April 29, 2026

Cults | Contend for the Faith: Why Doctrine Still Matters

Cults | Contend for the Faith: Why Doctrine Still Matters

Episode 2.104


In this capstone episode of the Cults series, Michael and Zach turn to the book of Jude to answer a foundational question: why does doctrine matter enough to defend? Jude begins intending to write about the shared salvation of believers—but abruptly shifts to a warning. Something more urgent was at stake: the need to contend for the faith once for all delivered to the saints.


This episode walks through Jude’s central concerns—false teachers within the church, distortions of the gospel, and the denial of Christ’s authority. Rather than focusing on outsiders, Jude exposes dangers from within: leaders who use grace as a license for sin, who redefine truth, and who ultimately lead others toward destruction. The discussion highlights how these same doctrinal fault lines—God, Christ, salvation, and authority—have been at the center of the entire series.


Michael and Zach also explore Jude’s response: believers are called not only to recognize error, but to grow in truth, remain grounded in God’s love, and engage others with both clarity and mercy. Contending for the faith is not about argument for its own sake—it is about protecting the gospel and the people shaped by it.


The episode closes with Jude’s doxology, reminding listeners that while the church is called to contend, it is ultimately God who keeps His people secure. The call is clear: defending the faith is not optional—it is an essential expression of faithfulness.


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Jude, this will be barring
something crazy.

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Happening we always have the
door we.

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Could our last episode in the
series on the Colts?

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And really, I think it's like a
punctuation.

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Episode.
And it really comes.

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So you and I are both kind of
studying up for at least one,

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maybe 15 episodes on
presuppositions.

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Oh yeah, you're loving it.
You are loving it, Michael.

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And so we were listening to this
book called Only Believe.

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And it's very difficult for me
listening to this book because

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there'll be times where I'm
like, oh, yeah, that's 100%

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right.
And then there'll be times like,

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this is the worst argument I've
ever heard.

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So like, I'm like, do I have my
guard up?

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Am I listening?
Am I like, you know, a critic or

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am I good?
But he does talk about Jude and

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earnestly contending for the
faith.

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And when I was teaching, I was a
youth pastor at CBC, youth

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leader, probably, maybe not
youth pastor, youth leader.

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And we went through the book of
Jude, probably like a verse or

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two.
Even memorized.

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It and we memorized all of it.
Yeah.

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So it just called to mind.
I was like, oh, you know, that

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kind of goes along with our cult
things and why we did what we

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did and why we thought it was
good for us to look at those

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areas because we are supposed
to, as we've talked about,

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contending earnestly.
Oh, that, that's so good.

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It's like in the Christian life,
you've got this balance.

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You want to be all things for
all people for the gospel, but

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at the same time you've got to
earnestly contend for the faith

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and that that's important.
And I think, like you said, nice

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little punctuation capstone.
It's not like we just want to

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pick fights.
You know what?

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I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
'cause there's a lot of stuff

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that we could pick it like.
We did mention some things that

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not necessarily core like.
Right.

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Yeah, but that.
Are problematic like prayer to

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the the dead Saints or the
Marian doctrines.

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We we find those problematic
because it could end up edging

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into like a core issue, but
yeah.

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And what I like about this in
reference to this book that

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we're listening to, So what some
priests suppers will say when it

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comes to apologetics, another
version of their apologetics,

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they will say they just use
biblical apologetics, they use

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expository apologetics.
So I like this because you're

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using exposition for your
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You know that and and and you're
probably not going to do the

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traditional precept route.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And, and, and this guy, he
doesn't even call himself a

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young earth creationist some
more.

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He calls himself a biblical.
Creationist.

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When I, when I heard that, I was
like, oh, this, this, that's

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when I was like, I'm sending
this to Michael.

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This is good.
What is his name?

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Paul Frank.
Paul Taylor.

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Paul Taylor.
He's like a disciple of Sigh.

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Do you know this guy Psy?
I see him all the time online.

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He's like he is big in the pre
sub community.

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I need to find both these guys.
The let me tell ya, sorry, we're

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shaving a little bit of rabbit
trail.

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Zach and I are both listening to
the audio book that's available

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on Amazon.
I might buy the book to

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reference some stuff, but I
think I'll be fine.

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But the narrator does this guy
no favors 'cause he

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mispronounces words.
And you?

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Yeah.
What were some of them that were

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pretty?
Cool Kalam.

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What the Kalam Cosmological
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That's like one of the words you
want to nail if you're an

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apologetics.
Right.

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Yeah, yeah, there's a number
that he gets wrong.

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And I had to remind myself, this
is not the author speaking.

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This is the narrator speaking.
It doesn't make you know, 'cause

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you wanna, 'cause you think you,
you kind of get where it's

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associated.
The author is speaking to you

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and you're like, OK, the author
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Kalam, so we we won't attribute
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Love it.
This guy's presuppositional

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young earth like worked in
association with Ken Ham.

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I was like, this is this is the
kind of thing I need to send

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Michael.
This is the book for Michael,

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Yeah.
Well, let's get let's get into

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Jude.
Let's look at some.

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Background.
Take it to the next level.

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Let's fire up that twangy music.
From the hearts of the Low

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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
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So the book, the author, Jude.
Who's it written by?

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I think it's Jude, although it's
weird to me that these things

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are controversial at some.
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and you read it, he calls
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Christ.
He doesn't even kind of use this

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familial privilege there.
Yeah, that's interesting.

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Some of the key ideas of the
book.

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It's a very short book, but it's
an urgent call to defend

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Apostolic doctrine.
A warning against false

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teachers.
Emphasis on judgment, holiness

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and perseverance.
Strong use of Old Testament and

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Jewish examples.
Clay throwers, Spidey senses

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went off.
Old Testament examples.

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Are you?
Yeah.

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It's great.
Yeah.

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The book.
Can be not similar to second

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Peter.
We actually did a podcast.

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It's kind of a really just
looking at the not going through

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Jude, but kind of looking at the
similarity between Jude and

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second Peter 'cause they are
striking and they're like in

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order.
It seems like, you know, there's

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a lot of overlap on these things
like false teachers, judgment,

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imagery, moral corruption,
probably shared some, you know,

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dependence on the literary use
or, or tradition.

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So anyway, we won't go through
that.

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We'll cover some new, new
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Yeah.
So verse one and two, we have a

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greeting.
Verse 3 through 4, kind of the

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purpose shift we'll talk about.
And then he's going to give some

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examples of judgement 5 through
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8 through 16, Exhortations 2,
believers 17 through 23.

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And then he's going to end up
with two verses of doxology, so

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25 verses total in the book so.
What a great doxology have you?

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The only thing I've ever about
Jude is like intend for the

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faith and the doxology.
It's like, man, so good.

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All right, so why did he
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Jude says.
He wanted to, you know, write

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something about our shared
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And maybe that would be
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imagine in the book of Ephesians
is, you know, a general book,

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you know.
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compelled to write to encourage
us to earnestly contend for the

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faith because he sees a threat
to our church and this is an

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internal threat.
No, I, I think, I think that's

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good too.
I like that that's how it

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starts.
It's like this shift because

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that's like the first impulse,
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But there are important things
at hand that need addressed all.

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Right.
So the breakdown of earnestly

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contend, the word contend
earnestly comes from the root

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agonism may and we get our word
agonize from that, but it means

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to fight or struggle.
It does have this prefix EPI on

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it, which means to intensify
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So it is not a passive
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It is active, intentional
defense of the faith, and it is

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the faith that is that objective
faith that has been handed down,

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rooted in Apostolic teaching,
which we would find in our

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Scriptures, Jude says.
It is once for all delivered.

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Past tense.
It's already delivered, kind of

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just like Paul says.
Anyone else gives you a

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different gospel?
Yeah, you see these themes.

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It's not like, hey, just be on
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apostles, take what they're
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We don't, we don't see that at
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And you, I think you mentioned
the term internal apologetics

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and that's good 'cause you might
be like, we're connecting faith.

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What's the context, who we
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We're talking to the out people
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church.
It's not really for these people

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that are outside the church.
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at or focus at the folks inside
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against false doctrine, because
Jude's concern is that there are

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people inside the church who
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potentially who are distorting
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That's scary scary.
So let's go through his concern,

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starting with a big one, denial
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You would think you could like
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if like we had a church member
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Yeah, but you see, you know,
some of the the cults that we

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covered, you would see them, you
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doctrine of Christ.
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dying our only master and Lord
Jesus Christ.

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We're not giving a lot of
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actually talking about at his
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We have some guesses.
It could be early proto

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Gnostics, you know, some of
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that they give, perhaps the dial
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divinity.
Maybe just some moral rebellions

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framed as freedom within Christ.
We don't exactly know.

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But we do know that Christ was a
central doctrine for Jude, big

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enough for him to write about it
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And so application for today
Christology is non negotiable.

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Yeah, that's good.
It's not like it's like the kind

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of right, kind of wrong that
it's like Trinity, Christ, like

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these things are very important.
It's like it's one of those

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things it's like nice to.
It's nice to reference some of

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those early creeds, Very helpful
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And you mentioned it.
It's like some of these, you

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know, we look at LDS, we look at
these things like you're

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drifting with the doctrine of
Christ to get some wacky places.

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That's right.
Second big point was on the

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nature of the gospel itself.
So these folks deny their only

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Lord and Master of Jesus or turn
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licentiousness.
So we're giving a little bit

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more details for this one.
Licentiousness means to have

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license and so there could be
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which means that you have grace
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Basically.
Remember Paul said, well, why

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don't we send more so that grace
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He's like, you know, may it
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So those types of ideas, it's
basically, hey, you've been

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saved, go live it up.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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And it's like we talked about,
you know, in our last episode on

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the cult series, like with Amish
Mennonite, like, you know, maybe

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there's some legalism in there.
And we talked about like

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fundamentalist background.
It's like, you know, how much

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weight is, you know, legalism in
any capacity is not good.

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But it's like, I mean, are you
depending on these works for

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your salvation or on the other
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not matter at all?
Does a pattern of life not

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honoring God matter at all?
You know, some of this is like

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on a on a scale or like a little
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You know, we all are perfect in
this, you know?

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Yeah, it's very good.
So we have legalism on one side,

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licenses on the other side, both
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gospel.
And so Jude is going to be like,

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Hey, we have to fight for the
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And that kind of gives Lynn Lynn
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them, like, OK, we really need
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The doctrine of God proper, your
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salvation and your authority
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Jude's going to talk about
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You know, maybe you know, for us
Easter was just a few days ago

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our pastor preached out of First
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But if you read the beginning of
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going to say now I make known to
you brethren, the gospel which I

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preached to you, which also you
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stand by which you were saved.
If you hold fast the word which

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I preach to you, unless you
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And now he's going to give what
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as of first importance.
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in in in Christianity.
What I also received that Christ

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died for our sins according to
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that he was raised on the third
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he appeared to Cephas and others
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But those are the those are the
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earnestly and say that that is
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right, that is a false belief.
So let's talk about these false

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believers within the church
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might read this and think he's
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pagans and Pagan rituals.
It's that's not what Jude's

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talking about.
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look like Christians.
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church, but they're not part of
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They they don't, you know,
believe in to live out these key

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doctrines, but they're very
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like not like this person on the
friend or on the outside, but

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actively involved.
Yeah, and they could be sitting

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next to you.
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They could hold leadership
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be named.
You know, Zach, you never know

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if, who these people could be,
but all right, so Jude is going

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to give some examples.
And if you're, if it's your

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first time reading through Jude,
you're like, what are you

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talking about?
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like these people who are in the
church, they're not going to

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benefit from their proximity to
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judge false teaching and false,
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The same way He's going to give
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but being judged.
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It's like you're getting the big
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Like, I think it's easy to be
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and you kind of miss this big
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about.
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close but no cigar, Israel's
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10 bad spies came back.
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God says, OK, all of you, you're
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promised land.
So for 40 years they wander in

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the wilderness and all of that
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So that's an example of folks
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They had the revelation like God
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It's like, oh, we just did not
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We did not believe in what God
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So just because you're an Angel,
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proximity to God?
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There's folks, there's folks,
there's angels who left their

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proper abode.
Different discussions on what

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what we think that means.
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some type of special early
punishment and they're reserved

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in darkness for for that last
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I know, and it doesn't say
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I like.
I like or like whatever it says.

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That's great, man.
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Gomorrah, they were close to
Abraham, and, you know, Lot

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lived there.
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But that didn't save them, like,
because they still got judged

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and completely annihilated from
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towns, because of their sins.
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doesn't equal participation in
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Man, that, that, that's really
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Let's look at these false
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Who talks about these in verse 8
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And there, there are marks,
there's signs, there's moral and

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spiritual corruption.
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flesh, likely talking about
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They reject authority.
We talked about authority a lot

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in our cult series.
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mediated through Scripture and
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Maybe it's like arrogant speech
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maybe there's, you know, some
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You see a lot of people again,
get get consumed with the

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details.
Not saying that's bad, but it's

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like you're like, oh, Michael
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It's like a weird thing, you
know, what's this mean?

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All these kind of things.
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So those folks that we just
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about where are they headed?
What's their trajectory?

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They're headed towards judgment.
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some 3 old tests and examples of
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He's going to basically talk
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that are headed off to
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They have no idea.
They're just marching dumbly

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towards their demise.
Balaam.

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He's like whipping his donkey,

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like, go forward, go forward.
But he was headed right towards

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destruction.
And then Cora, this Levite who,

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you know, rebelled against
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appointed by God.
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his ilk were like, swallowed up
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That's wild.
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So the the trajectory is not
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You know, we have the animals
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almost killed in Korra, who was
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Man that that that is good.
So let's talk about why are they

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dangerous?
Jude is does this very well by

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giving us these metaphors to
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You know, think of a reef, you
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It's unseen destruction beneath
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Clouds without water.
When you see clouds, you might

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be thinking it's gonna rain
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it's like, oh, that's not what I

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thought.
There's this promise of

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something, but but doesn't
deliver autumn trees without

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fruits like we see other places
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If you know there's no spiritual
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wild waves, there's a lot of
chaos, no substance and

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wandering stars really talking
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there's no permanence.
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next big thing.
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read there is that there is
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good that fails you in the end.
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of false leaders is 'cause you
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direction.
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neutral, you're headed in the
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All right, so we get a number of
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fault finders.
So I think we all we're called

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to find faults to a degree.
But you know, you've been around

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the people that they just pick
everything that can never be

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satisfied, lust driven, arrogant
speech, they flatter for selfish

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gain.
They cause the visions among

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people.
They're worldly minded and this

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says they are devoid of the
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they're they're not saved,
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What Jude does well is he paints
this picture, paints these false

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teachers, but he also gives us
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we come across these false
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Well, the first one, it's a
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Expect it.
You know these things are going

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to happen.
You look around the landscape

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today.
You look around the cults we've

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talked about shouldn't be
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and the apostles.
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but build yourself up.
It's a good time to grow in

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doctrine to mature in Christ.
You read Ephesians 6, the armor

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of God.
You know, you're, you're

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leveling up and you're really
getting ready, building

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stability, putting on this armor
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devil.
A prayer and the Holy Spirit

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depend on God.
It's not just knowing a bunch of

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facts, assenting intellectually,
but really truly experientially

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depending on God, in addition to
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facts as well.
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ones, I'll say, keep yourselves
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It's kind of vague.
Like what, what, how are we

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going to nail this down?
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obedient, being faithful,
persevering.

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You come to a place like
Charleston Bible Church, we're

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talking about Acts 242 all the
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That's good.
Rails all.

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Those fundamental building
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Christian.
And it's not like you're trying

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to keep yourself 'cause we know
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loved by God.
So but you we, I think we

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experience a greater
relationship and a greater

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growing with him.
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Remain in that.
I think I have a note here.

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Let me see how it's worded here.
Yeah, it's not earning that a

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love, but it's truly abiding in
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I think that's a good way of
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But yeah, all those disciplines,
being in the Word, fellowship

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and other believers exalting
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worship or whether you're
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And obviously we said prayer
there and then kind of good

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going along with our.
Dovetails together.

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Our end times thing, but you
know we have this hope in

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Christ.
He is going to return.

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So that eschatology, our hope in
the end times, even though we

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may not all agree on how it's
going to work out, we do know it

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is going to work out.
Christ is going to reign and

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that should give us hope.
It exactly.

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Let's talk about another
response is how we minister

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toward others, show mercy to
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You don't have to just come in
heavy-handed like you, you,

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you're you're so dumb.
Shows a mercy, save others,

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participate in things like
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God and exercise caution with
the deeply correct corrupted.

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There's a phrase in in Jude,
either 22 or 23 that says hating

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even the garment polluted by the
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And so, you know, there there's
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You're not going to want to, you
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close to that.
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mentioned it, but just to kind
of tie it in formally, Jude

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provides A biblical
justification for that series

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because we are looking to
contend for these key doctrines,

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identifying internal distortions
of those key doctrines and

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prioritizing the truth, our
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we are focusing on those central
doctrines, not peripheral

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oddities, although we did
mention some that we thought

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could potentially affect key
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We wanted to evaluate those
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claims and recognize that false
teaching often comes from

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within.
Great, I love it.

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We're at the Doxology the final.
Do you just want to read that

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bad boy do we have?
It's like it's like you can't

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you can't do better than this
Jude Doxology.

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And it'll be a great way as we
kind of wind down towards the

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end of the episode here.
Yeah, there we go says if I can

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Scroll down there now to him who
is able to keep you from

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stumbling and to make you to
stand and I I love this stand in

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00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,760
the presence of his glory, to
stand blameless and to stand

440
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with great joy.
That's that's crazy to me.

441
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,800
To the only God our Savior,
through Jesus Christ our Lord,

442
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,960
be glory, majesty, dominion, and
authority before all time and

443
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now and forever.
Wow, and and the way you broke

444
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,800
it up in the notes is so good.
There's this promise that that

445
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,120
God's the one that keep you from
stumbling to make you stand in

446
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,880
his presence, stand blameless
with great joy.

447
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600
And then this huge focus on the
eternal reign of Christ, like

448
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,520
the the words around it, glory,
majesty, dominion, authority

449
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,160
before time and now and forever.
It's kind of you're covering all

450
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,600
your.
Bases it's like it's it's all

451
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,160
there.
Yeah.

452
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040
So it's great.
So I think that would preach.

453
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,640
That that would preach maybe on
4/19, maybe not, I don't know.

454
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840
Michael is preaching.
Maybe when this comes out he's

455
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840
about he just finished preaching
or about to preach or.

456
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,240
Whatever you know.
So that, that's good.

457
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960
I like that.
Good way to just exclamation

458
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,840
point the cool series that
started out as like a few

459
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,520
episodes and grew.
But that's good.

460
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000
That's what that's what we we
take feedback and adjust, you

461
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,240
know?
Yeah.

462
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040
Yeah, Yeah, that's good.
Last take.

463
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,840
Last take, I wonder how how are
your girls?

464
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,040
How are your older 2 girls
enjoying spring break?

465
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Well, this one's not my oldest.
Oh Dang, gotcha.

466
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,600
Lydia's not here.
How you get mixed up.

467
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,760
There's too many.
Too many.

468
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,600
You got too many kids.
How's soccer?

469
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,400
Is this your soccer attire that
you got?

470
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560
It's not I I ended up I bought
some other soccer attire because

471
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,200
I ordered the wrong size
apparently because the I don't

472
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,640
understand the sizing makes no
sense because this fits me like

473
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,040
pretty.
Well, and is that a small?

474
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,000
This is a medium.
Yeah.

475
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,240
That's just medium, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

476
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Which is.
So I initially got a small and

477
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,040
it's like so small, like it's
very very uncomfortably.

478
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280
Tight, Jayden.
Probably could wear I'm like

479
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,440
this is not like these things
are I like them, but they do fit

480
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440
snug.
You know, I just, I just need

481
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,920
someone to tell me like this
like I need like a sizing chart

482
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,360
or something.
I guess so.

483
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,200
So last time we recorded, you'd
got a new watch I think.

484
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,360
I did got the old.
Have you had to?

485
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,280
Have you had to charge it since
we were recorded?

486
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,880
I've I did charge it one time I
charged it today, I think for a

487
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,120
little bit, but I love it.
You know, keep the battery going

488
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,040
now I I I didn't know clay had
one.

489
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520
So now we can, you know, have
Garmin talk.

490
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,880
He's he was like totally
derailing our chat man and

491
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,320
changing it to Garmin.
I was kidding.

492
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,320
It's good.
I didn't I don't know half the

493
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,600
things it can do.
So let's go.

494
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,800
I mainly just got it for the
battery.

495
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760
So this will be fun.
Be fun to investigate it more.

496
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960
It's crazy, like you, if you
mainly got it for the battery,

497
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,760
you, you could get a watch that
you just like twist or, or that

498
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240
has a battery that lasts like
three years or something in it.

499
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
You know one of those.
That's true, it wasn't just for

500
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,080
the battery.
That was very true.

501
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,200
I like I priced it as last time
Garmin.

502
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520
It tracks your body battery.
Yeah.

503
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,880
You said you were wanting to see
if it was just like, Yeah, yeah.

504
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,120
So I still can't tell.
I'll I'll tell you what my if

505
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,280
you should guess what my body
battery is right now.

506
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,360
Out of the scale of what?
100% it's like a, it's like a,

507
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,840
it's like your phone battery
kind of.

508
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,240
I would say it's probably
telling you 42%.

509
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Wow, man, I must be glowing.
Garmin's saying 28%.

510
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,240
I need AI, need a charge and
it'll tell me like my sleep was

511
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760
pretty good.
I got like a 70% recharge or

512
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,520
like terrible sleep, 40%
recharge, not a good sleep.

513
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,880
So we'll see how accurate it is.
You know, compared to Apple

514
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,120
stuff, I like the body battery.
I don't really run so I don't

515
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,480
use it for a lot of running
stuff.

516
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,360
Don't really lift.
Don't I?

517
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,480
I don't I I do lift but not
crazy.

518
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,120
Thing I said in our chat, I
don't think I've, you know, we

519
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,440
talked about it, you know, all
those stuff and I've been

520
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,640
working out and then I don't
know what happened.

521
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240
I couldn't get any of my
daughter to go with me to work

522
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,000
out.
What the heck?

523
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,280
I don't like working out by
myself, but I think we are going

524
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,160
to work out right after this.
Oh, are you now?

525
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,520
That was one of the reasons that
she came out.

526
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760
So Charis is working to get her
license.

527
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,440
So she drove over here.
And you were saying like, she

528
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,120
like, hit like one person on the
way.

529
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,640
It was pretty nice.
Yeah, yeah.

530
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,800
So one is not that bad.
So you.

531
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840
Know It was dark at night.
It was in the alleyway.

532
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,640
No one's gonna know.
I won't say anything.

533
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Don't.
Don't worry.

534
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Well, that's exciting.
Chloe's gonna work out, too.

535
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,160
I don't think so.
Chloe's.

536
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Chloe's trying to wrap up her
senior portfolio, so that's what

537
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,200
she's been focused on.
That's so crazy.

538
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,160
She graduate to May.
Yes, God willing, Yeah.

539
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,000
Wow.
Chloe, I remember when she was

540
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,400
knee high, you know, just a just
a little.

541
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.

542
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,160
Oh man.
Well, that is exciting.

543
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,680
That's probably a really busy
time if it's trying to wrap up

544
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,720
portfolio stuff.
It's been very busy.

545
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Not stressful at all.
Well, great, good.

546
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Anything else you got?
That's all I got.

547
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,600
All right, that's our take.
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549
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