this passage passage in
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First Corinthians and really
practically looks at some of
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this stuff.
What's helpful is that he grew
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up in like, you know, super
strict context.
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He he covered with a guy who's
like a missionary and you like
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grapple with all these things.
You know, that's I think where
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you see it a lot too.
If you think about it in a
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missions context or Jew and
Gentile coming together, that's
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where it gets kind of tricky
because cultures are kind of
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collided.
Yeah, it's funny that you
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mentioned that.
And take a little short aside,
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like I grew up, economic
disaster hit my family when I
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was like 2.
Dad lost his job.
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Apparently before then, it was
like high on the hog.
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Like Christmas is like you've
never seen before.
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And then, you know, I remember
growing up like Michael's never
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seen a Christmas like that.
It's OK, Sorry.
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But I remember there was always
like this fond remembrance of
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the church that they went to in
Michigan.
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And I know the name of it, but I
won't say the name of it.
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But when when I hear them talk
about it, it was very
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legalistic.
Oh, ladies, no slacks, No, like
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all these rules.
And I, I think you come out of
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that and you are you that is
that overly particular?
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You're so since your conscience
is overly sensitive.
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Yeah.
And you just naturally judge
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people and and it's in you know
what you think is think is
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right.
Oh, that's good.
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I will I will read this about
the strong.
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Those with a strong conscience
are liberated brothers and
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sisters in Christ who fully
understand what it means to be
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free in Christ.
They don't cling to the
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meaningless traditions and forms
of religion.
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They understand fully they are
free from sin, death, hell, and
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Satan.
They understand they are not
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obligated to follow holy days
and ceremonies.
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They know they're free to make
choices dependent on how the
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Spirit of God moves in their
hearts.
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Such people are strong in the
faith.
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The weaker those individuals who
continue to hang on to rituals
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and ceremonies of their past,
refusing to let go.
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They don't believe they have
freedom in Christ.
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They do otherwise.
Such freedom threatens them, so
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they prefer to remain as they
are.
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That is John MacArthur.
So you have the spectrum, the
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weak, particular, judgmental,
overly sensitive.
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And then there's, I think, but
John MacArthur's talking about a
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strong conscious in the middle.
But I think you can also have an
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like, you can be too strong.
We're actually arrogant.
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And if you go too far in either
of those directions, you can
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actually be in heresy.
And then you can be in OK,
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you're just wrong.
And then you can be, you know,
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it's, it's a bit, it's spectrum.
Right.
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And so I think the bulk of
today's passage is going to be
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pointed at the overly
particular, like, hey, you need
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to not judge this person.
Don't be so particular.
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Next week's sermon is going to
be more pointed at the person
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who's on the strong side.
Like, hey, is meat that big a
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deal that you're going to?
You're going to.
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So I like Paul kind of.
It's really a hammer on both
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sides.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I love it and we get this
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example of build a gentile just.
Strolling on it with his.
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Barbecue pork.
Pork at the church potluck.
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He's been smoking this all day
and people are like, I can't.
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Do this.
I'm there for you, Bill.
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Like whatever people don't eat,
you can give it to me.
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Yeah.
And so you can see someone, you
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know, doing that and they spent
time and they're giving.
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And then people go, hey, I
can't, I can't do this.
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Or even be offended, mad.
And be like, yeah, what the
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heck.
And then Bill being like, no,
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what the heck for you, you know
you can eat this.
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So you can see how that would
create tension.
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And, and again, you said this at
the top, Michael, this is not
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like should we murder or not
murder?
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It's my conscience.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
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This is a issue of conscience is
not, you know, this doctrinal
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moral sin.
It's it's this kind of it could,
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could go.
It's a tough one because it's
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not really it could go either
way.
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There is a right answer, but
there's not a totally black and
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white.
Right, there's a guy that I've
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heard address this before and.
The cocoa mug.
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I should have to drink out of
the cocoa mug whenever, whenever
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I talk about him.
But he will say something like
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doing something that's not
wrong, that is against your
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conscience.
You can make that wrong.
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Correct.
But you can't do something that
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is wrong because it was your
conscience and make it right.
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Yeah, that, that that's
worthwhile to, to think about
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because I think I think that's
exactly, exactly right.
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And you don't want people to sit
against their conscience, but
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you need to know what scripture
says to.
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Yeah, that that's really good.
He gave some examples, you know,
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alcohol, talk about worship
styles, entertainment.
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We all probably don't have the
same movie standards, all this
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stuff, you know?
I don't watch Lord of the Rings
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because I think it's immoral.
I want to say that right now.
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I'm just kidding.
I was.
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Just going to say for all of us
of the group in the 80s, go
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watch an 80s movie and you're
like.
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Whoa, that's PG.
That was PG.
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That was PG13.
There's no way.
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So I, I think our trends have
moved a little bit so.
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So you know, what's, what's our
response now that we kind of
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have some context, There's weak
in faith, strong in faith.
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You know, how are we to respond?
Well, going back to Romans 14,
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one, it says accept the one who
is weak in faith, but not for
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the purpose of passing judgement
on his opinions.
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So accept him, but not to not to
just come down hard on him.
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Yeah, yeah.
And Accept has this idea of
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being warm, having kindness,
genuine love.
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That's what John Scott would
say.
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It's not merely just tolerating.
So it's not like I'll I'll put
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up with you and your smart, your
smoked pork.
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It's like, hey, I love you.
I can't eat that, but I love
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you.
And Bill should have that same
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idea.
Like I, you know, I'm going to
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lovingly, yeah, I got this for
us, you know, whatever that,
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whatever that looks like, but
you are embracing each other
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knowing that you, you got
differences.
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I think I think that's great.
Let's keep moving on to verse
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three.
It says the one who eats is not
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to regard with contempt the one
who does not, and the one who
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doesn't eat is not to judge the
one who eats.
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And listen, this is the why.
For God has accepted him.
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And I think we're gonna hit this
point a little bit over and
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over, even getting stronger
towards the end of the passage.
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No, that that's really good and
and this is something that I
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think is good even for some
minor, you know, these are some
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practical issues, but there are
like third level tier doctrinal
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issues.
That's true.
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We can have differences of
opinion.
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Now, sometimes you have to say
this is where our church stands
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on this because we can't, you
can't really do both.
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Like, for example, the issue of
speaking in tongues, like you
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either got to allow it or you
not allow it.
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Like 'cause you can't have it
have both ways.
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But that doesn't mean you have
to have contempt for a Church of
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the opposite persuasion.
You know, you can say, hey, we
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disagree.
Here's why we disagree.
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But we still, we still love you
not we don't just tolerate you.
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You know, we have kind
intentions for you.
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You want God's best for you.
We want you to walk in the
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fullness of all that stuff is we
just.
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Does it make sense for us to
hold joint worship together?
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Because we have different ideas
about how that should.
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Should work.
No, I love it.
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And again, Paul's kind of going
a little bit both both ways here
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in the bit overarching theme of
or idea.
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Verse 3 is God just give this
person that they're a believer
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and and so you know, if God has
accepted this person, who are we
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to say like get out of here.
Verse 4 says, who are you to
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judge the servant of another to
his own master.
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He stands or falls and he will
stand, for the Lord is able to
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make him stand.
So similar kind of almost like
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getting stronger with this
point.
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Yeah, I think this is good.
And you, you, we got to
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understand our role in this.
And, you know, local authority
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exists, but we ultimately answer
to God, not to each other.
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So we have our authority.
So we you know, if there's a
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local law that says you
shouldn't do something and it's
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not, you know, you should, but
ultimately our ultimate
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authority is to God.
And so you could have, you know,
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local local authority in the
church.
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You have government authority,
but ultimately, you know, I
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don't answer to Zacks that
doesn't answer to me.
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You know, even true with like
husbands wife like.
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At the end of the day, Yeah.
At the end of the day.
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Husbands love your wives
regardless whether she you know
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that cause the end of the day
you ultimately stand and before
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the Lord and then I like this he
alluded to this passage, but
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this is one of my favorite
passages.
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I almost started quoting this
when I was praying at the end of
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the service today, but I didn't
but it's out of Jude says now to
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him who's able to keep you from
stumbling and to make you to
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stand in the presence of his
glory, blameless with great joy
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to only God our Savior through
Christ Jesus our Lord be glory
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and majesty, dominion, authority
before all time now and forever.
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So like you know all the
pictures we have the people
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running with angels, people
running into God.
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You know, what do they do?
They're just they're just like
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falling down and you know the
angels say stand up.
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Jesus doesn't tell them that,
but because we've been accepted
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by God, which is Paul and Joel's
point, we're going to be able to
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be able to be made to stand
boldly before the throne of God,
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you know, because we're wrapped
in in Christ righteousness.
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So.
That's a good, big, good
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picture.
Standing verse falling.
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Yeah.
Yeah, bringing it full back.
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You know, that's that's why we
should not judge one another.
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If we keep moving along, verse 5
says kind of going to a
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different topic, moving from
food to one person regards one
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day above another.
Another regards everyday alike.
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Each person must be fully
convinced in his own mind.
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And I like the end of that first
because it's not saying nothing
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matters.
Don't think about it.
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It's like, no, no, you, you need
to have an opinion.
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Maybe you don't hold on to it as
life or death, but you're
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convinced.
This is what I believe based on
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Scripture.
Yep, and and This is why.
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And guess what?
If someone, you know, Seven Day
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Adventists, they have some other
doctrinal issues, but you want
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to have service on a Saturday,
OK, there, there's nothing
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that's that would prohibit that.
Now we know that the, you know,
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the regular thing became the
first day of the week, but I'm
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sure there were Jews that were
like, hey, we still want to have
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it on the Sabbath, OK?
Right.
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Yeah, right, right.
And if you, it's really
484
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interesting, even looking at,
you look at a verse like this
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and some of our Presbyterian
friends that are really hard
486
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reformed, they'll be like, no,
no, no, this is only like full
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new moons and holidays.
Because, you know, we're
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Sabatarians, like, you know, the
new Sabbath, you know, that kind
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of thing.
So different, different people
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kind of got different views on
that.
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But it's interesting 'cause this
is like they say something like
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that.
People always go, go here, you
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know?
Yeah, I don't know how you would
494
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I, I don't know how you could
dance around that cause Paul
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really just says one person
regards one day above another,
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another regards every day alike.
Talk to Paul guys.
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Talk to Paul.
That's great, that's great.
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Verse 6 says he who observes the
day observed for the Lord, and
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if who who eats, do so for the
Lord, For he gives thanks to
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God, and he who eats not for the
Lord, he does not eat and gives
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thanks to God.
For not one of us lives for
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himself, not one dies for
himself.
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For if we live, we live for the
Lord, or if we die, we die for
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the Lord.
Therefore whether we live or
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die, we are the Lords.
Did you notice a pattern there,
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Michael?
Oh, yeah, yeah, we are for the
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Lord.
And everything we should do, it
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should be under the Lord.
Like you, you work, you got a
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bad employer under the Lord.
So even in this mindset, you
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know, we're tolerating one
another, we're embracing one
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another, we're loving one
another for the Lord.
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And if I'm dealing with a weaker
brother, or if a weaker
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brother's dealing with me, or if
I'm the weaker brother doing a
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stronger brother, if, if
everything I'm doing is just
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like, man, that's what God says.
I think there's more grace in
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that.
You know, I think people see
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that and like, man, I don't
agree with brother so and so,
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but does he love the Lord or
what?
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You know what I mean?
And it's like, I think there's
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more grace and you it's easier
to work with someone when you
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keep that at the focus.
I think that's good.
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All right, verse 9.
How about I read one of them.
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It says we've just been, No, no,
no, I, I felt like I've been
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doing all the color commentary
on.
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I'll let you do some color
commentary.
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All right #9 For to this end
Christ died and lived again,
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that he might be Lord both of
the dead and of the living.
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Pastor Joel's gonna make make
this point that, you know,
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you'll look at a passage like
this, it's all about, you know,
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conscience and this kind of
thing.
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But at the center of it is
Christ is Lord that you know,
532
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you're you're saved, you're
going to heaven.
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Great.
But your whole life, you have a
534
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,680
master.
Your whole life is transformed.
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He is Lord, He is the King not
just of you, but of but of
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everything.
And if you get that right, a lot
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of this other stuff I think kind
of falls into place more because
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Christ is Lord of, of
everything, the dead and the
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00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,640
living, every knee shall bow,
every tongue confess that Jesus
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Christ is Lord.
And I think we we think about
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something like getting along
with others.
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00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000
If you think that Christ is
Lord, which we all do, and you
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realize that we answer to God,
God's accepted these brothers
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and sisters in Christ, we're not
going to be judged for I'm not
545
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going to just for what you did.
You're not just for what I did.
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And so at the end of the day, we
can rest in knowing that the
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Lord of the universe is going to
take care of things.
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Excellent, verse 10 says, but
you, why do you judge your
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brother or you?
Again, why do you regard your
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brother with contempt?
For we all will stand before the
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judgement seat of God.
For it is written, as I live,
552
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,880
says the Lord, Every knee shall
bow to me, and every tongue
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shall give praise to God.
So then each one of us will give
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an account of himself to God.
So that was 10 through 12.
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I love it.
And Pastor Gill didn't make this
556
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,280
comment, too.
No one's like, man, all these
557
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
stronger brothers you're trying
to get on my case.
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00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,160
We're the stronger brother all
the time.
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00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,000
I know so that that's pretty
funny because I think we all
560
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think that way.
Everyone wants to be the
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stronger brother and by virtue,
no one wants to be the weaker
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brother.
I think it's funny.
563
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,680
We'll use examples like holy
days and alcohol and we'll try
564
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,320
to make this like 1 to one
comparison.
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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840
But if you make that 11
comparison about alcohol,
566
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you're, you're saying I am the
weaker brother or, you know,
567
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
some of these things like the
think through because no one
568
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,960
wants to say I'm the weaker
brother.
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Everyone thinks they're the
stronger brother.
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00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,800
So I, I think that's good to
have perspective and realize you
571
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,720
might not maybe you think
you're, maybe you're not nailing
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on every single thing in life
forever.
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00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,160
You know, yeah, no, that's very
good.
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And then this other passage, and
I think this is so good that,
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you know, Scripture is
consistent.
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Of course, you'd hope it would
be consistent because this is
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Paul from both places.
But this isn't the only place
578
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,080
that Paul addresses this.
And I remember talking to, I
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00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,800
think it was one of my kids
recently.
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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880
And I was like, Hey, you know,
you do your best and don't even
581
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
try to judge yourself, like,
because we were talking about
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00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,880
motives and stuff.
But this is what Paul had to
583
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,120
say.
First Corinthians 4 one through
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5.
Let a man regard us in this
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00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,040
manner as servants of Christ and
stewards of the mysteries of
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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
God.
In this case, moreover, it is
587
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,840
required of stewards that one be
found trustworthy.
588
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,040
But to me it is a very small
thing that I may be examined by
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you or by any human court.
In fact, I do not even examine
590
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,000
myself, for I am conscious of
nothing against myself, yet I
591
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720
am.
I am not by this acquitted, but
592
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,400
the one who examines me is the
Lord.
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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,400
Therefore, do not go on passing
judgment before the time, but
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wait until the Lord comes who
will both bring to light the
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00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,360
things hidden in darkness and
disclose the motives of men's
596
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,000
hearts.
And then each man's praise will
597
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,760
come to him from God.
And if you were to keep reading,
598
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,240
that's where he gets into.
You know, one man builds with
599
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280
stone, one man builds with
rubies, and then you know, it's
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00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680
going to be judged in in what's
good remains.
601
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,800
And so huge passage on them, on,
you know, serving the Lord and
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00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080
not trying to get caught up and
judge him one another.
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00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480
I I think that's so easy to
judge one another.
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00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200
So if we're if we're moving on
to application, Paul has this
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passion, not just, you know, in
this passage, but in several
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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,000
others that we be united with
our brothers and sisters in
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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Christ.
If you look to look at Ephesians
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4 one through 6, you would read,
Therefore, I the prisoner of the
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00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320
Lord, employ you to walk in a
manner worthy of the calling
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with which you have been called,
with humility and gentleness,
611
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400
with patience, showing tolerance
for one another and love, being
612
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440
diligent to preserve the unity
of the Spirit.
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00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600
And then notice he's going to
say this word one a lot in the
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00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600
bond of peace.
There's one body, 1 Spirit, just
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00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440
as you were called to 1 hope of
your calling. 1 Lord, 1 faith,
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one baptism, one God and Father
of all, who is over all and
617
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
through all and in all.
You read something like that?
618
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And unity is at the center.
We need to be diligent,
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preserving it.
We need to be patient, we need
620
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,040
to be gentle, we need to be
humble.
621
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We need to be, you know, bearing
with one another's burdens and
622
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600
and love.
Excellent #2 So really to kind
623
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,040
of come full circle to the
question, how can we get along?
624
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First, we accept others as God
does in Christ.
625
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,840
None of us are perfect.
All of us are on this path.
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00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,880
So even if it is maybe something
substantive, even then, you
627
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320
know, doesn't mean you have to
accept it or condone it.
628
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,080
But no, ultimately that, you
know, if they're a believer,
629
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God's accepted them and they're
going to, you know, God's going
630
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080
to work on them in his way.
And then to accept that Jesus is
631
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Lord and judge and people
ultimately answer to him, not to
632
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,440
us.
So we don't put ourselves in
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00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,080
that that that place of
judgment.
634
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160
And then be patient.
Pastor Joe throws up this like
635
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
crazy.
Ackerman, Jack White's like
636
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600
shouting on the back.
I know what this is.
637
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,800
Yeah.
A lot of lot of letters strung
638
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600
together.
Yeah, yeah, it's Please be
639
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patient with me because God is
not finished with me yet.
640
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Did you remember that?
I remember the end of it, but I
641
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920
I couldn't remember the first
like to Please be patient
642
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,800
myself.
There you go.
643
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,560
Patience is good.
That Ephesians 4 passage talks
644
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,040
about it.
And yeah, man, you want people
645
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,800
to be patient with you, be
patient with others.
646
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Harder, hard to, you know, live
out easy to think you can do it.
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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,000
But it's something very, very
important.
648
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,480
Yeah, well, as a stronger
brother, it's easy for me to be
649
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
patient with others.
That's right.
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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,680
So good.
Well, I'm glad Paul continues
651
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040
this conversation.
We can see I'm going to hold my
652
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800
thought on this, this chart.
I'm going to send you a picture
653
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,840
of this and maybe I'll be good
at the end of the other one
654
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800
because you can see all sides of
it too.
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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Yeah.
So this week, really going to
656
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,480
hit hard on the person who is
weaker in the faith judging
657
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
those who are exercising their
liberties.
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00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Next week, look forward to kind
of the reverse, like, hey,
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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,560
you're using these liberties,
come on, love each other.
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So stay tuned for a week from
now.
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That's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take
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Two.
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663
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Cool, Michael, I, you know, I,
I, I do, I, I will say Michael
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Jordan's my favorite basketball
player.
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Michael Jordan is not my
favorite basketball player, but,
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but I like, I like Michael
Jordan.
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I'm nothing against Michael
Jordan.
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And I'll tell you today, I feel
like I'm playing the flu game a
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little under the weather, but
got my Gatorade.
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I'm ready to do the podcast.
Now for the UN uninformed, you
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might have to tell people what
the flu game is 'cause I like if
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you just mentioned it, I would
be like, but now I I kind of
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remember so you you might have
to.
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I don't know the, you know,
we're talking late 90s Utah
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Jazz.
I believe Michael Jordan is the
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Bulls are playing Utah Jazz, I
think, and Michael got some food
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poisoning.
I think that there is there is a
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interesting history behind it
where I think the person to
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blame is like someone from the
hotel.
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I think it they were playing in
Utah and the conspiracy is.
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Bad.
Pizza I don't.
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Know I don't.
Think it's been in in a couple
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recent years people have said
that and they've like tried to
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track down the actual guy and
stuff.
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It's kind of funny.
I think it was Domino's or
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something.
I don't know bad pizza, but I
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don't know.
You know, he was pumped with
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heavy fluids.
Like you, you see pictures, you
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Google it.
Scottie Pippen's like carrying
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him on the court, you know, at
time outs and stuff.
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It just feeds into the the
legend of, you know, the
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maniacal nature flu.
Casts.
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The flu cast and and I'm really
not sick but I got my Gatorade.
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I thought I would say it and I
was thinking about 1/2 baked
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idea.
Oh, OK.
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We should, we should test
pastors for PEDs, you know, you
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know, performance tenancy drugs,
like I'm trying to recover.
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But maybe this one's like,
Pastor Gerald, a great sermon.
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Do we get him tested?
Make sure he's not like pumped
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up on something to get him
through?
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No, I think I think that's
probably pretty good.
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You know, especially like when
he, you know, he had that
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sickness, but then he kind of
pulled through.
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In an amazing way.
And obviously, when did that man
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likes coffee So so.
He drinks coffee non-stop.
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Obviously I, I used to drink
coffee more than I, than I, than
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I have than my cardiologist when
I went Afib was like, you got to
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restrict your coffee just to the
morning and keep it smaller.
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So yeah, Speaking of food
poisoning.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
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So, and this is I, I want to
bring it back to the flu game.
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Oh great.
Do it.
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But when I was in the Navy, we
had to stand watch.
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And so like after 6-9 months, a
year of being an Ensign, you
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kind of got trained up.
Then the next thing you had to
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do was train up to stand watch.
And you started out as officer
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of the day, which basically
meant that you kind of did all
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the footwork type of stuff.
And then you graduated to CEO,
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which was command duty officer.
Command duty officer reported
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directly to the captain, whoever
was acting captain of the day.
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So like, if there was something
that broke out, you know, you
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might send your OD out to the
officer of the day, you have to
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investigate or something.
But then you're the one calling
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the captain.
Like, hey, we found this.
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those things.
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You want to just be nothing.
So I say all that to say,
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missing one of those watches was
a big deal.
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Like, you know, you got watch,
you're supposed to show up in
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the morning.
You do turnover, you turn over,
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like if you're the CDO, you turn
over in front of the captain and
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it's like the outgoing CDO gives
his report, his or her report.
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And then the incoming CDO would
like, you know, the captain
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would say, all right, you know,
these are the things to look out
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for today, blah, blah, blah.
Well, one of the people missed
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it and I wasn't a great friend
of this person, but the rumor is
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that they were imbibing a little
bit of the of the Alpha Hall and
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was someone called like, dude,
where are you?
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And he's like, I can't even come
in.
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food poisoning.
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The classic.
And then he he the the whoever
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was like, well, he needs to get
a so he had to go to the doctor.
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but he somehow he got some
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letter that said he had food
poisoning.
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I don't know how much he paid to
do that and they got got out of.
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It if Elon Musk was around
during those times, he wouldn't
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have stood a chance.
That's right, it's.
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Oh my goodness.
So maybe I'd say about to say
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food poisoning or a little bit
too much alcohol for MJ, you
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know what I'm saying?
That's that's great.
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There is also he he, Michael
Jordan was so maniacal about
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just competitive about
everything.
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Was he like Brady?
What the, the, the people will
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say, yeah, like that.
They wanted to wanted to win at
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all cost.
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Where if you go back, I think
this is early 90s, I think they
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were playing in a NBA Finals
against the Suns.
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Not only what was he competitive
about basketball, but about
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everything in life.
He had some gambling issues.
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He's really into golf and he
played and like literally like
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on the like the day of NBA
Finals, like they said he would
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play like 36 holes of golf like
before the game because he just
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had to play golf.
And like they would even like
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they, they like made a comment
like, oh, if you watch a certain
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game, he like looks noticeably
darker 'cause he was in the sun
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for like 4 hours in Phoenix
before the game and he would say
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3:00 in the morning.
Like and I was like, he just
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could, he just had a motor that
wouldn't stop and he could do
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everything.
It's kind of crazy.
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Whereas like LeBron, I think
he's a competitor, but he's more
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like, I'm going to take care of
my body, I'm going to stretch it
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out, I'm going to do all the
right things.
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We've spent a lot of money on my
food, hyperbaric chamber.
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But he's not like the I'm going
to strangle you on the court.
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But he is very committed in a
different way.
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Maybe his motor's not there as
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seeing these different athletes,
you know what I mean?
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Yeah, and I think sometimes, you
know, I think listening to him,
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didn't MJ kind of have a tough
childhood type stuff?
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I don't know, LeBron may have
too.
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they cause you to like the
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insecurities and stuff they.
You know, that is true.
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I don't know how accurate all
this is, but if you've ever
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we're going off the rails, but
Malcolm Gladwell's like outlier
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book talks a lot about these
people that succeed.
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Like you're saying just from not
that you want your child to
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these terrible things.
And then when you you give them
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these great environments, it's
like, oh, they're they might
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succeed, but statistically much
less likely to succeed, right.
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They're like, in a crazy way.
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They're going to succeed, but
they're kind of, you know, B
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plus.
Yeah, that's right.
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A.
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A.
Minus level, like they're going
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to just kind of be high in the
middle.
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It's like safer lower ceiling
but lower even higher had.
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Like a horrible relationship
with his father.
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Apparently.
Go figure.
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Yeah, yeah.
So.
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Great.
Well, if we're going to take it
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back to food and food poisoning,
this passage talks a little
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about food.
Should you eat meat?
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Sacrifice idols.
Spoiler, vegetarians or weak,
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We'll we'll talk about that and
more on the podcast.
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Let's take it to the next level.
From the hearts of the Low
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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where
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we take theology to the next
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All right, So I don't know about
you.
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You may have been young for this
1992.
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I was depending if it was before
September, I was still one.
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I turned to 92 September.
OK, so you have been young, but
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I vividly remember this and I
remember this phrase going
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through, you know, just going
through everywhere, especially
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in athletics, playing basketball
or something.
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And anytime there would be
someone would say kind of not
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really.
They'd be like, why can't we all
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get along?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was like in the culture.
For sure in the culture, but if
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you lived there in that time,
you saw and, and I think, you
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know, obviously America not
perfect, but I think you see
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some tide changing.
So I think this was start of the
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like we saw these this video,
these 4 white police officers,
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you know, just hitting the snot
out of Rodney King didn't seem
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like there would be any way that
could be justified.
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They go to court, you're
expecting some type of guilty
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and they get acquitted and
you're like LA erupts in riots.
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Now, I'm not saying that riots
are good, but 'cause there were
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a lot, there were, there were,
you know, 60 deaths, 100 or $1
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billion in damages.
Where you get, I think that's
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where you get these pictures of
these.
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I think there were Korean shop
owners on top of their shop with
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a KS like saying you're going to
stay away from my shop.
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Like those are the there's a
section.
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That.
Escaped because they they were
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literally protecting it.
But I think it spoke to the
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injustice that people felt
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And of course, Rodney goes on
television afterwards and he
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says he's, you know, why can't
we all just get along?
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And, you know, this plea for
both sides to, you know, do
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what's right to, you know, love
11 another.
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And Joel's going to take that
and say, you know, in our
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churches that, you know,
obviously at least you don't
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have people that are beating
each other in your churches,
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right?
Depends.
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I'm scared.
Yeah, I hope not.
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I hope not.
Yeah, the issues might seem
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smaller, but there's a lot of
issues.
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Yeah, there are a lot of issues.
Some of those issues are things
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we got to take a stand on.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
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And this is not a text to say
nothing matters.
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Right.
And I appreciated Joel saying
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somewhere in the sermon like
he's just spent 11 chapters
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letting down the foundational
issues that he's not going to
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budget on salvation, sin, all
that stuff.
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But when it comes to some
things, they just don't in the
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end matter that much and we
should find a way to get along
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on those.
Yeah, and, and just, I mean,
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what you just said, Paul
develops the firm doctrines
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very, very well.
He also, he doesn't spend quite
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11 chapters, but he's been so
good bit of text.
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It's like on the other side of
it.
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So this week's passage titled
How Can We Get Along, looks at
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Romans 14 verses, one through
12, a lot of texts.
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Do you want to take it verse by
verse?
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You want to give it?
Read it all right now.
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Let's just take it verse by
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I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, verse one, Paul jumps in
and he says, now accept the one
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who is weak in faith, but not
for the purpose of passing
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judgment on his opinions.
And so right out of the gate
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we're kind of confronted with
this weak in faith.
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What's that mean?
Yeah, and goes on verse two.
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One person has faith that he may
eat all things, but he who is
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weak eats vegetables.
I love it.
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I love it.
I that is.
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That rings so true today.
Oh, so all you vegans and
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vegetarians, I'm assuming we
probably don't have a huge
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following, but you may be out
there and and I think there's
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different reasons that you might
choose that.
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Yeah, some people have allergies
to meat proteins.
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Sorry, I'm just going to throw
this out here.
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Yeah, I, well, you know, in
front of me, like, I think it's
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related to like, Birch pond,
that kind of thing.
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I have a hard time eating
vegetables so my throat gets all
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like itchy, you know?
Certain vegetables are you are
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you're not just.
Anaphylactic, but it's like my
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throat beats for like 5 or 10
minutes, then they'll go away.
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It's not if I cook, If it's
cooked like a cooked carrot, no
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problem.
But a raw carrot, even if it's
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washed like carrot, cucumber,
like all of these things that I
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really like like, and it's like
avocado, pineapple, It's very
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common.
Pineapple's.
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I was going to say Pineapple's
the only one, but what I've
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heard it's that acid enzyme in
there that starts breaking, but
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it's like attacking your your
cells and you have an immune
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response to that.
I also saw recently that
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pineapple juice can is like an
antiseptic.
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It kills certain bacteria.
But all that to say, you know,
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every, everyone's different.
You're right, different reasons.
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I was going the other way.
It's hard to eat vegetables.
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So I'm trying to stay strong,
trying to stay away from being
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weak in faith.
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And so maybe we should give a
little bit of the context
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because there probably were not
people who were vegans because
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they were for animal rights like
like we see in today's culture.
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But most of the meat was rather
expensive, and especially if you
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wanted meat that didn't go
through this idle sacrifice kind
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of ritual.
And so if you wanted to buy
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meat, it almost certainly had
been, you know, butchered from
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the animal, rested before this
idol and then taken to market to
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sold be sold.
And so you can see how someone
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might have concerns about that.
Yeah, and like you're saying,
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you know, meat that's been out
for like a week or something, or
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it was offered an adults like
going to be on the cheap on the
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discount.
Maybe you're like and you know,
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you you mix that with all the
food laws and the OT, things
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kind of get complicated, you
know, where there's a lot of
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these different thoughts and
feelings.
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And the churches, Jew and
Gentile mixed together too.
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Right, because you don't only
have was this meat sacrificed to
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an idol, but is this meat from a
clean animal?
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Is this a cow?
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Is a sheep?
All that would have played into
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it.
So you can see how the
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congregation of mixed folks,
mixed backgrounds would have
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issues with this and I.
And so if we were to find what
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it means to be weak in the
faith, Joel says, and I agree
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with him, those whose
consciences are overly
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particular, overly particular,
like you're just, oh, you're
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offended by every little thing.
Yeah, it leads you kind of on
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that judgmental side of things.
I'll mention it later.
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So don't forget man pull.
I want to, I want to say this so
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you can remind me.
There's a really helpful chart
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I'm going to try to find.
There's a guy I like.
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His name's Andy Nasali, and he
wrote this book called
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Conscience.
It's like a it's awesome because
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it's a short book, just looks at
like this passage passage in
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First Corinthians and really
practically looks at some of
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this stuff.
What's helpful is that he grew
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up in like, you know, super
strict context.
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He he covered with a guy who's
like a missionary and you like
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grapple with all these things.
You know, that's I think where
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you see it a lot too.
If you think about it in a
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missions context or Jew and
Gentile coming together, that's
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where it gets kind of tricky
because cultures are kind of
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collided.
Yeah, it's funny that you
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mentioned that.
And take a little short aside,
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like I grew up, economic
disaster hit my family when I
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was like 2.
Dad lost his job.
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Apparently before then, it was
like high on the hog.
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Like Christmas is like you've
never seen before.
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And then, you know, I remember
growing up like Michael's never
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seen a Christmas like that.
It's OK, Sorry.
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But I remember there was always
like this fond remembrance of
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the church that they went to in
Michigan.
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And I know the name of it, but I
won't say the name of it.
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But when when I hear them talk
about it, it was very
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legalistic.
Oh, ladies, no slacks, No, like
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all these rules.
And I, I think you come out of
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that and you are you that is
that overly particular?
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You're so since your conscience
is overly sensitive.
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Yeah.
And you just naturally judge
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people and and it's in you know
what you think is think is
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right.
Oh, that's good.
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I will I will read this about
the strong.
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Those with a strong conscience
are liberated brothers and
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sisters in Christ who fully
understand what it means to be
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free in Christ.
They don't cling to the
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meaningless traditions and forms
of religion.
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They understand fully they are
free from sin, death, hell, and
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Satan.
They understand they are not
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obligated to follow holy days
and ceremonies.
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They know they're free to make
choices dependent on how the
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Spirit of God moves in their
hearts.
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Such people are strong in the
faith.
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The weaker those individuals who
continue to hang on to rituals
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and ceremonies of their past,
refusing to let go.
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They don't believe they have
freedom in Christ.
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They do otherwise.
Such freedom threatens them, so
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they prefer to remain as they
are.
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That is John MacArthur.
So you have the spectrum, the
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weak, particular, judgmental,
overly sensitive.
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And then there's, I think, but
John MacArthur's talking about a
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strong conscious in the middle.
But I think you can also have an
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like, you can be too strong.
We're actually arrogant.
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And if you go too far in either
of those directions, you can
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actually be in heresy.
And then you can be in OK,
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you're just wrong.
And then you can be, you know,
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it's, it's a bit, it's spectrum.
Right.
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And so I think the bulk of
today's passage is going to be
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pointed at the overly
particular, like, hey, you need
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to not judge this person.
Don't be so particular.
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Next week's sermon is going to
be more pointed at the person
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who's on the strong side.
Like, hey, is meat that big a
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deal that you're going to?
You're going to.
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So I like Paul kind of.
It's really a hammer on both
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sides.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I love it and we get this
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example of build a gentile just.
Strolling on it with his.
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Barbecue pork.
Pork at the church potluck.
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He's been smoking this all day
and people are like, I can't.
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Do this.
I'm there for you, Bill.
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Like whatever people don't eat,
you can give it to me.
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Yeah.
And so you can see someone, you
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know, doing that and they spent
time and they're giving.
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And then people go, hey, I
can't, I can't do this.
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Or even be offended, mad.
And be like, yeah, what the
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heck.
And then Bill being like, no,
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what the heck for you, you know
you can eat this.
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So you can see how that would
create tension.
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And, and again, you said this at
the top, Michael, this is not
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like should we murder or not
murder?
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It's my conscience.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
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This is a issue of conscience is
not, you know, this doctrinal
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moral sin.
It's it's this kind of it could,
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could go.
It's a tough one because it's
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not really it could go either
way.
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There is a right answer, but
there's not a totally black and
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white.
Right, there's a guy that I've
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heard address this before and.
The cocoa mug.
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I should have to drink out of
the cocoa mug whenever, whenever
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I talk about him.
But he will say something like
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doing something that's not
wrong, that is against your
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conscience.
You can make that wrong.
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Correct.
But you can't do something that
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is wrong because it was your
conscience and make it right.
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Yeah, that, that that's
worthwhile to, to think about
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because I think I think that's
exactly, exactly right.
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And you don't want people to sit
against their conscience, but
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you need to know what scripture
says to.
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Yeah, that that's really good.
He gave some examples, you know,
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alcohol, talk about worship
styles, entertainment.
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We all probably don't have the
same movie standards, all this
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stuff, you know?
I don't watch Lord of the Rings
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because I think it's immoral.
I want to say that right now.
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I'm just kidding.
I was.
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Just going to say for all of us
of the group in the 80s, go
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watch an 80s movie and you're
like.
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Whoa, that's PG.
That was PG.
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That was PG13.
There's no way.
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So I, I think our trends have
moved a little bit so.
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So you know, what's, what's our
response now that we kind of
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have some context, There's weak
in faith, strong in faith.
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You know, how are we to respond?
Well, going back to Romans 14,
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one, it says accept the one who
is weak in faith, but not for
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the purpose of passing judgement
on his opinions.
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So accept him, but not to not to
just come down hard on him.
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Yeah, yeah.
And Accept has this idea of
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being warm, having kindness,
genuine love.
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That's what John Scott would
say.
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It's not merely just tolerating.
So it's not like I'll I'll put
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up with you and your smart, your
smoked pork.
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It's like, hey, I love you.
I can't eat that, but I love
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you.
And Bill should have that same
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idea.
Like I, you know, I'm going to
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lovingly, yeah, I got this for
us, you know, whatever that,
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whatever that looks like, but
you are embracing each other
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knowing that you, you got
differences.
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I think I think that's great.
Let's keep moving on to verse
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three.
It says the one who eats is not
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to regard with contempt the one
who does not, and the one who
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doesn't eat is not to judge the
one who eats.
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And listen, this is the why.
For God has accepted him.
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And I think we're gonna hit this
point a little bit over and
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over, even getting stronger
towards the end of the passage.
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No, that that's really good and
and this is something that I
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think is good even for some
minor, you know, these are some
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practical issues, but there are
like third level tier doctrinal
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issues.
That's true.
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We can have differences of
opinion.
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Now, sometimes you have to say
this is where our church stands
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on this because we can't, you
can't really do both.
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Like, for example, the issue of
speaking in tongues, like you
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either got to allow it or you
not allow it.
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Like 'cause you can't have it
have both ways.
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But that doesn't mean you have
to have contempt for a Church of
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the opposite persuasion.
You know, you can say, hey, we
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disagree.
Here's why we disagree.
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But we still, we still love you
not we don't just tolerate you.
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You know, we have kind
intentions for you.
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You want God's best for you.
We want you to walk in the
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fullness of all that stuff is we
just.
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Does it make sense for us to
hold joint worship together?
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Because we have different ideas
about how that should.
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Should work.
No, I love it.
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And again, Paul's kind of going
a little bit both both ways here
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in the bit overarching theme of
or idea.
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Verse 3 is God just give this
person that they're a believer
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and and so you know, if God has
accepted this person, who are we
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to say like get out of here.
Verse 4 says, who are you to
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judge the servant of another to
his own master.
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He stands or falls and he will
stand, for the Lord is able to
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make him stand.
So similar kind of almost like
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getting stronger with this
point.
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Yeah, I think this is good.
And you, you, we got to
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understand our role in this.
And, you know, local authority
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exists, but we ultimately answer
to God, not to each other.
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So we have our authority.
So we you know, if there's a
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local law that says you
shouldn't do something and it's
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not, you know, you should, but
ultimately our ultimate
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authority is to God.
And so you could have, you know,
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local local authority in the
church.
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You have government authority,
but ultimately, you know, I
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don't answer to Zacks that
doesn't answer to me.
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You know, even true with like
husbands wife like.
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At the end of the day, Yeah.
At the end of the day.
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Husbands love your wives
regardless whether she you know
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that cause the end of the day
you ultimately stand and before
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the Lord and then I like this he
alluded to this passage, but
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this is one of my favorite
passages.
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I almost started quoting this
when I was praying at the end of
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the service today, but I didn't
but it's out of Jude says now to
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him who's able to keep you from
stumbling and to make you to
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stand in the presence of his
glory, blameless with great joy
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to only God our Savior through
Christ Jesus our Lord be glory
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and majesty, dominion, authority
before all time now and forever.
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So like you know all the
pictures we have the people
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running with angels, people
running into God.
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You know, what do they do?
They're just they're just like
457
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falling down and you know the
angels say stand up.
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Jesus doesn't tell them that,
but because we've been accepted
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by God, which is Paul and Joel's
point, we're going to be able to
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be able to be made to stand
boldly before the throne of God,
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you know, because we're wrapped
in in Christ righteousness.
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So.
That's a good, big, good
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picture.
Standing verse falling.
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Yeah.
Yeah, bringing it full back.
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You know, that's that's why we
should not judge one another.
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If we keep moving along, verse 5
says kind of going to a
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different topic, moving from
food to one person regards one
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day above another.
Another regards everyday alike.
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Each person must be fully
convinced in his own mind.
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And I like the end of that first
because it's not saying nothing
471
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matters.
Don't think about it.
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It's like, no, no, you, you need
to have an opinion.
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Maybe you don't hold on to it as
life or death, but you're
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convinced.
This is what I believe based on
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Scripture.
Yep, and and This is why.
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And guess what?
If someone, you know, Seven Day
477
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Adventists, they have some other
doctrinal issues, but you want
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to have service on a Saturday,
OK, there, there's nothing
479
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that's that would prohibit that.
Now we know that the, you know,
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the regular thing became the
first day of the week, but I'm
481
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sure there were Jews that were
like, hey, we still want to have
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it on the Sabbath, OK?
Right.
483
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Yeah, right, right.
And if you, it's really
484
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760
interesting, even looking at,
you look at a verse like this
485
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and some of our Presbyterian
friends that are really hard
486
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,160
reformed, they'll be like, no,
no, no, this is only like full
487
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new moons and holidays.
Because, you know, we're
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Sabatarians, like, you know, the
new Sabbath, you know, that kind
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of thing.
So different, different people
490
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,680
kind of got different views on
that.
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But it's interesting 'cause this
is like they say something like
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that.
People always go, go here, you
493
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,680
know?
Yeah, I don't know how you would
494
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,880
I, I don't know how you could
dance around that cause Paul
495
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480
really just says one person
regards one day above another,
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00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,200
another regards every day alike.
Talk to Paul guys.
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Talk to Paul.
That's great, that's great.
498
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,440
Verse 6 says he who observes the
day observed for the Lord, and
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if who who eats, do so for the
Lord, For he gives thanks to
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God, and he who eats not for the
Lord, he does not eat and gives
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00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,480
thanks to God.
For not one of us lives for
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himself, not one dies for
himself.
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00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,320
For if we live, we live for the
Lord, or if we die, we die for
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the Lord.
Therefore whether we live or
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00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,760
die, we are the Lords.
Did you notice a pattern there,
506
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Michael?
Oh, yeah, yeah, we are for the
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00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,640
Lord.
And everything we should do, it
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00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,400
should be under the Lord.
Like you, you work, you got a
509
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,640
bad employer under the Lord.
So even in this mindset, you
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00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,120
know, we're tolerating one
another, we're embracing one
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00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,360
another, we're loving one
another for the Lord.
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00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,800
And if I'm dealing with a weaker
brother, or if a weaker
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00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800
brother's dealing with me, or if
I'm the weaker brother doing a
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00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,760
stronger brother, if, if
everything I'm doing is just
515
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,920
like, man, that's what God says.
I think there's more grace in
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that.
You know, I think people see
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00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920
that and like, man, I don't
agree with brother so and so,
518
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,360
but does he love the Lord or
what?
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00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,600
You know what I mean?
And it's like, I think there's
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00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,600
more grace and you it's easier
to work with someone when you
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00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480
keep that at the focus.
I think that's good.
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00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,520
All right, verse 9.
How about I read one of them.
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00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,480
It says we've just been, No, no,
no, I, I felt like I've been
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00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,840
doing all the color commentary
on.
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00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,720
I'll let you do some color
commentary.
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00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,080
All right #9 For to this end
Christ died and lived again,
527
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,160
that he might be Lord both of
the dead and of the living.
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00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,080
Pastor Joel's gonna make make
this point that, you know,
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you'll look at a passage like
this, it's all about, you know,
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00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,120
conscience and this kind of
thing.
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But at the center of it is
Christ is Lord that you know,
532
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,440
you're you're saved, you're
going to heaven.
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00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Great.
But your whole life, you have a
534
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,680
master.
Your whole life is transformed.
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00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,720
He is Lord, He is the King not
just of you, but of but of
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00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
everything.
And if you get that right, a lot
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00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600
of this other stuff I think kind
of falls into place more because
538
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,600
Christ is Lord of, of
everything, the dead and the
539
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,640
living, every knee shall bow,
every tongue confess that Jesus
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00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Christ is Lord.
And I think we we think about
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00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600
something like getting along
with others.
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00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000
If you think that Christ is
Lord, which we all do, and you
543
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,040
realize that we answer to God,
God's accepted these brothers
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00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,320
and sisters in Christ, we're not
going to be judged for I'm not
545
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,280
going to just for what you did.
You're not just for what I did.
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And so at the end of the day, we
can rest in knowing that the
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00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600
Lord of the universe is going to
take care of things.
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00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
Excellent, verse 10 says, but
you, why do you judge your
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00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,320
brother or you?
Again, why do you regard your
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00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,200
brother with contempt?
For we all will stand before the
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00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,880
judgement seat of God.
For it is written, as I live,
552
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,880
says the Lord, Every knee shall
bow to me, and every tongue
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00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,840
shall give praise to God.
So then each one of us will give
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00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,280
an account of himself to God.
So that was 10 through 12.
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00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,120
I love it.
And Pastor Gill didn't make this
556
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,280
comment, too.
No one's like, man, all these
557
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
stronger brothers you're trying
to get on my case.
558
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,160
We're the stronger brother all
the time.
559
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,000
I know so that that's pretty
funny because I think we all
560
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,760
think that way.
Everyone wants to be the
561
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,520
stronger brother and by virtue,
no one wants to be the weaker
562
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,440
brother.
I think it's funny.
563
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,680
We'll use examples like holy
days and alcohol and we'll try
564
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,320
to make this like 1 to one
comparison.
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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840
But if you make that 11
comparison about alcohol,
566
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760
you're, you're saying I am the
weaker brother or, you know,
567
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
some of these things like the
think through because no one
568
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,960
wants to say I'm the weaker
brother.
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00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,720
Everyone thinks they're the
stronger brother.
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00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,800
So I, I think that's good to
have perspective and realize you
571
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,720
might not maybe you think
you're, maybe you're not nailing
572
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320
on every single thing in life
forever.
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00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,160
You know, yeah, no, that's very
good.
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And then this other passage, and
I think this is so good that,
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00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720
you know, Scripture is
consistent.
576
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Of course, you'd hope it would
be consistent because this is
577
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Paul from both places.
But this isn't the only place
578
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,080
that Paul addresses this.
And I remember talking to, I
579
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,800
think it was one of my kids
recently.
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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880
And I was like, Hey, you know,
you do your best and don't even
581
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
try to judge yourself, like,
because we were talking about
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00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,880
motives and stuff.
But this is what Paul had to
583
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,120
say.
First Corinthians 4 one through
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5.
Let a man regard us in this
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00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,040
manner as servants of Christ and
stewards of the mysteries of
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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
God.
In this case, moreover, it is
587
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,840
required of stewards that one be
found trustworthy.
588
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,040
But to me it is a very small
thing that I may be examined by
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00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,760
you or by any human court.
In fact, I do not even examine
590
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,000
myself, for I am conscious of
nothing against myself, yet I
591
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720
am.
I am not by this acquitted, but
592
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,400
the one who examines me is the
Lord.
593
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,400
Therefore, do not go on passing
judgment before the time, but
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00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200
wait until the Lord comes who
will both bring to light the
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00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,360
things hidden in darkness and
disclose the motives of men's
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00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,000
hearts.
And then each man's praise will
597
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,760
come to him from God.
And if you were to keep reading,
598
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,240
that's where he gets into.
You know, one man builds with
599
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280
stone, one man builds with
rubies, and then you know, it's
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00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680
going to be judged in in what's
good remains.
601
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,800
And so huge passage on them, on,
you know, serving the Lord and
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00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080
not trying to get caught up and
judge him one another.
603
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480
I I think that's so easy to
judge one another.
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00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200
So if we're if we're moving on
to application, Paul has this
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passion, not just, you know, in
this passage, but in several
606
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,000
others that we be united with
our brothers and sisters in
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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Christ.
If you look to look at Ephesians
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00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560
4 one through 6, you would read,
Therefore, I the prisoner of the
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00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320
Lord, employ you to walk in a
manner worthy of the calling
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00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
with which you have been called,
with humility and gentleness,
611
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400
with patience, showing tolerance
for one another and love, being
612
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440
diligent to preserve the unity
of the Spirit.
613
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600
And then notice he's going to
say this word one a lot in the
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00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600
bond of peace.
There's one body, 1 Spirit, just
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00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440
as you were called to 1 hope of
your calling. 1 Lord, 1 faith,
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00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,680
one baptism, one God and Father
of all, who is over all and
617
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
through all and in all.
You read something like that?
618
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,880
And unity is at the center.
We need to be diligent,
619
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,600
preserving it.
We need to be patient, we need
620
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,040
to be gentle, we need to be
humble.
621
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680
We need to be, you know, bearing
with one another's burdens and
622
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600
and love.
Excellent #2 So really to kind
623
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,040
of come full circle to the
question, how can we get along?
624
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120
First, we accept others as God
does in Christ.
625
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,840
None of us are perfect.
All of us are on this path.
626
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,880
So even if it is maybe something
substantive, even then, you
627
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320
know, doesn't mean you have to
accept it or condone it.
628
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,080
But no, ultimately that, you
know, if they're a believer,
629
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,600
God's accepted them and they're
going to, you know, God's going
630
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080
to work on them in his way.
And then to accept that Jesus is
631
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Lord and judge and people
ultimately answer to him, not to
632
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,440
us.
So we don't put ourselves in
633
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,080
that that that place of
judgment.
634
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160
And then be patient.
Pastor Joe throws up this like
635
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
crazy.
Ackerman, Jack White's like
636
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600
shouting on the back.
I know what this is.
637
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,800
Yeah.
A lot of lot of letters strung
638
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600
together.
Yeah, yeah, it's Please be
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00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
patient with me because God is
not finished with me yet.
640
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Did you remember that?
I remember the end of it, but I
641
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920
I couldn't remember the first
like to Please be patient
642
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,800
myself.
There you go.
643
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,560
Patience is good.
That Ephesians 4 passage talks
644
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,040
about it.
And yeah, man, you want people
645
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,800
to be patient with you, be
patient with others.
646
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Harder, hard to, you know, live
out easy to think you can do it.
647
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,000
But it's something very, very
important.
648
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,480
Yeah, well, as a stronger
brother, it's easy for me to be
649
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
patient with others.
That's right.
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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,680
So good.
Well, I'm glad Paul continues
651
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040
this conversation.
We can see I'm going to hold my
652
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800
thought on this, this chart.
I'm going to send you a picture
653
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,840
of this and maybe I'll be good
at the end of the other one
654
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800
because you can see all sides of
it too.
655
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Yeah.
So this week, really going to
656
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,480
hit hard on the person who is
weaker in the faith judging
657
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
those who are exercising their
liberties.
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00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Next week, look forward to kind
of the reverse, like, hey,
659
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,560
you're using these liberties,
come on, love each other.
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00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,480
So stay tuned for a week from
now.
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That's our take.
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663
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