Theology Proper | Transcendence

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So what, what what?
What's your drinking habits

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like, Michael?
My drinking habits do.

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You have a drinking habit.
I drink a cup of coffee in the

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morning.
OK.

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Sometimes it's black, sometimes
it's just with some heavy

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whipping cream.
No sugar.

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There you go.
I really can't.

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I can't.
I can't do sweet tea.

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Can't do sweet.
Coffee.

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Yeah, sweet tea is overly sweet.
I like sweet tea, but man they

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really make it sweet.
I think it was back when we were

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in the I was in the Navy or just
out.

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We had started drinking some
green.

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Tea unsweetened.
And I got used to green tea

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unsweetened.
And then maybe it was like two

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months into that and I ordered a
sweet tea, which I always did.

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And I was like, like, wanted to
spit the stuff out.

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So I drink.
I drink unsweetened.

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Tea now good for you.
Probably it's a great health

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decision.
I should switch to total.

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Totally unsweetened.
You drink soft drinks at all?

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Yeah, occasionally, yeah.
Yeah.

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So you probably know where this
is going 'cause you were, I

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don't know if you were in my
cycle class, but yeah.

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So this is reviewed.
That's not anything to do with

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theology.
Yeah, so let me try to think

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Moxie.
Think about yes.

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So Moxie.
For all those out there, this is

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a shout out to Maine Nanny
Leanne's grandmother.

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Favorite drink in the world?
Stink Drink of Maine.

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I I, you know, while Zach is up
going to get Moxie, he mentioned

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some the slogans for Coca-Cola
and he mentioned one that's

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called what you said good to the
last drop.

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And me and several of us are
looking around like that is not

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Coke.
That is coffee.

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And then I looked it up and it
was one of Coke's very first.

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So they had it before, I guess
Maxwell or Folgers.

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Good to the last drop because
they even say that on on their

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website like this was our slogan
back at the No.

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That that that's great.
I am not up to date on Folgers

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or Maxwell.
I just know when you like best

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part of waking up Folgers in
your cup.

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I just literally googled soft
drink slogan is where I where I

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got.
I was like, Oh, I love that

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nineteen O 8 slogan, my coke,
but moxie the oldest.

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This is a mouthful oldest
continuously produced soft drink

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in the US.
If you can, if you ever watch

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the video, This was originally
commercially produced in 1884,

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one year before Doctor Pepper,
two years before Coke.

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So barely.
Yeah, be and it's.

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Holding on.
It's holding on and is that?

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A twist top or is it a pot top?
Do you have a It looks pop to

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here.
Let me see.

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Yeah, well.
You may have let me see.

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We might have to.
Well, yeah.

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Oh, there.
Got it.

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Great.
Let's let's go.

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Let's drink a little moxie here.
Have you ever had Moxie?

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Before I've never had mox.
What a time to be alive.

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So if you look, it's.
Cane sugar, right?

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So it should taste.
Cane sugar has a different

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flavor than high fructose corn
syrup, which is what most of our

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modern day sodas are.
Yeah.

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And and the problem with this,
this was made back in the day.

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It's I don't think it's good.
You think this is bad?

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I think this.
Is bad.

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I want to get your your take on
it that can.

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Smell a a hint of clove.
Yeah.

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So if you if you can see the guy
on the front is like a

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pharmacist, you know, it's back
in the day when everyone was

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like, this is.
Healthy.

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Let's put cocaine in it.
It's healthy for you.

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So fortunately did not go the
cocaine route as as coke coke

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did, but it it went the route of
some sort of root X extract that

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was supposed to help with your
nerves and it claimed to cure

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pull out paralysis.
I hope, I hope you do.

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You will make Nanny very happy
because this is the steak drink

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of the.
Scent is kind of giving eggnog a

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little bit.
OK, well let's let's drink,

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drink to this.
Cheers.

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Yeah, I don't think it's bad.
Oh.

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Yeah, it it, it tastes like a a,
a very like a.

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Spice like it's also yeah.
Yeah, it's like a, you know, if

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you like spice cake, if you like
clove eggnog.

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And so if if you're interested,
so Moxie is I think it's mostly

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sold in New England and I think
Pennsylvania, but you can run

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down to your local Cracker
Barrel, grab a couple of these.

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That's where where I got this
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We were just in Maine a few
weeks ago and we like let our

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kids try it and.
Not a fan.

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Oh, huge vans.
Well, mainly because it's

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carbonated in sugar and they
don't, they don't drink so.

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It's like anything that's
better.

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Yeah, there is like a bitter
after taste.

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The after taste is what it's
like.

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Oh, this is not too bad.
And then that root extract hits

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you.
Leanne likes to say it's like

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Doctor Pepper or root beer with
cough syrup.

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And I, I, I, I can see that.
So Moxie.

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Oh, yeah.
And I love, I set this in the

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Sunday school, but I love their
their slogan is distinctively

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different, which is like, if
you're going that route, there's

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like a there's maybe it's not
the best, I don't know.

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No, I think it's.
I think it's fine.

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It's definitely from.
Glowing review from Michael

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Mott.
It's fine, yeah.

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It's it's, I mean, it's not as
sweet as ours.

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Like Mountain Dew like this.
You're not gonna get I've.

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Been Mountain Dew in a while,
that's probably good I drink so

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much of.
That like concentrated, you

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know, sugar rush.
But yeah, it's, it's good.

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It's like, I would find this,
like if you made an ice cream

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out of it and served it at
Christmas, it'd be really good.

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All right, there, there you have
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Go try some moxie and and see,
see what you think.

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Today's podcasts, we're going to
continue on looking at some

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foundational doctrines.
We're doing a Sunday school

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class and Michael Mott's.
Oh man, it was a great Sunday

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school.
It was great.

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We've had in in weeks and he's
tackling these are great because

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you get to take these huge
concepts and boil them down to

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two weeks.
So he's trying to boil down

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theology proper in two Sundays.
So we're going to talk a little

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bit about that, see where the
conversation goes.

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So we're going to go ahead and
take it to the next level from

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the hearts of the low country in
South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
Theology proper sounds like

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fancy words.
I like.

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What, What, what what?
What are we talking about here,

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Michael?
Yeah.

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So I mean, the name of our
podcast is Take Two Theology.

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So theology kind of has become a
byword for just talking about

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things of the Bible or doctrinal
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But the Greek word is theos, an
ology, which means the study of

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God.
So theology proper would be the

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study of God himself rather than
some of the other tertiary

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things like what?
Who is what is the being of God?

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Who is he?
Sounds like a big topic to

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tackle in two weeks.
So did a masterful job this,

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this first Sunday, gonna wrap it
up tomorrow.

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So I think it almost goes
without saying like this is

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important topic, but it's good
to ask yourself that question.

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You know what, why do we need to
get this?

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Like we all, we all believe we
know there's God out there.

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Why do we need to know specifics
or try to, you know, think about

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this a little bit more
definitively and, and iron some

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of these things out?
Yes.

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So what?
Especially in apologetics, one

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of the perennial questions is,
do do we worship the same God

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that the Jews do?
Do we worship the same God that

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the Muslims do and do we worship
the same God that Hindus do?

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Like I can definitely say we
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You know, there are similarities
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faiths.
But the more we can understand

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who God is, the better we can
worship, the better we

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understand, you know, who we're
serving helps us.

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I think we get a clearer picture
of who he is.

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Understand, you know, just a
huge gap that there is between

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us because I think a lot of
people try to over familiarize

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him to us.
So we he's just this, you know,

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this nice old guy up in the
clouds that gives us what we

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want.
That, that that's really good.

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And it's like, like you're
saying, if you can, we can't

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understand a lot about our
guidance there.

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But I think the average
evangelical could tell you a few

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things.
They could say God's loving.

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They would maybe you say God's
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merciful.
But I think you're right too.

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They would have a hard time
going past that or exploiting

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like how how is he both of these
things or, or some very good

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question, you know, like
impassability, that that one's

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off the beaten path.
But that's a good one to talk

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about.
Maybe we can develop that

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because that is a confusing one.
I think it's not intuitive

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either until you explain it and
put some flesh on it.

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And so, you know, I think
there's a lot, a lot we can talk

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talk about here.
You started off your Sunday

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school with this great quote by
AW Tozer that what comes into

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our minds when you think about
God is the most important thing

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about us.
That's a strong statement, but

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so true that when you hear so if
you ask someone about God and

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they give you their two sentence
answer, that tells you so much

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about not only what they think
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their life, how they structure
so much the paradigm, their

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worldview.
So and that, that's such a good

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question.
It's good to be able to wrap our

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minds around these things.
Yeah, that, yeah, I couldn't

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agree more.
And really we're kind of talking

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about God being other, God being
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And there's these kind of two
different adjectives that we

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use.
And, you know, I talk a lot

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about, you know, ditches in, you
know, in our walk in theology.

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And what I mean by that is if
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you have a ditch on each side
and which ditch you want to be

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in, either one, Right?
Right.

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Don't.
Don't be in.

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The ditches and so you can go to
these extremes and so, but one

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of the one side of this is the
transcendent nature of God.

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He's just totally other but also
the eminence side of God,

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imminence.
Imminence, yeah, I'm skating.

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Yeah, I was, I was trying to say
it the the other eminence, just

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like you know, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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So it's not the eminent, like,
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happen in any moment.
Like that's just an imminent

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thing.
It's like something emanating,

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it's that type of word.
But his presence, his no

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ability, can we know him?
And if we just go all the way

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over to eminence, well, we've
missed who God is.

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If we go all the way over to
transcendence, well, God has

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revealed himself to us.
And So what I tried to do 'cause

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I think probably today we focus
more on some of the imminence of

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God.
And so I opened up, you know,

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all of the first lesson was
really on the transcendent

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properties of who God is.
That now that that's great how

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you structured and focused on
that.

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And a lot of these, I like the
words you used.

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We'll get into it more because I
think it's so accurate, so good.

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And it's, it gives us good
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It's, you know, we can use this
precise language and it made

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sense how you laid it out.
This, this via Negativa.

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So we can, we can get down to
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I want to skip through too much,
but even talking about God's

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transcendence, you are bringing
in your tomist, tomist roots a

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little bit here, you know?
Yeah, yeah, so, and this isn't

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like just to tomism, but so most
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shouldn't say most places
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seminary one place, but I think
most people will talk about how

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even when you said God is
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You know, what do what do we
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Like we have an idea of what it
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or for, you know, maybe a
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We have an idea what it means
for a dog to be loving.

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What does it mean for a being
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And so we're talking about how
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Like when I attribute something
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attribute something to to
someone, I can do that

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univocally, which really means 1
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So there's no change.
Like, you know, there's no way

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to misunderstand it.
It's like I'm speaking 100%

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truth equivocally, which means
that there I'm, I'm really

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saying one thing, but I mean
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So like if I say my wife has a
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speaking figuratively.
I'm not speaking univocally.

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Are you speaking sarcastically?
No, just clear, Jill.

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He meant that.
Yeah, yeah.

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And so when we speak by analogy,
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is univocal or univocal, a part
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Spot is a good dog, we know what

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that means.
When I say Zach is a good

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husband, we know what that
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When I say God is a good God, we
really don't know fully what

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that means.
I'm speaking by analogy.

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So there's part of that that we
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speak most accurately about God
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which we don't ascribe to him
positive attributes, but we

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negate attributes of creature,
so we negate creaturely

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attributes away from God and so
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This Latin phrase, the path of
the negative be maybe one

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translation of that.
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Because it because in scholastic
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way to be a negativa.
There's like the way of eminence

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is one thing.
Am I making this up?

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And there's like the way I don't
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Yeah.
So for us we it was either via

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negativo OK, or by analogy, so
tomorrow.

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Those are the two guys.
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OK.
So tomorrow we will.

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Do you know tomorrow for us?
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We'll.
Do by analogy, but the first

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Sunday was via negativa, yeah.
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Well, we'll jump into some of
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And so because we're trying to
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see a lot of these, you know,
prefixes look look the same as

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saying God is not.
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So the first one is incorporeal.
Incorporeal.

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Yeah, yeah.
And so I was kind of going over

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these with Jill that, you know,
the night before.

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And I was like, Jill just give
me like, yeah.

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And she's like, I don't think
people are going to know what

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incorporeal means.
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But if you think of like of a
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there's a corpse, there's a body
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you know, that's where you are
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So that that you know that root
word in their Corp or corpse

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just means body.
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He has no body.
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He's not made of physical stuff.
And so we already run into

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problems because the Bible talks
all about him having hands and

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eyes and, you know, so Feathers,
Yeah, if you really want to go,

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yeah, having, you know, he's a
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So we can, we can talk about
some of that, some of that later

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too.
But it's good to keep keep these

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kind of things in mind.
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And So what we're talking about
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So later on, we're gonna talk
about Christology, I think is, I

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think.
Danny's tackling that, yeah.

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And so we know that the second
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body.
So we'll talk about how that

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works, but God proper doesn't
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Second one, immutable meaning.
He, he can't change.

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And I like, I like that you keep
giving us like the root words or

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the etymology a little bit.
I think that helps paint paint

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it out.
Yeah, and we see there's lots of

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scripture.
I put together a document that

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kind of has more details here
because remember in Sunday

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school we're going pretty fast.
But we know God can't change,

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and if he could change, it would
be a bad thing that.

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'D be that'd be a very bad
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And I think, you know, all of
these attributes don't exist in

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a vacuum, but you kind of say
they support each other because

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he's immutable.
Other things we're going to see

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that they can't change either
because some of these things I

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think don't sound super
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Speaking of which, this next one
I think is a challenging 1 The

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impassability of God.
God is impassable.

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A what's that mean?
And then we can maybe discuss

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that more.
Yeah, so the root word here is

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pass, which you would hear from
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So like man, I was passionately
against something, or the people

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rose with passion.
And so impassability would mean

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that God does not have passions
that rise and fall.

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So he's not reacting to things
as they happen, no.

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That that's good.
I like that not reacting because

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when I read scripture, it seems
like he's very passionate

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against sin.
It seems like, you know, he

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finds joy in certain things.
So it seems like he has

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passions.
Right.

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And I in in a sense he does have
passions, but those passions are

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an eternal settled disposition
toward certain things.

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of wrath against sin.

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He has a settled disposition of
love towards the things that

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he's created, a settled
disposition of love towards the

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sun.
So from eternity.

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We haven't gotten to eternal yet

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or a temporal, but he is in an
eternal now.

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And so he's not kind of
experiencing, he's not

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experienced the timeline like we
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Time, I don't know what's going
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So I am going to react in a way
where he sees everything at the

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same time, whatever that means.
And so yeah, that it's just a

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whole different perspective.
I think that's part of the

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reason.
And then I think part of it just

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the just the language it's you
can't have this perfect delay.

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Like passions.
It means emotions.

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There are emotions, but he's not
reacting and you know.

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Yeah, and the Bible uses these,
you know, anthropomorphisms or

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anthropopolit.
What did you say?

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Anthropopathism.
Or pathisms.

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Yeah.
So I mean, because it is trying

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to help us not be all the way on
the transcendent side, but to

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help us understand because from
our perspective it might seem

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like man, God got really angry
there because we are

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experiencing it in time, but we
know God proper in his and so is

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it OK?
You know, one of the questions I

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got was well, do what do we
believe?

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Like was God angry at Korra?
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we can even, you know, everyday
life, we can go along thinking

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man, God got angry at core or
God repented of, you know,

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creating man.
And there's a sense from

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eternity when man falls, God's
hurt from that.

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But that's an eternal passion
that he has.

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He has a set disposition.
It didn't take him by surprise.

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It's all part of his plan.
So we shouldn't think of God

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being up on the throne being
like, good job.

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Oh, no, yes, no, you know, he
has, he knows everything.

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He's he's impassable.
Yeah, I think that's a good way

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to look at it too.
Like, what's the alternative?

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The alternative is that it's
like, I hope Michael makes it.

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I hope he didn't do it.
It's like, no, no, he knows

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this.
And the alternative is if he

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doesn't know this, then all
these other things we read in

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Scripture, they don't stack up
either.

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It's not consistent.
I think that's the nice thing

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about a class like this.
You kind of organize things in a

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systematic way.
The next one, it's a little bit

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more easy.
Not easy to understand, but it's

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a more familiar term.
God is infinite.

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Yeah, not finite.
He's not limited.

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So there's nothing about his
body.

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We don't mean that he's infinite
in number.

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It's not like he's a, you know.
But he is not limited.

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There's no limit to his being.
God is a temporal.

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A temporal, yeah.
A temporal?

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Yeah, Yeah, either one's fine.
And really we're going to talk

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about his assayity here in a
little bit.

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But because he exists on his
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He has to be eternal.
He can't participate in time.

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Part of that is, you know,
there's, there's a lot of

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interlocking things here.
I'm trying to think about how to

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best do it.
But he he doesn't participate in

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time.
If something participates in

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time, then it has to have a
beginning.

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God doesn't have a beginning.
We know he's yeah.

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And so since and if God had a
beginning, there would be

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another being that would have to
exist.

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It didn't have a beginning
because so there has to be a a

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non moved mover to talk about,
you know, a philosophical God

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and so that God is eternal.
He is a temporal not

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participating.
So he's been around since

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eternity past is what you're
telling me.

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Yeah, so don't use the word
eternity past or eternity

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future, because there's no past
or future or present.

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Well, it's just all present.
All present all the time that

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yeah, it's a good thing to try
to think about and and there.

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Has been a wave, so I'll just
say William Lane Craig has come

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out.
He wrote God, time and Eternity

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it it is part of my life's goal.
Maybe we'll talk about it on

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this podcast to read through.
I've read through it enough to

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write a paper when I was in
Graduate School, but I want to

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read through it enough to, you
know, 'cause you.

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There's different levels of
reading, but you.

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Long story short, he has come
out and said that once God

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started creating things, he
became in time, which is is, I

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think is.
Because then you lose some of

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this.
How?

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How does an eternal God does an
eternal present become a God who

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is now in time?
It's like I was off of the

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timeline and now I put myself on
the timeline.

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That doesn't even make sense.
Yeah, very, very bizarre, but.

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That's out there, yeah.
That that, that's great.

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Next one.
Another one that's a little bit

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easier for us to think.
God is invisible.

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No man seen God at any time,
right?

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Yep.
And then omnipresent, you're

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switching it up, Michael, you're
throwing Omni in there.

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Yeah.
So some of these don't work as

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well in English.
But the way that you would

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negate this is he's not limited
in scope, He's not limited in

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his presence or awareness.
He is everywhere.

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And the example using class,
it's not like, you know, you

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think of a piece of bread and
you want peanut butter or you,

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you love mayonnaise, right?
No, no, actually, I've come

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around.
I like a little bit of

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mayonnaise goes a long way.
But man, you can do too much.

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You can go quickly.
The.

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Wrong direction.
I can take like a whole

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tablespoon of that stuff, put it
on there.

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But anyways, you know, you can
think of, man, if I spread that

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out, mayonnaise is everywhere.
But that is not what we mean.

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We don't mean that there's a
little bit of God spread out

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everywhere.
All of God is everywhere.

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So he is present everywhere.
There's no, you know, there's

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the Psalms that talk about that.
You know, there's no way I can

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wear, I can run from you.
He is fully present everywhere.

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No limit to that.
One of my favorite ones.

449
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600
God's a sayity.
If you ever just need to just

450
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,000
flex those theological guns, get
those muscles out, just say,

451
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,720
just say.
My favorite attribute's a

452
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,800
sayity.
Yeah, yeah.

453
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,920
And I had to look up what the
agitital verb.

454
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,360
Was I was, I was like, that's
crazy.

455
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,040
It's a sayity, but yeah, it
means that he's not dependent or

456
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,120
contingent on any other being
for his existence.

457
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,600
He exists in and of himself.
And this is a huge deal in

458
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:17,280
tomism because philosophers
rightly saw this idea that any

459
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,760
like you as a creature, you have
existence and you have the

460
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,480
potential to change.
And so everything that we come

461
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,360
into contact with here in the
physical realm has those two

462
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,880
properties.
It has actual existence, which

463
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,480
we call act or actuality, and it
has potential to change.

464
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,120
And it has a nature that that
kind of governs its potentials.

465
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,520
But everything that has
potential cannot be the cause of

466
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,920
its own existence.
There's got to be, there's got

467
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,320
to be something that caused it.
And you can't go forever in this

468
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,600
backward chain.
So there has to be a being whose

469
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,080
essence or nature is to exist
itself and not have any

470
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,080
potential.
So you can say God, there's no

471
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240
potential with God.
And some people will

472
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160
misunderstand you.
But what we mean is God's not

473
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320
going to get better.
He's already the best he can be.

474
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,720
He's not going to get worse.
He's not going to change in some

475
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,280
way.
So this kind of goes back to his

476
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,440
immutability.
He has, he has no, he has no

477
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600
potential.
He is pure existence itself.

478
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000
And Moses asked him what his
name is.

479
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,360
I am that's.
Yeah, that that, that's really,

480
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,200
really good.
And then this last one is also

481
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,280
one I think causes people to
scratch their head.

482
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,000
God is simple.
Yeah, yeah.

483
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,280
And it it would be tempting to
go.

484
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:41,320
God, it's not simple.
Right.

485
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,360
I think that's the gut reaction.
He's not simple, but what we

486
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,920
mean is in his ontology.
And when I said that to my wife,

487
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,520
she's like, OK, yeah, OK.
No one's going to understand

488
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,800
what you're trying to say,
Michael.

489
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920
But in his being himself, he is
simple.

490
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,360
So you can think of a human, you
know, what is it 200 and

491
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,920
something Bones 300.
Bones yeah, yeah, like, yeah,

492
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520
something like that. 206 and
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

493
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120
We got all these bones, we got
all these tendons and ligaments,

494
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,640
we got these muscles, we got,
you know, you know, we have a

495
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,520
bunch of different parts.
We are very complex.

496
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,640
But even something like this
Turvis has parts, you know, it's

497
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,560
creative of, of, of two
different sections of plastics

498
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,800
that's been melded together.
And then this even in the

499
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200
plastic, we would say, well,
there's different polymers that

500
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680
have been.
So all of the physical stuff we

501
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,200
run into is fairly complex.
There's parts of that that that

502
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,120
hold it together.
God being pure essence is

503
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,560
simple.
There's, there's, there's no

504
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,360
parts in kind of the go to
passage for this 'cause this is

505
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,040
actually kind of, if I'm honest.
Yeah.

506
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160
There are some scriptures that
kind of hint at this, like Hear

507
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,440
O Israel, the Lord your God is
one, but this is kind of more of

508
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600
a something we arrive at
philosophically.

509
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,760
'Cause I think the other area
people struggle with this would

510
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,040
say, well, God is love plus
justice plus mercy plus

511
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,520
holiness.
We have no God is simple.

512
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,080
God is love.
God is, he's infinitely love

513
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,960
justice.
He's not.

514
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,120
He's not a composite of all
these attributes.

515
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,400
Yeah.
And that's that is another huge

516
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,480
deal because a simple being like
God, we think discursively,

517
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800
which means we think about one
thing and then we move on to B

518
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,440
and then we move on to C and we
move on to God doesn't think

519
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,120
that way.
He apprehends all things from

520
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:35,720
eternity and his properties, I
shouldn't say properties, his

521
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560
attributes, things that we can
attribute to him.

522
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,680
We think of those by kind of
onesie twosies, but even when

523
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
we're talking to him, you can
kind of see how they're related.

524
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,280
But in a being who is simple, he
only has one attribute, His

525
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,000
essence, and we understand it
kind of by breaking it apart.

526
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,520
But his love is his.
Righteousness.

527
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,440
Is his righteousness, is all
those, is his invisibility, is

528
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,960
his infinite life, all of those.
He is just himself and then we

529
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960
kind of understand it and he
relates himself.

530
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760
It's not wrong to say God is
love.

531
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,200
So I wouldn't want you to walk
away thinking, well, Michael

532
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
said.
We can't really differentiate

533
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,560
these attributes.
You can, cause that's how we

534
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,440
understand them, but we know
really there is only one.

535
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080
And really, the the worst way
people do this are like, well,

536
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,120
God was hateful in the Old
Testament and love, they really

537
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,880
break it.
That's like the farthest away.

538
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,160
Most people maybe aren't there,
but they're like, well, he's

539
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,480
these different things.
But no, God is is a good, good

540
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,800
take away.
And these are all

541
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,880
incommunicable, which is
something I feel like we only

542
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,000
hear about with diseases.
Yeah.

543
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,640
Yeah.
So if I have COVID-19, a very

544
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,720
communicable disease, I could
give that to you.

545
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,120
But these attributes that we've
talked about, God can't give

546
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,600
them to us.
He cannot make us have a Sadie.

547
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,760
He can't make us be a temporal.
He can't make us be impassable

548
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760
or immutable.
He can't give that to us.

549
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600
These are properties that he
himself has.

550
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,720
Now next time we talk, you know,
next lesson, we'll talk about

551
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,120
some of his communicable
attributes that and most of

552
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,760
those are things that we talk
about by analogy as well.

553
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
And this is great point us to
the transcendence.

554
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,200
So you know what, what do we
what do we do this?

555
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,800
What are some things we want to
like take away.

556
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,720
We know these attributes.
I think these are good things to

557
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,440
meditate on how great our God
is.

558
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,400
But how do we, you know, what do
we do with this?

559
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,480
What where we go?
Yeah, I, I think for me when I

560
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,720
think about, and I know that I'm
maybe a little different stripe

561
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,040
than most people, but I can
really revel and worship when I

562
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,800
think about God being pure
existence, existence itself.

563
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:51,160
So you think about, you know, I
often I'm trying to think about

564
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080
how to do this the fastest in a
podcast, but you can think about

565
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560
a Unicorn.
This is kind of an example I

566
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
like to give and you can
describe what a Unicorn is.

567
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,760
And if I showed you a picture of
something, you'd be like, that's

568
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,080
not a Unicorn.
Like how do you know what a

569
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,120
Unicorn is?
They don't exist.

570
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840
Well, you kind of know the
nature of what it, what it means

571
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,720
to be Unicorn.
We have kind of defined that

572
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,240
word.
So by thinking about that,

573
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320
hopefully you can kind of see
the difference between existence

574
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:23,000
and essence, right?
And existence itself, you know,

575
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,960
pure existence can't be created
or destroyed, right?

576
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,920
So because in order to create
existence, you'd have to have

577
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,960
something that existed to create
it, in order to destroy it,

578
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,040
you'd have to have something
that destroyed it, which would

579
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,960
have existence.
So God is the ground of all

580
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400
existence.
So you and me, we're existing

581
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280
right now, but we don't have our
own existence.

582
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800
It's not like I have my, I am
borrowing.

583
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,600
I am existing because of God's
existence.

584
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,600
So like we, I don't want to take
anything away from the creation

585
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,440
huge event.
It's like that and the Exodus

586
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360
are kind of the big things that,
you know, the Old Testament

587
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Saints would refer to all the
time to kind of show God's

588
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,480
mighty hand.
But every moment of our

589
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,200
existence, God is sustaining us
by his existence.

590
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,720
That's really good, man.
Yeah, that's a good one to good,

591
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760
good thing to take away from
that where God transcendence is

592
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040
so, so important that there is
this creator creature

593
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,440
distinction and that that's a
really good thing that it's not

594
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720
all all dependent on you or even
dependent on your environment or

595
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,920
whatever.
It's like, you know, God got

596
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440
God's got this under, under
control.

597
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Where do you want to go from
here, Michael?

598
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,880
You want to read some Norm
Geisler?

599
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,640
You want to read some
Parmenides?

600
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.

601
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,000
Yeah, yeah.
So I, I don't think we had to

602
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,040
read through all of this, but
Parmenides was this pre Socratic

603
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,680
philosopher and they were
struggling with some of these

604
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,880
basic questions.
I mean, all philosophers are

605
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680
struggling with some basic
questions.

606
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480
And he was the first guy to
really kind of come on the scene

607
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440
and talk about existence itself.
Now he misapplies it, so he

608
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,320
tries to apply the properties of
existence itself, which we would

609
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
say properly understood is God.
He tries to apply that to

610
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,760
everything.
And Aristotle's going to come

611
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680
along and correct some of that,
and then Thomas Aquinas is going

612
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,000
to really pick up Aristotle's
philosophy and sanctify it.

613
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160
So there's the kind of the chain
of events.

614
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,760
There before you get into it,
because I know that's what

615
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,120
you're saying, but it's like it
is interesting that you can look

616
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,040
out and reason and you get some
really good underlying thoughts.

617
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
You can clearly perceive gun,
but it's like when people miss,

618
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400
you're like, you're so close.
You're like a scientist, these

619
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,920
people, these great thinkers and
you're like, man, I'm I'm

620
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,360
tracking, I'm tracking, I'm
tracking.

621
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Oh, we misstepped.
Or, you know, it's like it's all

622
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,400
there.
Yeah, it's almost like what we

623
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,560
talked about in your Sunday
School lesson.

624
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Special revelation is necessity.
It's a necessity.

625
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,400
It's required in order to kind
of finally get these finer

626
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,000
leaps.
But Parmenides would say that

627
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,840
being itself is eternal and
unchanging, that there is a

628
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,240
unity of being, so there's not
indivisible.

629
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,400
So that would kind of go to our
simplicity, that being is

630
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,160
immutable, it can't change, it's
timeless.

631
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,200
And so these things like huge
things, I'm not saying every,

632
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,040
you know, common Joe is going to
come up with these things.

633
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,400
But if if we kind of look at
life really critically and we

634
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,920
kind of lean on the people who
God has gifted, that way, you

635
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,920
can really see the force of
Romans, one where Paul says that

636
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,800
God's, you know, invisible
qualities have been clearly made

637
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,440
known by the things we can see.
Or Psalm 19 that says heavens

638
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,920
are pouring for speech night and
day like from what God has

639
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,600
created, he has made himself
known and Parmenides is is

640
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,440
hinting at that and and in class
I read through and we don't have

641
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360
to read through all this, but
there's lots of scripture that

642
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,400
we'll talk about.
You know, God creating

643
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,920
everything.
There is nothing made without

644
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,960
him that was made that in him
all the fullness of deity

645
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,800
dwelled he was before all
things, all things exist in him.

646
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,640
So all of these verses that
would be like what we'd take

647
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Parmenides and then sanctify
them.

648
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120
Then we would get these ideas
that God is those things.

649
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,120
And then then we we end up with
this, you know that we have

650
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,240
already talked about, but Yahweh
I am.

651
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520
He is the foundation of all
being.

652
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,600
I I I there's one thing to take
away like the I am everything is

653
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:28,400
like just wrapped up into this
name of Yahweh and he ended with

654
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,760
God is holy, holy, holy.
This this transcendence helps us

655
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000
think on those.
I think, I think everyone wants

656
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,680
to gravitate the other and it's
like good to think about the

657
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
transcendence.
Of you set apart, Yeah, you set

658
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,000
apart.
That, that, that is good.

659
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280
You think of Isaiah 6 in these
great passages and then you end

660
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,840
with with your name, which I
guess, I guess that means I just

661
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320
always have to say, Michael,
yeah, I always have to end with

662
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
a question because you explained
it.

663
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,160
What?
What is?

664
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,440
What does your name mean?
Yeah.

665
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400
So in Hebrew it would be
pronounced closer to like what

666
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080
we would, how we would pronounce
Mikhail Gorbachev's.

667
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:08,880
But Mikhail Mikhail, which would
mean me is like who the car is

668
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,159
is like an L we should know is
like El should I or you know,

669
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,360
all the other names of God is
God.

670
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,920
So it my name is a question like
who is like God and like it's a

671
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,400
rhetorical question.
There's no one like God.

672
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
He's set apart.
He is a singular being.

673
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Mike, cool, there you go.
There's always I, I always like,

674
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I like a good, good name.
What's a name mean?

675
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,760
I mean, people don't know what
their name means.

676
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I'm like, I'm devastated.
I'm like, you should just know

677
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this.
This is a good thing to to know.

678
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:39,600
That's a great way to end who is
like God and then be on the

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lookout.
Next week we'll kind of wrap

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this up.
Hit the other side, the eminence

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side of it.
So looking forward to that.

682
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,760
Thanks, Michael, for breaking
down some of this, this theology

683
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proper for us.
Awesome.

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