Wisdom Literature Part 6

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This is something I know our
listeners don't have to worry

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about when our podcast is on,
but it's napping.

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We talked about it before, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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And, and the reason I bring it
up, we were at home groups

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yesterday and your daughter,
expert Napper, can just fall

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asleep on the couch like it's
nothing.

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Conked out.
I'll, I'll tell you I'm

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impressed.
I'm similar where I can sleep on

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a dime, whether I'm on a plane
or if I'm at like a family

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gather gathering or something,
but can be Thanksgiving people

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over I I'll still just take that
afternoon.

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I'm on the couch and it's like,
there's something to that, that

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man, it's good to be able to do.
It's a little bit more

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difficult.
I've gotten better about being

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able to sleep on a plane 'cause
that's really, that's a control

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thing.
It's like it's moving and I'm

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like, do I trust this?
And I, you know, I finally get

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to the point where I, you know,
if I'm molecular asleep, it's

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not going to change, I think,
but maybe if I were praying it

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would.
That's that's true, yeah.

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But it is also like I can fall
asleep if someone else is

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driving, but it's not easy for
me to.

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But if if no one's driving like
the car should still I within 90

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seconds or less, I can I can be
out.

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Yeah.
So you you were on a road trip

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today.
On a road trip to J.

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Does Jill drive smooth enough
for you to sleep or?

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You're you're trying to call a
strike.

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So we did leave at 5:30 today.
Oh, bright and early, yeah.

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Bright and early we were wheels
rolling, which it's a pretty

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that's a that's that's a big
deal for the Mott.

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Family.
To be rolling that early and we

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did have stopping at gas.
We knew we'd have stopping at

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gas, but it was like playing
like, hey, we'll, we'll just get

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gas real quick.
But Phoebe, she still had her

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pull up on 'cause we just
grabbed basically out of bed.

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And but you know, when she says
I need to go to the bathroom,

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it's probably best to let her
use the actual bathroom.

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So like on the way up, Jill was
like, I guess I'm gonna take her

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to the bathroom real quick.
And I was like, OK, I'm gonna

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get like 5 minutes.
So boom, asleep.

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Then, you know, she knocked on
the window to let him.

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So I woke up and then on the way
back I was like, I'm probably

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gonna need another nap at some
point in time.

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She's like, that's fine, let's
just drive a little bit.

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Let's see if Phoebe needs to
stop or, or something to go

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potty.
Phoebe actually went to sleep

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and she was sitting there like
catching flies.

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And so I was like, OK, I think
I'm going to do it right.

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Now so we.
Pulled over to the side of the

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road.
Well, not the side of the road.

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We went to it like it was a
craziest setup I've ever seen.

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Gas station, church and like
some other building.

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No, we should see more of.
That it's all together.

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So I just like pulled in the gas
station, went right into a

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church parking spot with again,
like within 90 seconds was out.

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I set my timer for 15 minutes
'cause I don't want you don't

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want to nap too long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2 1/2 minutes

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left I was like no, I was like
dude, back at it driving.

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It's like, you know, some people
they're gonna run from football

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season do 2A days.
You got 2 naps in the day, 2

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power naps so you could take see
everything Anderson had to

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offer.
Now that's, that's pretty good

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nap.
I, I always appreciate a good

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nap.
I don't nap as much as I should

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but man get a good nap changes
your life.

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I saw some robotic patience
napping today because Lydia's

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interested in going to nursing.
So we got to see like, you know,

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they have like these little
rooms, hospital rooms set up

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where you can go and like, if
something's going on.

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And she was like, yeah, these
are some of these are more

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higher fidelity than others.
This little, this little child

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is our highest fidelity.
You know, she was telling him

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about all the things he can do.
And I was like, can it vomit?

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And she's like, yes, it can
vomit.

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And she was like, and it can
cry.

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And I think other things I was
like, I didn't know.

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Yeah, should I?
Follow up yeah, so 'cause I've

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heard like part of the worst
part of nursing is like the

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smell sometimes and some of the
fluids.

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So yeah, I don't know if they
make the.

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Simulation room, that would be
crazy.

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They probably would get a lot of
people that were like, yeah,

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it's, you know, it's better to
have your degree and fall into

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that.
We were like, I'm already in

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here, you know?
I don't know if this is bad to

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ask.
Alvin, we should ask.

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It but when you were getting
your PTM, I'm assuming you

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worked on cadavers, correct?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Was that undergrad and grad or
just?

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Undergrad was like we had a
cadaver for like anatomy class

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in the labs you would go
through.

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We didn't have like a like bunch
for at MUSC.

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We had they had like a bajillion
cadavers that we would rotate

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through and and look at.
So I think now we're on to

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school.
It's a little bit better.

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But when it was there was still
cadavers good.

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But you know.
To CSU, do you know if CSU?

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I don't know.
If they do or not, they have APT

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school now so I was like maybe
they do but I don't know if

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that's just for 'cause I think
most of the.

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Schools come out too though.
They were one of two undergrad

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schools that had cadavers in the
state.

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Anderson and we were trying to
decide between MUSC and CSU

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because we heard both people say
that they were cadavers at both

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those.
Places I could definitely vouch

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for has it, but I don't know if
that's just like the grad school

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part of it so it doesn't count
kind of thing.

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She was saying that are the only
school that non medical

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professional professionals can
go in and see.

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And she's like, let me give you
some examples like people going

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to counseling, they come in and
maybe look at brain structures.

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She's like, we've had people
taking voice come and look at

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like vocal flaps and like
Clarinix.

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Oh yeah, that's kind of cool to
see that stuff.

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I might have told the story
before, but first day of PT

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school for anatomy lab in the
cadavers had an OT standing next

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to me and she just hit the
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Like just, you know, what they
say really gets a lot of people

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on cadavers specifically.
Eyes.

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Good.
Keep guessing body parts.

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Mouth, hands, hands.
Really get people to keep like

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firstly, they kept hands
covered, but I guess it's so

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personal.
I don't know what it is, but

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they say hands really, I don't
know, I should have looked this

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up, but that they told us like
hands really bother people

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sometimes.
And I, I think they made the

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argument like sometimes you see
like a face and it's like

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lifeless.
I don't know.

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I don't know like, but anyway.
You know, well, Lydia's all

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excited, and she has told us
probably since she was eight, I

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want to donate my body to
science when I die.

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And I'm like, please don't.
And she's like, I am going to

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and you're probably going to be
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I.
Want to talk to you about.

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That.
Yeah.

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And I was like, you know, some
of those bodies they just, like,

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put out like in a fake crime
scene, just like, see how long

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it takes for certain Beatles to
show up and stuff like, that's

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what you want.
And she's like, it won't matter

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to me because I'm gone.
True.

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But yeah.
That's great.

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Well, you know, when I think of
cadavers, I think of wisdom.

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I don't know about you, Michael,
but that's a wisdom decision.

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Are you going to do anything
about Assange?

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What are you going to do with
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You got to make that choice.
Yeah, that's right.

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So, well, this is the concluding
lesson.

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We've been in wisdom literature
long enough.

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Weight number six.
Let's go ahead and take it to

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the next level from the hearts
of the low country in South

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Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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Right, Wisdom books.
I don't The Sunday school I did

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was really brief overview, kind
of some review.

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And then when I tried to do what
my goal originally was, was to

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look at how do these three
wisdom books, maybe Wisdom

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Psalms 2 if you want to count
that, how they fit in with the

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larger context of Scripture.
Where do we see, you know, shout

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outs or these connections with
other Old Testament passages?

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Where do we see these wisdom
books in the New Testament

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'cause I think it is easy with
everything to like just tone in

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and you don't see the see the
big picture so.

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Do you have any stats on how
often they're quoted by other

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books?
Other wisdom books that.

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Would have been a great stat.
OK, but.

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Now do you want me to look it
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Right now, look it up.
Let's see what happens while

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you're looking it up.
I'll, I'll tell you this great

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quote that I came across by
Bruce Waldke, Old Testament

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scholar.
No, a lot of people don't

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necessarily love wisdom books
because they don't advance the

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narrative, the redemptive story.
It's not like we're going to the

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promised land.
We're getting out of Egypt where

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the prophets are coming, because
exile is here.

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It's kind of static.
We don't get a whole lot of

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progress in a meaningful way
that, you know, might be a

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criticism.
Someone will say, but Bruce

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Waldke, he summarizes the Psalm,
really Hebrew poetry, Psalms

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through Song of Solomon.
And he says instead of telling

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us about Yahweh's redemptive
acts, these books are a response

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to Yahweh's redemptive acts in
the form of praise, asking

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questions, making observations,
and even complaining.

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And I thought it was a good way
to think of the wisdom books.

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It's like we know we see what
God's done.

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How do we respond to it?
A lot of that is wisdom, whether

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it is observation or complaining
or praising.

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You found the stat.
I got the stat so Psalm you

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count it as a wisdom literature
or not and probably the probably

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the psalms that are quoted
probably more Messianic psalms.

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68 quotations from Psalms in the
New Testament.

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Proverbs quoted 8 times.
The other wisdom books, Job,

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Ecclesiastes, Son, O'salomon are
not directly quoted in the New

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Testament.
But there are some of the

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deutero canonical books like
Sirach.

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That's the sauce that you put on
there is not directly quoted in

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the Testament, but there are
some references or allusions to

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teaching the New Testament.
This is what?

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When you read about wisdom
literature, that Sirach,

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whatever book is that's talked
about, they're like Paul talks

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about this all the time.
He's very familiar.

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You know what I mean?
You've read them.

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I've never read that book, but
that's what people make the make

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the case for certain things.
That's interesting.

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So Jesus not out there quoting
all the Ecclesiastes what you're

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telling me?
No, no.

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But quoting Psalms, yeah.
But quoting a lot of a lot of

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the Psalms, we won't belabor
necessarily all of the review

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because we went through that.
Maybe we can jump into, well,

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I'll just give the high level
when we talk about proverbs,

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talk about patterns, talk about
principles that that that how

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life, you know, generally works.
Ecclesiastes framed as a

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paradox.
This Hebble, I think a good way

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to think of hebble.
It's either talking about the

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fleetingness of life, the
futility of life, or the

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frustrating paradoxes of life
where what could people prosper?

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Righteous people suffer.
That's tough.

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And then Job kind of looks at
something similar to

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Ecclesiastes, but it's really
calling us the trust God because

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he's got this providential
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He sees everything with when
what looks like a mess to us

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fits within his plan.
And I, I don't know these are in

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your notes, Michael, but I'll,
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because I think they give us a
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perspectives.
I'd really like this little the

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theme I did for my presentation,
but it's hard to read that, but

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like like, OK, OK, OK.
So I don't know if you want to

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read, we'll start with proverbs.
You want to read this and kind

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of shows those perspectives.
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light of the righteous rejoices,
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be put out.
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If, if you will, my watch is
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righteous.
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rejoicing, Good things happen,
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But opposite If you're wicked,
there's darkness your lamps put

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out, presumably bad.
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expect the world to be.
That's right.

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Yeah, Ecclesiastes, Mr. Mr.
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What's the Cohen tell us?
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seen everything.
There is a righteous man who

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perishes in his righteousness,
and there's a wicked man who

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prolongs his life in his evil
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And kind.
Of opposite of what you would

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want to happen.
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And it's like, not only is this
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dying in righteous, like doing
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And this evil person's doing
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they just do well, it's like
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well by it.
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and Job because I think it
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Proverbs really well.
It says how this is job 2117.

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How often is it that the lamp of
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their calamity comes upon them,
that God distributes pains in

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his anger?
I wrote down in my notes the way

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the NLT puts it, he basically,
I'm paraphrasing even NLA little

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bit, but he says he was saying
the light of the wicked never

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seems to go out.
Do they even have trouble?

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And it's almost like, man, he's
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idea in Proverbs and saying that
might be what it's supposed to

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happen.
But that's not my experience.

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No, that's that.

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That's good.
It's got three different

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perspectives.
I think it's good.

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And then I should send you this
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It's like it's, it's, I think
it's hilarious this I, I won't

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play it here, but maybe I'll
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you have to watch it.
It's this my brother, it's in

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he's in Peru with friends.
He doesn't know that this guy is

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proposing to his his
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just end up like walking on like
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here.
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their, their video of like their
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He's just like right in the
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know what's going on.
And I'm like, my brother is

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such, such a dumb guy and
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I'm like, it's always a good,
good way to make fun of your

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brother.
And my point was, let's know

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what's going on.
We we should know how things

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happen together because you
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Old Testament's totally divorced
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that.
Kind of thing someone should

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have been on brother watch like
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happens, someone's got to get
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I've seen the video, I've seen
the video where this woman was

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getting proposed to and her
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her on purpose and the cat's
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because we knew she would ruin
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the camera, the husband like
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hand over her mouth and just
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that, you know, the, the, the
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didn't have that.
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Sometimes you need that.
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So I'll show that because he's
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everyone's just going on
clapping and he's like, what?

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And he's like in the middle.
And that's like their video of

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their proposals.
Like he's like right in the

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middle.
Like he's literally in between

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the guy and the girl.
Should I put the?

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Should should I put it into our
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Should that'll be great.
So right now video of that.

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All right, and then we'll cut
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Yeah.
All right, so for sake of time,

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probably what I'll do is
significant into Sunday school,

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I started developing or looking
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connections in the Old
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spend there's you could look for
everything.

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It's like, you know, some of
these connections you can see

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everywhere.
Proverbs is different than books

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like Deuteronomy about the law,
but it's really not.

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They're very complementary,
where Deuteronomy 6 really

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sounds like a lot of these
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learning and these wisdom and
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And there's a lot of imagery
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Proverbs talks a lot about the
tree of life, interestingly

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enough, connecting.
So that's like an interesting

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like word study to do.
And then obviously looking ahead

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to Revelation, but we will focus
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And I didn't read this slide
ahead of me in in front of me

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and Michael right now, but Jesus
talks a lot in proverbs.

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Like 70% of what he says are
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Riddles not as a proverb, but
what he's saying is stylized as

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a proverb.
No, that's a great distinction

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where, yeah, he's not quoting
all the proverbs as you

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mentioned.
So you'd be, yeah, that, that's

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a good catch.
But he's talking in this kind of

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genre, so it's good to be
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He'll say things like be wise as
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doves.
He'll say it's easier for a

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camel to go through the eye of a
needle than for a rich person

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Enter the Kingdom of God.
You know, first will be alas,

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also be first a a million thinks
he's talking in these short

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pithy sayings.
So it's good to be aware of it.

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And I, I thought this was a
really good example of a

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proverb.
Not that.

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You listen to this proverb on
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It was in my daily list.
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So that's great.
Is it, is it the 26th?

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Are you ahead by a couple days?
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I I'm on this dwell and it's not
doing it necessarily by the

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date.
So Jill looked at me.

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She's like you're this is not
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I'm like, 'cause I'm doing a
dwell plan, It's not, it's not

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synced up to the date.
It's, it's OK.

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It's like.
Yeah, dwell.

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Dwell knows what's going on.
I brought up this proverb,

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Proverbs 26 four and five 'cause
I talked about it in the

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Proverbs class.
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contradictory proverb that says
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Not a fool.
According to his father, He lets

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you be like him yourself.
Very next verse answer a fool

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according to his folly, lest to
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And we talked about, you know,
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Part of wisdom is reading the
room, and it's context

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dependent, and there's a time.
I think this is perfect for

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parents because there are times
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Your children are fools.
You love them, they love you

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most of the time, but they're
fools for, you know, and some

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more than others.
And so you have to discern like,

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do there's a time when you're
like, I'm not going to get down

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in the mud and argue with you
and because I'm not going to get

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on that level, but I will
explain myself.

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I'll explain why.
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That's the end of the story.
That's all she wrote.

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We're not going to argue about
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I think that's kind of the two
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being.
That's really practical too,

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because you could over explain
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And guess what, in certain
moments you ain't you ain't

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tipping the scales.
And sometimes it's like, yeah,

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this is a good time to talk what
I like about this proverb.

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We could do this probably in
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But Jesus in Matthew 26 actually
like lives out both of these

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proverbs one after another.
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arrested.
He's taken to this mock trial by

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the Jews and they they get these
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against Jesus.
Verse 62 of chapter 26 says, and

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the high priest stood up and
said talking about the testimony

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of these false witnesses made.
Do you have an answer to make

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Jesus, What is it that these men
testify against you?

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But Jesus remains silent.
He's like these false

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testimonies.
I'm not going to engage there.

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There's no benefit here.
But right after that, verse 63

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keeps going and the high priest
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living God.
Tell us if you were the Christ,

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the son of God, and then Jesus
answers that because that's

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that's a pretty big claim.
He's probably, oh, this is

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something I should engage with.
You have said so, but I tell you

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from now on you will see the Son
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of power and coming on the
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So it's pretty cool.
It's like I'm not going to

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engage them, right?
I'm going to engage kind of

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teasing that out.
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And I think he does something
similar with Pilot when he's

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before Pilot.
Yeah, that's a good point.

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Too.
He doesn't answer and doesn't

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answer him.
Then he does answer him.

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Yeah.
And just seeing these

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connections, if you were to
look, you can take a guess at

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this Sermon on the Mount,
Matthew 5 through 7.

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A lot of people would say that's
written in wisdom literature

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with blessed is the blessed.
It's like we're seeing these

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themes and it's saying there's a
right way to go.

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But conversely, there's, you
know, bad way to go.

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If you look at Sermon on the
Mountain, you compare it with

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major themes and proverbs.
They both talk about a lot of

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the same things, the narrow
path, keeping commandments, how

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do you use your wealth and
material goods, God's wisdom in

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nature, sexual purity, guarding
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And they both call us to, you
know, let your light shine, be

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active.
Don't just be idle, but look to

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the Ant work these kind of
things calling you to do.

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But there there's a lot of
parallels just between the sword

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and the mount.
Like anger and murder should be

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on there too.
Right, right, and you could we

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could like you could really draw
even more so and it's just

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interesting that you know a lot
of these Jesus very.

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Practical.
Yeah, very practical.

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Yeah, that's good.
So that that was pretty good.

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I'm not going to develop this
another word study to do, but

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you can look places like
Ecclesiastes and read a lot

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about work and labor and toil
and dust, see some good

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parallels in Genesis 2 and three
and with the curse and all of

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that.
But I really spent most of my

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time looking ahead at some of
Paul's writings.

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We've kind of recently, I keep
saying that, but Romans 8 was

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kind of a long time ago.
From Romans 4, forever ago.

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Romans 8, yeah.
And if you look at the

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Septuagints, the Greek
translation of the Old

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Testament, and you look at the
Greek word for Hebel, and you

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look at that in the New
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handful of times that you use.
But one of those times is Romans

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8.
I'm not going to read the entire

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passage, but it's talking about,
you know, creation is groaning.

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It's under the bondage of
suffer.

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Bondage to corruption uses the
word.

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It's been subjected to futility.
That's the word for heaven.

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There's groaning pains of
childbirth.

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And in the same manner, we groan
inwardly, you know, waiting for

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our adoption, the redemption of
our bodies, where Paul kind of

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says, yeah, heavens, everywhere.
And even in creation we see it a

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lot.
I was thinking about, you know,

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if we had bantered on Elon Musk
and his, you know, it's like

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futility, futility,
ridiculousness, ridiculousness,

447
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,920
all the, the, you know, the
'cause I, you know, I'd share

448
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,920
with you off camera that I
thought it's probably ridiculous

449
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:06,000
that he sends an e-mail out on a
Saturday night that's it's

450
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,080
supposed to be responding to on
Monday with the five things

451
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560
you're supposed to do, you know?
Did suit you got this e-mail

452
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,280
correct?
I did get it.

453
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560
Was it from Elon Musk's?
No, no, it's from.

454
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,880
It's from HR at OPM dot.
Com maybe grab you like hey

455
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,480
Elon, I'm looking at Tesla like
you just like having a

456
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,080
conversation.
From the Office of Personnel

457
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,000
Management, which is like this
governing body over all federal

458
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,280
workers.
So I did get it.

459
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,080
And then, you know, as
ridiculous as the e-mail is, the

460
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,280
response to the e-mail I thought
was ridiculous.

461
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,520
Because if you can't name 5
things that you did in a week.

462
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,280
Now you were telling me you got
like 2 pretty easily, but the

463
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680
last?
Two times it got 2 easy, and I

464
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,680
was like, man, I've got to think
of three more now.

465
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,040
I think people think of federal
workers as kind of like this

466
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,520
monolithic thing.
Yeah, it's.

467
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080
It's I think for whatever
reason, it's the go to, to be

468
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600
like those, you know, government
employees.

469
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960
But we're not all the same.
Anyways, I just thought all the

470
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,440
responses like, OK, that's a
little bit ridiculous.

471
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,200
The response to the
ridiculousness was ridiculous.

472
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,280
You know, I was thinking of
this.

473
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040
So I was like, it's just vanity.
Vanity.

474
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,280
It's.
Just that you mentioned on

475
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,000
Sunday, you know, the updated
version, just even more that's

476
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,360
very, very updated.
You know, throw in and then Elon

477
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,280
Musk, Yeah, another time.
I don't think it's the exact

478
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,240
same word, but we see vanity
used a lot as First Corinthians

479
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,840
15 are really the word vain.
Paul's really arguing that

480
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
Christ hasn't been raised.
Everything is.

481
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,680
There is vanity everywhere.
It's like everything you're

482
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520
doing, you're in bad shape.
It like puts us right back

483
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,720
underneath the sun.
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good

484
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,320
point.
Yeah.

485
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,000
There's nothing outside of this
life, man.

486
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,840
Christians, it's not like and.
We're all you know, And it goes

487
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,480
to the point of the Ecclesiastes
he's making.

488
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,160
Because Paul says we are of most
men to be pitied because we're

489
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,160
not taking advantage of our
fellow people.

490
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,960
Like we could be in theory.
Like if this is all false, we

491
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,880
could be, in theory, living a
little bit better lives now

492
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,240
knowing like, doesn't matter if
I screw someone over or not,

493
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480
because what's the point?
Yeah, what's the point?

494
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,880
Like we're going through
Desiring God with our college

495
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,240
group and John Piper is reading
an interview by a monk or

496
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480
something.
And this Catholic looks

497
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,640
basically like, hey, you know,
if God's not real, if atheist

498
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,720
will be true, happy I live this
way.

499
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,520
I, you know, I did what was
right or whatever.

500
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,080
And John Piper's like, that's
not what Paul says.

501
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,960
Paul's like this was in vain.
Everything I do, the only reason

502
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,320
it's not in vain because it's in
the Lord and that Christ has

503
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,600
been risen where it's like
exactly what you're saying.

504
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,720
It's like, man, if it's not it,
even if you didn't live a total

505
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,160
life of debauchery, just living
a life of yourself, that's not

506
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,600
like, you know, you're not drunk
all the time and your life is

507
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,160
miserable.
That way you can like take

508
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,160
advantage of these things.
Yeah.

509
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,680
So that's, that's Ecclesiastes.
Some connections.

510
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,440
I pointed out going to Job and
Jesus and Job, we talked a lot

511
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,080
about this retribution
principle.

512
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,960
I think it's funny that, you
know, his disciples struggle

513
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,960
with this very thing.
John 9 says, and Jesus passed

514
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280
by, He saw a blind man from
birth and his disciples asked

515
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600
him, Rabbi, who sinned this man
or his parents, that he was born

516
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,640
blind.
And Jesus answered, wasn't it

517
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,920
this man's sinned or his
parents, but that the works of

518
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,400
God might be displayed in him.
And so I think it's just human

519
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,320
nature to be like this person
struggling financially, what do

520
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,840
they do?
Like you just jump to

521
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,560
conclusions which they may be
true but not necessarily no.

522
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,080
That's good.
That's really good.

523
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,400
And then this, this is always, I
think sometimes can be a little

524
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,080
bit puzzling.
This is kind of in the same vein

525
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,880
where a lot of times Jesus
doesn't talk about why someone

526
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,600
suffered, but moves it to the
cause.

527
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240
And John 9 it's, it's so that
the works of God might be

528
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,520
displayed also in this one that
this one will talk about, you

529
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,240
know, something's happened as a
warning.

530
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,760
Luke 13 there says, verse one,
there was some president at the

531
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560
very time who told Jesus about
the Galileans whose blood pilot

532
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,240
had mingled with their
sacrifices.

533
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,320
And Jesus answered them.
Do you think that these

534
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,640
Galileans were worse sinners
than all the other Galileans

535
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,960
because they suffered in this
way?

536
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,400
No, I tell you.
But unless you repent, you will

537
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600
all likewise perish.
Or there's 18 on whom the tower

538
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,840
of slom fell and killed them.
Do you think that they were

539
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,880
worse offenders than all the
others who lived in Jerusalem?

540
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,080
No, I tell you, but unless you
repent, you will all likewise

541
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,960
perish.
Verses 3 and five are like the

542
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,600
same.
It's basically saying it's not

543
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,240
necessary.
It's not really that these

544
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,640
people were so much worse than
you.

545
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,600
It's not that they deserve this
in a in a unique way, because

546
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,720
we're all going.
To limit this way, yeah.

547
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,080
So I like that Jesus kind of
hones in on this as well.

548
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800
And then when you're talking
about Job, you got to you got to

549
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,720
hit hit these these verses where
Job is struggling.

550
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,280
And really part of his, you
know, problem is he says in

551
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Chapter 9 that God's not a man
like me.

552
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,920
I can't answer him.
We can't take each other to

553
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,280
court.
And part of that is because

554
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,320
there is no mediator between us
to lay his hand on both of us.

555
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,360
That's you know, Job just found
himself there.

556
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,000
There.
There's there's no intercessor

557
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,560
here.
You.

558
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Know that can that can.
That be there and then few

559
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080
chapters later he says these
words like I know that my

560
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Redeemer lives.
And so we see some of this

561
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,400
foreshadowing to Christ.
That's great.

562
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,680
In in job, so some some New
Testament connections.

563
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,120
That's like, oh, that's cool.
It's there even though, like

564
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,400
you're saying, there's not.
Like it's not like Jesus is

565
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,120
quoting Job at length or Paul.
Right, right.

566
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,640
No, but it still shows up.
Yeah, the ideas and and the the

567
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,240
thoughts.
If I were to ask you what are

568
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,920
the you're thinking of pre
eminence of Christ or or what

569
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,320
are what what would you say were
to be like go to text of

570
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,360
thinking about Christ and
divinity and all these these

571
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:46,000
like go to texts.
Well, it's hard to say text, but

572
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,360
really all of Hebrews is written
to.

573
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,800
Compare Hebrews.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

574
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,920
So I mean like the angels.
Christ is better than angels.

575
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Christ is better than Moses.
Christ is better than the law.

576
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,400
Christ is better than the little
little Levitical priesthood.

577
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720
Christ is better than the
sacrifices.

578
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:08,000
And then you know, Ephesians 1
Colossians, one those are really

579
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,960
go to.
I'm sure there's there's other

580
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,200
ones out there.
You nailed so the three that I

581
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,320
went to towards the end.
We'll see how much we got a few

582
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520
minutes here.
But the way I closed it out is I

583
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800
looked at, you know, what
Scripture say when it comes to

584
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Christ as wisdom, looked at some
prophecy in the Old Testament

585
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,120
and then looked at Christ's
wisdom and his humanity and his

586
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,440
divinity.
So this is a little

587
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,760
foreshadowing, I guess I
shouldn't say it yet, but went

588
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,720
to places like Colossians one.
I always think, I always think

589
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,160
of John 1, Colossians 1 and
Hebrews one, just because

590
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,320
they're all ones I should have.
Oh yeah, yeah.

591
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,640
I should have of these John one,
clearly John 1.

592
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,640
I left that one out, yeah.
Yeah, but we'll, I forgot.

593
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,640
We'll get there later.
I tried to make the same

594
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,720
comparison that Clayton make
between Adam and Solomon.

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,360
I was reading this guy Richard
Belcher, and he was like, if

596
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,160
you're a Jew reading about
Solomon, just even like the

597
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,600
verbiage and the words point
back to Adam.

598
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,000
You know Solomon is anointed at
a river, Guihon that was right

599
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,920
there in Eden, different river,
same name.

600
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Adam was called to keep the
garden.

601
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Solomon's got the same Hebrew
with the keep the charge of the

602
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,240
Lord.
Adam named all the animals,

603
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,440
Solomon very specifically.
The other thing, it's important

604
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600
that his wisdom isn't just
political or judgements, but

605
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,960
it's about all these different
trees and all these animals and

606
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,040
reptiles and fish and birds.
It's like, oh, yeah, that's

607
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,080
interesting that his wisdom was
so broad.

608
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440
And that's why, in part, people
of all nations came to hear him,

609
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,280
to hear some wisdom about
animals, you know, So he's

610
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760
drawing his parallels.
There's some non canonical

611
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,560
stories about Solomon being able
to find a the real flower

612
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,040
amongst amongst the fake flowers
by letting go of bee and the bee

613
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,040
goes to the real flower.
That would have been that's like

614
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
one of those party tricks that's
pretty amazing where you're

615
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,520
like, oh, and this is the real
one.

616
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,520
But that that's pretty
fascinating because sometimes I

617
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,520
think of Solomon just like, you
know, doing the I'm going to cut

618
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,360
your baby in half trick, which
is pretty wise.

619
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,040
But I don't think of him as like
being like this is a hyssop tree

620
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
and or I don't just knowing all
of creation so well.

621
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,200
And then, you know, they're both
charged with obedience, reward,

622
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280
disobedience, consequence, and
we know how the story goes.

623
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,520
They they both fail but looking
at scripture I think.

624
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Christ is the better Adam and
the better Solomon.

625
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,800
And then yes, yeah, that's
that's that's what I went with

626
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,280
it.
The connection.

627
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,400
That's great.
If we look at Isaiah 11, I'll

628
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,560
just read a couple of these
verses.

629
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
I like the words that describe
the Messiah.

630
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640
It talks about this person that
the Spirit of the Lord shall

631
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
rest on him.
It says the spirit of wisdom and

632
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,200
understanding, the spirit of
counsel and Mike, the spirit of

633
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
knowledge and the fear of the
Lord and his delight shall be

634
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
the fear of the Lord and you
just keep reading and it's like

635
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600
this Messiah is going to have
wisdom, understanding, counsel,

636
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,720
knowledge, fear of the Lord.
It's all like wrapped up with

637
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,000
this kind of wisdom language and
what's going to rule the day is

638
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,040
righteousness versus wickedness
looked at Christ and his

639
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,400
humanity.
Luke two kind of very, very

640
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,440
similar to Proverbs where
Proverbs 3 says, my son, don't

641
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
predict my teaching.
Let your heart keep my

642
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,200
commandments.
And if you do that you will find

643
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,560
favor and good success in the
sight of God and man.

644
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Luke 2 says things like Jesus
increase in wisdom and stature

645
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,520
and he found favor with God and
man.

646
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,600
And so you're like, okay, we're,
we're, we're figuring this out.

647
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,400
Jesus said that I'm greater than
something greater than Solomon

648
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
is here.
People heard him and said, you

649
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040
know, where did this man get
this wisdom that, you know,

650
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800
people saw that he was more than
just a, a mirror mirror man.

651
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,200
And then we get I didn't even
put Hebrews one on here because

652
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480
I just, it was just so much.
Text Too much, too much Hebrews.

653
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Yeah, 'cause it's it's I could
hope.

654
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520
I should just put, yeah, I
should put Hebrews, like see the

655
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,960
whole whole book of Hebrews.
But what's so good about this is

656
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,400
really these passages.
They connect a lot of Christ

657
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,640
with creation or creator and we
see wisdom proverbs 8 Jobs 28

658
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800
all it's like so wrapped up
together.

659
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,720
Yeah.
And I think, I know, I think

660
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,240
both Colossians and Ephesians
have some phrase that say

661
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360
something like everything is
summed up in him.

662
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
I think clashes says he holds
all things together and

663
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,400
Ephesians says everything is
summed up in him and it would be

664
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240
put as a footstool.
I'd have to go back to see which

665
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360
ones which for sure I could.
Have you're right on with

666
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Colossians.
I got it here.

667
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
It says all things hold in him.
All things hold together pretty

668
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,920
great.
Hebrews, one would say, like he

669
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320
had pulled the universe by the
word of his power.

670
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240
You one of Asians.
And then, you know, we talked

671
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
about John 1 before.
I mean, it just says, you know,

672
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,800
all things were made through.
It doesn't talk as much about

673
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,360
maybe sustaining, but it talks
about life and light.

674
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,040
And I just love how part of that
wisdom is just clearly creator

675
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280
where you see that just spelled
out.

676
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,680
And then the place where I
landed was First Corinthians

677
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,280
one.
There's a lot of text, but you

678
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,400
know, Paul's going to great
lengths.

679
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,760
This be like foolishness, you
know, wisdom of man, wisdom of

680
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,760
God, you know, compare and
contrast.

681
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,440
And his point is at the end,
like the one who boasts boasting

682
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240
the Lord.
You can't be like I figured out

683
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,160
I was smarter, I was stronger,
whatever.

684
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000
Pretty pretty good stuff.
Oh, that's all good.

685
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,840
That's really good.
Wisdom books and then so.

686
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,880
You're saying that Solomon is no
longer the wisest man?

687
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Oh, yeah, that.
There you go.

688
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.

689
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,840
So someone says, who's the
wisest man?

690
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cries according to his human

691
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,320
nature.
There you have to like make

692
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:26,880
that.
There you go.

693
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that that that's

694
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880
good.
And I ended with I stole this

695
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,880
from John Piper.
I should send you this picture,

696
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,520
too.
He was preferencing.

697
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,240
And so it's going to be Michael,
Zach, Greg, John, right?

698
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
I mean.
Mug's out of date.

699
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040
He looks at this.
I don't know.

700
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,920
I found it in a magazine or
something, this Nature Valley

701
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,880
ad.
And it's like you could find a

702
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,560
million of these ads, but the
tag line in it is you've never

703
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,040
felt more alive.
You've never felt more

704
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000
insignificant.
And it's got like, you can

705
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,240
barely see it, but two guys on
top of like this mountain

706
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160
overlooking.
And it's like one of those

707
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,520
things that everyone knows, like
you're faced with creation and

708
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,000
it's like, man, you just feel so
insignificant.

709
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,240
And people like, they search
that people like love to surf or

710
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,200
be on the ocean or this, this,
this universal thing.

711
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280
People don't always see the
right answer, but it's like,

712
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240
man, that just points to all
this wisdom.

713
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,040
It's like, how can you
understand the Grand Canyon?

714
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,560
It's like, it's like beautiful
in a way that you can't, I don't

715
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,040
know, put words to it.
I, I've, I experienced the most

716
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,320
I've ever experienced that we
were at a planetarium.

717
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,920
OK, yeah.
And it wasn't maybe the person

718
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,120
talking was a believer, but it
wasn't a faith-based

719
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440
planetarium.
And we were on a field trip and

720
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,160
it was at the space camp in
Alabama.

721
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Oh yeah, Huntsville.
Yeah, Huntsville.

722
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,200
And like she just like she was,
she's just going through the our

723
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,280
solar system and like zoomed
out, zoomed out, zoomed out just

724
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,720
and it was just like crazy.
Zoomed in, zoomed in, zoomed in

725
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,040
and it was.
It was just like all of creation

726
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,199
on display and I'm sitting there
weeping.

727
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
I'm just.
Crying, I'm like.

728
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,320
I have a.
Chaperone there with these other

729
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000
people from Northwood and
they're like, why is Mr. Mott

730
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,080
crying?
But it was like, it was just

731
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,800
like that.
It's like never more alive,

732
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520
never more insignificant in
comparison to what God has

733
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,360
created, you know, and what he's
done.

734
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
These people go chasing that and
I don't know what the, I don't

735
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,360
know what the status, but you
hear that kind of thing from

736
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,159
like, like, similar to what
you're saying, astronauts like

737
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,280
when they like are looking at
the Earth and it is like, it's

738
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,080
just like some this thing that
whether you know the right

739
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,000
answer, you know, something is
like, you know, out there.

740
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,800
And you see all these other
religions, like people a lot of

741
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000
times, like they don't get it
right by any means, but it's

742
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,440
like, you can tell they're like,
they're like, Oh, it's like in

743
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
the universe or it's like
they're like, there's, they know

744
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,880
there's something bigger out
there and they're missing it,

745
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,080
But it's, it's, it's something
you, you really see.

746
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680
And so that to me, you know, can
making that connection with

747
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,000
creator that that's a big part
of wisdom.

748
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640
And then lastly, just want to
talk about these wisdom books.

749
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,440
They're very different, but they
all teach us how to live life.

750
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Well.
They all talk about the fear of

751
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,680
the Lord.
They show us, you know, this is

752
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,640
how the world should work, but
things always happen that way.

753
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,560
And part of that is we don't see
the big picture anyway.

754
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,640
We can see a slice of it.
And so whether we think life is

755
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,560
fair or not fair, we're called
to live a certain way and do

756
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,000
certain things in response to
how life, you know, how whatever

757
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,000
hand where we are dealt.
And that's, that's the good part

758
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,800
about wisdom literature.
It does, it does exactly what

759
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,520
what we talked about just
teaches you how to live

760
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,760
regardless of of anything.
So what's next?

761
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,040
What is next about Yeah, because
we've had this series.

762
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:03,040
I don't know, maybe we talked
about maybe having Jonathan

763
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,480
White back on WE.
Should do it.

764
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Should do it.
Maybe he can talk.

765
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,640
I have some questions about some
current political things.

766
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Let me get his thoughts on that
and then maybe he can talk to us

767
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,400
about social media.
That'd be great.

768
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,680
That was pretty good, I thought.
I thought it was great what he

769
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,880
shared.
So maybe, maybe.

770
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,760
We made no promises, but maybe I
think we should.

771
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,400
We should get them on the books.
Yeah, just heard a podcast from

772
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Clay.
Oh yeah, I did not.

773
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Listen to this.
Yeah.

774
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,280
Melchizedek.
Yeah.

775
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,960
How was that?
It was really good.

776
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Did you did you have a chance to
listen?

777
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,080
I have.
Not listened to it.

778
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Yeah, I need to make it.
There are some very compelling

779
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,280
arguments made.
So I used to believe Methuselah

780
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
was a Christophany because I
just thought it was cool when I

781
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,000
was younger.
And then I was like, well,

782
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,760
probably is there enough
evidence to say that?

783
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,800
But then, you know, this podcast
made some compelling arguments.

784
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,560
I thought for Methuselah, not
Methuselah Melchizedek to be a

785
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,440
Christophany.
And then also some compelling

786
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,600
arguments that Michael the
Archangel is a Christophany is

787
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,960
the Angel of the Lord.
Oh wow, there are some.

788
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,240
Traditions that think that way.
You know, yeah.

789
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,360
And the point was made like,
yeah, the Jehovah's Witnesses

790
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,280
think that Jesus is Michael, but
they are lowering Jesus down to

791
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280
a mere creator.
And we're not doing that.

792
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,160
We're just saying Michael is
another name of Jesus.

793
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Like he's still the uncreated
creator.

794
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560
So don't just because Jehovah's
Witness believe that don't yet.

795
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Oh yeah.
So maybe those are some topics

796
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,080
we could.
Yeah, in the future, play needs

797
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,200
to get back on.
This will be good.

798
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Maybe some children's songs?
Hey, there you go.

799
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,280
Something to look forward to.
Yeah, Yeah, we got some good

800
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,080
things in the works.
Yeah, I like it.

801
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,160
So stay tuned.
I love it.

802
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,200
Stay tuned.
That's our take.

803
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,120
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804
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,440
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805
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