Did the Universe Always Exist? | 3 Min Challenge

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Hey everybody, it's Zach here
with Michael bringing you a

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bonus episode of the Take Two
podcast.

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And you guys have all heard of a
hot take.

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Well, what we are going to bring
today is a freezing cold take, a

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take so bad that our apologist
extraordinaire Michael can

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dismantle it in just three
minutes.

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Now behind me, you see this is a
cold plunge.

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We've got it set to maybe the
mid 40s degrees, so very cold

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water.
I'm going to get in here for

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three minutes while Michael
dismantles this, and I really

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don't want to go longer than
that because.

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This water could take me 10
minutes.

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Don't take 10 minutes because
this stuff freezes, but that's

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how bad this take will be.
So welcome to freezing cold

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takes.
Hope you guys enjoy all.

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Right, well, Zach's getting
ready.

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I'll get the timer started all
right.

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Ready.
I'm ready.

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Let's.
Go and the timer has started.

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So the question is, atheists
will often claim that the

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universe has always existed or
that it came into existence by

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some law of nature like gravity
or quantum mechanics.

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But does that make sense?
Well, the first question that I

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want to ask is, does the
universe actually exist?

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Yes, it does.
No one seriously doubts the

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existence of the universe.
We're here, we see it.

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Second question, has the
universe always existed?

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No, and here's 3 reasons why.
One from philosophy and

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mathematics.
If the universe has always

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existed, then it had been
existing for an infinite number

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of days.
But start counting.

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You'll never get to Infinity.
Keep adding one.

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Keep adding one, you won't get
there.

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And in the same way we would
never get to today if the

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universe has existed for all
eternity.

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Second reason from science, the
second law of thermodynamics.

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We all learned in school that
the usable energy of the

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universe is going down second by
second by second.

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If the universe existed for an
infinite period of time, then we

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would have no usable energy for
us to use today.

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But clearly we do.
Third reason from science.

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The Borg Guthal Ankum theorem
shows that any universe that has

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on average expanded over its
existence cannot be passed

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complete.
In other words, it must have a

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beginning.
So if the universe began to

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exist, we have two options, and
that's question 3.

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Did something 'cause it to
exist, or did nothing 'cause it

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to exist?
Nothing can't 'cause anything.

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And in fact, nothing is worse
than magic.

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At least with the magic you have
a magician and a hat.

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So we know that something had to
cause the universe to begin to

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exist.
Question 4.

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Is that something, a what or who
what's like gravity or the force

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or quantum mechanics?
They can't decide.

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They're impersonal forces that
kind of always just do what they

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do.
But the universe came into

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existence at a given time.
That means that a person had to

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decide to do that.
That means that the something

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that brought the universe into
existence is a who, not a what

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Now question 5.
What can we know about this who?

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Well, if it brought the universe
into existence, that's all of

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time, all of space, all matter.
That person can't be made of

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those things.
He has to be timeless, faceless,

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have no body, has to be very
powerful and very smart,

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unchanging and self existence.
That, my friends, sounds a lot

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like the God of the Bible.
Alright Zach, 2 minutes and 35

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seconds I got. 20 minutes just
to hang out in this gold punch.

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This water is very, very cool so
but I'm I'm glad you did it in

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under 3 minutes.
That's how bad that take is

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atheist.
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