Jan. 5, 2026

Joshua 1 | Not Just History — A Prophetic Story of Promise, Obedience, and Rest

Joshua 1 | Not Just History — A Prophetic Story of Promise, Obedience, and Rest

Episode 2.71


When most people think of the book of Joshua, they think of battles, land allotments, and famous lines like “Be strong and courageous.” But Joshua is doing far more than recording Israel’s history.


In this episode, Michael and Zach reframe Joshua the way the Jewish Scriptures do—not as mere history, but as prophetic theology. As the first book of the Former Prophets, Joshua isn’t just telling Israel what happened; it’s preaching what covenant faithfulness looks like when God’s people live in the land.


The discussion explores:


-Why Joshua belongs with the Prophets, not just the “history books”

-How obedience to God’s Word, not military strength, drives victory

-Why the land is a gift, not a trophy

-The tension between promise fulfilled and promise still incomplete

-How Joshua exposes Israel’s need for something greater than land—a new covenant and a better mediator


From Eden to Abraham to the Promised Land, Joshua advances the Bible’s larger story of salvation while leaving us longing for final rest. The book points beyond itself—to Jesus, the greater Joshua, who brings true inheritance, lasting obedience, and eternal rest.


Joshua isn’t just about how Israel conquered.

It’s about what kind of God keeps His promises—and what kind of people can dwell with Him.


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Well, welcome back, Zach.
This feels like it's been

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forever.
Yeah, it does feel like a very

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long time.
Yeah, we kind of went on a

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couple marathons before
Christmas so we could have a

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couple Christmas weeks off and
New Year.

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New year, new me?
Yeah, just to say new New year,

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new you.
Nice shirt you got on there.

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Thanks.
I was going to, I was thinking

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of your, your hat there and I
was like, man, you think Drake

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Mays going to win the MVPI?
Don't think he's going to.

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I think he should.
I don't think he's going to.

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I think he's going to give it to
Matthew Stafford.

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I was going to say, you know,
then he would be, I mean, pretty

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close to Tom Brady because I
think Tom Brady only has three

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MVPS, right?
Yeah, like, I know like Super

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Bowl 51, Matt Reeves, is that
the quarterback for coming out?

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All right, all right, one of the
Christmas.

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Presents I I'm I'm donning nice
Aaron Rodgers jersey.

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I just brought him up because he
has four MVPS, one more than Tom

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Brady.
So, you know, but Drake May is

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close to time.
If he gets one, he'll be closer

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to Tom Brady, not quite close to
Aaron Rodgers, but you know,

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maybe one year.
Did you buy this or is it

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gifted?
To it was gifted to I've never

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had, I don't think I've ever had
an NFL jersey before all.

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Right.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
That's nice.

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Yeah.
I was just going over what?

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What's that guy's name?
The quarterback of the Falcons,

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Matt Reeves.
Oh.

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Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan.

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Matt Ryan.
Yeah.

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Knew Reeves was was not right.
It didn't feel right, but I knew

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it was close.
Yeah.

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When he won the MVP, he didn't.
He was a good he.

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Won the MVP that year.
That's true.

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That's true.
That's.

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Good for him.
And then he got eventually

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smoked in the Super Bowl.
So I was like, take your pick,

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you know, that's and that's, I
almost said something like, I

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almost don't want him to win it.
I don't.

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Think.
I don't think.

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Drake.
Is the type of person.

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I don't think he pays a lot of
attention.

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To it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So that's a good, that's good,
but I think it might be just a

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little bit.
Of once you start.

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Yeah, a little bit of a.
Getting it, it's like, yeah,

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'cause I've seen, I mean,
obviously the only weird thing

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about Stafford getting it is
that his team is not like a one

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or two seed.
Like he's putting up great

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numbers.
And then the the thing I keep

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saying about the Pats is I might
have made this up.

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This doesn't sound like it could
be right, that they beat like

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one team with a winning record
this year or like something

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crazy.
I'm like, that's insane.

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That is true, but when you look
at the defenses that we played.

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I've seen this statue.
We played like some of the top

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defenses, so I guess we played a
lot of what's that?

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Game, but pulse the team sport
now.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this?

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Is why it's hard with the NDPS
and stuff 'cause I do think

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objectively.
Who was the Most Valuable Player

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to their team?
That that could because Patriots

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do have a good team, but Drake
may has been like on the money.

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He's been really good.
Matt Stafford has some really

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good receivers.
I think I think Drake May has

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he's.
Got a digs?

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Digs only plays like half the
game, like you know what I mean?

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Like he's really good though,
but it's and they've got a good

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it's tough.
We don't have one of those just.

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I know.
Top, top, top of the class

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receiving score.
But you know, Pop Douglas, he's

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doing it good.
There's a young guy, I, I can't

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remember his last name right
now, but he caught a couple.

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There's that Chisholm guy, you
know, so it's like really been

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spread.
Hunter Henry has been catching

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some Hooper that we got from Oh
yeah.

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Who'd we get them from?
Saints maybe.

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I don't.
I can't remember where we got

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him from, but so it's been very
spread.

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You know, it's not been like the
Mahomes, Kelsey, Mahomes,

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Kelsey, Mahomes, Kelsey.
Mahomes, even like when Brady

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and Gronk or Edelman, you kind
of have your like receivers you

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0 in on and it's like you're
just you got that connection.

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It's even more spread out.
Yeah.

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So I'm interested to see who
wins because and Matt Stafford,

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whether this is fair or not,
this is like it could be like a

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lifetime achievement award, too.
It's like he's had a lot of good

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years and it's like, I know you
should.

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It's based on the season.
It shouldn't.

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Be that but.
Where it's like you.

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Know Drake could break his leg
next year and be out basically

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for forever and then you're.
Like, you didn't have it, that

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one.
Yeah, Yeah, it is very.

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And this year's a weird year
because like, you look at the

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playoff picture and you're like,
every team is good and every

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team is bad.
Like what's it even matter?

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This like some teams have lost a
lot.

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It it doesn't make any sense.
Does it I I've thought about

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this quite a bit because of all
the schedule.

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Oh, you're playing this.
It's so much is about yeah, so

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much, so much.
Does that mean what?

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What does that mean?
Because we have had years in the

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NFL where there had just been
some two or three or 4 dominant

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teams and they're basically
winning a whole bunch.

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And this year it's like you,
it's really any given Sunday it.

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Really is, yeah.
So that means it has the league

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overall gotten better?
Has the league overall gotten

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worse?
Some people said the the trade

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corridor, what's it called?
Portal has made it worse because

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college students aren't required
to like they can stick into a

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system, learn that system.
So they kind of kind of dumb the

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college level down some because
you're just going off of

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athlete, the athlete.
Instead of like learning, Yeah,

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I don't know.
All I know is, and you can

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probably hear it a little bit in
my voice.

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My voice is like shot, 'cause I
was up to midnight last night

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watching this Raven Steelers
game that I knew we were going

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to lose.
I knew I just.

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I was.
I did not realize that y'all

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both of the teams were fighting
for their.

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Lives I would.
Have paid more attention because

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my football day yesterday was
full.

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And then Jill was like, hey, you
know, let's straighten up, you

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know, you know, if you'll fold
the towels, I'll straighten up

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my corner and then, you know,
let's play a family game, which

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those words never come out of
Jill's mouth.

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I was like, oh.
Yeah.

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Yes, ma'am.
Let's do it.

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So we played two games of
concentration or memory.

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OK, yeah.
And then one game of Uno, the

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one No, I guess no.
I've not played it but I've seen

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like a bunch of these versions.
Yeah, it's the one where you

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like, you can get up to 25 cards
and you're out.

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No mercy Uno.
Mercy.

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Oh, OK, OK.
Happened to win two of those,

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one of the Grats, the Uno one
yeah, yeah.

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So then I was like, you know,
getting ready.

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So I, I, I tuned in late and saw
the, the information.

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I was like, whoa, I didn't
realize it was, I thought they

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were like, are we going to be
the 3rd to see the fourth seed,

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third, you know, type of thing.
I didn't realize it was that

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cut.
Crazy it came up because the

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NFLS we know is scripted and did
you?

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See a picture of the last play.
No.

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Because there was a Steelers
player, yeah, yeah, who went

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over the top of the long
snapper.

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Should have been a penalty.
Man, I'll, I'll tell you what,

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it's like every game like this
is not why we lost the week

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before to the Browns, but it was
like we're and I've seen they

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the rest are calling this more
this year, but it makes no sense

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like they're calling more and
more offensive passenger affairs

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on pick plays that aren't
they're not pick plays.

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We got we got hit with the same
thing.

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It's weird.
I'm like.

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Hunter Henry ran a route and
they had like a little bit of

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contact and then he turns around
and they're still contacting

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like who's contacting whom here?
It's.

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It's crazy.
And like everyone, like everyone

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in the booth, the rules analyst
is like, yeah, even the

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analysts.
Were like that that's a bad call

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and even I was watching earlier
like the Tampa Carolina game and

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like there were like egregious
calls like some guy like face

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masked the guy and took his
helmet off like no call it's

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like the guy's missing his
helmet it's like how did we miss

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this like it's.
It is crazy.

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It's like when they missed big
things like.

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That I know.
Yeah, there was.

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This has happened a couple times
and I don't even remember who it

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was.
I think it was someone Saturday,

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but I could look it up 'cause I
posted it on XI.

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Should just look it up while I'm
talking.

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But you know, certain things are
reviewable and certain things

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are not reviewable.
So there was a play where there

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was a backwards pass and the
backwards pass got reviewed and

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it was dropped and he picked it
up.

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For the two point conversion.
It wasn't 2 point conversion.

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It was let's see, I I I I get on
these retreating re sharing

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stuff so much.
Maybe I can find it.

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May I but the the team doesn't
really matter.

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It all I'm saying is it wasn't
the the pads.

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So I'm so you're I'm objective,
very, very objective bystander.

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So it was a backwards pass.
It was dropped.

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The guy picks it up and starts
running with it, but was blown

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dead as if it were a a
incomplete.

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Pass, but it was.
But it's live, so then they

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review.
So it was blown incomplete and

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you get the ball back at at the
scrim line of scrimmage.

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They review it, they declare it
is a backwards pass and you lose

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6 yards on it when that guy
could have ran.

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So it's so he got the team.
That he got the worst of both

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calls.
He wasn't allowed to run and the

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ball got moved back 6 yards.
It's like if you can't make it

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right, right, Yeah, don't change
anything.

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Don't change anything, yeah.
Just leave it as an incomplete

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pass.
It's crazy 'cause these calls

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like even not to complain
because we won the game, but

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Raven Steelers, there was a play
we got called roughing the

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passer and that those are always
so tough.

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Like we were it was too much
weight.

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It was technically late on
Lamar, but the reason why we

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were late on Lamar is because he
got, he got trips and fell on

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Lamar, but he got tripped like
the guy stuck out his leg and so

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it was roughing the passer, but
where was the tripping called

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that made him rough the passer?
It's like crazy.

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And so it's like not it should
have been tripping initially 15

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yards for the steward, but he
said it was 50.

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It's a 30 yard swing, or you
know what I mean.

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Yeah, those are so.
Frustrated offset it'd be like

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that's better yeah yeah, but we
it was great off a missed field

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go man don't I feel bad for
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I feel bad it's like and our
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right before to make make us
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I was like, this is it, we're
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I saw that the, what's his name,
Harbaugh or whatever the coach

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is, just took a knee instead of
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Oh yeah, Henry.
Like he could have shaved what,

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4-5 yards off of what this
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kick?
Insane because even leading up

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to this like they had three time
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Steelers in Steeler fashion
burned our three time outs like

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in the third quarter.
Also not a real thing.

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It's probably a Steelers thing
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Rogers headset wasn't working.
He traded out helmets like 5

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times.
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and it happened at the pass and
we were accused of like sending

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radio waves.
You probably did cheat on this

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one.
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figuring that out because it was
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yard on like we needed the
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So it was important, but we had
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Could think someone who's like
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plays.
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on the 2 minute plays when he 2
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own plays, rolling, rolling,
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where you go all the way, all
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coordinator, you should look it
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It's great.
Our whole team, it's a counter.

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Our whole team is going to the
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where all of us are going to
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from the Ravens just like thank
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It's like turn over on downs.
We went for it, but it's like,

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what a terrible play call.
Like no chance was that Aaron

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Rodgers or the offensive?
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Yeah, we wasted all this time.
And it's like wasted all the

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time to get a bad play call.
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think this is just true of
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we're like hustling up and he's
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we do so much better.
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don't know what it is, but it's
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offense going.
There is something about the

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two-minute drill.
It is everyone, just like flies

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on.
Why can't we just just always do

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the two-minute drill?
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It seems like every quarterback
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they're like trying.
It's like.

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It's more of a prevent.
Yeah, It's like great.

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It's like, yeah, you should do
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But it was it was, it was
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Like we let our kids like, stay
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They never stay up that late.
And it was like, it was like.

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We should invited you over for
the Pats game and then we go

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Next time.
The evening.

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Yeah.
Next time.

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Bittersweet here.
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If you like the NFL, it's bitter
because regular season's over.

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Yes, Yeah, we got the playoff
season that's going to last

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maybe about four.
And then you won't have to hear

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us talking about NFL for, you
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if you don't like the NFL, it's
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So, you know, it could be, could
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When we spend a lot of time on
NFL but just like Aaron Rodgers

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the the leader of the Steelers
getting us to the proverbial

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playoffs, which is the promised
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Who do y'all play in the
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We play the Houston Texans,
which has a real a defense, but

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they've looked kind of rough the
last three weeks.

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Our offense is pretty anemic.
We get DK Matt comeback and

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it'll be bad.
You're playing at Houston, no?

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We got we're division champs, so
we get the higher, we got the

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worst record, but we get the
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division.
We're at home, so it's pretty

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nice.
But y'all are y'all are AFC

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North.
We are OK.

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I guess so.
I don't know.

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I don't know all of them.
So that's the wild card.

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Part of it, yeah, Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, they got wild card so

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because.
They have a priest again.

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Dude, I hope so.
That holy water.

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Honestly, I don't think much of
Catholics, but I'm starting.

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No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.

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I saw that on the same side.
And so I'm like, man, insane.

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But we're going to be talking
about Joshua.

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May be doing a few weeks going
through the book of Joshua.

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Yeah.
I'm sorry, did you say Jesus?

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Yeah, if you listen to previous
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what?
What's going on?

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Yeah, I should, I should have
just gotten straight Hebrew to

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really confuse, confuse people.
So we're going to do a little

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overview, some background, some
context as we get into this

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series.
But let's go ahead, take it to

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the next level.
Let's fire up that twanga music.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
The book of Joshua, or I should

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say, you know, where does Joshua
rank in in Bible character lore

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to you?
It's like when I study him, I

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think, wow, this is a good guy.
But you know, also when I study

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him a little bit, you know, he's
kind of put off as timid a

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little bit.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause he's got to

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be so.
Encouraged so much, but you

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know, maybe mid.
I'd say mid.

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Mid yeah, I think so too, 'cause
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parallels Moses even a lot of
the acts like it, but it's like

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Moses is always like kind of
like the greater right, like so

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that kind of overshadows.
That I bet he circumcised his

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sons.
Hey.

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Yeah, without having to have
Angel the Lord come threaten him

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to kill him.
Probably probably true if you've

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been paying attention to this
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Joshua takes special place in
our household because my 4th

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born, my fourth child is Joshua
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He had some parameters he had to
do AJ name and he was like his

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favorite Bible character at the
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We were actually going to name
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cause Jayden was really, he was
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So we went Joshua Judah.
I coached a a Judah.

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Oh yeah, I like, I like that
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And Jayden was like just loved
the Joshua story and I'm excited

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to get into it.
I will say there's a couple of

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books I've been using as I've
kind of gone through some of

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these notes.
One, this is like if I'd

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recommend a book on Joshua.
This is so good.

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This is by Dale Ralph Davis.
OK, Dale, it Ralph Davis.

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It's called Joshua, no falling
words.

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It is.
It's like a very short

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commentary, but it's very
insightful versus I'm also been

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using.
This one's not as insightful.

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It's very insightful.
It's more academic.

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It's from the NIV commentary on
the Old Testament, just probably

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written in like the 80s or
something.

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But it's really good.
But it's it's this is like so

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much, so much bang for your
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This you have to really like.
You get good stuff, but it's

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like you gotta.
Really work through.

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It but I cannot recommend this
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I haven't made my way all the
way through it, but it's like so

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good.
Oh, he is in South Carolina.

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I need to get this guy Wow He
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and then got to Columbia.
But anyway, let's frame this

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book a little bit.
When you think of Joshua,

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probably like many of us that
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maybe we're thinking broader
evangelical average person, like

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there's a lot of things that
probably come to your mind right

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away.
What are like the the the big

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beats?
If I had to put it in one word,

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transition, that's good.
You're starting to transition.

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You know, obviously after
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Judges and it's just kind of
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And, you know, I always found it
weird that we have laws about

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kings in, you know, in what the
kings were supposed to do, but

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they weren't supposed to have a
king.

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So when they get a king, it's
it's bad type of thing.

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Like what was the real plan?
Like, were they outside of, you

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know, So I always wonder about
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You know, there's questions.
There's like apologetic

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questions.
Those are good, like all the

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killing genocide.
Right, like the the supposed

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genocide, but then how are they
still there?

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Because it's like, and they keep
fighting them, they keep

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fighting them, they keep
fighting them.

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They drove them all out.
OK, great.

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We own we, we have a wall
around, you know, Israel and

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it's ours.
Well, you know, quote UN quote

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ours.
But then it's not because

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they're still there during the
time the judges are still there

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during, you know, Saul and so
you know, those types of things.

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I think that's great, what I
wrote down.

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When I think of Joshua, I feel
like transition's good.

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I think of I think Jericho's
like like one of the pinnacle

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stories that you could sing to
it, You know, judge battle that

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that's right.
I think of like you alluded to

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it, be strong and of good
courage.

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Think of the promised lands.
If we think about it, maybe a

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little bit less familiar and
getting some insight.

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I I like looking at how the
Jewish Bible lays things out

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versus English Bible pros and
cons to both ways you organize

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stuff in the English Bible.
It really goes Pentateuch than

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to historical books, than to
wisdom literature, than the

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prophets.
So Joshua kind of kicks off

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historical books.
That's true.

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It's part of history.
I think sometimes you think when

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you think of history, historical
books, you can just think of,

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OK, it's like this conquest and
this conquest, this campaign,

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this land.
It's like chronology, which

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isn't bad, it's true.
But I like what what you can do.

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You can flatten out the story.
You can just think, OK, Moses is

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done.
This is, you know, Israel as a

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nation continuing, not wrong.
But you can miss some of the

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significance.
And I like how the Jewish Bible

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lays it out, not because it's
better, but just makes you think

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a little bit differently.
They have, you know, the Tanakh

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old Jewish Bible has threefold
structure.

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Torah lines up with our
Pentateuch.

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They have the Naveen, the
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KET of them, the writings, and
Joshua is the first book of all

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the prophets.
It's like Joshua is a prophet.

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That's a little bit different
way to think about it, even

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though I think we all would
agree, you know, he would fit

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fit that bit on something, maybe
not in the same way as Isaiah,

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like a little bit different.
But when you think about that, I

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think it kind of sets your your
tone.

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You know, what, what is Joshua
quote, UN quote, you know,

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prophesying theologically, What
kind of things are we supposed

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to, to think about?
And So what I think Joshua

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emphasizes is, you know, we have
the Torah.

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What's it look like to live the
Torah out?

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How do we put it into practice?
What's obedience to the Torah?

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How are we faithful to Yahweh?
And then, you know, if we aren't

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obedient, there is not that
faithfulness.

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What are some of those dangers
to where it's really not just

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reporting events, it's preaching
through history where you see

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like this covenant, you see
these things.

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It's not that one's right or
wrong, but I think it just

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challenges us maybe to think
about it slightly.

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Differently.
Yeah, if you are disobedient,

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you may find yourself aching.
That that's exactly right.

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And I love this contrast.
Like we'll talk about it more.

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It's aching.
I see the pun aching.

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00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,280
Yeah, that's good.
Where it's like, what's that

436
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,280
tell us like someone in the
covenant community can like be

437
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,040
disobedient and throw it all
away.

438
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,920
And just before someone outside
of it, Rahab, it's like you see

439
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,360
these things where it's about
covenant like I think that.

440
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,360
Means something.
Yeah, exactly.

441
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,280
So anyway, keeping in mind as we
go through Joshua, it's good to

442
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720
see God's faithfulness in light
of what comes before it.

443
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,840
The Torah, Genesis, through
Deuteronomy, the seriousness of

444
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,400
being obedient, covenantaly,
that victory, there's a lot of

445
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320
conquest.
It doesn't necessarily come from

446
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,840
military might, but through
faithfulness and trust in God.

447
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:59,240
Well, I've always wondered 36
guys, is that is that a huge

448
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800
loss?
Like every life is precious, but

449
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,680
when you're fighting a battle, I
always wonder, is there

450
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,480
something that we're not getting
there's?

451
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,080
Something.
That we don't understand how it

452
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,480
was passed down or something.
Or maybe they didn't lose anyone

453
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,720
in Jericho and they just assumed
we would never lose any life.

454
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,600
I don't know.
Yeah, those are really good

455
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,320
questions.
Maybe we'll talk maybe as as we

456
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,680
kind of go through, but I think
it's good to frame it this way

457
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960
too.
Joshua is less about, you know,

458
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,200
we think about the promised one.
It's not how did Israel win, but

459
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,280
what kind of God keeps his
promises?

460
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,480
What kind of people dwell with
God in the promised land

461
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,040
thinking big picture.
So the difference between a

462
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,880
history book and this prophet
preaching paradigm.

463
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280
Another thing I like to think
about, I think it applies to a

464
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,600
lot of Old Testament is man
centered versus God centered

465
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,240
because I think the temptation
is David, Joshua, Moses, like

466
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,560
these were and they were great
men.

467
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,800
You don't want to minimize that,
but they.

468
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,840
Had failings.
They they had failings.

469
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,160
Yeah, you could totally make it
like man, Joshua did everything

470
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,880
right.
But really the point of Joshua

471
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:11,040
is what what did God do?
That's we get to the end of

472
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,960
Joshua.
So Moses, great leader, we get

473
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,680
to the end of Deuteronomy.
It's a little bit depressing.

474
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,320
You know, same thing with Josh.
We get to the end of it and

475
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,880
you're kind of like you meant
some judges.

476
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,840
That's not good.
It's like even though they were

477
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,400
great and God was faithful, they
can't, they're not initiate.

478
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,400
Ezra, Nehemiah we talked about
did not initiate all this

479
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,760
change.
It's like you kind of want and

480
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,440
hope for more.
Yeah, I always remember, I know

481
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,240
this is not judges, but I always
remember being younger and

482
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,080
reading that phrase and everyone
did write what was in their own

483
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200
eyes and thought, OK, they're
doing their best.

484
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Like they're they're doing much
right.

485
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,200
They may have some
misunderstandings.

486
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,280
And you know, as I've gotten
older, I've come to realize

487
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,400
that.
That's that's good.

488
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,360
That's not a good thing.
Yeah, some of these phrases,

489
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:51,600
that's great.
Along those lines, Joshua's,

490
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,760
there's a it's a lot of
narrative.

491
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,840
Sometimes that can be
challenging to be like, what's

492
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,720
that mean for me?
That does that mean if I I can

493
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,760
just conquer, I can just get my
sword out on military conquer?

494
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280
That'll be good to talk through.
We mentioned these supposed

495
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,200
problems of God telling them to
kill thousands of people, moral

496
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,320
and ethical challenges.
I think it's good to think of

497
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,560
this book this way.
And this this author of this

498
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,120
book, Joshua Dale, Ralph Davis,
he's Presbyterian and I think

499
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,600
he's got good insight when he
says things like, you know, this

500
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,200
book teaches us a lot about
things like heaven and hell, sin

501
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800
and salvation that at the core
we talked about Joshua in the

502
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,400
name.
It's really about Jesus and

503
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,800
applies to to us that what
Israel needed was not just a

504
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,400
plot of land where to live
because they kind of get the

505
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,560
land, they settle the land, but
they still die because of sins.

506
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Curse what they still need Jesus
to come, right?

507
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,320
They're looking forward to a
cross.

508
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,120
They're looking forward to a new
heavens and a new earth.

509
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,960
And Joshua kind of gets the
story going a little bit, but it

510
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,520
makes us really long for that
eschatology that that that ends

511
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,120
reality where we have this
expectation for this promised

512
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:03,960
land, for this rest, where
everything will be right.

513
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,520
So I think it's good to try to
we, everyone knows Joshua to

514
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,040
some extent.
Most of us probably do.

515
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760
Where does it fit?
Where does this idea?

516
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,960
I think Joshua talks a lot about
promised land, inheritance,

517
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,640
these kind of things.
Where do we, you know, see that

518
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,100
in the broader biblical context?
What was like the quote UN

519
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,760
quote, first promised land or
where was the good rest?

520
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Where did that start?
And we could probably back up

521
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,320
and people, you know, a lot of
times go to like Abraham.

522
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,680
But even going like before
Abraham, going like Adam and

523
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,400
Eve, they were in like the
promised land, so to speak,

524
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,320
right?
Yeah, yeah.

525
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,640
They dwelt.
All the four different rivers

526
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,360
wonder where that is.
I know, man, let's go find it.

527
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,280
I bet people just aren't looking
hard enough.

528
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,560
You know, we know a couple of
those rivers, right?

529
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760
So we could we could figure it
out.

530
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,680
But anyway, we think of I I and
we'll see this in our next

531
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,200
series.
We'll try to tie it together

532
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,040
with some of Genesis and never,
I mean with Abraham, but before

533
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,480
Abraham there was Adam.
I think thinking about that is

534
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,200
pivotal where it's like bigger
even than the Abraham story goes

535
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,360
like Eden, promised land, the
fall and like we kind of long

536
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,240
for that.
We see that revelation and

537
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760
Abraham and Joshua was a great
picture of this and is very

538
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600
important, but it's like it's
even bigger than that, you know?

539
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,400
So anyway, a lot of things that
we'll talk about rest, covenant

540
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600
obedience, how the Lord judges,
how the Lord fights for his

541
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560
people.
And then as we probably know,

542
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,200
it's like the land is never like
fully conquered or settled.

543
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280
It's like it's there for the
taking and it's just like we

544
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240
don't get it.
We don't get it until when?

545
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,520
The All the land, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

546
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,240
That's.
Hey, we're still, we're still,

547
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,480
we're still waiting, huh?
So big things to think about.

548
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Let's let's talk a little bit in
our time left about dating

549
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760
historical background for
Joshua, 'cause I think this is

550
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,120
really interesting.
You know, you ask, ask, you ask

551
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,120
like critical scholars, all,
all, you know, the liberal side

552
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,560
of things.
They're just like, who knows?

553
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Like it was written millions, I
mean, you know, hundreds of

554
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,520
years afterward.
At some point, you have to think

555
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,280
that Joshua wrote at least a
good point.

556
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,720
I think that's a good way to
think about it.

557
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Yeah.
If you're thinking like 2000s

558
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,000
Abraham, 1500s like Moses,
you're probably in that. 1000 is

559
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,560
David.
Yeah, so 14.

560
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,360
I think that's a good way.
It depends on where you date.

561
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,880
Like I don't, I'm not.
I wonder, I have not done a lot

562
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,680
of study on it.
Like where is Moses?

563
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,880
Which Pharaoh is Moses, You
know, it's kind of hard to know

564
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,880
exactly, but I think.
Maybe 13 to 80.

565
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Yeah, I, I think broad picture
thinking, yeah, it's like you

566
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,280
can quibble about 100 years here
or there, but.

567
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,800
But where do critical scholars
put it?

568
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480
Or they just don't.
Say they'll be like it was

569
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,120
probably totally constructed
after exile, like it's like.

570
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:51,440
They don't think it's a real
book or.

571
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,720
Yeah, they don't.
It certainly Joshua wasn't

572
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,760
writing anything, certainly.
So if you if you you know most,

573
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,680
if you're conservative, who the
Bible is inspired and errands

574
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
and if you don't come back at
the the Tolman, what rabbis

575
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760
would say?
Joshua wrote a lot of it.

576
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,960
And then Eleazar and Eleazar son
Phineas probably filled in the

577
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000
gaps of Joshua died.
And there's some things that say

578
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720
like even up until this day,
like they're probably writing

579
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,960
that part of it this day.
They might be filling in some of

580
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,240
the gaps and maybe it all wasn't
completed, you know, a little

581
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960
bit after that.
But probably, you know, in that

582
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,240
time frame, this is where the
pushback comes this phrase to

583
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,640
this day.
Like what's that mean?

584
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,320
So some, so the liberal people
would say like all that was

585
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,240
written there.
It's not like, you know, filling

586
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,280
an already existing document,
maybe like, you know, filling

587
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,960
that a little bit.
Hebrews 11/21 talks about Joshua

588
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,600
or yeah, Hebrew, the Hebrew text
of Joshua 1121 distinguishes

589
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760
between Israel and Judah.
So some people are like, OK, if

590
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,360
they're making that distinction,
it does have to come at least

591
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,240
where the the Kingdom split.
So, you know, there, there's

592
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,000
some of that there.
So what we can say is that the

593
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,040
latest possible date of
completion suggests that the

594
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,400
author of Kings relied on the
book of Joshua.

595
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,760
So that's like the latest,
whoever's writing.

596
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,240
Kings used Joshua's like, source
material, so it could not have

597
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800
been finished later than that.
You know what I mean?

598
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That make that makes sense.

599
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,720
And part of this, the thing from
what I understood, and correct

600
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
me if you've read something
different, but I've heard that

601
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,360
like there was this the priest
that kind of kept up these

602
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:32,040
chronicles and you know, like
you're saying Joshua could have

603
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,560
written 85% of it and then you
have some stuff filled in.

604
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,920
But even I'm trying to think
like this distinction between

605
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,680
like Judah and Israel.
It could have.

606
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,840
There was already, you know,
that that's the different tribes

607
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800
and early before they even split
because you know, that's true

608
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,160
when Saul was king of, you know,
he was just of the southern

609
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,080
tribes and all of it and stuff.
And so I don't know.

610
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Yeah, I think people can get
bent out of shape where I think,

611
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,760
you know, I think we can safely
say Joshua wrote a lot of this.

612
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,240
And so if you're thinking about
this too, I think it's good.

613
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
You know, what was the original
audience of Joshua?

614
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200
I think this is fascinating
that, you know, probably was

615
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,320
people of Joshua's day.
But a lot of it's probably that

616
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400
generate a lot of people in the
time of the judge a little bit

617
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,480
after Joshua are probably
reading this and seeing what

618
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,640
happened.
It's like a warning

619
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
disobedience.
This is what comes to get like

620
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,960
it's kind of like man, that was
like for those people a lot

621
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000
because you they're probably
reading about God being

622
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
faithful.
They did get this promised land

623
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,760
and that they're starting to
look like these Pagan nations

624
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,480
that they read that that God
commanded.

625
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080
We need to utterly destroy this.
That's like what Israel is now

626
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,720
doing.
Like what?

627
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,080
A warning.
Like what would that be like

628
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,680
reading that, you know?
If they had read it.

629
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,920
If they yeah and applied, it's
like almost you're in America,

630
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,240
you know, you can read it today
and be like, oh, we're maybe not

631
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080
doing everything we're supposed
to do.

632
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,960
But big picture, probably 14113
hundred something in there is is

633
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,920
the chronological events and
probably written fairly close to

634
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,360
that time where maybe an editor
did final touches, you know, 600

635
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040
or 800 or something.
BC and the Hebrews definitely

636
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720
had a language that was.
Separate for sure, for sure.

637
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Egyptian Moses, Pharaoh's
daughter, knew that Moses was

638
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600
the Hebrew when she found him.
That's right, yeah.

639
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Yeah, so.
There had to be subject for no

640
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,440
other.
Reasons then he was circumcised

641
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,880
because he would have been
circumcised, but you know that

642
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080
I, I found a Hebrew child go get
a nurse for me, that type of

643
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240
thing.
Moses would have been trained

644
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,640
and I I wonder if he learned to
speak Egyptian and then he

645
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,320
wasn't as good as Hebrew and
that's what he was

646
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,520
communicating.
Oh, that's very.

647
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Interesting.
Yeah.

648
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640
I, I, you know, I can speak it,
but I'm not eloquent.

649
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Totally.
Well, here's your brother Aaron.

650
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680
He can speak for you type of
thing, but he would have spent

651
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,080
close, maybe not fully even 30
years around Joshua before he

652
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,160
died.
Right.

653
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Yeah, yeah.
Right.

654
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Plenty of time to if Joshua, you
know, for him to like bring him

655
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,520
under his wing.
If Joshua didn't know how to

656
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
write, that's a that's a long
time for an adult that you could

657
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,640
learn how to write.
Totally learn.

658
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Yeah, I'm, I'm training you how
to be a scribe type of thing.

659
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,720
So it's not.
Like it's this far fetched,

660
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,240
Yeah.
Right.

661
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Yeah, It seems reasonable that
Joshua could could do these

662
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600
things.
If we look, I'm borrowing this

663
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,160
outline from the ESP Study
Bible.

664
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,640
It might offend you, Michael,
but they frame the outline all

665
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,360
around the promised land and
this inheritance, something

666
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200
they'll look for and that that's
kind of the more or less the

667
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,320
approach I'm taking here.
Chapters one through 5 talks a

668
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560
little about crossing into the
promised land.

669
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,200
Chapters 6 through 12.
East to West.

670
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,240
And there you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

671
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,960
That's that comes up a lot, you
know, like the the they had to

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,680
go around Jordan and yeah, all
all this stuff. 6 to 12 talks

673
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,720
about the actual taking of the
land.

674
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Then 13 through 21, this is
where people start to check out.

675
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,840
I think large, large swaths of
text that's dividing the land,

676
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,480
it can get it.
Can get challenging, right?

677
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,400
They rode lots, they rode lots,
and it's like, how many lots are

678
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,120
we rolling?
Keep it going and then 22

679
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,080
through 24 serving the Lord in
the land.

680
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000
So kind of all based around the
land.

681
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,400
I think there's a lot we can
glean from this.

682
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760
I'm excited to get into it.
Anything major?

683
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,000
So I don't you said the series,
but I don't know if we said this

684
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600
is the first of a series.
We should say this.

685
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Yeah, in, in Joshua.
I don't know how, maybe like 5

686
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,480
weeks, six weeks, something like
that probably.

687
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Yeah.
So based on our tracker with

688
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,680
Paul, that means really there's
20.

689
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,560
It means weeks.
Originally I was going to do

690
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680
this intro and then one for
crossing into the land, 2 for

691
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960
taking the land, 3 for dividing
the land, 4 for serving the

692
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520
Lord.
I might have like in the

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200
crossing until I might have
divided that up into two, so it

694
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,480
might start to grow a little bit
but in that ball, but hopefully

695
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
not more like about. 10 On
dividing up the land we should

696
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,920
do.
We're going to go heavy on the

697
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,440
lots.
Yeah, we're going to map it all

698
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,680
out.
You're going to be an expert,

699
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,360
yeah.
So what I hear is that as your

700
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,400
two youngest sons get older.
Oh yeah, yeah.

701
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Like if they're playing
basketball, if your younger 1,

702
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,320
you know, you know, doesn't
move, it could be Joshua's

703
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,040
crossing over Jordan, you know
what I'm saying?

704
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880
That's the dream.
That's why we named him that.

705
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Just the set up that.
Moment.

706
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,920
So that's good.
That's good.

707
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Well, that's great.
I'm excited to get into it.

708
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Next week we'll get into the 1st
chapter and I've got, I'm going

709
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,080
to frame it at the beginning of
it a little bit different than

710
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,400
me.
I'm going to steal from this guy

711
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,800
here.
He does a wonderful way that's

712
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,320
like a little bit out of the
norm.

713
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Do we need to talk to you about
council?

714
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,040
You on stealing?
Steal.

715
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Yeah, that's right.
And honestly, there's there's

716
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,960
nothing done to the.
Sun right, that's Steelers

717
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,520
jersey on that's.
Great.

718
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,280
I love it.
Well, anything else you want to

719
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,720
say?
That's all.

720
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Yeah.
All right, that's our take.

721
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,240
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722
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560
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