Gratitude vs. Thanksgiving | A Biblical and Practical Distinction

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Thanksgiving around the corner.
Just around the corner, Yeah.

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I mean, this comes out Tuesday,
right?

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Tuesday.
And Thanksgiving is.

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Thursday.
That's right.

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Seems like it's sooner or
something, I don't know it's.

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Weird, it seems different this.
Year.

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Yeah, yeah.
Got anywhere?

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Do anything?
What was that?

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Y'all go anywhere?
We're staying put.

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We're, you know, holding down
the Fort.

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You guys are hitting the road.
Hitting the road, going to

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Alabama.
Bama Yeah.

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Nice.
Hey the there was been an Iron

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Bowl around Thanksgiving.
Yeah, you know, yeah.

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OK, not that just feels like, I
mean I.

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I have mixed feelings because I
don't love Auburn.

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They're ACC, right?
They're not.

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They're not SCC.
Well, maybe they are.

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I think actually are I've.
Got they are SCC right?

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I'm sorry, I'm a.
Cam.

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Newton Guy Yeah, yeah, I I just
think back to the Iron Bowl

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where Alabama tried for the
field goal.

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That's classic.
And then they got ran back.

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Classic.
You're not going to keep them

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off the field in line.
Man, well, I don't know if

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you're about to say something,
but I was about to say half

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baked ideas.
Half baked.

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Yeah, not that through totally.
Probably not a phrase you want

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to hear around Thanksgiving.
Half baked.

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Yeah, you want when it.
Comes to turkeys or pies or

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rolls you.
Want those bad boys Fully.

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Baked, but these are half.
Baked.

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These are half baked.
They might not even be that.

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Are you familiar with a Turkey
Trot?

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Turkey Trot, Yeah, Yeah.
But I'm trying to think there's

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one I think you have where they
would you would eat Krispy

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Kremes is that.
They should I get a garage on

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food like your Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, like some type

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of brace the day of or the day
after.

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It's like a sometimes like a 5K,
something like that.

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I think they do one in car.
They do.

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I know they do like everywhere.
What about a Turkey?

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Try for the turkeys for.
The turkeys.

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Turkeys doing the Turkey try.
That's what I want to see.

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There's something there.
It'd be like maybe a maybe like

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a fixture on Thanksgiving on
July 4th.

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You watch the hot dog eating
contest.

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How?
How far?

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Like 40 yards.
Yeah, it it could, it could be a

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5K.
That's true.

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That would we would not be on
track.

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You know, you know, there's
something and maybe, maybe.

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And what kind of turkeys did you
have in mind?

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All of them.
All of them.

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All of the varieties, that's
part of the fun.

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It's like the Olympics out
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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And, you know, winter maybe,
maybe, you know, these turkeys,

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they get eaten later.
And it's like, you can be OK I

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bought the fifth fastest Turkey
or something.

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I don't know.
I like, I watched, you know, I

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watched documentaries.
I I still know and I watched

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like documentaries on like
slaughterhouses and stuff.

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That's depressing.
No, it's fine because.

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You're not talking like like
factory farming.

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That's what I'm saying.
I mean that's you don't think

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that's depressing?
No so many antibiotic it just

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seems like it can't be.
No, I'm talking about just the

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slaughterhouses, not not what
happened at on the farm, but

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just like, and there's like the
science of, you know, keeping

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the animal calm, how they how
they get them to go where they

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want them to do and stuff.
And then they really like snuff

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them without them knowing it's
even coming because you don't

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want like that adrenaline stuff
because I guess it makes the

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meat not not tender.
So that would be to bring it

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full circle back to the Turkey
Trot.

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You know you you know the
fastest may not be the the

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tastiest.
Maybe.

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Maybe you want the slowest.
Maybe you want, you know, Who

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knows?
But yeah, and I'm just

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imagining, you know, there's you
have wild turkeys.

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I saw, I saw one today maybe.
Yeah, just in the middle of the

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road.
And then you have domesticated

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turkeys like that.
You would have on a farm that

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like lived there for years and
years.

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But then you have the turkeys
that are bread for mass

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production.
Those would not do so well.

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They're, they're like, don't
they're like Frankenstein

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monster type stuff.
You know, someone once told,

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once someone once told me this
might be for different podcasts

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that they're, you know, maybe
faster than they look.

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Yeah, yeah, maybe turkeys are
faster than yeah.

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You don't know?
Yeah, I mean.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but that's 1/2 baked idea.

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Another one or Yeah, keep going.
Speaking about faster than they

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look.
We we, this is this will take a

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long time.
We should do this next episode.

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This will be good.
I was hurt.

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We'll just keep going.
We'll just keep going.

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It's on my list of things we
should talk about.

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I'm always going back to sports
fantasy draft around

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Thanksgiving.
Maybe you draft like a team of

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people you want at your
Thanksgiving dinner.

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Or maybe it's like, these are
the people I don't want my

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Thanksgiving.
You're drafting for your

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opponent.
That's right.

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Maybe you're like, hey, this is
what you got to deal with.

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And I draft the crazy uncle
who's like as soon as the door

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open, we're in politics or
something like that.

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I don't know.
Yeah, that that would be most of

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my family are politically
aligned so, so that we don't

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really have those types of, but
I can only imagine.

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But I feel like that's like the
same here.

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I feel like that's like the
stereo I feel like I hear.

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About this guy now my family,
there's definitely parts of my

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family that I can go up to the
Michigan sides of my family that

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that, that that could be an
issue because not not all of my

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extended family are would be
politically aligned.

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But I think my immediate family
on both sides, we're all, you

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know, we're all thinking the
right way, you know what I'm

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saying?
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What are some What would be
other people you'd be like?

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You don't want this person.
That's your Thanksgiving dinner.

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Maybe the aunt is getting a
little tipsy before things have

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ever kicked off, or the sister
who, like, just likes to pretend

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that they're helping in the
kitchen.

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But not really.
Who are you kidding?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, maybe there's like the
aunt who like is known for like,

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bringing this casserole that's
like, everyone got to eat it,

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pretend they like it or
something like that.

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I don't know.
Yeah, or maybe the gassy

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grandpa.
Gassy Grandpa.

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There you go that that's true.
I like that.

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I think, you know, it's not
totally thought through, but

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there's like there's some
there's something there.

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There might not be much
something last thing I had for

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half baked idea is not a half
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something that is totally in
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You might be familiar.
I wasn't.

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Are you familiar with chess
boxing?

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I am very familiar with chess
boxing.

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I've not watched it, but the The
thing is, do you need to be a

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good chess player or a good
boxer?

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Dude, that's that.
That's why it's like the

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perfect.
That's why it's great.

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You got to switch back and
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Do you know the rules of this?
Tell me like how do I'm, I'm

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assuming it's not one move and
then box and what I'm sure

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there's like a certain number of
moves in boxing.

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I I think it is 3 minute rounds
and like your chess game is like

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a 10 minute clock.
Like you normally when I think

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after three minutes of time, you
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like a minute in between to
recalibrate, like OK, I'm and if

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you lose to get knocked out, you
lose to get tech checkmated and

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it's like, you know what's going
to happen.

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That's amazing.
That is, that is amazing because

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this week was Skis a chess
tournament.

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Yeah, yeah.
The day I was with high

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schoolers at a Skis, a chess
tournament and Tuesday, Mr.

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White took Wednesday because I
was like, I can't take three

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days off of work in a row, but
so, yeah.

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Nice 3.
So it was lower school, middle

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school, upper school.
Yeah, how they did it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Makes sense.

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Yeah, man, there's some drama
around the the lower school.

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You may be aware.
I was.

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Hearing some of this, let them
have it.

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I know, I know.
Skiza like eats up our podcast.

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Let them have it right now.
Well, in the past, So what?

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Yeah.
There's so much.

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There's so much.
I would just say that, you know,

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generally in these types of
tournaments, you, everyone gets

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paired randomly at first.
That makes sense.

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Yeah.
And then the winners play the

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winners, losers play losers.
And then people who won two

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games, they play each other.
And the people who lost two

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games, they play each other.
And then people who lost 111,

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they play each other.
And so it's trying to sort out

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the best from the worst.
And The thing is, you're like,

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let's say you and I both get 5
points and you happen to get

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randomly paired up with junk
players that you beat very

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easily and then they lost all
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I happen to get paired up with
middle of the road that kind of

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won some, lost some, but you're
a better player than me.

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But because I face off against
players who might be in the

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middle, my rankings will be
higher than yours at the end of

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the day, because my, my, my
opponents who I beat had a

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better track record than your
opponents, which for, for the

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Swiss system, because we're
trying to get like the top, you

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know, 10 top three individuals.
It still works fine to get the

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top.
It's really good at figuring out

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the top, but the middle it, it
gets really mushy.

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So you get their individual
awards, There are team awards

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and the team are your top four
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Team.
And so you could have like

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probably no one has like #1
number two, number three.

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So most of the time you maybe
have someone that's up there,

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but then a lot of the middle,
that's important.

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Yeah.
And so, OK, so with all that

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background, what what we have
done historically is if two

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teams tie on the raw score for a
place that gets a trophy, they

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both get recognized, they both
get a trophy, even though the

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tie breaks may say 1 was
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of all the randomness of the
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And last fall we tie break.
We we were tied for third.

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We were the top of the tie, Pine
one was the bottom of the tie.

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We both got recognized and
everyone was happy this did.

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Not happen.
That we were the bottom tie

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break and we did not get
recognized, but it was all been

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repaired.
I came home with a trophy and

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medals today, and I think the
executive director of SKIS is

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going to come to our schools and
personally recognize our team.

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So yeah, yeah, as they should.
As they should.

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Well, sounds like we got a lot
of gratitude going on, which

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sort of segues nicely into our
podcast episode.

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Maybe you thought about this,
Maybe you haven't Looking at

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gratitude versus Thanksgiving.
Yeah, because I think they're

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all up the same.
But I'm, I'm excited to talk

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about it.
It's, you know, set the tone a

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couple days before Thanksgiving.
So we're talking about

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gratitude.
Yeah.

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Versus Thanksgiving, yeah,
they're the same thing, right?

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It's fine.
Let's find out.

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That's that's the question at
hand.

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Let's go ahead and take it to
the next level.

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Let's fire up that twanga music.
From the hearts of the Low

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I like what you said, Michael.
Gratitude for Thanksgiving, same

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thing.
I think they do get lumped into

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the same thing sometimes.
I haven't thought about super

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closely that often.
Would you say that I don't want

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to let the cat out the back to
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Would you be say thankfulness
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thing?
But maybe Thanksgiving is its

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own category.
I, I think so.

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And I think Thanksgiving is
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under talked about, under
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think something people say just
thankfulness like, you know, and

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it's different than
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Right, right, right, right.
I I will argue so maybe, maybe

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we should go to good old, good
old Webster, man.

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What, what what are like the go
to Dicks?

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There's Oxford Webster.
There is Merriam Webster, yeah,

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which is different than Webster.
Oh, oh, I didn't know that was.

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Because the Webster did it all.
And then he has his own like

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from the 1800s, right?
The original Noah Webster one

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and then just riding off of.
Webster's.

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Hotels just.
Coming in and like, I'll make it

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a little bit better.
Unbelievable.

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Well, according to, I think this
is Webster, gratitude is

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acknowledgement of having
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another.
If you're kind of reading into

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it a little bit, it's this
internal awareness, you might

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say quiet recognition, probably
something that you can do in

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solidarity on.
You can have this gratitude like

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on a beach, somewhere in your
home, somewhere like by

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yourself.
Yeah, there's a hymn we sing.

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My heart is filled with
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of like, and you just, you know
that everything you have is by

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God's grace.
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kind of hold it with open hands
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I like it.
And it's like we, we should have

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gratitude and then Thanksgiving.
I mean, it makes sense.

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It's giving thanks.
This act, for instance, I like

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the way this definition puts it
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It's like this, this action,
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Thanksgiving's kind of the
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It's like wearing the gratitude
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I like that.
It's like it requires some

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action, whether it's speech,
worship, testimony, generosity,

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there is some active outward
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think's really good.
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it a little bit is way back when
I was doing some like wisdom

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book stuff, there's this guy,
Bruce Waldke.

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His name comes up all the time.
He's.

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Like, 100 years old.
We've talked about him on the

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podcast before, yeah.
He is like awesome.

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He's such a great teacher.
Like, he's got a ton of YouTube

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videos out there, like tries to
make a lot of his content free.

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He's like on all these
translation committees, one of

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the leading scholars in Hebrew,
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And he'll make the argument that
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Thanksgiving Psalms, but we
really don't have a good word

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for Thanksgiving in English.
I think we do have the word is

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Thanksgiving, but it's like it
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It's not like you might be like,
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But it's like, no, like when you
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Thanksgiving Psalms, it's like
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They're expressing praise like,
in a very outward testimonial

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like way.
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So maybe, you know, here's a
common thing that we talk about,

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like walking the walk and
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So this would be talking the
talk like that outward, you

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know, sharing with others.
That that's exactly right.

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And what Waltke would argue is
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It does encapsulate me like,
hey, thank you, Michael for

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that.
But it's it's that's like

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scratching the surface.
It's really like giving

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specifics to why you're
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It's kind of more in depth.
It's this when, at least when

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it's, you know, in, in
Scripture, it's a public

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proclamation testifying what God
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And that's why you read the
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It's over and over, like we hear
about the Exodus and we hear

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about the wilderness and we, we
hear about rehearsing of all of

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these things where sometimes I
think we can be like, I'm

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thankful for family, which is
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But it's not like drilling down
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So like very specific.
Very specific, I get.

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Yeah, exactly.
Does he differentiate between

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second person and third person?
So that's like you break it

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down, giving thanks to God like
God.

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Thank you for all these
specifics verses.

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Let me tell you about what God's
done in my life, which is going

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to be a third person.
I don't know if he's done that

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or not.
I'm not, I'm not paying

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attention.
But I like that because it's

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really interesting to you read
these Psalms and it's like, and

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we'll hopefully do one of these
next episode, but it's just like

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I, it's, I read it and in my
more analytical brain, I'm like,

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I could have said this in one
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like we're just like, we're just
like expressing this over and

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over.
It's great, you know.

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Yeah, I do.
There are some people and maybe

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I should just, you know, maybe
I'm like, well, they they

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probably pray more than me.
You know, if I always thinking

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like, you know, characters
leveling up, you know, like you

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have different things.
And, you know, I could be

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probably praying, praying,
praying, praying is not my not

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my strongest suit.
Like I always think I could be a

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better prayer.
So I wonder if people who just

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kind of have that gift and can
pray more because I'm more like,

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God, you're sovereign.
You know exactly what I need,

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Here's what I want, Here's why I
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And then like, I'm dressing you
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And then, yeah, I'm like, all
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type of thing.
But there's some people that can

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really, they really can
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And so that's what we're going
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I think you're exactly right.
And so if we go back to

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gratitude first Thanksgiving
don't want to say they're like

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totally dissimilar.
You know they both are are this

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they both are responses to God's
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They both acknowledge and
dependence on God.

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Both are marks of humility.
Someone who is spirit led and we

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see gratitude and thankfulness
like I'm not saying like don't

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have gratitude.
Sure.

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And I wouldn't even.
Yeah, go ahead you.

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Probably had to have gratitude
first in order to then express

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it in thankfulness.
That that, that's good.

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Drilling down on differences.
Gratitude is that inward

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awareness.
Thanksgiving is that outward

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expression.
Gratitude, you know, as you

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know, we're thinking about it
sometimes focuses.

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I don't think this is always
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This is what it says here.
Focuses on the gift where

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Thanksgiving focuses on the
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I think it can be that way.
Like I'm thankful for this car

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that's been provided for me.
You kind of like don't maybe go

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the extra steps.
Sometimes I think you're gonna

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have gratitude and.
I think I've said this before,

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but I inherited my father's
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Where?
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm driving it

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right now.
I think the legally it'll be

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finalized that I like legally
own it, but then like it's had

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some transmission issues here
and there and I was so anxious

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about it going out and I thought
you didn't do anything to earn

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this.
Yeah, that's really.

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Like, why are you like, like,
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And I remember it was a real
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Like, all right, God, you gave
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I've enjoyed it as a gift and
it's yours.

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Wow.
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Not that I'm not going to take
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you know, keep it up, but you
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that's part of it.
I don't know.

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I.
I think you're right thinking

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along the right lines as I was
thinking about it more too.

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Another I think key difference
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You might think in your, in your
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I'm thankful for my family
having Thanksgiving would be I'm

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going to tell my family I'm
thankful for them.

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Not only that, I'm going to show
them that I'm thankful for them.

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I'm going to serve them to show
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them.
I'm going to praise God publicly

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for them.
And that's like all together

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different.
Maybe not all together

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different, but it's I think I am
a very grateful person.

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I have a lot of gratitude.
I think about that a lot, But I

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when I was going through this,
like I don't, I'm not

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Thanksgiving.
I'm not, I missed the because

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I'm, I'm like very content.
I'm I'm like, I go over these

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things, but I'm so thank you God
for this.

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But I don't like, I might think
that towards someone, but I

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don't go out of my way to tell
them that like, and it's like,

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Oh, I should do that so much.
More.

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It does, yeah, yeah.
Then it's like weird and it's

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too much and you're like, Yep.
It's like, wow, that's a good

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way.
Even if you don't tell them,

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like show them, serve them.
There's a lot of good things

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that we I could do better in
that.

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It's like, wow, I kind of
stopped short at gratitude and I

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kind of when I think about it,
this is, you know, arrogance.

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Like I'm a pretty grateful
person.

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I'm content.
I'm not like always wanting, but

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it's like, man, I'm not for
being someone has a lot of

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gratitude.
Not really think I'm not.

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I'm not really showing it, you
know?

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Right.
Yeah.

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No, no, that's good.
So bit so anyway some some

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biblical passages we can look at
let's look at Colossians.

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I see Michael's got Bible out.
This is good Colossians.

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I just.
Wanted to be in ASB so I was

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like I've got to get there.
I got to get there first.

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That's great.
Look at Colossians 2, six and

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seven.
While you're doing that, I'll

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turn to 1st Thessalonians and
then there's another Colossians

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passage you can take.
All right.

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Yeah, I'll after that.
After that.

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All right, so Colossians 26
through 7 says, therefore, as

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you have received Christ Jesus
the Lord, so walk in him, having

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been firmly rooted and now being
built up in him and established

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in your faith, just as you were
instructed, and overflowing with

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gratitude.
That I like that you, you need

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to be that and that probably
like you were saying, to really

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show Thanksgiving, you probably
need to have gratitude.

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I like the way that passage like
overflowing with it like it's

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got to be.
That's like why it's

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Thanksgiving, because it's like
coming out.

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Normally bring stuff to light
better, not just.

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There you go nice I like that.
First Thessalonians 518 says

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give thanks in all circumstances
for this is the will of God in

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Christ Jesus for you.
One of my favorite series we did

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was your based on your cynical
class with the will of God.

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It's like you might not know
everything.

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That's the will of God.
Like boom this is like this is

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the will of God.
You should give thanks like have

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Thanksgiving.
And then Colossians 316 says,

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Let the word of Christ richly
dwell within you with all

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wisdom, teaching and admonishing
one another, with psalms and

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hymns and spiritual songs,
singing with thankfulness in

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your hearts to God.
So that's like this one.

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That's definitely the second
person you know, Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, right there.
You're.

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Expressing your thankfulness to
God in those different avenues.

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No, it's good.
People that like are, you know,

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people that are singing, they're
always like, you know, they've

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got that gratitude.
They're always like, you know,

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they're like walking around home
in a tune or something, you

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know?
You know, there's like there's,

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there's a performance side of
things too, because you want to

454
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840
do it excellently.
And there's sometimes you got to

455
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,680
like, where do I draw the line?
Sometimes when I'm leading,

456
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,960
singing, you know, Joel has
mentioned, you know, I'm can

457
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,760
tear up.
I love it when Joel mentions

458
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,680
that's like the best.
But sometimes I'm like, don't

459
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,720
think about the words because
you are here leading those other

460
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,240
people out there.
So just like I try to sometimes

461
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,440
squash emotion, I'm like, is
that a right thing?

462
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,600
Or a wrong man.
That's such a good point.

463
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Do you ever get up there and
you're like, I mean everything

464
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,680
you're saying from Scripture,
it's meaningful, but you're

465
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,240
like, I was not prepared for
this to make me emotion like

466
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,400
you're like I I like with
thought about my head was not

467
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,280
emotional and then you're saying
and you're like, I'm emotional

468
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:43,840
about.
It did that happen on when you

469
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,640
were showing that picture during
the adoption?

470
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,840
Yeah, that happens like at
random times where I grew up.

471
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,440
Like I think I I am an emotional
person, but it's like as like

472
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,440
I've gotten older man, like more
emotional.

473
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,440
With the case of families.
If you know what I mean so.

474
00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,320
So, so you know, you can pat
yourself on the back because you

475
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,840
did.
I I saw you express thankfulness

476
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,920
Thanksgiving during the adoption
thing when those pictures came

477
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,960
up.
See, I don't think I think about

478
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,520
this a lot.
It's like, man, this really hit

479
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,720
me where I was like, yeah, I
just should do things to show.

480
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920
It's like, what good is
gratitude when you just keep it

481
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,800
inside?
You know what I mean?

482
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,760
So that that is really good.
Psalm 100.

483
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,080
I was going to say we're going
to look at this one.

484
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,240
This is what we did last year.
I think so.

485
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,680
Yeah.
Yeah.

486
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,680
So it's like, oh, we can't, we
can't do this.

487
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,600
But 100 verse forces enter his
gates with Thanksgiving and his

488
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,840
courts with praise.
Give thanks to him, bless his

489
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,040
name, for the Lord is going to
steadfast love endures forever

490
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,880
and his faithfulness to all
generations.

491
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,000
So you've got this like public
praise and again in Hebrew, this

492
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,400
word is like more closely maybe
to testimony.

493
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,440
It's like, man, let me show you
and tell you and rehearse all

494
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,040
these things that God has done
because I am such a thankful,

495
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,400
thankful person.
I'm thinking even now maybe some

496
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,680
of this will make it to our
fifth Sunday because maybe we'll

497
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,120
have some testimony and maybe
I'll talk about gratitude versus

498
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,880
Thanksgiving and like, hey, I
know sometimes it sometimes it

499
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,080
feels like I'm bragging.
Yes, that's my default thing.

500
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,800
I don't share a lot because I
feel that way.

501
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,240
It's like, that's stupid or you
know.

502
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,000
Yeah, you're like, I'm so
thankful for the job I have.

503
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,760
I'm so thankful for, you know,
all like I'm so thankful for how

504
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,640
God has.
And you feel like you're like

505
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,040
puffing up and it's like, how do
you do that without doing that?

506
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,080
So.
You did a good one too.

507
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080
If some, and it's like, I'm just
kidding about this, but it's

508
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,040
like someone's like I've been
cancer free for four years.

509
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,400
You can't be like, I don't know.
It's like it's hard to, you

510
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920
know, hard.
Well, you could say I've been

511
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600
cancer free for 47 years now.
That's.

512
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,360
True, it's it is one of those
things like I'm probably

513
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,400
thinking about it too much where
you're like, I don't wanna you

514
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,360
know, but it's like it's good to
you know, if you're giving God

515
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,040
praise, that's good.
And they're definitely press

516
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,160
record.
There probably is a definite way

517
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800
where you can't do this wrong
and with people that do it

518
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200
wrong.
I think it's not on purpose.

519
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,680
Like give people grace when
they're sharing.

520
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,240
I don't think people are like,
sometimes can come off that way.

521
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,840
And it's like, I guarantee you
most people are.

522
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,320
They're trying.
Yeah.

523
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe they're just overflowing

524
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,200
where they, you know, they're
not going to script their words

525
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,720
perfectly and they do want to
just give God's praise.

526
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Maybe they just said it in a way
he wouldn't or something like

527
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,080
that.
But you know, I always, I'm

528
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800
always, I probably think about
these things like much more than

529
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,760
than needed.
But gratitude and Thanksgiving,

530
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,600
they're both important.
I like this gratitude.

531
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,400
It kind of fuels the worship,
but Thanksgiving kind of

532
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,000
completes it.
Like if you're not expressing

533
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,880
the things, it's not done.
Right, it's yeah, because you

534
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:52,240
could have it inside and maybe I
you could pray to God quietly,

535
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,160
but really, you know, you're not
expressing it where others can

536
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,920
hear it.
So I like that it it's the

537
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,080
completion of the worship.
Next one we have here is

538
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760
gratitude confronts the lie of
self-sufficiency.

539
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,920
I think often times we think I
earn this, you know, I'm doing

540
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,520
great, man.
I really outwork my peers or

541
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,120
stuff and certainly I think we
have a part to play.

542
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,840
But you know, all of our life
experiences, our nature, our

543
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,760
nurture, those are all gods and
and God could on a dime, you

544
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,960
know, turn that very, very true.
And so gratitude confronts that

545
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240
self-sufficiency.
Thanksgiving dethrones idols by

546
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760
rejecting, redirecting praise to
God.

547
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,200
So instead of like thinking
about the object that you're

548
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,880
thankful for, that's.
Right man.

549
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Back up to the the the giver of

550
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,720
the gift.
Gratitude and thankfulness,

551
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Thanksgiving together they
reduce anxiety.

552
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,080
I like how scripture just like
makes this abundantly clear.

553
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Gratitude kind of changes your
perspective and then

554
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,200
Thanksgiving, you know,
gratitude internally is

555
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760
reorienting you.
Thanksgiving is reorienting you

556
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,640
outwardly where you're doing
things that do relieve anxiety

557
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,000
of Philippians 4-6 and seven pop
famous, you know well known

558
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
passages.
Don't be anxious about anything

559
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,920
but in everything by prayer and
supplication with Thanksgiving.

560
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,640
What's your request?
You may know to God, and the

561
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440
peace of God, which surpasses
all understanding, will guard

562
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,640
your hearts and your minds in
Christ Jesus.

563
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,320
That's great, that's great.
They mature us.

564
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,360
So like we've mentioned before,
gratitude can help you be

565
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,360
humble, help you realize that
everything we have is really

566
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480
from God's grace.
Thanksgiving can help you walk

567
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,200
this line of obedience where we
are, you know, doing what we're

568
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,760
commanded to, which is to give
thanks.

569
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,560
But also, I think you can help
you, you know, stay away from

570
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,440
sin in certain areas, especially
sins of pride and stuff.

571
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,880
And then together, they kind of
have this spiritual maturity

572
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,240
because it's hard to be
spiritually true if you're not

573
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,520
those two things.
Yeah.

574
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Totally agree.
And then you've got this effect

575
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040
of blessing others people.
You probably felt this way a

576
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,240
lot, underappreciated or unseen
or something like that.

577
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Like I think everyone's felt
that way.

578
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,800
There's a job or something like
that.

579
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800
And when someone like notices
that you're like, oh, wow,

580
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
that's really, really good and
all, and it's like same thing.

581
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320
Probably a lot of people like
they, they, they know you're

582
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,440
doing a good job, but they don't
express it because it's like, is

583
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,880
that like, is that like too
much?

584
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,280
I don't.
Know.

585
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,240
No, that's great.
Yeah.

586
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,960
Not to not to pat my back.
Well, let's toot Jill's horn

587
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,240
here.
I was at the chess tournament

588
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,960
day and this guy used to be at
our school who's at another

589
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,680
school now, but we were pretty
good friends, so we always talk.

590
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760
He's like, is Jill still at the
front office?

591
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680
And then I was like, yeah, he's
like best asset there at the

592
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,000
school.
I was like, oh, that's, that's

593
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,040
great.
That's great.

594
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Share that.
Like that's very meaningful and

595
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,320
it's like, so you shouldn't.
Yeah.

596
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600
So it doesn't, it doesn't take a
lot.

597
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,400
It didn't.
Cost him anything that's right

598
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,720
to.
Say that, you know, right?

599
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,560
And that's that's so good.
So practically, you know, tell,

600
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,720
tell that testimony.
Don't, don't keep it inside.

601
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Reach out to people who have
been meaningful and influential

602
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,920
in your life.
It's good maybe you know your

603
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760
prayer meeting you've had a lot
of prayer requests like share

604
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,840
like this all got answered this
prayer like follow up on those

605
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,000
kind of things and serve others
as Thanksgiving infused as an

606
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,680
act of worship.
I think it's great.

607
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600
And this is coming out on
Tuesday before Thanksgiving.

608
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,520
And I we know you're always
caught up listener.

609
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720
So you're getting this before
Thanksgiving.

610
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,880
But even if you're getting it
after Thanksgiving, you can

611
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,680
still take up these challenges.
Like, hey, lean into considering

612
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560
being grateful for, you know,
what you've been given and think

613
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
of practical ways that you can
express that even, you know,

614
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,240
horizontally to other people
about God or vertically to to

615
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,960
God.
And then maybe everything OK.

616
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Yeah, I, I, I don't know.
I don't see my mic bouncing up

617
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840
and down.
I guess I don't know if it's

618
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,360
your mic or my mic.
Well, we'll, we'll, maybe we'll

619
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,560
use this audio since since the
camera's audio, it'll be fine.

620
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,600
But maybe, you know, you can
take this Thanksgiving with the

621
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,280
especially younger folks.
I think, you know, having been

622
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,040
at this phase in life, you
realize, man, a lot of stuff was

623
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,040
done for me when I was younger
that yeah, I didn't, you know?

624
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,240
So maybe think of ways you can
bless your parents or your

625
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680
grandparents or your aunt,
uncles and express your

626
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,040
gratitude towards him, you know?
Man, that that's good.

627
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080
I, I can close this out.
This is a great CS Lewis quote

628
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,400
because CS Lewis has all these
quotes.

629
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,160
I think it's really good.
He says that I just came to my

630
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,800
mind like I was like, oh, this
is like perfect.

631
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,280
I think we delight to praise
what we enjoy, because the

632
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,080
praise not merely expresses but
completes the enjoyment.

633
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,960
It's the appointed consummation.
It's not out of compliment that

634
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,360
lovers keep on telling one
another how beautiful they are.

635
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800
The delight is incomplete till
it's expressed.

636
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,480
It's frustrating to have
discovered a new author and not

637
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,120
to be able to tell anyone how
good he is.

638
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,600
That comes suddenly at the turn
of the road upon some mountain

639
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680
valley of unexpected grandeur.
Then have to keep silent because

640
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920
the people with you care for it
no more than for a tin can in

641
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240
the ditch to hear a good joke
and find no one to share it

642
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,640
with.
It's always mine and.

643
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,160
You're like, oh, we're the Scots
Catechism, says the man's chief,

644
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,800
and is to glorify God, enjoy him
forever.

645
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160
But we shall then know that
these are really the same thing,

646
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,560
bully to enjoy is to glorify and
commanding us to glorify him.

647
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,680
God is inviting us to enjoy him.
So it's like, man, when you

648
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560
express that I know what, what
will?

649
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Said CS Lewis.
Clive Staple, what's his name?

650
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Clive Staples.
Clive Staples I think.

651
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
What a what a name.
Good way to end it next episode.

652
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,400
Yeah.
Psalm 92.

653
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Psalm 92.
Psalm at Thanksgiving I.

654
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Bet it's just like normal, just
straight in order, right?

655
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,560
Just goes straight, you know
most important things at the top

656
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,120
and the bottom right.
But listen and find out.

657
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,920
That's our take.
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658
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160
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659
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