Nov. 4, 2024

That's Not Fair | Romans 9:14-18

That's Not Fair | Romans 9:14-18

Episode 81


Sometimes life seems unfair. How much more when the Bible says that God chooses some but not others. Join Michael and Zach as they dive into Romans to discuss this difficult topic.


Original sermon here: https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermons/1027241914153241


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The birthday boy is here with
us.

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And and and and live in living
color.

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Yeah, how?
How was the big day?

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You know, I've had better
birthdays.

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I don't know if you could tell
if you listen to our Halloween

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episode.
I was trying to keep my coughing

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and sniffing, but it's just been
hanging around for like 2-2.

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There I am again, two weeks.
Yeah, once you get older, have

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another birthday, just it's hard
to recover.

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So I actually took off work
because I was like, you know, if

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I want to feel this cruddy, I'm
not going to do it on my

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birthday at work.
Like, can't have all three.

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So I just took work off.
And it's not like it was like, I

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feel horrible.
Yeah, but it's like.

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Got 100.
Percent it was good.

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You know got I got a card for my
kids that made me cry.

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So that's.
That's sweet.

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Yeah.
Phoebe.

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Phoebe was looking out for you
because I am very forgetful

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totally forgot it was your
birthday.

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Phoebe looked at me at home
groups and said tomorrow's my

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dad's birthday and I was like oh
we need to start a happy.

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It's like but then I I asked
around so I was like I don't

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know the rules.
I think it's OK.

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I was like it's pre birthday but
but it was OK.

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It was saying to happy.
Birthday.

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It was a day that was, I don't
know what the cut off that it's

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like 5 days.
You're like, I don't know what

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the, what the, you know, line of
demarcation is, but so, so you

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got a card.
What else happened?

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Got some gifts?
Nice.

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You know nothing, Nothing huge.
You guys eat anywhere, anything

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like that?
Oh yeah, we did go eat at Texas.

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Roadhouse, Texas.
You're speaking my language.

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You know, I'm passionate about
Texas.

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Roadhouse.
It's good.

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It's great.
Food, it's consistently good for

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the most parts.
And you know, I feel like

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people, I feel like people give
places like that a hard time.

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Like there's like chains
sometimes something like that,

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but I I love it.
Well, I mean, I my wife and I

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went to a very fancy steakhouse
where we paid maybe 2 1/2 * 3

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times, I don't know.
And the steak was not as good as

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Texas Roadhouse.
Bet they didn't have cinnamon

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butter.
I bet they didn't have.

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Cinnamon butter, yeah.
Yeah, I bet they the whole

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environment was.
Is good.

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So I did, you know, they had me
take my napkin and like, twirl

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it around like a lasso while
they did their, you know,

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yeehaw, whatever.
Classic Texas Rd.

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I honestly try to go there for
my birthdays many years.

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One year, man, Jayden was alive.
It wasn't that long ago.

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I think it was.
I think it was around COVID,

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maybe shortly thereafter.
September 2020.

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Yeah, maybe it was September
2020 where it's like things had

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like started opening up again.
Maybe that sounds about right.

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I'll have to back check this.
And I went to go order there and

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guess what they were out of.
Bread, green beans, salad.

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Steaks.
They had some steak, but they

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they were out of.
Rib to be a steak house and be

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out of steaks.
Not a good day out of rib eyes

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out of sirloins.
But they did have like New York

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strip.
They, they, I mean, they weren't

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out of all steaks, right?
But you get the rib eye.

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Is that your?
I like I go with the rib eye,

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that's what I get.
I'm a rib eye guy.

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All day.
Jill gets the filet.

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Living a good life that's good,
that's good, but you would think

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like there they would tell you
like hey, just FYI, wore out of

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a couple steaks like I guess
they were hoping I would go

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straight for like.
Sirloin.

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Sirloin.
Sorry.

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No, sorry, we don't have that.
Sirloin.

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Sirloin.
No, sorry, I don't have that

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yet.
Man, but other than that, no, no

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complaints.
And that's to me sounds like,

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sounds like a good birthday.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I did want to mention one
other thing that I had like a

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day a couple days before my
birthday.

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And you mentioned cinnamon
butter that they have at Texas

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Roadhouse.
So good.

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My wife bought this Italian
bread, OK.

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And it was like artisan Italian
bread.

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Sounds good.
Maybe from like, Publix.

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I don't know.
But it was really, honestly, it

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wasn't great sandwich bread.
It wasn't bad.

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Yeah.
But when you toasted it like it

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had like this, it just got super
crunchy, OK.

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It was like, yeah, it was just
the best crunch.

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And I put some butter on there.
OK.

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And I put some cinnamon on it
and I put some honey on there

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and I ate it and it was like, Oh
my goodness, like knock your

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socks off.
And I was like, you know, what I

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need with this is a small glass
of milk, small glass of.

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Milk.
I'll tell you what, honestly,

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that sounds pretty good.
I for the record, I don't love

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Simon Toast grudge.
Everyone does, but I think I

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like eat it and the milk
separate.

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I just don't like the cinnamon.
I'm weird.

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It dissolves everywhere.
Not my thing.

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Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it made me think of

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and think of you as that cause I
was like, oh, I'm, I got, I'm

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basically, I'm doing the cereal
right here in my hand.

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Cinnamon.
Toast, we should like people.

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We should do some, like cereal
deconstructions like that.

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Like, you know, I don't know
what other ones fit nicely like

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that where you can like that
might be unique.

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Yeah.
So Cookie Crisp.

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I don't love Cookie Crisp.
I feel like it should be better

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than it is.
But anyway, not not the time to

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dissect cereals.
It's the time to talk about

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things that aren't fair.
And that's one of the.

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Like not having steaks when you
go to.

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Texas, that's not fair.
That was my I was like, it's my

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birthday.
It's not fair.

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We're on our 27th sermon.
Yeah, that's the word I'm

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looking for about on, on Romans.
We're getting into the the heavy

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stuff, so let's go ahead and
take it to the next level.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
That's not fair.

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Not fair.
What a good title for this

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sermon.
I'll tell you, I was telling you

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a little bit of this before we
started, but what I appreciate

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about this sermon is that Pastor
Joel, like glued to the text,

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stuck to the text.
I think you can get in a lot of

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trouble when you preach some of
these more emotionally charged,

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really challenging texts.
And he was just like in a

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lockstep basically the entire
time.

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And I think he just, that's what
you got to do when it's this

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tough and this.
Every word let it let it speak

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for itself.
Yeah, So out out of the gate,

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great title.
That's not fair.

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Because me personally, as a
middle schooler, high schooler,

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that's my reaction reading this
and really kind of in this anti

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sovereignty of God thing where
that's just not fair and God.

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So I think it captures the whole
essence.

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That's what we're going to see
Paul.

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That's what Paul's trying to
address.

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He knows that's going to be the
the objection.

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Did I tell you I taught through
a series for the adults years

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ago, like 20/17/2018 on
salvation in general, the topic

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of soteriology?
So obviously you're going to hit

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some of the Sovereign Grace type
stuff.

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I'm just a lot of scripture.
I think we pulled some of the

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slides that I'd used for our
solo.

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Series.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And Danny was like, oh, you
should teach this for the high

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school kids.
So I taught it and I was like,

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if you have any questions, let
me know.

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I put in like a like a
SurveyMonkey so people could put

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in anonymous things.
And someone put in there and it

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was kind of kind of not too
great grammar.

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But basically, this is not fair.
You know, this doesn't seem

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right.
And maybe six months later,

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Chloe said that was me.
I put bad grammar in there so

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you wouldn't know it was me.
But it was her sentiment.

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She she felt like this doesn't
seem fair.

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And I think if you're honest
with yourself, most people,

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that's, that's the first thing
you're going to say.

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I'm so thankful that that's in
Scripture like these objections,

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because if they weren't there,
like what, what are you supposed

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to think?
Like that really helps clarify.

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And that's, and Paul's like, I
know what you're going to think.

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And you, you found this
beautiful quote by by Mike Stone

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that that gets you, gets you in
that mindset.

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Yeah, Joel used this one.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And did Joel used it?
You cracked it down.

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Yeah, that's what.
Sorry.

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Yeah, that.
Thanks.

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For that, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

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So you want me to read it?
Yeah, go for it man.

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You got that word.
There's original.

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I know I'm trying to figure out
where to put this word original

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because I'm trying to keep
something to keep my keep me

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from coughing.
But we'll, we'll do, we'll do

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the we'll, we'll do the best we
can do.

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It's one of those first things
we learned to say in life.

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Not long after we learned to say
Mama and Dada, we learned to say

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it like a rite of passage or a
prerequisite to enroll in the

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local pre-K program.
We must learn to say that's not

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fair.
The kid has to eat his broccoli

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while dad does not.
That's not fair.

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You buy plain Cheerios while all
your friends get Captain Crunch.

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That's not fair.
That's that's a tough one.

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It gets worse when siblings come
along.

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When one child gets to stay up
later than the other, that's not

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fair.
When you run errands with one

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child and buy them an ice cream
cone while you're out, that's

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not fair.
Unfortunately, it doesn't get

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any easier as you get older.
I tried out for the team but the

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teacher's pet made it the cut.
That's not fair.

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I applied for the job but I
didn't have the right last name.

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That's not fair.
I did all the work on the

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project but my Co worker got the
raise.

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That's not fair.
Everybody was driving 78,

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including one guy that blew me
by doing at least 90 and I got

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the ticket.
That's not fair.

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Unfortunately, this attitude,
this demand for fairness, is

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often directed at God over far
more serious matters.

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I want a child and I can't have
one.

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That's not fair.
My spouse died and now I'm

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alone.
That's not fair.

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My child is in rebellion despite
my best attempts.

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That's not fair.
I have cancer despite trying to

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live for God, that's not fair.
My husband lost his job and

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we're in a bind.
That's not fair.

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Well, those are good.
Kind of starts out playful and

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then ramps up to those those
serious ones.

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And I think everyone at every
stage of life has said that

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because, yeah, life's really not
fair all the way around.

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We all experience that.
We know what that feels like.

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Not, not, not a great feeling.
And I think that speaks to the

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polarization, the toughness of
this passage.

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This is at the center of so many
debates, and people are taking

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sides.
It's it's a tough one.

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Yeah, and not to cut to the
chase too early, but I remember

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this is my senior year in high
school.

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I don't know if I've told this
before, maybe I have.

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And we had banned officer
elections.

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I had quit football to be 100%
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every year up to them.
But it's like if you're not, if

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you're not like doing both like
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nominated, didn't get nominated.
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Oh yeah.
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I came home.
It was my last year to be a band

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officer.
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And I was like in a in a funk.
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Nothing.
What's the matter?

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What's the matter?
I know there's something wrong.

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What's the matter?
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If there's anyone that deserves

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to be a band officer, I deserve
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My mom looked me eyes and she
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you deserve wow is to die and go
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that is God's grace.
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I can argue with that.
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time, and I think as we go
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right perspective.
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Keep keep that in mind because
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place.
So let's get our bearings.

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If we're dealing with, you know,
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know where, where do we, where
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We're coming out of Romans 8,
this fantastic passage about the

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golden chain of redemption.
God's going to finish what he

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began.
He's going to work through all

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of this.
Paul, if God keeps his word and

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completes what he begins, then
why are the Jews rejecting and

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falling away?
Can Christians trust God that

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that's probably the sentiment.
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saying, well, I mean, So what
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It's like you guys have just
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kind of left us in the dust.
What happened to all of these

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promises?
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I think Pastor Joel even kind of
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9 getting here to highlight
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theme past verse of this pastor
if you want to start hitting

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some of that stuff.
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We Paul talks about, hey,
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privileges and yet you didn't
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It says, but it's not as though
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Like that's like has huge
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Like what do we do with that?
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They are not all Israel who are
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And so he moves on to, you know,
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sovereignty guarantees the
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not or will not fail.
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examples from Abraham's life
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Ishmael.
Look, I'm carrying out my

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promise.
It's just not how you, maybe you

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thought it was going to be.
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and Esau.
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Esau.
I'm going to fulfill my promise

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to you, Abraham, but it's going
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What what a great example
pointing to God's previous

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history, probably good indicator
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That's like the verse.

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Keep in your mind the word of
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And then I always like peeking
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Chapter 11.
That's all of this rejoicing and

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all this praise like you who can
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It's just unsearchable.
The mind of the Lord is just

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superior than ours.
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in your mind, I think it helps
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part so much.
Doug MU has got this commentary

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on Romans.
He says if God's plan depended

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on the vagaries of sinful human
beings for its continuance, then

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indeed God's word were to fall
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But God's purpose in history is
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elects people to be part of that
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It all hangs on him.
It's all God.

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And if it was me or you or
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were we're, we're doomed.
We're just, it's just like Adam.

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2 point O.
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So really we talked about, you
know, the the scripture that

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we're about to be in Romans 914
through 23 you could describe as

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a diatribe.
Paul is answering these

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hypothetical critics and they're
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And basically it mounts to some
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That's not fair.
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So if we're starting in verse
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say?
Then there is no injustice with

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God, is there?
May it never be very strong

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language.
Then he starts getting into it a

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little bit more.
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mercy on whom I have mercy, and
I'll have compassion on whom I

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have compassion.
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man who wills or the man who
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For the Scripture says a
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I raised you up to demonstrate
my power and you, and that my

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name might be proclaimed
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So then he has mercy on whom he
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desires right there.
It's pretty clear it all hangs

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on God.
So maybe we can go go through

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this and start out breaking it
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Yeah.
So Paul starts out with this

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objection and he gives you kind
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interlocutioner, inner
interlocutor, I like that says

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what shall we say then?
There is no injustice with God,

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is there?
So he's raising this question

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and he gives this very strong
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Supreme I.
Think I've learned that.

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And so right from there, Paul's
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examples, 2 illustrations.
And like you said, Joel doesn't

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wonder off reservation, he just
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that he gives.
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positive illustration, and one
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negative.
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Of that and it's beautiful
because not only is it positive

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negative, but it's the same
story like God's accomplishing

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his purpose through these people
and it's like it all just fits.

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It's like wow those you probably
can't get any more clear than

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that because even if you would
have pulled 2 from different

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parts maybe you I don't know.
It's like man, it's right there.

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So we get into the Moses
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It's a quotation from Exodus 33.
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I will have mercy on whom I have
mercy, and I will have

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compassion on whom I have
compassion.

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Strong statement in and of
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I love that Pastor Joel took us
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that really does paint a
picture, gives us a lot of

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insight, sees the context of
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That helps us understand that
this this concept even more.

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No, I think that's great because
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know, they've, they've gone to
the Red Sea, they've made it to

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Mount Sinai.
He's gone up on the mountain.

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He was there.
He said 100 days, but Jack said

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40 days.
I thought I remembered 40 days.

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Maybe it's 40 days for one thing
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I didn't Fact Check it but I
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commandments but maybe they were
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Was it a year maybe?
I don't know.

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Maybe, maybe they can.
But they Sinai, I think.

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That's what, Yeah, Yeah, I think
that's what it was.

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But, you know, Moses comes down
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and he sees them, you know, with
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Aaron's like, oh, it wasn't me.
Oh, yeah, it was you.

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And you know, we get more
information from I think First

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Corinthians where Paul says they
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they, they got down to eat and
they rose up to play or

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something like that.
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there were probably some sexual
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Moses gets mad, throws the the
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them are killed and basically
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God's mad and he's like, I'm not
going to be able to dwell with

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you like I've been because I'm
just going to get irritated and

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kill you.
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Exodus 33 says now, therefore, I
pray you, if you found favor, I

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pray you, if I have found favor
in your sight, let me know your

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ways that I may know you so I
might find favor in your sight.

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Consider too, that this nation
is your people, and he, God

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said, My presence shall go with
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Then he said to him, If your
presence does not go with us, do

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not lead us up from here.
For how then can it be known

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that I have found favor in your
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Is it not by your going with us,
so that we, I and your people,

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may be distinguished from all
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the face of the earth?
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also do this thing of which you
have spoken, for you have found

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favor in my sight, and I've
known and I have known you by

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name.
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me your glory.
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know, a crescendo, part of
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And he says, I myself will make
all my goodness pass before you

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and will proclaim the name of
the Lord before you, And I will

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be gracious to whom I will be
gracious, and I will show

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compassion on whom I will show
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So there's our quote at the very
end of the story, but it comes

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out of Moses really kind of
interceding on behalf of the

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Israelites.
Now we can talk about does God

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really change his mind?
We does he is he really mad?

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We've kind of talked about in
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So go back to 1:00 and 2:00.
For that, go check, go check it

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out.
And I think it's all wrapped up

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in God showing his glory.
We see that in Romans.

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We see that here.
And I find it interesting just a

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few verses later is when we have
this great declaration that we

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see, you know, 7910 times
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The Lord, the Lord of God,
that's merciful, gracious, slow

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to anger, abounding and
steadfast like that just around

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the corner too, like all this is
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And I think that's instructive
that this is a positive thing.

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It's because God is merciful and
slow to anger and he's trying to

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and he's showing his glory.
And it's like, man, that that

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just gives so much more insight
to this short quote.

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Really, really bolsters it, I
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Yeah.
And one thing that I I think I

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pointed this out before, but in.
It's a little bit, not that it's

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soft in English, but it's like
it's almost passive.

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I have mercy on those who I have
mercy, but in the original

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language is an action verb.
I mercy those who I want to

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mercy and show compassion on
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So God is active in in that.
And we don't you don't have to

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read far be super familiar with
the Old Testament.

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We're in the college aged
individuals were going through

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Ezra Nehemiah and you know,
Nehemiah and he basically is

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recounting all of Israel's
history and it's like God was

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good and then we messed up and
God was faithful and we were

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unfaithful over and over.
And he's like we got another

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chance here.
We're out of the exile.

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We're coming back and guess
what?

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We mess and Nehemiah ends with
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It ends on a bummer.
Like all the you know, it's like

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it, doesn't he?
Married the the not the people

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from the other nations
surrounding areas.

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Exactly right.
It doesn't end like hey,

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everything's happy.
It ends with he physically beat

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people and pulled their hair
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And that's the story of
Nehemiah, this great leader,

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right.
And so it just, you don't have

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to be this expert to know
that's, I know what happens all

444
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760
the time is humanity messes up
and God remains faithful.

445
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,680
So all that together, I think
helps.

446
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,240
So then the statement in Romans,
we're coming back-to-back to

447
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,640
Paul.
It doesn't depend on the man who

448
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,240
wills or the man who runs, but
it depends on God who has mercy.

449
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,400
There's this quote.
No one has a claim on God's

450
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,000
mercy.
He can bestow it or not.

451
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,040
If the nation had gotten
justice, all would be destroyed.

452
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,640
When you start demanding mercy,
guess what?

453
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,360
It ain't mercy.
RC Sparrow.

454
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,040
I don't know if Pastor Joel's
mentioned in the past, it's

455
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,880
maybe in his book Holiness of
God, he talks about being a

456
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,880
professor and like first paper
that was due, he extended the

457
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840
deadline.
People forgot and you know, next

458
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,760
time, same thing.
And by the third time this

459
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,320
happened, people were like not
turning in their paper.

460
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,720
They're like, we'll get it to
you get.

461
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240
It to your Prof.
Prof That's like the yeah.

462
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,640
Then the last one, he keeps the
dandelion and that's been the

463
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,440
expectation.
And he comes down on it and

464
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,600
they're like, what?
You can't do that?

465
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,160
It's like, well, no, he had
mercy so you could get your

466
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,120
stuff in and then you just
abused that.

467
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,960
It was like you a chance and
that that I think that's where

468
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,200
it's at.
I feel that in my own life I

469
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,480
want to demand mercy, but then
I'm like, yeah, it's not it's

470
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,640
not mercy.
Then I'm calling the.

471
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Shots right, that's right.
So that was Moses positive

472
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,000
example of God showing mercy,
mercying those whom he will and

473
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,040
and just to be clear, Moses and
Israel did not deserve his

474
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,120
mercy.
They had both, they had both

475
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,200
failed right.
So like like you said, they had

476
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:38,080
no claim to demand God's mercy.
Pharaoh says for this very

477
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,760
purpose I raised you up to
demonstrate my power in you, and

478
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,520
that my name might be proclaimed
throughout the whole earth.

479
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,360
Again, this is a quote from
Exodus 13.

480
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,280
You want to read this 13?
I got it, Exodus 913 through 17

481
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,160
says.
Then the Lord said to Moses,

482
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,080
Rise up early in the morning and
stand before Pharaoh, and say to

483
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,360
him, Thus says the Lord, the God
of the Hebrews, Let my people

484
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:03,680
go, that they may serve me.
For this time I will send all my

485
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,600
plagues on you and your servants
and your people, so that you may

486
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,800
know that there's no one like me
in all the earth.

487
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320
For if by now I had put forth my
hand and struck you and your

488
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,800
people with pestilence, you
would then have been cut off

489
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,680
from the earth.
But indeed, for this reason I

490
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,680
have allowed you to remain in
order to show you my power and

491
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320
in order to proclaim my name
through all the earth.

492
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,520
Still you exalt yourself against
my people by not letting them

493
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,040
go.
And then again, very clear here.

494
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,320
And it's funny you, I mean, you
read Exodus.

495
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040
There's this huge theme of
knowing the Lord.

496
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,640
We get introduced to Yahweh or
Moses does, and then we see

497
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080
phrases like this.
I'm doing this for my name.

498
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,600
It's like, what's The Who is the
Lord?

499
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,560
You kind of learn this over and
over and God, you know, God is

500
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,400
saying this through Moses, that
man, you could have been done a

501
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280
long time ago, but I kept you
around because I'm showing

502
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,680
people who I am.
Again, I'm displaying my glory

503
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,120
kind of on the other side of
things.

504
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,200
No, it's good.
And so you read through that,

505
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,560
that same passage, you'll read
places where it says Pharaoh

506
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560
hardened his heart, read places
where God hardened his heart.

507
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,240
But Pharaoh was all about
Pharaoh.

508
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,920
He was exalting himself.
And God allowed that to continue

509
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,040
so that he could then humble
them.

510
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,640
And you know, we all know the 10
plagues.

511
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,040
What would be, you know,
obviously the death of your

512
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,360
first born would be bad, but
other than that one, what would

513
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,560
what what probably would bother.
All of them sound pretty bad.

514
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,680
I'm not I'm not a fan of like,
you know, frog.

515
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,680
I'm not a fan of like all of
these animals just everywhere.

516
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,400
I don't like darkness either.
Like if it's totally pitch

517
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,440
black, there's a lot of these
things.

518
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,000
I don't like the.
Flies the gnats.

519
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,560
That would have been bad.
Man, yeah, that's not not not

520
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,120
cool.
That would.

521
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:44,360
Not turning to blood.
I've always sorry we have a

522
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,280
shorter side.
Was it literally blood?

523
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Did it have platelets in it?
Oh, 'cause if it did, wouldn't

524
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,840
it coagulate?
Like those are the kind of

525
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720
questions my mind this is.
What we need, we need to know.

526
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760
You know, some have surmised
that it was like that red tide,

527
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,960
the dinoflagellates and it
wasn't literally blood, but they

528
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,360
just called it blood.
I don't know.

529
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,720
It's like those are.
That's one of the one of the

530
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,200
questions I need.
To ask that's good.

531
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,640
We need to get some we need to
do some bump.

532
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,160
We I guess we can't know on this
this side.

533
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,480
I think I read in the Dead Sea
Scrolls, but it was actually

534
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,480
uncoagulated blood.
It was blood minus the

535
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,760
platelets, no vitamin K, So,
yeah, so.

536
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,960
But if if you're a student of
this, you know that the Nile

537
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,080
frogs, those beasts, all of
those different things were

538
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,160
different Egyptian gods.
And so through all ten of these

539
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,480
plagues, God is showing that he
is the true God and that these

540
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520
false gods are nothing,
including Pharaoh himself who

541
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,320
was treated as a God.
And so his family is is killed

542
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,000
in that last.
Place yeah that's pretty amazing

543
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,680
and then we Fast forward not in
the too distant future but we

544
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,200
get to the time of Joshua you
know we're looking 40 something

545
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,440
around there 40 years later and
people are like Rahab's like

546
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160
we've heard we've heard of your
God like word gets around right

547
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,680
I.
Wonder how old she was when this

548
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080
happened, if she was alive, like
maybe she was like a four year

549
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,200
old.
And so now she's like 44 and

550
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,880
she's like, I remember growing
up and everyone being afraid.

551
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,400
I you know.
Yeah, yeah, that, that's

552
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,120
fascinating.
Yeah.

553
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:20,600
Very well that I, I would love
to like meet put in context like

554
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920
ages and stuff, like where you
as young as I thought you were

555
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,440
old, you know what's going on.
The point being Paul is it gets

556
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280
back to in Romans.
The point really is he's going

557
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,360
to have God's going to have
mercy on whom he desires.

558
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,160
And by the same virtue, he's
going to harden whom he desires.

559
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,360
And at the end of the day, you
said it, both Pharaoh and and

560
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,800
Moses got whatever.
God got one of them.

561
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,120
Moses got mercy not because he
deserved it, because God

562
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,120
displaying his glory.
And Pharaoh got the justice, He

563
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,440
got the fairness because God was
displaying his glory.

564
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,600
Yep, and if we all got fairness,
none of us would be saved.

565
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,160
Sometimes people raise the
problem of evil and you could

566
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,240
say, well, if God were to snuff
out all evil at 12:00 tonight,

567
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,600
where would you be at 12 O1?
Cool.

568
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,920
Yeah.
Oh, 'cause you're part of the

569
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,200
problem that you're complaining
about.

570
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Man, we said in a the previous
Romans episode, beauty, the the

571
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,720
beauty of grace, that it makes
my life there.

572
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,960
We got a comment on Spotify but
I can't see who it is 'cause

573
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,720
it's like numbers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

574
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960
So we appreciate that that.
Who are you?

575
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Yeah.
I want to know who said that.

576
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,360
That's great.
I was like that.

577
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,320
Is awesome 'cause I found out I
don't want to give away too

578
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:34,240
much, but some of your ways to
get into your home Internet

579
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520
might be related to this band in
some way.

580
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,440
I don't.
I don't give any.

581
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,080
More than that.
So I was like, are you a fan of

582
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,680
this band?
Band?

583
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,400
And I didn't know that so.
Yeah, that's great.

584
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,200
I was, I was, I was as a as a
child, as a teenager.

585
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,880
Big, big fan.
I love it 'cause that song that

586
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
you were singing, Yeah.
The song after it on the album

587
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960
is Let It All Out.
And I'm like, that is a huge

588
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,800
emotional one about I think is
describing a salvation

589
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,800
experience and like the bad
things that had to come into

590
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,840
that person's life in order for
them to see, OK, I need to be

591
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,880
saved.
So yeah, I.

592
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,080
Can personally relate to that,
yeah.

593
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,840
Yeah, yeah.
So we get to application.

594
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,320
You read this, you're kind of
tracking you like the Moses

595
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760
part, probably don't like the,
you know, that's not fair.

596
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,840
It's kind of that reaction.
But you know, Pharaoh got what

597
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,600
he deserves.
So you think of how do you apply

598
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,240
this application?
Number one, God is sovereign.

599
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,520
We've got this extensive RC
Sproul quote that says Paul

600
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,200
saying that the purpose of God
in elevating Pharaoh to his

601
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,400
position of power was not to
reward Pharaoh's righteousness

602
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,920
or because he merited his
prestigious position.

603
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Rather, God put Pharaoh in that
position for God's purposes.

604
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200
Here we have an insight into
God's providential rule as the

605
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,160
Lord of all history.
He raises kingdoms up, He brings

606
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280
kingdoms down.
Pharaoh could not become the

607
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,000
most powerful man in the world
apart from the providential rule

608
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,920
of God.
And the purpose of God in

609
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
establishing Pharaoh was to show
God's power.

610
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800
Pharaoh was the most powerful
man in the world at that time.

611
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000
When his power was brought to
bear against the power of God,

612
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,000
Pharaoh appeared impotence and
God's manifesting of his own

613
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,400
authority reigned supreme.
Very, very well, said Arthy

614
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Sproles.
The man, when it comes to, I

615
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,880
feel like some of these issues
specifically, he's got it just

616
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
dialed in really.
Well, he just communicates so

617
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,400
well.
It's really.

618
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Good.
Got the chalkboard always.

619
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,560
Even he's writing Latin for no
reason.

620
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,560
But it just, it works, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

621
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
And I, I think he stopped
smoking in his older age, but

622
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,520
you could tell his his voice had
that very raspy smoker smoker

623
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,360
sound, smoker sound upcoming.
Election.

624
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,560
Yeah, I totally missed that.
No, no.

625
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Well, I'm just saying this, this
airs on this will air on

626
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Election Day.
I.

627
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Believe wow so so we could sleep
well tonight knowing God's in

628
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,040
control and I think pastor I
think mentioned this too.

629
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,840
You know, we're going to read
maybe maybe you mentioned this

630
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,920
hunger, but Romans 10, you know,
the gospel goes due to means it

631
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,440
doesn't just automatically
people get traps.

632
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400
So there's human accountability
and human means that that goes

633
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320
into effect.
So you can do your parts, but

634
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,760
you can sleep well because God
is sovereign.

635
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Yeah, yeah.
Do your part.

636
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Go vote.
We should be active because

637
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,200
that's the government God has
given us.

638
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,800
We should, you know, try to do
what's best for our country

639
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,000
within, you know, reason and and
then you can say, OK, I've done

640
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,120
my part God.
The rest is up to you.

641
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,840
You're sovereign whether you
punish us like we deserve or

642
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
whether you know however this
goes, we can trust in you.

643
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,280
Because I mean, if things go
South, which I hope they don't,

644
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,360
God can be glorified in an
amazing way and things go great,

645
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,240
God can be glorified amazing
way, right?

646
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Yeah.
So it's it's good stuff.

647
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,120
But application number one, God
is sovereign.

648
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Application #2 God is
incomprehensible.

649
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Here's a quote from Romans 1133.
O the depth, the riches both of

650
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,320
the wisdom and knowledge of God.
How unsearchable are His

651
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320
judgments and unfathomable His
ways?

652
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,920
For who has known the mind of
the Lord who has became his

653
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,120
counselor, or who has first
given to him, that it might be

654
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,920
paid back to Him again?
For from Him and through Him and

655
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,560
to Him are all things.
To Him be the glory forever.

656
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Amen, man.
That that is good.

657
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,360
And I think, you know, aptly put
in Romans 11 when all this 9

658
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
chapters, 910 and 11, all this
crazy stuff's going on.

659
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,400
And what a, what a great example
in, in the book of Job, you're

660
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,120
reading through 42 chapters so
much and you're just looking for

661
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
the answer.
What, why does suffering happen

662
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,200
to blameless people, upright
people?

663
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,240
And you're like flipping the
pages and you don't get a nice

664
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,160
neat explicit answer.
It's kind of like God just does

665
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,000
what he wants.
And it's, you know, it's a

666
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,920
creator creature distinction.
And yeah, it's, it's, it's

667
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,040
amazing how how that's there.
It's like so many chapters and

668
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,360
it's like, man, that just nails
it, the whole sentiment of, of

669
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200
who God is.
And he's after his glory.

670
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,760
Yeah.
And I always wonder what some of

671
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,240
these animals are that he's
talking about.

672
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Are they, are they our present
day animals?

673
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Are they not?
So I love.

674
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,120
It yeah, I always like, I'm
thinking, you know, a lot of

675
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,400
people are like this could be a
hippo.

676
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,000
I'm like a it's got to be more
than a hippo.

677
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,400
I'm like, I'm not satisfied with
that.

678
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,520
Tale of a cedar that's not a
hippo.

679
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,880
I'm like.
I don't, I don't love that

680
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,440
answer.
Yeah, all.

681
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Right #3 God is merciful, so
rejoice, don't cop out.

682
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,160
You know, we need to stay in
there and rejoice even in the

683
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,960
end times.
This don't cop out was an

684
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,800
allusion to, you know, in this
discussion of salvation

685
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,360
soteriology.
You know, there could be people

686
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,360
who disagree with how we're
taking this and some people get

687
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720
kind of you know, some people
love to talk about it and some

688
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,040
people are like, I'm done with
this conversation, but you but

689
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200
don't be so done with the
conversation that you forget to

690
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,680
rejoice that God has saved us.
The gospel is true.

691
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
You know, we can kind of talk
about how some of these things

692
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,120
work out.
And he also mentioned the end

693
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,680
times, you know, pre Trib, post
Trib Ammillenal.

694
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,240
You know, don't lose sight of
the fact in all those

695
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,400
discussions that Jesus is coming
again.

696
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,320
He's And that's the thing, you.
Can be so apathetic where it's

697
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
like you miss out in that
glorious reality.

698
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Right, so you know you I think
you can swing to oh, I want to

699
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,720
bit Noid the details or I don't
even want to think about it.

700
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,120
And both of those can are
extremes where we can talk about

701
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,480
the details.
That's so good.

702
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800
But ultimately, you know, we
need to keep the big things, the

703
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,760
big things.
Man, I love it We have some

704
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,560
further questions actions.
You should just keep on reading

705
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,600
through Romans 9 meditating on
this and I think it's point #2

706
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,240
is good.
Follow that argument.

707
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,360
I think it's so important to
start with Paul having the zeal.

708
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640
He's like I, I, I want to be the
one that's cursed.

709
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,440
This is how much this pains me
bleeding into God's word has his

710
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840
promises have not failed.
It's like all of this together

711
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,800
is very, very important to
understand this a little bit

712
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,040
better.
Yeah.

713
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,760
And this question about how do
you respond when things aren't

714
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
fair because, you know,
sometimes things don't go our

715
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920
way.
And when we have unmet

716
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,440
expectations, IE we think that
things are unfair, We, we, you

717
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,679
know, that can rock our boat and
what's inside of us is going to

718
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,760
spill out.
And so are we storing up

719
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,760
bitterness and angerment, anger
and, and discouragement, or are

720
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
we stirring up, you know, you
know, peace and joy and meekness

721
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000
and gentleness and kindness and
steadfastness, all those things

722
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400
so that when our boat gets
rocked, those are the things

723
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840
that spill out and, and are we
trusting in God for ultimately

724
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,440
the end of what we're going
through?

725
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Now that that that's so good and
#4 pray with Moses.

726
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000
God, show me your glory.
If you're actively seeking God's

727
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,960
glory, I think some of these
things doesn't make them easier,

728
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,040
but you see them in a different
light.

729
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
No, that's good.
Meditating on the ideas of

730
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840
justice and mercy.
What's the difference?

731
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,840
And I think it's fine to want
justice, because that's a good

732
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,679
thing.
God wants justice, but note that

733
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,639
we probably don't want it when
it comes to us.

734
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,480
We want the mercy.
So you you be able to kind of

735
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,280
look through the eyes that God
has and you know, kind of seeing

736
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,520
how he is merciful to to some.
And finally, what do you learn

737
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,360
about God here that you can
apply to your life?

738
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,240
If you're asking that question,
you're asking the right question

739
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,440
because it is.
What can I learn about about

740
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,360
God?
It's who God is and his glory

741
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,600
and all, all of these things.
And I think that that has direct

742
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,440
application in in a number of
ways to to our lives.

743
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360
All right, that is the 27th
sermon.

744
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,240
We're getting there in Romans, a
little over halfway.

745
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:32,200
I think 12 and 13 will start,
probably take off some larger

746
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,400
chunks of pass here because you
never know.

747
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,560
You never know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, We could.

748
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,920
We could spend the whole sermon
on 12/1 and two, you know.

749
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,640
That, yeah, I could go both
ways, right?

750
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Yeah.
Well, great.

751
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,200
All right.
Anything else to add?

752
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000
I I got nothing.
All right, that's our take.

753
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160
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754
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755
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