Abraham | From Abraham to Christ: The Covenant That Shaped Redemption

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Michael, do you know my Saturday
morning rituals?

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I believe you go play that.
That's.

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What I was taught, Yeah, you
nailed it.

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What sport?
He's inviting it accurately.

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But he doesn't know the name.
Off the top of his head, I want

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to say frisbee golf.
It's not frisbee golf.

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It's close.
Wow, we should just sit here.

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Great, sit here until I can get
it.

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Yeah, you go play it's.
Really good.

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It's like supreme ultimate
ultimate.

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Yeah, Yeah, great.
Ultimate Frisbee.

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You know, it's only recently
that it can be called ultimate

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Frisbee.
Like like the actual league I

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think Frisbee.
Oh, Frisbee is a trademark name.

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Exactly, I think now they got it
or it became unprotected or

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something.
So now it's ultimate frisbee

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like, but used to just be
ultimate.

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Ultimate.
Yeah, it's like you.

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It was like the professional
level where.

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It was like it was implied that
what it was.

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Yeah.
You just said ultimate.

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There are a lot of names.
Maybe this is the banter.

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I don't know where you're going.
OK, OK.

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Yeah, Yeah.
But there are a lot of names

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that were trademarked.
Oh, yeah.

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And then went into unprotected
aspirin.

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Aspirin.
Yeah, dumpster.

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It was trademarked.
Google of course is, but you use

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it, you know.
Hey I googled something so

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probably Coke in the South.
Probably, probably.

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So that's great.
That's a great direction.

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I was going to say I got into
this is like it was a great

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weather for Frisby, who thought
that like August, it's like 80.

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It's like, wonderful.
You know, this, again, don't

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know where you're going with
this, this banter, but I thought

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about discussing as a banter.
Like if someone had said that

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someone is altering our climate,
I would say, yeah, probably

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because it has been such a weird
summer.

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It's crazy rain, crazy rain,
crazy rain.

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Lightning.
OK.

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Were you there when we were
talking about lightning?

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Two, maybe two nights ago,
probably Tuesday night, I was

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outside.
I saw the whole light, the whole

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sky light up as if it were
daytime.

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Like I could see everything.
I was like, holy moly, and but

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no lightning.
And what I was doing was we had

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scraps.
They're like fat and stuff.

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We put those up the edge of our
tree line.

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There's some animal that eats
that don't want to put those

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down the drain and stuff.
And I was headed towards the

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wood line.
Oh boy.

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And all of a sudden the craziest
lightning sound.

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It wasn't just like loud
lightning sound.

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Cause we've all heard that, that
instant crack loud lightning.

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And we, we know what it's like.
This sounded like a cosmic sized

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deep oil fryer lightning going
off like bubbles of lightning.

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And it was so the weirdest
noises from my sky I've heard in

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my life.
And it probably is totally

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derailing your that's.
Fine, this is good, this is

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great 'cause it has been weird.
Like even looking at the sky,

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I've seen so many more, like
even weird lightning strikes,

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like just horizontal lightning,
like not just striking down,

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just going across the sky.
It's weird.

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Immediately after this lightning
I'm not done with.

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My story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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People on our community Facebook
group all were like, what was

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that?
What's going on?

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What's going on?
I kind of described the

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phenomenon to chat, like what
was this?

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And it says that it was likely a
positive lightning strike, which

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I guess most of them are
negative.

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I don't.
I'm trying to think through what

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that means because I know for
positive that means I got to

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have alpha particles instead of
electrons going on.

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But it said that those are the
types of like if it was a

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positive lightning strike,
that's the type that can trigger

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a Sprite.
Have you ever heard of what a

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Sprite is?
I'm more of a coat guy, but

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yeah, that's right, yeah.
So Sprite is this electrical

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discharge in the upper upper
upper atmospheres.

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Like you couldn't even see it
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Like, but we have like the
International Space Station has

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caught them like they look
almost like an upside down golf

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tee and they're like pink and
they're like just like they kind

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of come at a point and it's like
could could have triggered one

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of those So crazy.
It was the craziest.

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All right, so.
No, honestly, it has been super

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weird weather.
It's like it was super hot.

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We've been having lightning and
storms like all the time.

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This feels really nice.
So got I was checking my my

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watch six got over 6 miles
ultimate frisbee like it when it

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was when it was like 95.
I was getting like 3 miles like

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I was like it just zaps you.
Today, Like I'm not running

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today.
Oh.

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Man it just like instantly you
just like have no energy.

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It was like today could run
forever collided with a guy got

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a like a knot on the old head my
and it hurt like I was like

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dizzy.
So that's why you're kind of

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little bit not with it on some
of the podcasts, like kind of

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see you just kind of daze in
this this this eye pupil's a

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little bit more.
Maybe so.

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I don't think I had a
concussion, but I I was like

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dizzy for like not a long time,
like 15 seconds, then it went

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away.
And what?

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We call a bell ringer in
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My back of my head hit.
I collided with a guy hit him

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like right here.
He got like a gash on his right

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of his eye gash here.
Not it wasn't too bad.

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I mean we'll it started hit.
I mean, I think it's going to

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swell up pretty bad, but it
wasn't like profuse blood or

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anything.
Just a little bit of blood, but

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man.
No fisticuffs.

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You know, I, I laid on the
smack.

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I was like, hey, don't get near
me again, OK?

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No, I'm just kidding.
I was total.

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The sad thing was we were on the
same team.

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We were making a defensive play
and the other team caught it

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'cause we like ran into each
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We both missed the disc, hit
each other.

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Oh, man.
So I, I was gonna, we just be,

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we don't think I was gonna say
sports injuries, you know, have

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you had any with all of your
football and stuff?

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Any significant sports injuries.
No significant sports injuries,

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which was crazy.
I, I think, you know, I think

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I've told my story about playing
football and then dropping out

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and then playing later.
And maybe I missed that time

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when the men's joints loosen up
and you get a lot of those

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entries.
In the ninth grade, we were

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lifting weights after school.
This is probably January.

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Basketball season is, is afoot.
And me and this other football

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player like, let's go lift
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The guy that went to my church
and someone had stacked you ever

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seen those plates are like the
size of like a 45 LB plate?

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OK, but they're like 5 lbs.
Oh yeah, And there are four

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floor exercises just to get the
bar off.

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Yeah, someone had stacked like
four of those on each side to

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make it look cool.
On a bench like I'm more than a

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ton.
And I, I pulled all of them off

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and one of them fell and hit my
4th metatarsal and it was just

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sore.
Just sore, kind of naggy sore.

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I was in offseason and so maybe
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season, 'cause I wasn't
offseason, so basketball had

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must have been over.
I remember doing, did you ever

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do the dot drills?
Like it's like, you know, I do a

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lot.
But I know them.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was doing those and like

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one of those is like where
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you're doing a pattern.
I was like, man, my foot is

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really sore.
Played basketball maybe a week

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later, jumped up, came down, and
you got the ending break of that

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4th metatarsal.
So but it it came back together,

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got an X-ray.
Like, yeah, I can see it's

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broken.
But really, we do not recommend

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a cast like it back.
You know, this was in back in

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those days.
Yeah, this is in the early 90s.

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He's like back in the 70s.
We casted everything.

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But we.
You don't need to cast this, but

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you can't do anything that puts
extra pressure on there.

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So this is, yeah, this was after
basketball season.

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So I had to tell my coaches no
shot put, no discus.

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I can't bench.
I mean, I can't squat.

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I can't do dead bis, I can't do
power cleans.

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So that was my really only, but
nothing from like actually

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getting hit or anything.
It's from a weight falling on my

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foot.
Man, you got the 4th metatarsal?

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I did fracture my 5th metacarpal
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A classic.
They call it a boxer fracture.

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A lot of people get it from like
banging their fist down, which I

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wasn't doing.
It was in a basketball game.

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It was a very unusual way to
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Not get into my senior year
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I was bummed.
Soccer 8th grade playing.

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I went to a small school like
Northside, so as a 8th grader I

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was playing on the varsity team
because our varsity was not very

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good.
It's actually it was great for

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me.
Can you, I don't know if you can

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imagine how my weight and my
height in 8th grade.

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I can't because even Northwood,
as big as it is, we did have an

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eighth grader playing on the
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He was just it.
Does that I was I wouldn't I was

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I would say like obviously I was
I was I was great little

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starting to get these little
shots.

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I wasn't like kicking from half
field or anything but I was like

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sneaking in there and someone
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Someone came down on my left.
Videla fractured that's it was

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going to Westminster
Presbyterian School, Baptist

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Presbyterian School.
That was like our biggest rival.

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It was great.
And then I broke, broke a nose,

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broke, broke my nose playing
basketball.

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I got elbowed in the face.
That was not good.

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I I tried to wear one of those
masks to play basketball and

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that was not working.
Well, there was who was there

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was some professional on the
Bulls or something that wore

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that?
There there from time to time,

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like RIP Hamilton wore all the
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He played for the Pistons but
then later for the Bulls.

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There was like Kyrie wore, Kobe
wore it for a little bit some

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players, but RIP Hamilton, look,
that guy, Richard Hamilton, he

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wore it like all the time.
Once I think he, you know,

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messed up his nose one time.
I think those were my biggest

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injuries.
But yeah, you know, weather,

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lightning, injuries, I.
Probably told this story too,

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but I had caused injuries.
I got called out in this.

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It wasn't exactly Oklahoma, but
it was something similar to

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that.
I was an eighth grader.

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In this 9th grader I was like I
won big mod.

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Oh, he did, I got.
Him and it hurt his back for he

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didn't play football after that.
Like he walked and stuff, but

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he's just like his parents are.
Probably like yeah, you don't

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need, you're done with.
With with this.

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Back entry, I will say, I know
we're like running along on this

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bench, but one, this is great
'cause this just gives you

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insight to my pettiness and, you
know, passive aggressiveness.

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Basketball game, basketball
practice.

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Loved my JV coach.
He was great.

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We all love I did because
varsity coach did not get along

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with him as well.
Great guy, great guy just did

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not like resonate with like my
class as much.

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And I, we were like walking
through different plays.

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We had like a huge playbook,
which I was like, why aren't we

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just scrimmaging?
Why are we going through so many

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like formal plays in basketball?
And I made a pass during like a

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scrimmage, like we were just
walking through it.

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Someone picked it off and he was
like, hail can't be throwing

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those Sissy passes.
And I was like, we're just like

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learning this play.
Next pass I made was like the

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hardest chess pass I ever made.
Threw it to my it went through

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his hands, hit another guy in
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And he was like.
Hey, wasn't a Sissy pass.

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It was great.
I did not get along with my

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junior high basketball coach.
Turns out he was addicted to

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pain meds literally doctor
Jekyll Mr. Hyde like really cool

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some days other days just would
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and yell at us and like cut us
down like turns out you were

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like on with with withdrawal
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Oxy just takes the edge off, you
know what I mean?

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After a long day of teaching,
time to coach.

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Oh man, that guy.
Well, from Oxy to Abraham, we're

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talking covenants.
Get get excited Abraham.

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This is our 4th episode in this
series.

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Let's go ahead and take it to
the next level from the hearts

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of the low country in South
Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
All right, so we kind of, we

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read.
Through.

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That's right, yeah.
In chapter 12, but I thought

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maybe we should have an episode
and I think we've covered the

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covenants maybe as a series
before, but maybe just do a

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quick look at the Abrahamic
covenant and then we'll kind of

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cover, you know, if we're kind
of going through the life of

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Abraham future times, we'll kind
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this covenant gets repeated
multiple times and there's like

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some slight variations in it as
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Are you saying the Abraham
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I would say the Abrahamic
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covenant, and I would say that
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the new covenant.
You know, it's out of, you know,

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the new covenant finds its roots
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So in one sense, we only have
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Abrahamic covenant.
Abrahamic Covenant foreshadows

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the Messiah who's coming.
It's like all these covenants

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just get like narrower or
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Got Abraham and then it like
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OK, we start getting a nation
with Moses and then like with

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David, OK, now it's it's like
you start getting like these

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clues and these hints and it's
Oh, it's so great.

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Like looking back on it.
I I know it probably well, it,

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it probably was great for them
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But it's like being able to see
like all of this, like unravel

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or come together is a better way
to put it than unravel.

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Everything just really come to
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So because really I like this
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Everything from Israel's history
to the arrival of Christ and the

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inclusion of the Gentiles hinges
on this promise and all that's

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like baked in there and in more
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But that's great that it's there
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It is from the beginning and and
you wonder how how the Jews

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missed it, How you know?
Yeah, yeah, 'cause it's there,

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yeah.
It's there and and the first

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time that Jesus there was an
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because he's mentioning the
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to be welcomed in.
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That's what that's what they got
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He was.
He was using Scripture.

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Yeah, I think he.
Was he?

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Yeah, he was like he was using
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That.
That, that, yeah, that that is

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insane.
All right, so we kind of read

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through these verses already,
Genesis 12, but we'll let's

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quickly review them.
Go forth from your country and

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from your relatives and from
your father's house to land.

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I will show you, now here's
where we get the covenant, and I

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will make you a great nation.
I will bless you.

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I will make your name great, and
so you shall be a blessing.

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I will bless those who bless
you, and the one who curses you

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I will curse.
And in you all the families of

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the earth will be blessed.
Man, lot, lot of good stuff in

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there, a lot of blessing
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all these things.
Acts 7 Stephen preaching

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preaching this this sermon is
mentioning Abraham, Abraham and

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he says starting in verse 2 of
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And he said, hear me, brethren
and fathers, the God of glory

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appeared to our father Abraham
when he was in Mesopotamia

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before he lived in Haran and
said to him, leave your country

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and your relatives and come into
the land that I will show you.

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Then he left the land of the
Chaldeans and settled in Haran.

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From there, after his father
died, God had him move to this

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country in which you are now
living all.

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Right.
So we see this repeat of this

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calling out of Abraham and the
specific and and really there

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are some covenants that precede
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OK.
Yeah, that's right.

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Depends on how you chop them up.
You might say the Edenic

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covenant.
There you go.

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The adenic covenant boom, you
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but really those were to
everyone alive on the earth at

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that point in time.
They there was not nation

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specific and as you said, this
is going to get very so now I

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have a nation, then we're going
to get to David and his line and

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then it's going to get to Jesus.
But it's almost like an

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hourglass because it's through
Jesus now.

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Bronze back.
Out bronze, back out to the

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whole earth.
So specific things we see in

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this.
We see a land promise,

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nationhood.
Yeah.

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Blessings that he will be a
blessing that he'll his name

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will be great, and all the
people will be blessed through

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him.
And that, that is good.

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All those things are very, very
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And God kind of comes through
with all these areas.

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It's not like you have to like
pigeonhole and say, this is how

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we read it.
It's like, man, all of these

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things so great.
Of utmost importance is God is

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saying, hey, this is what I'm
doing.

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It's not saying, hey, work
really hard.

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Abraham, you got this.
It's like unilateral initially

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making it happen.
Yeah.

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And when I taught this one time,
there was a person in the class

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that said, if this is
unconditional, why does it skip

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over Ishmael and Esau?
And I was so puzzled because it

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was such a weird take.
I was like trying to think about

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how to answer it, but I think I
came up with the right answer.

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It was just like such a left
field question.

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I was like, well, the
unconditionality is that through

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Abraham's descendants, he's
bringing about this promise.

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Oh, 'cause he's saying like,
hey, that that was blessings for

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everybody, right?
OK, Gotcha.

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I was like, yeah, but it's
honestly yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, anyway, yeah, but his
through his ascendance, he's

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going to bless all the nations.
Like that's not going to stop.

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So you want to be a bad actor,
You want to be a bad actor,

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that's fine.
You you can step yourself

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outside the of the the goodness
here.

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But through this is it's going
to still happen.

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And you look at Ishmael was
blessed.

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No, that I was gonna say that
too.

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It's like he was prolific with
his.

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I mean, obviously you know his
line.

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He had a great nation.
He saw became a great nation.

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That's.
Right.

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Yeah, eventually they were cut
off because of how they treated

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Israel.
But yeah, All right.

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So we do get a little smidgen of
this repeated in Genesis 13.

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We didn't do we didn't spend a
lot of time on Genesis 13, but

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but after they split apart, God
tells this in verse 14.

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He says the Lord said to Abram
after Lot had separated from

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him.
Now lift up your eyes and look

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from the place where you are
northward, southward, eastward,

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and westward, for all the land
you see.

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I will give it to you and your
descendants forever.

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I will make your descendants as
the dust of the earth, so that

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if anyone can number the dust of
the earth, then your descendants

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can be numbered.
Arise, walk about the land

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through its length and breadth,
for I will give it to you.

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I love it.
There's like this tangible

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reality to it where he's like,
hey, just look as far as you can

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every which way.
Walk it up and down.

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This, I, I'm giving this to you
and we mentioned this before.

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He's been walking through some
different, you know, city states

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along the way and stuff.
He's like, you know, it's like

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there's all these people.
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And then, and so you mentioned
the Mosaic covenant.

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Throughout the Mosaic covenant
there are always these, there

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are all these if thens, if you
obey me this, but if you disobey

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me this.
And if you there's no ifs here

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like so we would say this is an
unconditional covenant that's

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going to be backed up by our
next section in Genesis 15.

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I don't know if you want.
Do you have anything else to say

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about?
No, I think I think that's

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great.
I will jump in at verse 18 of

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chapter 15.
On that day the Lord made a

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covenant with Abram saying to
your descendants, I have given

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this land from the river of
Egypt as far as the great river,

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the river Euphrates, the Kinite
and the Kinozite and the

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Cabinite and the Hittite and the
Perizzite and the Raphaim and

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the Amorite and the Canaanite
and the Gurdushite and the

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Jebusite.
Got all the all the sites in

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there.
What's interesting here is the

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river of Egypt.
Yeah.

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And the river Euphrates.
That's that's pretty large.

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That's.
Huge.

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Now there is debate about what
is the river of Egypt.

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Some people are like, oh, it's
not the Nile, it's this other

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river.
But you know, even it was the

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other river, it's big.
But if it's the Nile, that's a

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huge swath of land.
And and this is different too,

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but it's interesting.
I don't know everything on top

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of my head, but in like, like
when you read Joshua, like the

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land they're supposed to take
and divvy up doesn't really it

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it doesn't it doesn't match up
exactly what they do.

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It's supposed to be actually a
little bit bigger.

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You know, it's interesting
where, you know, maybe they

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don't.
Not realize now we're in, you

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know, they didn't come through
with different things down down

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the road.
But what's important about this,

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I think is that it is like like
before we were saying it's like

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a real place.
It's like it's defined.

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Yeah, and I want to pull up
Genesis 15 because that passage

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doesn't have everything.
So if you read through, let's

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just find this.
Oh.

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Yeah.
Yeah, so God tells Abraham to

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get all these animals.
Oh yeah.

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Cut them in half.
And this was a way of making a

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contract back then.
And so like you and I might sign

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a paper and it gets notarized
and that's a contract here.

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They would get some animals, cut
them in half, and then two

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people walk down the middle of
the animals and basically

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they're saying, hey, if I don't
keep my side of the bargain, let

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me be done as these animals just
cut in half.

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I love that picture because it
it.

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Maybe you know, that's why
things aren't so binding today.

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Just signing your signature, who
cares?

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But it says in verse 12 Now when
the sun was going down, a deep

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sleep fell upon Abram, and
behold, terror and great

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darkness fell upon them.
God said to Abram, Know for

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certain that your descendants
will be strangers in a land that

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is not theirs, where they will
be enslaved and oppressed 400

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years.
But I will also judge the nation

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whom they serve.
And afterward they will come out

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with many possessions.
As for you, you shall go to your

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father's in peace.
You will be buried at a good old

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age.
Then the 4th generation, they

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will return here, for the
iniquity of the Amorite is not

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yet complete.
It came about when the sun had

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set, that it was very dark, and
behold, there appeared a smoking

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oven and a flaming torch which
passed between these pieces of

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animals.
And so and then with the work,

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the verses that you just read.
So what we have here is God, or

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at least the manifestation of
God, walking through and making

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this covenant with Himself.
Yeah, Abraham also is

451
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,960
significant.
Yeah, Abraham was put to sleep,

452
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,120
put, you know, some, some type
of trance where he can't

453
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,280
participate.
And God's like I, I'm doing this

454
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,960
myself.
You're not going to be able to

455
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,600
keep it.
I'm going to keep it.

456
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,400
I'm I'm going to hold myself to
this covenant.

457
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,360
And that's so good.
It reminds me of Hebrews where,

458
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,640
you know, God swears by, you
can't swear by a great neighbor

459
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,880
to God.
It's like, you know, he's going

460
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,520
to pat pass through these pieces
alone.

461
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,320
Yeah, that is.
And I love everything about it.

462
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,480
It's like this dreadful tear.
It's like such a vivid picture.

463
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:54,600
And so we keep going a couple
chapters later to Genesis 17,

464
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,040
one through 14 as we continue to
read about this this covenant.

465
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,040
I'll I'll start reading in verse
one.

466
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,640
It says now when Abram was 99
years old, the Lord appeared to

467
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,920
Abram and said to him, so let's
let's do the math real quick.

468
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,080
And we've done this in the past.
Yeah.

469
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,040
Previously we read that he was
75.

470
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
When he left Haran.
When he left Haran. 24 years

471
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,520
later. 24 years later, the Lord
appeared to Abram and said to

472
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,840
him, I am God Almighty, walk
before me and be blameless.

473
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,440
I will establish my covenant
between me and you, and I will

474
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080
multiply you exceedingly.
Abram fell on his face and got

475
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,560
talked with him, saying, As for
me, behold, my covenant is with

476
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280
you, and you will be the father
of a multitude of nations.

477
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,440
No longer shall your name be
called Abram, but your name

478
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600
shall be Abraham.
For I have made you the father

479
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960
of a multitude of nations.
I will make you exceedingly

480
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,320
fruitful, and I will make
nations of you.

481
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,400
The kings will come forth from
you.

482
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,440
I will establish my covenant
between me and yours, and you

483
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,600
and your descendants after you
throughout their generations,

484
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880
for an everlasting covenant to
be God to you, unto your

485
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,240
descendants after you.
I will give to you unto your

486
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,240
descendants after you the land
of your sojournings called the

487
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,760
land of Canaan, for an
everlasting possession, and I

488
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,640
will be their God.
God said further to Abraham, Now

489
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720
it's for you.
You shall keep my covenant, you

490
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,160
and your descendants after you,
throughout their generations.

491
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880
This is my covenant which you
shall keep between me and you

492
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,720
and your descendants after you.
Every male among you shall be

493
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,080
circumcised, and you shall be
circumcised in the flesh of your

494
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,160
foreskin, and it shall be the
sign of the covenant between me

495
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,960
and you and you.
And every male among you who is

496
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,880
8 days old shall be circumcised
throughout your generations.

497
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,960
A servant who was born in the
house, who was bought with money

498
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,800
from any foreigner who is not of
your descendants, A servant who

499
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,320
was born in your house or is
bought with your money, shall

500
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,160
surely be circumcised.
Thus shall my covenant be in

501
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,800
your flesh for an everlasting
covenant.

502
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,560
But an uncircumcised male who
was not circumcised in the flesh

503
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,120
of his forest, and that person
shall be cut off from his

504
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,040
people.
He has broken my covenants.

505
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,400
Very good, I'll take the
probably similar as long of a

506
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,880
read.
Galatians 316 Now the promises

507
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,800
were spoken to Abraham into his
seed.

508
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,280
He does not say and to seeds as
referring to many, but rather to

509
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720
1 and to your seed that is
Christ.

510
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,600
And I heard recently a podcaster
talking about this in the plural

511
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,040
versus singular.
And it's like clearly, you know,

512
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,800
the seed is one of those words
like sheep.

513
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,360
And so you it could be singular
or plural.

514
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,280
And I guess it was that way in
the original language.

515
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520
I'd have to look at it in the
original language to know.

516
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,360
I'd be curious to see if it's
it's that way, but the point

517
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,800
that was being made here was
Paul's making a theological

518
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,560
point that ultimately is
fulfilled in one seed, but the

519
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,080
but there was a way of
understanding it to his

520
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,160
descendants as well, right?
It's to all of his descendants,

521
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,120
but ultimately it is.
The promises are yes in Jesus

522
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,160
Christ.
That's right.

523
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000
And and of note too, it's like
man, this, this sign of the

524
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,560
covenant circumcision, it lines
up with that to seed.

525
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,640
You know, it's like this is this
is, this is what's going to

526
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,200
happen.
All right, so content of this is

527
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,720
his promises of many nations and
kings from Abraham that we've

528
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,600
been calling Abraham.
Abraham really all along.

529
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,400
We've slipped in a few Abrams
every now and then.

530
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,600
We don't have to do that anymore
because now his name has changed

531
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,600
to Abraham.
Yeah.

532
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,760
And then we see the seed
promised.

533
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,320
You mentioned circumcision.
Probably should do a deep dive

534
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,440
on that sometime.
I know people.

535
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,880
Will do that.
I would have to do an 8 part

536
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,240
series, yeah.
And there is, it is conditional

537
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,840
element.
So we do see like, hey, if you

538
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,720
want to be kind of a part of
this covenant, circumcision is

539
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960
the sign of that, of that.
That's right, yeah.

540
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Physical covenant.
We had a question recently on

541
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,720
one of our shorts about the will
of God, and the question was

542
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:54,160
like how could Moses be the
chosen leader through God's

543
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,560
will, but then he's almost
killed.

544
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,400
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, what a crazy passage.

545
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Right, right.
And I was like, and my response

546
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,200
was basically, I think this
demonstrates sovereign will and

547
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,600
moral will to AT God's sovereign
will, Moses is going to lead the

548
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,240
people out.
God's moral will.

549
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,000
You're going to follow the
covenant.

550
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,880
And if you don't, you can choose
to not follow it, but that's

551
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,280
going to come with consequences.
And it's not really clear to me

552
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240
whether it was Zipporah or
Moses, like, which one of them

553
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240
chose not to.
Like Zipporah finally does the

554
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,640
circumcision and like, throws
the foreskins at them and is

555
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280
like you're, you know, your
bloody husband to me or

556
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600
something like that.
Yeah, that it's, there's some

557
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,800
like idiom, I don't know.
There's something that's like

558
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,320
hard to really understand there
that that is very interesting.

559
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,560
Great.
So we keep going.

560
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600
I just, it's like, you can't,
you can't miss it.

561
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,280
You know what I mean?
It's like, hey, if you forgot,

562
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,960
just keep reading for two
chapters or three and you're

563
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:59,600
going to hit it again, right?
Genesis 2215 through 18 He goes.

564
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Then the Angel of the Lord
called to Abraham a second time

565
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,720
from heaven, and said, by
myself, I have sworn, declares

566
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,120
the Lord, because you have done
this thing, and have not

567
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,440
withheld your son, your only
son.

568
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,120
Indeed, I will greatly bless
you, and I will greatly multiply

569
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,960
your seed as the stars of the
heavens, as the sand which is on

570
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,120
the seashore, and your seed
shall possess the gate of their

571
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,560
enemies.
In your seed, all the nations of

572
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,440
the earth shall be blessed,
because you have obeyed my

573
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,240
voice.
This is coming off the heels of

574
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120
Isaac.
Maybe sacrifice.

575
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,160
This ramp shows up.
So that's what's going on here.

576
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000
And if you read that in the the
part that these verses weren't

577
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
there.
But if you read the verses in

578
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,560
King James, it says, and God
will provide himself a lamb.

579
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040
And it's like it's, I don't, you
know, it's hard to know whether

580
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,800
that's in the original language,
but it's in, it's in the

581
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400
authorized version that God will
provide himself a lamb.

582
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,280
So there's kind of a double
entendre there.

583
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Hebrews 613 through 18.
Did you have anything else to

584
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,880
say about justice for when God
made the promise to Abraham,

585
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,800
since he could swear by no one
greater?

586
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,880
That's what you mentioned
earlier.

587
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,760
He swore by himself, saying, I
will surely bless you, and I

588
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,640
will surely multiply you.
And so, having patiently waited,

589
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
He obtained the promise.
For men swear by one greater

590
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,040
than themselves, and with them
an oath given as confirmation,

591
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,160
as an end of every dispute.
In the same way, God, desiring

592
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400
even more to show to the heirs
of the promise the

593
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:37,240
unchangeableness of His purpose,
interpose with an oath, so that

594
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,080
by two unchangeable things in
which it is impossible for God

595
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000
to lie, we who have taken
refuge, who have strong

596
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,080
encouragement to take hope hold
of the hope set before us.

597
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Man, I'm, I'm aren't you so glad
Hebrews was written?

598
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240
It's like Hebrews does such a
good job, just like driving

599
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,320
these points home.
And so so we read this Genesis

600
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,080
passage.
After offering Isaac, God swears

601
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,480
by himself and throws in some of
this with the with the promise

602
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,200
offspring numerous as the stars
in the sand.

603
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,520
Offspring will possess the gates
of their enemies, and through

604
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,280
offspring all nations will be
blessed.

605
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,720
A lot of good stuff.
Yeah.

606
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,400
So if you take all of those, we
see some recurring themes land

607
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,760
it's given.
So we have a physical

608
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840
inheritance for Abrahams
descendants and I think This is

609
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,480
why you have to be some type.
Oh yeah.

610
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,320
I think you got to.
Well, yeah, this is a good thing

611
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360
to talk about because the the
tricky thing is it has the these

612
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,440
words everlasting like tied a
lot to some of this this land

613
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,280
stuff.
But why couldn't, I mean, why

614
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:52,280
couldn't it just be, you know, a
physical land in the future

615
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640
that's just like different than
you think that just is like

616
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,840
greater fulfilled.
It's like it's it is Israel, but

617
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,320
in a different way.
That's much better.

618
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560
That's not you know what I mean?
Yeah.

619
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840
So I, I, I think I know what you
mean.

620
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:09,160
So what you mean is Jesus, a
Jew, is going to come down and

621
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,120
rule from Jerusalem, and maybe
his immediate capital of the

622
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,040
whole world is going to stretch
from the Nile to Euphrates and

623
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
he'll rule the whole world from
there.

624
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
And but it's even bigger than
that because that's the capital

625
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880
and he's the king of the world.
Not to quote Leonardo DiCaprio.

626
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Maybe because I'm trying to
think like so nice and I don't

627
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,360
want to I don't want to de
relative.

628
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,840
This is better for a different
time.

629
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640
If we've got too much to get
through, but you know, looking

630
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,200
at Amil or looking, would they
be like, Oh, no, Jesus, he's not

631
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Jewish and not going to be a
king.

632
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,440
And you know, you know what I'm
saying?

633
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,320
Like, I don't think they, I
don't think that's what they I

634
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,080
think they would.
I mean, maybe they're

635
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,560
spiritualizing it by, you know,
not having the millennial reign.

636
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,000
But I But wouldn't they say he
it will reign over the whole new

637
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,040
heavens and new earth?
Or they would say no?

638
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,080
Will Jesus reign over all the
new heavens and new earth?

639
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Yeah, yeah.
OK.

640
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,200
Yeah.
So that's why I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm

641
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,880
missing like what the like,
other than it being the

642
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,760
millennial reign physically
before that, but you know, like,

643
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,720
what's the, what's the
difference?

644
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,080
That's what I don't understand
what you're saying.

645
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Like, what's their qualms?
This could be fulfilled in

646
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,320
eternity rather than in the
millennial reign.

647
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Correct.
Yeah.

648
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,760
I mean, would that is that what
they I mean I don't know.

649
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Potentially, but it seems like
in eternity you only have saved

650
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,200
people there.
So it's like it's kind of a

651
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,520
given.
Like to me it seems somewhat

652
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,880
anti climatic for this.
And what if we were to look at

653
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,280
the Davidic covenant?
Hey, you're going to have

654
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,640
someone who reigns on the throne
forever.

655
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Because So what you're saying is
pre meal, I mean there's going

656
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,360
to be like death.
He's I mean, there's going to be

657
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360
sinners.
And that's like more compelling

658
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,640
because of this.
It's like when he reigns,

659
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,840
there's going to be some bad
stuff going on, and that's just

660
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,440
like, you know.
He will reign and set the world

661
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360
to straight.
Yeah, He'll be a benevolent

662
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,440
dictator, the best form of
government, a, you know,

663
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,960
perfect, perfectly dictator.
And there will be people who

664
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680
will rebel.
But they will.

665
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,600
You know, face, they'll face
justice.

666
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,680
The justice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

667
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,320
And so it's so essentially that
that's the biggest difference

668
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,720
between that's what I always
hear.

669
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,720
It's like, oh, this everlasting
land that Amil like

670
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720
spiritualizes it versus
physical.

671
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,080
But but I would feel like they
would.

672
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,320
They would think the new heavens
and new earth is like a physical

673
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,160
place too.
But.

674
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Yeah, I do think new Heavens and
New Earth is physical.

675
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that that's what I always get

676
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,560
confused about 'cause then it
would be everlasting.

677
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000
I don't know, I or you know,
it's you know what I'm saying.

678
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,440
So anyway these.
Are the these thoughts I just?

679
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,360
But but then it's the whole
world, so why would you say the

680
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Jews have this?
So in eternity all the Jews have

681
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,400
to stay here and the goyim get
to go get the run of the rest of

682
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,680
the place.
Kid everywhere.

683
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,880
Else, yeah, I don't, I don't
know how all of that that is

684
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,000
going to be interesting just
with, you know.

685
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,880
And it's Will the new heavens
and the earth have the same

686
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,840
geography?
Right, right, right, right.

687
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:18,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's, that's
a good point.

688
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440
Yeah.
Unanswerable.

689
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Land.
Land.

690
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,239
All right.
And C yes, seed want to fly land

691
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,719
to it by seed.
Sorry.

692
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,840
So there's going to be both
physical descendants of Israel

693
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,920
and then there's the singular
seed of Christ and then the

694
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040
blessing to all the nations.
Gospel is going to go the

695
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Gentiles.
We see that clearly in Galatians

696
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,280
3/8.
The scripture foreseen that God

697
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,040
would justify the Gentiles by
faith.

698
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,639
Preach the gospel beforehand to
Abraham, saying all the nations

699
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,840
will be blessed to you.
So those are the three kind of

700
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,840
big bucket buckets for this
land, descendants and blessings

701
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,560
to the nations through Jesus.
Great.

702
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120
And so if we're, you know, doing
a little sneak peek ahead,

703
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,240
trying to connect this to the
Davidic covenant, which is this

704
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,920
is always interesting.
You know, in Second Samuel 7

705
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,960
word covenants not used.
We do read covenant in Saul in

706
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,760
the book of Psalms, but you know
you can have a covenant without.

707
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,400
Just like anything else, you
don't need some people.

708
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600
A verbal contract is a contract
even if you don't say this is a

709
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,360
verbal.
Contract.

710
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,080
That's right.
Just just you know, so you'll

711
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560
look at the David, the Davidic
covenant, and look at the the

712
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
promises.
There's a perpetual dynasty, OK?

713
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080
He's gonna have a son who's
gonna build God's house, and

714
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,800
there'll be a throne that's not
just any throne, but an eternal

715
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,200
throne.
And you think this son who will

716
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,240
build God's house is a double
entendre?

717
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,320
I mean, yeah, seems like yeah.
Yeah, with a with a close hand

718
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,680
and then all.
The yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

719
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080
I like that.
Connection.

720
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,040
The kings promise to Abraham are
narrowed to the line of David

721
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,760
and Messian Messianna.
Expectation is sharpened.

722
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
I mean, isn't that crazy?
Like everyone from the nuns,

723
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,360
like I'm under people like, yes,
I'm on the Trabajuda.

724
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Like this is, this is like the
this is, you know?

725
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,240
Yeah.
Like, oh damn.

726
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Oh, come on, I.
Think you know the best?

727
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
You know, you have all these
movies about the life of Christ.

728
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:21,160
If you had a movie that kind of
started with this devout Jewish

729
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,680
guy, maybe a grandfather
teaching his grandson, you know,

730
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,800
all of this stuff and they don't
know Jesus is on the scene yet.

731
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,720
And then you start seeing Jesus
and and like all the.

732
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,680
Stuff your.
Grandfather is was had taught

733
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,560
their son is like now being seen
in Jesus of Galilee and he's

734
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,360
like grandfather is this the
Messiah.

735
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
You know that would be a good
that would be a good life of

736
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Jesus movie.
So for all those.

737
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,520
Now you told the world.
Now they're going to take your

738
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,160
idea.
All right, New covenant first

739
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,320
mentioned in Jeremiah 3131.
So we are like fast forwarding

740
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,800
past the Kingdom, you know, the
judges, the conquest, all of

741
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,920
that stuff, the divided Kingdom.
Israel has been scattered by

742
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,440
Assyria.
Judah is about to be taken

743
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,000
captive.
That's what's going on.

744
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,080
And we're going to get Jeremiah
3131.

745
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,680
That's something.
Read that.

746
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,360
I'm not necessarily going to say
the listener.

747
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,800
Read that because you'll see,
you know, Jeremiah is basically

748
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,320
saying, hey, this Mosaic
covenant, you've broken it.

749
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Yeah.
This it's, it's no longer, you

750
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,880
know.
This is, to me, the most

751
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,600
compelling reason where there's
a little bit less continuity

752
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,520
than maybe like, Presbyterian
Brothers would say.

753
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,000
It's like, this just seems
different, you know what I mean?

754
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Like it dramatically.
Right, right.

755
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Yeah.
And even when Moses is giving

756
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,600
the Jews the Mosaic covenant
that God gave him, he basically

757
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640
says, you break this covenant,
I'm going to do all these

758
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,240
horrible things and accept
because I'm going to remember

759
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,520
Jacob and Isaac and Abraham, I
would utterly destroy you.

760
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440
But it's because of the
Abrahamic covenant back there

761
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,720
that I'm going to have mercy on
you.

762
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,720
And so we kind of see that
happening, but through the the

763
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,800
new covenant.
And and this is mentioned lots

764
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,800
of different places.
Jeremiah 3131, Luke 168 through

765
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,680
73 Galatians 326 through 29.
We're going to see that the land

766
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200
and now this is going to say new
heavens and new earth.

767
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Thanks Chad for summarizing that
force.

768
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,240
See Christ in him all believe in
blessing, forgiveness of sin and

769
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:38,520
spiritual indwelling.
So.

770
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,800
So Chad is not a dis be.
Luke 1 makes this connection the

771
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,120
coming of Jesus directly, like
you were saying to God

772
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,960
remembering his oath with
Abraham.

773
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,720
Gentiles grafted in heirs
according to the promise Paul

774
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:57,920
writes about in Galatians 3.
And Romans 10.

775
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,160
And Romans 10, Yeah, I think, I
think you're in right there.

776
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,800
So let's let's start moving
towards wrapping this up.

777
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,400
I just said there's some
discontinuity, but there is

778
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,760
obviously continuity where where
these these are, these are not

779
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,400
totally just that's where you go
wrong with the old school

780
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,840
dispensationalism where it's
like totally broken up, right?

781
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,520
No, no, there's more connection
than that.

782
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So kind of talked about it, even

783
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,040
if you get a broader picture, AB
and Eve, hey.

784
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:29,280
Multiply.
Yeah.

785
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,040
You know, do good things, do
this work.

786
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
They broke that, he says.
He's still going to say, you

787
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,920
know, go do the.
He may not say, multiply a

788
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,960
second time.
Oh yeah, that's interesting.

789
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Yeah.
Yeah, right, right.

790
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,920
Yeah.
Noah, he's going to, he is going

791
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,200
to say go multiply.
And he gives them rules about

792
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,200
eating meat with blood.
Man sheds man by his, you know,

793
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000
by man his blood will be shed.
So those are kind of those big

794
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,800
things.
Now we neck down to Abrahamic

795
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,120
covenant and then to the Davidic
covenant, then the New Covenant,

796
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,040
and they form this continuous
kind of redemptive thread.

797
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,400
So Abraham going to bless all
the nations through your seed,

798
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,720
Davidic.
The seed will be a king on an

799
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,200
eternal throne.
The New Covenant King Jesus

800
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,680
reigns, blessings all nations
through salvation.

801
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,760
Man, so good.
So that I, man, I love all of

802
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,720
these covenants.
Yeah.

803
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,240
You've taught the Covenant class
about a bajillion times, you

804
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,000
know, so.
I think it's because once you

805
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,560
have, once you kind of have an
understanding of the covenants

806
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,200
and a general history of the Old
Testament, it really, I think it

807
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,000
helps give you an interpretive
framework that you can go read a

808
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,720
book in the Old Testament and
kind of understand what's going

809
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:46,600
on.
Why are these people doing what

810
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,280
they're doing So.
Great.

811
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,320
Last question, are you part of
the people of the Promise?

812
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,200
It's a big question.
It is a good question.

813
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,120
With very big consequences.
Based on what?

814
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Your answer is eternal
consequences.

815
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,360
Yeah, yeah.
I like these Abraham.

816
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,880
This is #4. #4 got it done,
probably got about 20 more to

817
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,240
go, I don't know.
Hope you love Abraham.

818
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,520
This is great.
I love it.

819
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Anything else about the
Abrahamic covenant, my friend?

820
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,520
No, nothing.
Awesome.

821
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Well, that's our take.
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822
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,360
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823
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824
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