Sola Gratia

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It's October.
It's October bonus episode.

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Bonus episode just coming out of
the.

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Solos.
Yeah, we've had actually a

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string of bonus episodes, but
yeah, so we'll talk about

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another one of the foundations
of the Reformation.

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Before you say it, guess which
one we're going to do.

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Wait a second.
Think about it.

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All right, so la Gratia was
that?

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Was that what you thought?
Hopefully it was I I guess I'm

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taking these we are taking those
you you said you didn't care.

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So I'm taking them.
I, I kind of the order that I

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see him like in that famous
verse Ephesians 289.

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So grace, faith, Christ, you
know, and Scripture being the

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foundation and then you know,
all to the glory of God.

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That's that's how I kind of see
you though.

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That's good.
I.

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Will just say your order did not
line up with Ligonier's order.

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I don't know what I mean.
I don't know where they based

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that order.
From but.

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You know, but they got the the
bookends are the same.

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OK, alright, alright.
So, so la gratia.

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Yeah, fancy, fancy language.
Break it.

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Is it Spanish?
Yes, yes, through by grace

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alone.
OK, yeah.

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And so grace is unmerited favor.
It's also the word karis.

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Oh.
That's right in in Greek, yeah.

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So you may know someone with a
child named.

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Karis thinking who could that
be?

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I don't know.
Yeah, no.

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Great, great name for daughter
Michael could work.

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And so kind of like the hinge
point of grace is that it's not

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through works.
It can't be both grace and

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works.
Cannot.

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Yeah, Yeah.
You can't.

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If you earn something, then you
did the work.

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It's not, it's not unmerited
favor or a free gift.

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A free gift we don't deserve.
That's like burden to my mind.

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That was like the Awana
definition with like Bible

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quizzing and stuff.
A free gift that I don't

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deserve.
Like that's like in my mind.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And like, even if I, I've used
this example before, but like if

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you had a, a company, like you
own a company and you had your

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child go do some work and you
like, greatly overpaid them,

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like you're overpaying them, but
they still did the work.

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Yeah.
Yeah, even if it wasn't like

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totally great, it's like they
still put forth effort and

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didn't work that you that they
owe you for their work.

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They they still owed you
something.

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No, they may have paid you a
little more than once you

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needed, but they still owed you.
How would you?

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This is a question I was going
to ask you all fair.

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And I was like, I'll just save
it.

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Like, put you on the spot, you
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Nervous so.
How would you differentiate, you

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know, if we had work on one side
and grace on this side, where

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does faith fit in on that?
Because faith is going to, we're

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going to have a sola fide here
in a little bit because I've

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heard like sometimes people get
into this is faith a work or

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not?
Or, you know, how would you

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answer that?
Yeah, I, I do think faith is a

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gift from God, but I do think
faith is a response that that we

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make in response to our heart
being changed.

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But I still think it's a gift
from God.

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But I think it's something we do
is that you're getting at.

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Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Yeah.

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It's something we express.
That's right, we.

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Do might be a bad way to put it,
we express.

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Yeah.
Out of God's unmerited favor is

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is grace?
Yeah.

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'Cause I, we've talked about
this a little bit, but I think

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that it is important that, you
know, faith and repentance.

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We're not, we're not saying
those things are not necessary.

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Those things are just like
autumn, you know, I don't know,

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it comes out of the, the new
birth, but I think we'll read a

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little bit about that in this
Ephesians 2 passage.

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Very classic if you're thinking
about any of these solos.

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Like you said, it's great.
Great to know this.

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Are you OK if I read some of
this?

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Yeah, absolutely.
All right.

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I just didn't want any, like,
heresy to slip in, you know what

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I'm saying?
Like, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
If if you're concerned you might

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misquote it, maybe you should
read it.

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Yeah, that'd be great.
This is.

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I'm guessing this is NASB.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
And Paul, Paul writes.

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And you were dead in your
trespasses and sins in which you

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formerly walked according to the
course of this world, according

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to the Prince of the power of
the air, of the spirit that is

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now working in the sons of
disobedience among them.

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We too all formerly lived in the
lust of our flesh, indulging the

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desires of the flesh and of the
mind, and were by nature

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children of wrath even as the
rest.

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Verse 4 But God being rich in
mercy, because of his great

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love, which with He loved us
even when we were dead in our

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transgressions, made us alive
together with Christ.

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By grace you have been saved,
and raised us up with Him, and

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seated us with Him in the
heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

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so that in the ages to come He
might show the surpassing riches

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of his grace and kindness toward
us in Christ Jesus.

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Verse 8 For by grace you've been
saved through faith and that not

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of yourselves.
It is the gift of God, not as a

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result of work so that no one
may boast for we are his

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workmanship created in Christ
Jesus for good works which God

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prepared beforehand so that we
would walk in them.

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I like that you've got these 10
verses because it it shows the

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complete pictures 8-9, eight
through 10.

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They get all the credit, but
it's like this context to see

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this, this difference.
So, you know, we're talking

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about the Protestant Reformation
and we talked about sola

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scriptura last week.
We're talking about sola Gratia

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this week.
What contrast would we, you

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know, draw between US and the
Roman Catholic Church on those

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two issues 'cause I don't, I was
thinking when I listened to the

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bonus episode, do we really, do
we kind of draw a line between

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that's good?
That's the whole context.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Between US and the Roman

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Catholic Church, and I'll just
say I'll, I'll answer sola

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scriptura and then leave Graudia
to you.

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But, you know, I think we kind
of hinted at it, but you know,

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the Catholics would put on par
with Scripture councils, the

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Pope speaking ex Catherine,
which means from the chair.

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I think those are the two things
that they would put on par with

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Scripture.
The Eastern Church might put

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tradition on par with Scripture.
So kind of like, well, this is

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what the early Church fathers
did.

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So we have to interpret
Scripture in light of what they

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did that it kind of helps us
understand.

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And to a degree, I, I might
agree with that.

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Like, oh, this is how they
understood it.

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But at the end of the day, as
Martin Luther said, you know, I

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have to be convinced by
Scripture and my conscience

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reading the Scripture fairly.
So that's kind of the line that

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we would draw.
We would say the bottom line for

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a Protestant is what does
Scripture say?

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Yeah, I I think that's good.
And when you're thinking in

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terms of faith, it would be with
a lot of these, it would be a

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mistake to say, oh, Catholics
don't believe they need faith.

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It just, it just all works like
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That is a mischaracterization.
You're not giving them like a

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fair, a fair shake.
I would say faith.

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Faith is very important to to
their to their life.

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I think the problem comes in.
Now you're saying faith?

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You mean grace?
Sorry.

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Yeah, Sorry.
Yeah, Yeah, I'm here for grace.

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Yeah, that's good because they
would talk about even some of

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this grace in a in a little bit
different way than than we would

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where, you know, you kind of
infused with this grace at at

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baptism might begin my
terminology wrong.

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And then so as a as a baby
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you were you were good.
And you just need to stay in

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that state.
You can fall out.

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There's venial sins, there's
mortal sins.

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And if you just do not a mortal
sin, just one of these venial

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sins, not not as big deal.
You can exercise penance, do

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some of these works to kind of
get back into into grace.

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And so they talked a lot about
this in used grace, which is a

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little bit different than the
Protestant understanding.

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So it grace is important to
them, but it's it's in a much

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different way.
Right, right.

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And this probably, and This is
why like when you go to the

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Catholic system, I think grace
and faith both kind of

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counterbalance, you know, the
sola grace, sola fide

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counterbalance, the Roman
Catholic system, because they

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would also talk about this Bank
of merit that's saved up by

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Christ and by Saints.
And so, and then the Pope, being

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the vicar of Christ and through
his delegations of different

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priests, are able to dole out
that Bank of merit to people

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like you said, so that to help
them restore the fuse, grace,

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which is this whole, it starts
getting into a system of work,

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works even though it didn't
start out that way.

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You know, you were baptized as a
baby and infused with grace.

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So yeah.
No, I think that that's good and

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really changes your whole
paradigm if you need to work

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your way into something in
addition, in addition to to

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grace, because like we said, the
top, that's the antithesis.

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It's like not, not, not grace,
grace at all.

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And, and so as you kind of go
down the soul, as you see just

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this dividing line that becomes
very, very evidence between

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Roman Catholics and and
Protestants where, you know,

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where we're not, we're not on
the same page with with these

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things specifically.
And I see down here this song

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people may have heard of.
It's it's not really well known

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that John Newton wrote amazing,
Puts Amazing in front of this

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word grace.
And we talked about it before,

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but I used to have a little bit
of problem with Amazing Grace.

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Hell, yeah.
I forgot that.

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Yeah, 'cause it 'cause I think
it's the second verse that says

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Twas grace that taught my heart
to fear.

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And I was like, it wasn't grace.
It was the knowledge of of what

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I, it wasn't God's, you know,
grace to me that I was afraid

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of.
I was afraid of his

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righteousness and his justice.
And Tim was like, Michael, your

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knowledge of his righteousness
and justice.

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What this song is saying was a
grace to you because not

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everyone sees that it was grace,
that God opened your eyes to

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what you deserve.
Yeah.

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And that's what taught your
heart to fear.

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And I was like, OK, boom in
there.

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I can sing it that way.
I don't know if John Newton

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meant it that way, but that's
how I'm interpreting it.

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Yeah, that's how we're taking
it.

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If you look at Paul, where where
it's funny, this is lining up

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where where we're at in our
Roman series pretty closely.

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Chapter 9, verse 16 of Romans,
Paul says so then it depends not

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on human will or exertion.
It's not your works, but on God

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who has mercy.
It's really God who gives grace.

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Because like Ephesians 2 says,
if it was based on works, I

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could say I did it.
God, God, you not, maybe not you

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owe me, but you kind of owe me.
I, I I earned this.

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And we put has mercy there
because we don't have a verb

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that like that.
But in in the original Greek,

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it's just mercied.
It's like all one verse.

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It's like he mercy to us.
He graced us.

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Yeah.
What?

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What else we got on Grace?
It's unconditional to us.

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He's chosen us by grace alone.
There's an effectual calling.

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We talked about being drawn by
the Father, by his grace.

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What else you got here?
Here's a couple verses out

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closes out with this is from one
of your Sunday schools.

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We look ahead kind of the same
section, Romans 9 through 11.

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We just read from Romans 9,
Romans 11/5 and six says so too.

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At the present time there is a
remnant chosen by grace, but if

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it's by grace, it's no longer on
the basis of works.

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Otherwise grace would no longer
be grace getting out when we've

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been kind of driving home.
Just Paul says it right there.

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It's in Scripture, driving,
driving this home.

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So how many solos we got?
I'm not great at math.

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We've done 2, there's 5.
We've done 253 more, yeah.

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So hopefully this is like
pumping you up, getting you

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ready for Reformation Day, and
hopefully you can carry these

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into November and be thankful
for them.

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Look at that, tying it all
together.

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Well, thanks for hanging in
there for our second Sola.

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We'll be back next week with
Sola.

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Fi Day.
Fi Day.

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That's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take 2.

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