Overcome Evil With Good | Romans 12:14-21

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All right, Zach, I know this
song might be.

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Oh man.
A little bit old for you if you

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were a little young when this
came out, but I'm sure you're

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familiar with Alanis
Morissette's Ironic.

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Classic, yeah.
And she has all these things in

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there that are not actually.
That's a common misconception.

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Yeah, yeah, kind of just
coincidence, maybe even bad

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luck, but not ironic.
But like this one, Like where

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the guy he was 98, he won the
lottery but but died the next

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day, where you know you it's a
free ride when you've already

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paid.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I was thinking we we could
probably add a line to that,

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like something like, I don't
know, like free coffee for a

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year, but it's horrible coffee.
Wow, shots.

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I I do agree.
I think, I think this coffee

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chain you're referencing is from
New England and there's some,

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there's some sketchy things.
I'm I'm right there with you.

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Hey, I, you know, yeah, I, I
would see their press

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conferences all the time.
I'd be like, I like it, but I

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don't like that coffee or their
Donuts actually.

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Honestly their Donuts are not
good.

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That's I used to work in a donut
shop.

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I know my stuff.
Dunkin' Donuts to work in a

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donut shop.
Oh, my neighbor owned a donut.

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Shop.
I never know.

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This I'm like the donut master.
So did this where your addiction

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to Donuts began.
Yeah, it's a It's a long

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slippery slope into an
addiction.

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So this was like a locally
owned.

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Yeah, my my neighbor owned his
family, his dad actually in like

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3 or 4 shops.
This is in Memphis.

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This is in Memphis.
Howard's Donuts.

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Howard's Donuts.
Were they good Donuts?

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They were great.
Were they cake Donuts like the?

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We did.
We did yeast stand cake, yeast

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stand cake and back in the day,
man, when I started working

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there when I was 15 and a dozen
of yeast Donuts were like 599.

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It just, man, you can't do that
today, right?

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Yeah.
Cake Donuts were like maybe 650

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or it was like actually, no,
5:49 and 6:49.

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We raised prices to 599699.
You thought the world was

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ending.
We had like these old timers who

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would come in and like pay with
the exact change and the day I

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had to tell them they were like
$0.50 short.

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Oh man, like.
What are?

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You doing to me, Sunny, that?
Their world view was rocked.

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Yeah, yeah.
So when I got this text, that

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was some some story about you
walking.

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Yeah. 4:30 in the snow.
In the snow, uphill.

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Both ways.
Barefoot.

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To get this, did you have to
stand in line at Duncan?

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I'll.
I'll tell you the story.

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So my my neighborhood there is
Dunkin' Donuts that just opened.

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Grand opening was this past
Wednesday.

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If you were one of the 1st 100
customers, you win Free Duncan

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for a year.
It just so happened that the day

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it opened.
Was this snowstorm shut down?

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Charleston and so I, I was going
to go on a work flight later

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that day, assuming it was
cancelled.

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I, you know, just were waking up
early and I was checking my

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phone was like, oh, it's
cancelled.

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And I saw on social media, one
of my neighbors was like, hey,

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we're, we've been waiting in
line since like 3:30 this

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morning, but there's still only
20 people here and it's 445.

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Like if you this is I mean.
If you hustle.

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If you hustle.
You'll be in the top 100.

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And I looked down, I was like, I
don't know.

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And I woke Leanne like woke up
because I was just tossing and

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turning.
But she's like, you honestly

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should go.
And so I got out.

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It was in walking distance.
It was it's maybe like 1/4 of a

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mile from my house.
Walked there.

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I got there right at 5, maybe
like 458.

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So I was.
In line and.

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They opened at 5:00 and I was
maybe like 50 or 60th in line.

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So I still have to wait 'cause
it take apparently it takes 20

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minutes to process 60 people in
front of you.

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But got my free Duncan for you.
But you hate Duncan.

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What's the story there?
Well, I just don't like their

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coffee.
And so I got this.

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The, the girl sent me like the
screenshot of I guess Leanne's

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Instagram story or something.
And I was like, well, I mean,

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it's not very good.
And they're like it.

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It can be.
It really depends on the

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barista.
If you, if you get a good

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barista and you choose the right
stuff and you get this type of

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fru fru stuff.
And I'm like, I am talking about

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like the straight up coffee.
Just straight up.

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No added stuff.
I don't know if I've met that

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many people that just like, do
not like Dunkin.

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What I've heard is that if you
like Starbucks, you probably

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don't like Dunkin, and if you
like Dunkin you probably don't

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like Starbucks, and that there's
probably some people that don't

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care, they'll just drink coffee
from anywhere.

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I happen to really like
Starbucks.

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I like Pike's.
Place, Yeah.

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That dark burnt stuff.
And I know some people are like,

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that's garbage.
Yeah, yeah, I don't like it.

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It's over roasted.
It's too.

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Hey, I get it.
You're like, you know, those

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Boston, you know, coffee makers
don't know what they're doing.

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I heard you.
Yeah, I I mean they those don't

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and.
I'll tell you this too, when you

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say you want free coffee for a
year, that sounds pretty

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awesome.
What you actually win is you get

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a free drink like once a week,
but it's still but it's but but

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you know, so it's not like I
can't just walk and be like,

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Hey, I'll take the usual.
And it's like on the House.

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It's like I've got to use my
they give you like these coupon

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books that I'm like, those are
valuable.

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This lady who just has a hundred
of these, you can get like

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robbed if someone got that.
There's like so much money in

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the.
Now, does it specify what kind

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of coffee it is?
Or yeah, there are limitations.

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You literally have to get a
medium hot or iced coffee or hot

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or iced tea.
So you can't get certain

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specialty drinks.
It's got to be like normal you.

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Can't get the ones that they put
enough sugar in that they taste

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good.
Dude, they put Dunkin, that's

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one thing.
Dunkin, if you just say like I

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want a shot of any liquid, any
type of sweetener, they put so

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much in there.
It's almost like too much 'cause

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we, I was doing it with Leanne,
I normally will get just like a

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hot coffee and we're like, well,
I shouldn't do that 'cause

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there's that's like the cheapest
thing you can get.

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So she's using them for like
this, you know, she gets

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something and it's like, oh,
with all these things, but it's

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like so.
You do get Duncan on the

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regular.
Honestly I usually get Starbucks

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on the regular.
I'm not anti Duncan, I just

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don't do it quite as much.
But you know and.

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What's your order from
Starbucks?

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Starbucks I I, I almost always
get a tall Pike Place without

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fail.
Every now and then I'll get a

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blonde roast, but normally I
stay Pike Place and that's they

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just always have that going.
And do you add anything to it?

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Just straight, just straight,
straight up like a man.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's that's good

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stuff, yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's great.

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So yeah.
You know, Duncan for a year, not

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that you don't even care.
You're like, you feel sorry for

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me.
You're like, oh, he's got to.

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Drink that.
He's got to, you know, maybe

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Leanne can drink that for him.
But never have you anything like

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that before?
Like were you?

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No, not that I can think of.
I mean, I won the lottery on

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life, you know.
That's a great way.

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Well, you know, didn't mean to
monopolize the whole the whole

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banter there.
No, that's good.

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That's good.
Well, I would just say we

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should, we should say something
about Snowmageddon.

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Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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'Cause I pulled in today, so
it's Sunday.

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It's been above freezing for a
couple days now and they're

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still like work shadow.
It's still pretty slick.

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I pulled in and I wasn't going
fast, but I wasn't going slow.

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It was just kind of my normal.
And I was like, oh, I should

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park where this ice is so that,
you know, so someone else

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doesn't have to like, I'll take
this parking spot.

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I pulled in and then my car, I
was already slowing down, but my

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truck, just like it was not
slowing down fast.

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I was like, I'm about to kiss
the, you know, the my truck was

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about to just barely touch it,
but I stopped soon enough.

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So it was.
It's still pretty.

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Slick I almost coming home from
home groups.

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I almost fell fell.
I like I like the like sliding,

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but I cut my balance.
Out there on the walkway.

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On the walkway, yeah, 'cause I
wasn't paying attention and.

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And it's like.
I almost put one of those potted

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plants there 'cause just so that
people would and everyone was

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like, no, but people can see
that there's ice there, but

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apparently the physical
therapist can't, apparently.

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Apparently can't.
Well, you know, I guess you hate

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Duncan so much you need to work
on overcoming evil with good.

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You should.
You should.

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You should be nice to Duncan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'll be nice and leave.
Leave the room for the wrath of

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God on Duncan.
Is that what you're saying?

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That's the title of the sermon
Overcome Evil with Good, Romans

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1214 through 21.
Let's take it to the next level.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level, last.
Sermon in Romans 12 last.

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Sermon in Romans 12.
We're going to be looking at

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government, I guess next.
Isn't that 13 is?

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Mostly government.
Yeah, man, it's been a chapter.

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12's been a great 1, you know.
It's it's really good, like you

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read through and you and you.
I've studied through Romans a

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couple times, so it's always
good to get, you know, just

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this, you know, slow,
inevitable, thorough March

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through Romans to kind of remind
yourself of of the book.

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So that's good.
And we, you know, beginning of

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the book more than the beginning
of the book.

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We're all we're all doctrine all
day and we're just hit that

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hinge points.
No, that's good.

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Yeah.
And I, I, I liked how Joel put

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it.
He said we went from the riches

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that we have in Christ to the
responsibilities we have in

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light of those riches in Christ.
So I thought that was good, the

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phraseology that.
That is great.

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We started and versus one and
two, these familiar versus that

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you know you it's your
reasonable service.

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You're the rational thing to do
is is to worship God and and

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we're not to be conformed, but
transformed by renewing.

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Am I kind of setting the stage
for everything else in in Romans

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12?
Yep.

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And then right after that
probably telling Paul says, hey,

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you got spiritual gifts, use
them humbly for others.

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And so that's upfront.
And then we go into this section

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and Joel kind of treats 9
through 21 as one larger

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section.
But we went 9 through 13 last

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week talking about loving
without hypocrisy.

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And we had those 13 commands
that kind of went boom, boom,

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boom do do all these things that
if you look at them loving

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without hypocrisy can kind of be
an organizing theme through

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those commands as as they go
through.

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Yeah, this is good.
It's just like jam packed.

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And that leads us to, you know,
the second-half of the next

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paragraph, 14 to 21, you know,
how to without hypocrisy, you

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might say, you know, love friend
and foe.

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You can love, love everyone.
Here's some, some ways we can.

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And then we transition into this
prepare to stand article, which

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I thought was pretty
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I'm trying to think through it
and understand it.

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And I, I, my question was we
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It basically talks about
different stages of persecution.

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I wonder what other groups in
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And it's just such a it is such
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I got a lot of thoughts here
with politics and with, I think

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like most of our recent
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I'm Christian, I believe the
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But yet there is, you know, it's
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know how many other countries
would be like wish I had a

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Christian president or but there
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And so if it's like regional and
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to think through.
It's not ubiquitous, totally.

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You have 50 different states
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governments.
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thought each state, well before
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the Constitution, they were
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countries that kind of came
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thought of them all as just 13
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going to kind of be bounded
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government.
And like you said, there's you

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can probably talk to a Muslim
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things have happened to me or an
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especially since Trump is in.
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All these have happened to me or
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So there's not like, it's like
you said, it's not like there is

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a what's the order I'm looking
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There are, you know, we're a

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very large country and there's
pockets of thought and, you

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know, local ideas around
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But I think, you know, when you
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of persecution, you could see,
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Has happened to.
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in some places.
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not like it's, you know,
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Yeah, no, no, it's good.
I don't want to make this about

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that.
I was like, just looking on

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Wikipedia presidents because
like, yeah, we haven't had a

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Baptist president since Bill
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So it's been a while since we've
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office, Bill.
Clinton and Jimmy Carter I think

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were the last.
Were the other only two

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Baptists?
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had that have no formal
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Christian explicitly Thomas
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If you're, you know Abraham
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Andrew Johnson is according to
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I don't know if this is accurate
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interesting.
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have the lion's share where you
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are are are lacking here.
But anyway, Catholic and and

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Catholic, we've got we've got
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Oh, Joe Biden.
Yeah, I forgot it.

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Yeah, you know, like I forgot
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Forgot that he even had any type
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Did I just say that?
Is it OK to say?

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I, I think it's fine.
But anyway, I know that's not

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the point, but I thought that
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because I think it is so
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work in or, or who you come
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deal and who's in the courts.
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thing, but I think you're right.
You know, we see these

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persecution.
Should we read the five

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audience?
So these five are kind of like

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steps.
Like first you'll see this and

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then you'll see this.
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stereotyping of the target group
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different than the norm.
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target group as harmful to
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So in stereotyping, you might
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Christians are superstitious,
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you know, you know, all churches
just want your money.

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All churches are hypocritical.
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vilifying is where they target
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Christians are against human
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You know, they're opposed to
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They're intolerant, homophobic.
Marginalizing is when the group

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influences the group's influence
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So you might see someone say
something like, since Christians

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are harmful, faith and Christmas
trees must be kept in private

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and excluded from education.
You know, we don't want to say

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Merry Christmas, we say happy
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criminalizing the target group
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So you might see if you're a
Christian and you refuse to bake

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a cake or do a wedding or for
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we're going to punish you and
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Thankfully, I think there was a
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they kind of got some ground.
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they take some time to go up to
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But from what I've seen, the
Supreme Court is like, no, you

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know, by conscious they can
refuse to do if if there, you

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know, there's certain, I think
rules that go along with that,

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but.
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It's nice to see, like, pendulum
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things are getting crazy.
It's like, OK, people are

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understanding a little bit,
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So Christians must be removed
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punished jail to those types of
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So yeah.
Wow, wow, so you know, something

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good to good to think through on
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I think Bible study the ladies
in our church are going through

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are just you know what, what do
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You know, are you preparing now
to stand, say things, get to

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that, that level?
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where you get into the great
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Jesus says the world hated me.
They're going to hate you in

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this world.
You're going to have

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tribulation, but take hope.
I've overcome the world.

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So we should expect, we probably
should expect more persecution,

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though we, we.
Probably should.

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I think we're probably very
fortunate when you can at all

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things being being considered.
So that's a good introduction to

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get us into our text, which is
these verses 14 through 21 when

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we just read through these.
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That'd be great.
Bless those who persecute you.

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Bless and do not curse.
Rejoice with those who rejoice

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and weep with those who weep.
Be of the same mind toward one

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another.
Do not be haughty in mind, but

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associate with the lowly.
Do not be wise in your own

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estimation.
Never pay back evil for evil to

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anyone.
Respect what is right in the

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sight of all men, if possible,
so far as it depends on you, be

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at peace with all men.
Never take your own revenge,

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beloved, but leave room for the
wrath of God, for it's written,

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vengeance is mine.
I will repay, says the Lord.

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But if your enemy is hungry,
feed him.

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Maybe if he is thirsty, give him
a drink, for in doing so you

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will heap burning coals on his
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Do not be overcome by evil, but
overcome evil with good.

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No, that's, that's really good.
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Those those are easy to say,
sometimes difficult to do.

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Yes.
Verse 14 starts off bless those

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who persecute you.
Bless and do not curse.

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Bless is this Greek word
eulogate, something very similar

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to that.
You may, if you said it right,

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you might hear the word
eulogize.

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Yeah, which you know you the
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And Lagos is the word for word,
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But it to bless someone is to
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bless them.
And so we're supposed to speak

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well of those who persecute us.
Not, not an easy thing to do.

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No, not not easy at all.
And I like what Pastor Joel is

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doing in the sermon.
He's going to go to these

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different places in the New
Testament show where, you know,

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we see these other other authors
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We're in Matthew 5, Sermon on
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And Jesus is saying, you've
heard that it said you shall

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love your neighbor and hate your
enemy.

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But I say to you, we'll love
your enemies and pray for those

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who persecute you so that you
may be sons of your Father who

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was in heaven.
For He causes his Son to rise on

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the evil, and the good and sins
reign on the righteous and the

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unrighteous.
For if you love those who love

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you, what reward do you have?
Do not even the tax collectors

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do the same?
If you agree only your brothers,

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what more are you doing than
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Do not even the Gentiles do the
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Therefore, you are to be perfect
as your heavenly Father is

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perfect.
High standard.

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That's very high.
Those last words, boy, that,

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that is stuff.
And we also, if you want to read

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this, Michael, we see some
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Yeah.
So another person, you know, not

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Paul, Stephen, is being martyred
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And it says when they had driven
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stoning him.
And the witnesses laid aside

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their robes at the feet of a
young man named Saul.

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They went on stoning Stephen as
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Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Then falling on his knees, he

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cried out with a loud voice,
Lord, do not hold the sin

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against them.
Having said this, he fell

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asleep.
And so we see this witness of a

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guy who is giving.
He's not even asking the Lord to

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take vengeance.
He's saying, forgive these

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folks.
And we have Saint Augustine

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saying that the church owes
Paul, obviously, to the

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sovereignty of God, but in the
human standpoint, to the prayer

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of Stephen.
Because, yeah, it probably it

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would have had to have been some
type of cognitive dissonance in

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Paul's mind to see what's going
on and go.

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It didn't really seem like, you
know, what I thought was going

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to happen.
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Yeah, that, that, that that's
pretty crazy.

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I like, I like Pastor Jill
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That brings us to verse 15.
Rejoice with those who rejoice

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and weep with those who weep.
We see, you know, kind of

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empathy in action.
And Pastor Joel, you know, it's

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I think it's easy to read this
and they're all a bunch of

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disconnected thoughts.
But he's like, let's keep these

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connected.
Think about this in light of

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verse 14.
Would that mean we rejoice and

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weep even with our enemies?
That, you know, raises the

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standard a little bit more,
right?

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Yeah, yeah.
I'm just distracted right now.

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Sorry, I just showed Michael
some bad news.

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Yeah, yeah.
So you're going to weep with me,

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right?
Yeah, that's.

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Exactly.
That's exactly, yeah.

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Yeah, and so we read in Proverbs
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Do not rejoice when your enemy
falls, and do not let your heart

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be glad when he stumbles, or the
Lord will see it and be

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displeased and turn his anger
away from him.

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So not good.
Not, not good.

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And then Pastor Joel coming back
to to Jesus, he made this

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connection.
You know, if you look in in the

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book of John, the first miracle
Jesus performed water into wine.

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Which is actually one of the
first lines of our first song

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today.
Wow.

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Water he turned into wine.
Man, that that, yeah, all the

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connections there, you know?
And then one of the final

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miracles, we see him raising
Lazarus.

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And so with the water into wine,
there's great rejoicing.

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They're at a wedding.
This is great.

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You know, the good wines here.
And then there's weeping as

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Jesus weeps for for his friend.
Jesus wept this, you know very

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very short Bible verse but you
see both of these things

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expressed in Jesus ministry.
So what, you know, based on the

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bad news, you, you just gave me.
So just think back to, you know,

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the, you know, beginning, you
know, we're rejoicing around

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Super Bowl 495153 earlier, but
we're weeping now as the Chiefs

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move on to play in the Super
Bowl again.

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00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,280
So yeah, will will mourn and and
give God room for vengeance on

450
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,440
on the that.
Pastor did say at some point in

451
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,840
the sermon, don't pray in
preparatory prayers for people.

452
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,440
I'm not sure Michael won't be
praying those over Patrick,

453
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,440
Patrick Mahomes.
I'm just kidding.

454
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,640
Verse 16, Paul writes, be of the
same mind toward one another.

455
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720
Do not be haughty in mind, but
associate with the lowly.

456
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Don't be wise in your own
estimation.

457
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:38,320
We see this words of haughtiness
associated with the lowly.

458
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,920
Big take away is be humble.
Yep, and I mean this theme is

459
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,920
all throughout scripture.
You couldn't hardly go to a book

460
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,760
and not find some reference to
it, but maybe one of the, you

461
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,120
know, foundational passages,
Philippians 2 it there's, you

462
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,440
know, the whole opening is on
this, but you know, in three and

463
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,200
four.
He says, do nothing from selfish

464
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,360
or empty conceit, but with
humility of mine regard one

465
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,320
another is more important than
yourselves.

466
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040
Do not merely look for your own
personal interests, but also for

467
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,040
the interests of others.
Very good that's a good passages

468
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,440
to have on the ready all all the
time being being humble.

469
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,320
If we transition to verse 17.
Never pay back evil for evil to

470
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,960
anyone respect what is right in
the sight of not just some men

471
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,760
but all men.
He's kind of bringing this

472
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000
theme.
Enemies and friends, it's

473
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,800
everyone.
Right.

474
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,800
Yeah.
And you know, Joel has some well

475
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,760
timed illustrations to kind of
bring you back up and had this

476
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,440
one of the mother with two kids,
She's in the kitchen, she hears

477
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,000
some screaming.
She goes in and she sees this

478
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,080
girl pulling this her, her
brother's hair.

479
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520
And she's like, hey, you just
need to be patient with her.

480
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,280
She doesn't know what that feels
like.

481
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,920
Probably you always like the
things that you would, you would

482
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,160
say.
And so she goes back, and soon

483
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,520
enough she hears and comes back
in and the son says she knows

484
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,440
what it feels like now, right?
He's not he's not wrong, just

485
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,120
trying to, you know, help her
experience, you know, the white

486
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,080
help her empathize with how he
was feeling.

487
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,120
We turn to first Peter 3 verse 8
through 12 where Peter writes to

488
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,400
sum up all of you.
Be harmonious, sympathetic,

489
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,640
brotherly, kind hearted, and
humble in spirit, not returning

490
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,840
evil for evil or insult for
insult, but giving a blessing

491
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760
instead.
For you are called for the very

492
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,520
purpose that you might inherit a
blessing.

493
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,920
For the one who desires life to
love and seek good days must

494
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,120
keep his tongue from evil and
his loaves from speaking deceit.

495
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,240
He must turn away from evil and
do good.

496
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,080
He must seek peace and pursue
it.

497
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960
For the eyes of the Lord or to
the righteous, and his ears

498
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,400
attended their prayer, but the
face of the Lord is against

499
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,000
those who do evil.
And this is coming from a guy

500
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,320
who, you know, maybe did not
always act that way.

501
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Yeah, yeah.
And you wonder how, you know,

502
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,280
his past choices help motivate
him here.

503
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,880
But, you know, this is a guy
that pulled out the sword, cut

504
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,680
off the the dude's ear in the
garden.

505
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,880
And Jesus, you know, he must
have had some gorilla super glue

506
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,680
with them, put it right back on.
And I was like, hey, we don't

507
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,720
need that.
Whoever you know, we live by the

508
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920
sword, dies by the sword, so.
One of my favorite parts of the

509
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,720
sermon pastors went Ching Ching.
He's like charades and we all

510
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,440
knew what he's talking about.
Right, yeah.

511
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,360
And you know, Pastor says don't
be a vigilante, so.

512
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040
Feel like I should order that
next month at Dunkin' Donuts.

513
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,440
I'll take a vigilante.
Vigilante, it seems like it

514
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
seems so yeah.
Don't take any groups tonight.

515
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,680
Kelly was like, I thought I
learned it wrong.

516
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,720
But yeah, vigilante happens to
be 1 of Chloe's favorite words.

517
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,160
I don't know how.
Oh wow, we should power like top

518
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,480
five words one day just to say
that 'cause that, that I think

519
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,640
vigilante's a good word.
But don't take matters into your

520
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,280
own hands, right?
18 if possible so far just

521
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,560
depends on you.
Be at peace with all men and he.

522
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,480
He uses Daniel as a good example
towards the end of his life.

523
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,760
You know, those, his kind of
fellow governors get together,

524
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120
they create this law.
Hey, don't pray to anyone except

525
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,200
for the king.
There's no compromise there.

526
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,560
There's no way to find peace
there.

527
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,680
He's going to still pray and God
finds him through that towards

528
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,800
the beginning of his time in
Babylon.

529
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,280
You know, he's given the the
King's food and he's like, I

530
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,880
can't, can't do this.
Like we need to stick true to

531
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040
our laws.
If you can give us food, that

532
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,080
would be what we would today
call kosher.

533
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800
And you know, there's some
concerns that, hey, let's do do

534
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,200
a trial.
I don't know if it's like 7

535
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,680
days, 10 days, if we're no worse
for where and if it turns out

536
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840
they actually look better than
the other ones, then then he

537
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,440
kept it and so he was able to
find peace there.

538
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,880
But yes, if if it's possible,
we, we are to live at peace with

539
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,840
others.
Yeah, I like that.

540
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,880
Both sides of the coin, because
yeah, sometimes it's not an

541
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,320
option.
But when it is an option, I

542
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,400
think sometimes we make it not
an option.

543
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,720
When it, when it when there
might be some, we don't even try

544
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,280
toward a solution.
That takes us to verse 19.

545
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,120
Never take your own revenge,
beloved, but leave room for the

546
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,640
wrath of God, for it's written,
vengeance is mine.

547
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,200
I will repay, says the Lord and
pastors another call back to

548
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,760
first Peter chapter 221 through
23, which says for you have been

549
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240
called for this purpose since
Christ also suffered for you,

550
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,160
leaving you an example for you
to follow in his steps.

551
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Who committed no sin, nor was
any deceit found in his mouth.

552
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720
And while being reviled he did
not revile in return.

553
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,640
While suffering, he uttered no
threats, but kept entrusting

554
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,520
himself to him who judges
righteously.

555
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,400
That's the point, Leaving room
for the wrath of God.

556
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,000
That's much easier said than
done.

557
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Yeah.
And, you know, I liked, you

558
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
know, the point that Joel was
making.

559
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,600
And he has this quote from
Barclay that vengeance can break

560
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,320
the spirit, but kindness will
break the heart.

561
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,600
And and of course, this is one
of the points he made during

562
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,480
this time is like this is for
interpersonal stuff.

563
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,280
Like there are point authorities
who are there which are put

564
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480
there by God to make things
right, like our police or courts

565
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080
or, you know, maybe a principal
and stuff.

566
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,640
And so this should inform your
attitude.

567
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Like, hey, if you do need to
take it up to a higher

568
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,720
authority, it's not for revenge
or vengeance, but maybe for

569
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,400
justice or to to stop an evil
thing from happening.

570
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,960
But you know, as we are to leave
room for the wrath of God,

571
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,280
sometimes the wrath of God comes
through those authorities that

572
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
he's appointed.
I I like that.

573
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440
I like that a lot.
It's man entrust yourself to a

574
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680
faithful creator.
That is good.

575
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Verse 20 we get all caps in the
ASP because we're quoting I.

576
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,720
Love it.
But if your enemy is hungry,

577
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,840
feed him.
And if he is thirsty, give him a

578
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,600
drink, for in doing so you will
heap burning coals on his head.

579
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,760
You know that's taking the extra
mile.

580
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Not just like don't do them
wrong, but feed him.

581
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,840
Yeah.
No, that's good.

582
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,800
And this can really pricked the
wrongdoer evil doer's

583
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560
conscience.
Another illustration, this

584
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880
atheist from the Athens Daily
View review.

585
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,160
I guess this is somewhere, I
think it was somewhere in Texas,

586
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,600
but Patrick Green was an atheist
and was threatening to sue or

587
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,320
suing the town over their
nativity scene happened at the

588
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120
same, you know, shortly
thereafter it got sick and I

589
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,120
guess was pretty sick from what
I remember.

590
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
He was some type of taxi driver
and couldn't work.

591
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080
And so, you know, had these
bills detached retina?

592
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320
What's that?
Detached retina or something

593
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,440
with the retina?
Did that make this up?

594
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,960
I.
Don't know.

595
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,880
I don't.
Know, I don't know.

596
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Maybe I was typing down and
missed that.

597
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Maybe that's what it was.
The pastor called him like, how

598
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240
can we help?
And he was like, probably not

599
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,640
going to do anything, but you
know, what I really could use is

600
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,040
groceries.
And he thought maybe I'll get 50

601
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,560
bucks.
And, you know, they, you know,

602
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,080
gave him $400.00, which this
was, you know, a few years ago.

603
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,680
So $4.00 stretched a little
further back then.

604
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
And this kind of really
overwhelmed them.

605
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840
And it, the, the article said
the flabbergasted Green said, I

606
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,320
thought I was in the twilight
zone.

607
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,800
These people are acting like
what the Bible says a Christian

608
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,320
does.
So not what he's expecting ends

609
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,320
up withdrawing his court case
and I think the church goes on

610
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,400
to help him some more.
The article doesn't give any

611
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,880
indication that he was saved
through this experience.

612
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,920
We don't know.
Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.

613
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,360
But the point is that their
kindness to him really hit his

614
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,240
conscience and it and it was,
you know, they left room for God

615
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,280
to deal with him as as he
wanted.

616
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Yeah, it's, it's basically the
reason that I make fun of.

617
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040
I just bring up the chiefs every
time I see you, 'cause I'm

618
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,240
hoping I'll get a free meal out
of it.

619
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200
That's what I'm hoping.
I want you to feed me and give

620
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760
me something to drink.
So let's see if you're applying

621
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,800
scripture.
And that takes us to the end of

622
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240
this section.
Do not be overcome by evil, but

623
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,720
overcome evil with good.
You know, maybe think of this,

624
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280
we said this at the top, I think
maybe a summary statement of

625
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,080
sorts for this, this the whole
section.

626
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Yeah.
And I was thinking maybe even

627
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,000
for the chapter, like if you're
going to live your life as a

628
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,760
living sacrifice, which is your
reasonable service, you should

629
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960
not be overcome by evil, but be
overcoming evil with good.

630
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,600
But certainly a summary of
these, you know, probably 9

631
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,080
versus whatever the whatever
that section was.

632
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,400
Let me scroll back up here.
Yeah, 9 down through 21.

633
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Yeah.
So this is the time in the

634
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,080
sermon where we look at a
slideshow of the cutest dog

635
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,320
breeds.
I don't know, I don't know.

636
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,280
I don't know if if if what if
you had a cute dog breed you

637
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,760
were hoping made the list.
I, you know, I think there's

638
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,320
lots of cute dogs and sometimes
dogs are cutest puppies and

639
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,400
they're not as the dogs or vice
versa.

640
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720
That's true.
But there are also a lot of ugly

641
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,840
dogs out there too.
I'm like, I would, I would not

642
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,760
want that dog.
Oh man, I was just glad there is

643
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,680
no dachshund on the list.
I told Ashton as soon as I

644
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,240
could.
Sorry, but password does not

645
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,720
think your dog's cute.
But but the point was, you know,

646
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040
dogs are a man's best friend.
They will, you know, stick

647
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,560
through you through it all.
But you know, people don't

648
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
necessarily stick stick through
the hard times with you.

649
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,920
That relationships get broken,
people get angry, people have

650
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560
enemies and friends.
That that it can be tricky

651
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,120
sometimes.
Yeah, and he has this quote here

652
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
to dwell above with the Saints
we love.

653
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Oh, that will be glory.
But to dwell below with the

654
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,760
Saints we know well, that's
another story.

655
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Very, very true, a lot of which
he probably could apply this

656
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,880
section.
And I like what pastor drills do

657
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,400
when he's kind of taken the big
picture in mind and he's going,

658
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,880
you know, some call back to
Romans 8 and saying we can't do

659
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,280
this without the Holy Spirit.
That's what Paul has talked

660
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
about previously, that that's
where we draw some of our

661
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,200
strength.
We can't do it without the

662
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,920
mercies of God going back to the
beginning of Romans 12, that

663
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,240
these things help help us do
what we just read about.

664
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040
And others our faith in God, so
he wants at least for our local

665
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320
church.
Read First Peter this week

666
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,640
'cause first Peter really talks
about how, you know, how that we

667
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,120
handle persecution during these
tough times and really it comes

668
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,000
down to our faith in God and
that he is using it and working

669
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,040
it.
And then our local body, Hebrews

670
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,760
10/19 through 25, the church.
And are you turning to Hebrews

671
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,960
10?
I was going ahead to

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Philippians.
I was trying to you.

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Know when I think of Hebrews 10,
I think of the great high priest

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section.
So I just want to, you know,

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talk while I'm turning over to
Hebrews and see exactly what

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these verses have to do with the
church.

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Maybe they are instructive to
the church because of what he

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set up.
So I'm just going to quickly,

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this is Hebrews 10/19.
It says, Oh, therefore,

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brethren, since we have
confidence to enter the holy

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place by the blood of Jesus, by
a new and living way which He

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inaugurated for us through the
veil that is His flesh, and

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since we have a great High
Priest over the House of God,

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let us draw near with a sincere
heart and full assurance of

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faith, Having our hearts
sprinkled clean from an evil

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conscience, and our bodies
washed with pure water.

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Let us hold fast to the
confession of hope of our hope,

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without wavering, for He who
promised is faithful.

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And let us consider how to
stimulate one another to love

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and good deeds, not forsaking
our own, assembling together as

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is the habit of some, but
encouraging one another.

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And all the more as you see the
day drawing near.

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So kind of looks at those
mercies and then puts it in

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context of our local assembly
and not forsaking our local

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assembly, but stirring another
one another on the good works.

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Yeah, that's good.
You got to do it, you know,

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within the context of of your
local body for sure.

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And there are, you know, people
that you get along with and you

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don't.
And it's all, it's all so

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important to live by Romans 12.
Another application is Pray

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Philippians 19 through 11 where
Paul writes and praise and it's

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my prayer that your love may
abound more and more with

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knowledge and all discernment so
that you may approve what is

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excellent and so be pure and
blame us for the day of Christ

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filled with the fruit of
righteousness that comes through

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Jesus Christ to the glory and
praise of God.

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I feel like we got a lot of good
like applications drawn from all

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over Scripture, a lot of things
to to fill our minds.

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There's lots of scripture that
speaks to how we act when we're

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persecuted or when we're
wronged.

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And then out of this, maybe you
can ask yourself this, listen to

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this podcast.
If you're in the sermon today,

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you're in our local body.
Maybe the Holy Spirit brought to

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mind a current relationship that
you need to apply these verses

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to.
Like how can you be kind to

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someone and give room for God's
wrath and, you know, help them,

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00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,120
you know, to break their heart
but not their spirit through

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00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,560
your kind words and stuff?
And it's one of, it's one of

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those sermons you don't on
Monday, you don't want to get

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like 5 people bringing you meals
or something.

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Be like, oh, it's me, I'm the
problem.

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00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,720
We also like gang up on someone
to be like, hey, just trying to

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apply pastor's sermons.
Isn't there some Taylor Swift

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00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,160
song like It's Me I'm the I'm
the problem with I think.

725
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,360
You were a Swifty, yeah.
No, not a Swifty.

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That is good.
Romans 12 is in the books.

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We will hit Romans 13 next time.
Any parting words, Michael?

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I just, I've really been joining
Romans.

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Hopefully you haven't too.
I think it's instructive.

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And stay tuned for next week.
That's our take.

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