Wisdom Literature Part 1

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Michael Mott.
That's me.

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Do you do you have like a
kryptonite, a weakness?

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It could be anything.
I'm thinking specifically food

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related.
I have like one major weakness

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where I don't go crazy with like
sweets or desserts, but there's

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like 1 certain thing that I can
just.

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Eat like if it's there.
Dude, so, so much where it's

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it's like borderline not good
and it's like only this one

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thing.
And I can.

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I can't control myself.
Yeah, it's bizarre.

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Yeah, yeah, I do.
My my my mother-in-law likes to

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make it.
She knows.

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She knows her weakness.
Not fudgy brownies with vanilla

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ice cream.
It's like the combo, I could get

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2 huge bowls of that and it's
like you just feel miserable

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afterwards.
But it's like during it you, you

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feel really good.
Dude, mine is Krispy Kreme

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doughnuts.
Oh, I can.

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Like, I mean, in college I
could, I could knock out like a

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dozen of those like and I feel
terrible afterwards.

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Do you feel like like you like
like like kind of almost light

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headed because of the sugar
rush?

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Well, I don't do that anymore,
but we just got some like

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anymore.
Yeah.

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When I was in college, I would
we there was one right next to

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her.
I went to school and we would

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get that stuff a lot now.
So if you know if you get A's on

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report cards, because so when
the boys get report cards, just

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got report cards.
We.

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Went there and they and and
they, I think they hate us

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there.
I don't think the employees care

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'cause they're like burnout
teenagers who are like, I don't.

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Care what happens, Yeah.
They're zombies, they're moving

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very slow, but the Donuts are so
good.

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I'll wait there.
And we basically had like, you

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know, you pay for a dozen, get
one free slash Jaden and

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Jackson's report cards, try to
get all those.

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And then Leanne's birthdays in
January, we're supposed to get

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like 3 free doughnuts.
So we're just like trying to,

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we're like, we're like these
like we're living off of 40. 8

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doughnuts.
Like, yeah, yeah, for like,

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we're just taking advantage.
They're like you're trying to

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scam the system.
Like, it it got, it was bad

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because I think this is totally
allowed.

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But like, Leanne's got to do a
transaction and I have to do a

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transaction 'cause you can't
double up on certain things.

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So I don't know if people are
judging us.

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Hey, hey, we're doing what
we're, I have seen videos of

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like bodybuilders, like they're,
they're done with their

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competition and they've been,
what's it called when you're,

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you're cutting, cutting,
cutting, cutting.

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And so now like, and I've seen
them like take like 8 Donuts and

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they're Krispy Kremes and like
slam them down and then just

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start eating like 8 at a time.
It's crazy.

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Do you?
Do you ever know?

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That I, I, I am more in
moderation now, but I'm not

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going to lie to you.
Like last night I just had four

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in about 5 minutes.
Like like, and then I'm like,

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OK, I got to stop when I was
like looking at me and I'm like,

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I know, I know, but it's like,
but there's so, so that's like

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the one thing that's like man.
And it's really not fair because

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they are so light and fluffy.
You feel you really don't feel

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like.
What's the calories on one?

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I read it was like 190 cuz a.
194 Oh my head.

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That's true.
But I was like this, This should

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not be real.
Like there, it's like you're

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eating nothing.
I know I what, what amazed me

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when and I have I'll sometimes
I'll be counting calories.

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Sometimes I'm like, I'm not
counting calories.

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But when I start counting
calories, the thing that I cut

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out the most, not because I
don't like it, it's milk because

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it's so high in calories and,
and, and it's like I can't

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afford to drink, you know, a
tall glass of milk because.

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You're done.
You're like, you're like your,

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your, your meals got a lot less
for the rest of the day.

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Yeah, it's one of those things
too.

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And, and when I was younger, I'd
always be like, not that I was

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counting calories super closely,
but I'll be like, you'll just

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run a mile and you're like
running a mile's nothing like

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you gain like 200.
It's like you don't burn any

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calories.
Yeah.

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And I think it's you do I think
you do burn calories in the

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residual?
So if you worked out like if

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you're working or something,
you're.

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Then you're burning calories to
repair stuff.

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So it's not I think.
But yes, to your point, yeah you

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can't.
I've heard someone say you can't

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outrun your spoon because you
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You can put in way more calories
than you can exercise off.

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It is it is great.
Anyway, I just wanted to see

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because I, I feel I have remorse
because we just got so many

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Krispy Kreme.
I had like 4 last night.

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I just popped over there had
three more today and Lan's like

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say something for the kids.
I'm like there's plenty for the

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kids.
They got all there is but I'm

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like.
How many do the kids need?

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Yeah, how many they?
Need I mean one?

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Yeah.
If you can't eat 4, then how

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many are they eating?
Two or three, You know what I'm

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saying?
Right.

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Yeah, 2 is probably.
So what I hear you saying is

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when we're eating these things,
we need to be exercising some

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wisdom.
Do you?

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Yeah, have some discernment,
have some wisdom.

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What a great, great segue into
the topic of our podcast today.

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We're doing a Sunday school.
One of our Sunday school

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classes, adult discipleship
classes, is going over wisdom

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literature, a little
introduction.

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So let's go ahead and take it to
the next level.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
Wisdom.

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It's one of those things I think
we all, I need it.

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We all.
I always find myself like I'm

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never like I got too much
wisdom, right?

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Yeah.
You ever in that situation?

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I got it covered.
I am just man, I'm just kicking

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this out of the part too much.
I'm.

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Just now, I think, I think
that's a pretty universal

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feeling where it's like, man, I
wish I had more discernment for

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this situation.
Trying to navigate the right

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path forward.
Not not the exact same thing as

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understanding wisdom ownership,
but kind of use that as a

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jumping off point just to, you
know, get us thinking about it.

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Yeah, I've heard wisdom being
defined described as applied

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knowledge or applied
understanding.

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So it's like I know the right
thing and pair it up with the

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self-control do the right thing.
Yeah, 'cause those are two

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different things, right?
And, you know, I was kind of

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reflecting on this and, you
know, I think not breaking any

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news.
Everyone knows they should

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exercise more.
Everyone knows don't be on

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social media every hour of every
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Everyone knows these things are
bad for you.

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But I think most of us
overwhelmingly, like, don't do

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what we're supposed to do
because it's hard to factor that

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in.
You're busy, but, you know,

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everyone's like, oh, you feel
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Your risk for all these bad
things go down.

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You're not going to be
depressed.

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But I'm still like scrolling on
social media more than I should.

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And and I think, you know, that
that speaks to that.

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You know, wisdom is applied
knowledge.

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We know what to do.
We just don't always do it.

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I think that's really good.
And of course, there's only one

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book in the Bible that gives us
wisdom, Proverbs.

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So don't look for wisdom
anywhere else in the Bible.

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That's what I thought I heard
you say.

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Is that what you said?
That is a lie.

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And one of the things that got
me excited for this class is

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that, you know, trying to look
at all the wisdom books we have

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Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Job,
they, they really answer these

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big questions of life, but they
do so from a unique perspective.

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It's probably on purpose.
It's probably to show you.

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Think it wasn't a mistake?
By God, yeah.

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I don't think God messed messed
up because I think someone like

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Job could be like these
proverbs.

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I'm like nailing these proverbs,
but I don't feel like I've got

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health and wealth and prosperity
and success and it's like, OK,

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balancing these things out are
really a really good thing to do

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'cause I find myself I can be in
the proverbs all day.

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That's like a fun place to be.
And honestly, I'll read the

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first 3 chapters of Job.
I'll read the last chapter or

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two.
I'm there with you.

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The middle of Job is very
difficult because you don't

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know, Oh yeah, how you don't
know how to interpret this is

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God because it's some guy
talking to Job and it's like.

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How much weight do I say this is
good or not good?

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I think Joel should do a series
through Job where he has to he

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has to go verse by verse through
all of that, no?

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No, that that is great.
And to your point, we'll talk

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about this more in Proverbs.
Have you ever heard anyone, you

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know, preach verse by verse
through Proverbs?

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It's pretty impossible because
the topics repeat, but they're

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not together.
You kind of have to do it

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topically.
Right.

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And and that's like my I did
have a pastor who did kind of do

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it topically.
So he would say like here, you

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know, Proverbs has a lot to say
about money and he would kind of

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pull all the Proverbs about
money together.

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Or Proverbs has a lot to say
about, you know, adultery and

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lusting and he'd kind of pull
all those together or, you know,

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so but yeah, it's not you don't
go orderly because it's like,

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you know, this topic, this
topic, back to this topic.

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It's it's kind of it's all over.
And furthermore, we'll probably

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talk about this more in a
different lesson, but it's like

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when when it's like that Romans,
we can trace an argument, we can

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get that Jensen chart out.
We say, here's Paul's two

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questions here it we know Paul
is writing to a specific people

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at a specific time for a
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When proverbs are all scattered
like that, it's hard to grab on

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to a context.
And I think that makes it a

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little bit more challenging.
And a lot of the wisdom books

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are kind of like that in the
fact that for the most part, not

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exclusively, but we don't hear a
lot about Israel or covenants or

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temples or sacrifices.
Proverbs talks, nothing at all

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about prophets or priests.
Seem like that's a big deal in

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biblical theology.
We're just going to skip over

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that.
So some of this it could we know

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it's wisdom, but it seems
somehow disconnected.

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So my goal in this class is not
to answer every question on job

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or all of that because I don't
think.

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You can't do what you do with
myself now and.

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I know it's like, oh, you go
look for it.

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I need to.
I'm going to re listen to your

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Ecclesiastes sermon.
I know you preached a year or

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two ago or whatever because
Ecclesiastes there's like so

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many different interpretations
on certain things.

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It's like, how do you just give
people tools to study it?

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Yeah, I I mean, I just tell them
to use mine and that's the best

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interpretation and so.
That's what I'm going to listen

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to your servants so I can have
it have it all all nailed down.

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Talking about proverbs, I have
heard someone say you may know

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his name, Greg Cokel, but he he
laments that he's like, you know

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how many people are there that
you know that read a chapter of

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Proverbs a day corresponding to
the day of the month.

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I don't know if you've ever.
Heard. 31 Proverbs, whatever the

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day day is, just read that
chapter.

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And that's a great practice.
But like you said, there it is

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all over the place.
And he's like, they're so short

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and pithy.
He's like, that's almost too

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much for me.
Like I get overwhelmed.

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You walk.
Away.

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Yeah.
And and he's like, So what I do

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is I, I read half of a proverb a
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So I, I know this is going to
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like January through the January
1 through 31, read the first

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half of it, February, read the
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go back on March, read the first
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So if it's an odd month, you
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And that was his solution to it.

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And he's like, you know,
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to something like Jeremiah 2911,
where people like it would be do

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do you well to read the whole
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2820?
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To get all the context where
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Proverbs.
And there's not really a context

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to grasp there for most part.
You know, it talks about wisdom

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in some spots.
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woman.
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who kind of gets caught in
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I think that may be Proverbs 6
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So you have some sections that
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But then other than that, it's
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over.
No, that's great.

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That's great.
And we'll get into that more

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'cause that's like where my
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We've, we're like in, we're a
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So I can think a lot about
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about wisdom literature, this is
great too.

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I'm not gonna, we won't have to
spend time.

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But I, I show this hilarious
video of me just running into

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Juliana's car.
Not wise.

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I saw, I saw this.
I, you know, I got to hear about

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it, I guess secondhand because
Chloe was there and she was

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like, he was so crazy.
It was insane.

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It was a disaster, but trying to
focus around we'll we'll get

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into wisdom literature.
What's really interesting is,

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you know, property schools, yes,
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de facto wisdom proper,
universally accepted.

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Everything else is kind of like
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Different scholars are less.
Old Testament only.

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Well, it's up for debates.
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would throw James in there as.
Wisdom New.

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Testament Wisdom and then I
could see Song of Solomon wisdom

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in your relationships whether
you know you know, don't

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basically evoke romance too
early talks about that in some

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place and then how to properly
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that so you could talk you could
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Wisdom and a lot of people do I
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one class and do over a book,
but then I was like, oh, that's

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too much.
And you spread it out more and I

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was like, people want to hear
about Song of Solomon go to the

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mayor's class.
But it's.

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Yeah, exactly right.
Some people say, hey, Psalms

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through Song of Solomon wisdom
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much Hebrew poetry in that
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Some people are like first kings
one through 11 talks about

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Solomon's like that's wisdom
wonder because it talks about

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wisdom a lot.
So people are like, well, Song

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of Solomon's not wisdom
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We don't really use the word
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like, yeah, but it's a
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Solomon.
So you've got all these

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different things.
I spent time in that first I.

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Was just thinking one could
argue like Ruth, even though

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it's a history, not Ruth,
Esther.

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I know it's a history book.
It's kind of like practically

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you could see wisdom through
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So it's not poetry, so it's not
like the same, but there are

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other places where you're going
to see wisdom on display.

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That's exactly right.
So all that's to say, no one's

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really agreed outside of those
three books, what would consider

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the different categories.
Some people would say New

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Testament's out because we want
to think about this ancient Near

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Eastern light like a very hyper
specific Mesopotamian like

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Hebrew Semitic thing that would
have been like out of date those

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hundreds of years later.
So everyone's kind of different,

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but but really where wisdom
literature is united, they this

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part of scripture answers a lot
of life's big question like how

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do you live life well?
What kind of things matter?

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What should you pursue?
What kind of thing should you

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stay away from?
You know, why do bad things

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happen to good people?
Or why is there evil and

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suffering?
Or how does the world work?

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Are there patterns,
relationships, that kind of

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thing?
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Yeah, that's good.
And would you say that wisdom

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literature are promises?
Oh, see, this is the age-old

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question and this is really
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Maybe we can talk about it more
'cause you'll look at Proverbs

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and you're either a health,
wealth and prosperity teacher

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and you're like, you obey God,
you got $1,000,000 ship a new

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car or I you can be like Job and
have everything taken from you.

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And so I think your answers, you
can say what your thoughts are

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answers are.
It's either the long game, maybe

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not in this life, but the next,
because one of the premier like

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scholars that's alive today in
Psalms and Proverbs, and it's

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Bruce Waltke.
He's got he's got a lot of stuff

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out there.
He's got this awesome commentary

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that's very in depth.
He's basically saying, I don't

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get why all these people say
proverbs are probabilities, but

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not promises.
He's like, these are promises or

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like, what's the point of it?
Or he has like a he goes into a

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lot where, you know, if you're
saying that, then like, what's

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the point of it being the word
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Then you have this other guy,
Richard Belcher, who is a great,

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he's a professor at reform
theological Savonar.

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And he's basically saying things
like proverbs.

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They're context specific.
So in one context it might be

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true, but another might not be.
He looks at like this proverb,

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like answer a full corner in his
folly.

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And then right after that it
says like the opposite.

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And so it's very, it depends on
the life situation.

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And so it's not universal, but
they all are true.

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Right, Yeah, yeah, I guess I
what I what has helped me was I

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was under someone's teaching.
They were saying these are not

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promises, but they are life,
life principles.

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They're, they are general
principles that if you live your

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life according to them, your
life is going to be one that is

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marked by wisdom.
And it's not like, you know,

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'cause we've all seen and, and,
and I throw this out, but here's

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the kind of the cliche example,
You know, train up a child in a

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way he should go and he will not
depart from it when he is old.

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And I guess you could always
say, well, I guess those parents

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didn't train that child up.
But but you have like maybe six

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kids and one of them goes astray
and you're like, did that one

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really get completely different
parenting than the others?

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That's the likelihood of that is
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So I think that I think it's
good to think of these as

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general principles on life, how
to live your life well.

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And then they're, they're not
necessarily like a, it's not

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like a math problem, a calculus.
You, you get this, you put this

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in and you're gonna get this
result out just mechanically.

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Yeah, Yeah, I think, I think
that's pretty good that you do

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these things.
You can, if you work hard, you

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can expect to provide for your
family most of the time.

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There might be a situation where
like, you're in this, something

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happens and you're like, that's
bizarre.

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But I think that is the good
part of, you know, books like

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Ecclesiastes and you know, where
it's like, oh, this is all a

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paradox.
Like it should go this way, but

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it didn't.
A lot of these, all of this part

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of scripture is practical and,
and really one of the goals are

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I, I honestly, I don't like
poetry.

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I'm not into literature.
I struggle with imagination and

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creativity.
And so a lot of times I read

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through some of this, I'm just
like, like we were talking about

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like job.
I'm just like motoring through

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it because I'm like, what am I?
How am I making sense of this

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anyway?
So my goal with this class is

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just to maybe set up some basic
things to think about that might

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help you understand it better.
It's not going to be exhaustive

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or comprehensive, but maybe a
couple of little things.

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You can be like, oh, this makes
more sense.

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I kind of get what the author's
trying to say a little bit

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better.
Yeah, just putting tools in the

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tool bag to help.
That's right.

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People understand.
That's good.

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Because I know so little about
poetry, all this is like, oh,

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this is so, so great.
Great to me.

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Some key features of wisdom
Psalms.

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So spent the first time talking
a lot about Psalms, which I was

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people probably like, why aren't
we in Proverbs, Ecclesiastes or

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or Joe?
But I thought it's a good place.

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People are familiar with the
Psalms and having an

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introduction to Hebrew poetry.
And we did do that's right.

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I think it's good.
So if you go back to around

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Thanksgiving time, we did do a
podcast that kind of did an

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overview of Psalms.
I heard you teach a lot of that

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in this class.
Yes, I stole a lot of it from

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our podcast.
Right, Yeah.

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So if you didn't hear that, it
would be good to go back and

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hear that because there are
there is structure to the book

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of Psalms.
There are different types of

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Psalms, but we we've already
covered that fairly recently.

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So go back to around
Thanksgiving and you'll see us

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cover that.
But one of those types was a

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Wisdom Psalm.
Wisdom Psalm and, and there's a

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good chunk of wisdom Psalms, I
don't know the number, maybe

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like 15 or something.
And then there's probably like

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another 10 or 15 that maybe
aren't primarily wisdom psalms,

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but they have wisdom components
to them, you know, like a Psalm,

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like Psalm 119.
A lot of people are going to say

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that's a Torah Psalm, but in
there it's saying, you know, God

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mix wise, the simple and you
know, it it it, it alludes to

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the fear of the Lord's beginning
of knowledge.

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That's a big theme.
So a lot of these things go

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together.
And I guess before we get into

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the Psalms and some of this
wisdom literature, some things

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to keep in mind are probably a
lot of the same things you would

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think about with English poetry.
What kind of things make it

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different from prose?
You know, this figurative

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language, rhyming scheme, roses
are red, violets are blue.

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There's a million, you know,
poems based based on that meter.

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Word play.
I think the hard thing is in our

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English translations, it's hard
to pick up on word play and puns

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unless you have a commentary or
something pointing it out to

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you.
You'd be like, oh, I didn't get

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that.
But if you saw that, you'd be

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like, oh, this is making a
points.

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Right.
And Speaking of, you know,

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things losing there.
So if you go to a Shakespearean

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play OK over in England or
probably anywhere, you're

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probably going to hear it being
read with a modern day English

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accent.
Oh, instead of the like how

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they.
Yeah.

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But I heard recently that the
closest accent that is around

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today, yeah, as to when he was
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That's.
Hilarious.

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So they were saying that the I
am at Pentameter that he wrote.

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So that's what that's what you
know, shout out to all those

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English teachers that drilled
that into our minds.

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I am at pentameter.
The one thing I remember like

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that's funny. 5 da da da da da
da da.

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But it is better in a an A
southern.

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Now there's extremes to the
there's, there's not just a

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single southern accent, but you
know, probably that's great.

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Probably my accent, you know, is
you know.

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Shakespearean, yeah.
Southern, that's influenced a

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little bit by that Midwestern.
You know that this is a sweet

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spot, yeah.
Yeah.

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Well, and and and the point in
all that is if if from

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Shakespeare, same language, we
get just a little bit of drift

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over.
A.

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Few years, we're talking about
thousands of years ago.

448
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,000
Different language, different
contexts at the time.

449
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920
There's going to be some misses
that we don't get.

450
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,560
That's a great analogy because,
yeah, you've read a Shakespeare

451
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,440
play and I don't understand even
some of their colloquialisms,

452
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,280
and it's not been that long ago.
Can you imagine?

453
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,640
Yeah, God in his Providence it
when it comes to Hebrew poetry,

454
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,120
the chief characteristic is
parallelism, which I think is

455
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,400
pretty amazing because you can
see those couple, what's those

456
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,800
two lines where you have two
lines or so, usually 2 lines

457
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,000
where words or phrases in one
line correspond to words and

458
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320
phrases in the other line.
And you can see the relationship

459
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,040
where you might have it being
synonymous.

460
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,320
They're saying the same thing,
different words, antithetical,

461
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,520
synthetical, these kind of
things.

462
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,600
And I think most of us as you're
reading you kind of whether

463
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,120
you're labeling them, you kind
of say, OK, this isn't, you

464
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:40,800
know, opposite, this is the
same, this is building.

465
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:44,560
So things to keep in mind.
And like we talked about in that

466
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,160
Psalms podcast, Michael's
referencing chiasm, that that's

467
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,400
a good thing to keep in mind as
well because we just don't think

468
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,440
in those.
Terms, yeah, and I think we were

469
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,920
kind of talking about a little
of this before the podcast,

470
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,920
before we even because this is
our second podcast.

471
00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:02,520
So it's been just a a second,
but when I first was introduced

472
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,560
to the concept of chiasm, I was
in seminary.

473
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,160
I was in there in Old Testament,
one or two wherever this fell.

474
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,520
And I just thought, you know,
people trying to pull more out

475
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,120
of the Bible than this there.
Can we not just read the Bible

476
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:18,160
and take it at face value?
Let's like, OK, but the, you

477
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,480
know, from that first exposure,
you know, maybe back in 2013 to

478
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,320
the day I've really got my eyes
have been opened and so much to

479
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,520
the point that I've thought, you
know, if you're not familiar

480
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,320
with the, the structure of a
chiasm, at least on the lookout,

481
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,800
you might mistake what the main
idea of a Psalm is.

482
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,040
Because if you think about it
from like all of us, well, I'd

483
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,240
say all of us, most of us have
been, you know, gone through

484
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,880
this process of writing and it's
prose.

485
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,720
But you know, what do you do?
You put your thesis statement up

486
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,920
front and then you provide some
supporting paragraphs and then

487
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,680
you have a conclusion where your
thesis is stated strongly again

488
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,720
and you kind of cite all those
conclusions.

489
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,120
So really the important things
are at the beginning and at the

490
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,680
end and that and that's man,
it's just not how it is.

491
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800
I'm not saying it's not
important, but kind of in the

492
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,600
middle is where you have these
kind of the meteor weightier

493
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,800
kind of parts of what's
important in in when you're

494
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,360
dealing with a chiastic
parallelism.

495
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Yeah, that's that.
That's such a good point and

496
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,000
just something to be aware of,
are you?

497
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,120
Not that you can't like you
can't understand the Bible

498
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:34,560
without wrong with a chiasm, but
it does like Orient yourself to

499
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,240
what's the author saying.
This is either the main point or

500
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,800
sometimes it's like a turning
point.

501
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600
It's like something that you
need to pay attention to.

502
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760
Right.
And I was recently in a class, I

503
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,120
won't say where or when, just
just recently where a Psalm was

504
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,280
being taught.
And like, I was like, this is

505
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,520
chiastic in nature.
And like the, the, the teacher

506
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,600
did not know that wasn't there.
And so like it was confusing

507
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,280
because you have these like the
beginning and end were parallel

508
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,720
and, and they're like, why would
he be saying this again?

509
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,840
I'm like, Oh, I know why he's
saying it.

510
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
And I, I didn't want to speak up
and like, but I was like, he's

511
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,880
restating this.
Like this is a restatement of

512
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,320
this in a slightly different
way.

513
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,800
And it's emphasizing this top
point and you work your way in

514
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760
and here's boom.
Here's his main point.

515
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,200
But like, they didn't go away
not knowing what the song was

516
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280
saying.
But there's the second level of

517
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840
organization in that song that
they were missing.

518
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,640
Man, that very, very well said.
So let's maybe look at a couple

519
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
of wisdom psalms.
I'm going to skip down Michael

520
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,640
to 8:00 just because everyone
knows Psalm, one very common

521
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Psalm, and it's at the beginning
of the Psalter on purpose to set

522
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,240
the tone.
And this is something that

523
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,200
wisdom literature does a lot.
It'll set out.

524
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,080
You got you got a way to live
your life.

525
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,080
You got a couple of choices.
You can live righteously.

526
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,600
You can be like a tree planted
by rivers of water.

527
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,160
You can be stable, you can be
prosperous, or you can walk this

528
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,200
other way where you'll perish,
you're unstable, you know, and,

529
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,160
and to be on this righteous
path, you need to do things like

530
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080
meditate on God's word, hang out
with the right people, you'll be

531
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,880
blessed.
And that's a key kind of big

532
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,400
picture overview that you've got
choices to make.

533
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,880
And so thought we would start
there just because people know

534
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Psalm 1.
And so just know that that's a

535
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,800
wisdom Psalm.
Yeah, so were you gonna.

536
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,720
So part of it is this imagery,
'cause you know, we're not, you

537
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,280
know, part of it is, are, are
the wicked really blown away

538
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,480
like chaff and like they're
like, or are the righteous

539
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,960
really a tree that's firmly
planted next to streams?

540
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,480
No, but those ideas, especially
in that culture where water is

541
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,400
scarce and you see a tree that's
dying versus a tree, man, that

542
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,680
it's by the stream.
It's, it's really, it's, it's

543
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,640
always got its fruit.
And then in the harvest culture,

544
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,400
you know, we don't want that
chaff.

545
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,920
Let it.
Blow away and just be gone like

546
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,960
it's just done with that.
That was some strong imagery for

547
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,680
them.
Oh, that.

548
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,400
That is so good.
Another familiar Psalm, Psalm

549
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,760
19.
Michael Mott brings this up very

550
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,960
frequently, right?
Yeah, yeah.

551
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600
A lot of people say this is a
Torah Psalm as well, because the

552
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,200
second-half of it focuses a lot
on Torah and it really focuses

553
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760
on both sides of it, you know,
natural revelation, special

554
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,000
revelation.
And so that's why a lot of

555
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,040
people consider this a wisdom
Psalm.

556
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,080
But that's one we're just
familiar with.

557
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880
And it kind of shows us where to
find truth.

558
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480
It's in the fear of the Lord.
And it's also saying you can

559
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,320
find truth in, in natural
theology.

560
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760
You might need special
revelation, but you can find

561
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,360
wisdom just baked into the
fabric of the universe too, if

562
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,440
you study it.
So with that, maybe we can hit a

563
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,680
couple of the more less well
known Psalms.

564
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,720
We can go through one, we can go
through 2.

565
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,760
In my class, we had time for
one.

566
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,200
I looked at Psalm 49 and it hits
these big themes of, you know,

567
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Freak's a lot like Ecclesiastes
at some points.

568
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,520
Sky, the psalmist, he has a
problem.

569
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800
He's looking at these people who
are, you know, they seem to be

570
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,040
doing well, but they're trusting
not in God, but in their riches,

571
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,600
and he's kind of grappling with
it.

572
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,880
One thing I'll say, and maybe if
you want to read, so I don't

573
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,840
know how much we want to read or
not.

574
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,640
The problem with these are
they're kind of long.

575
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,680
So it's like challenging to know
how you want to unpack it.

576
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,440
But a lot of wisdom literature,
it's kind of a paradox to me.

577
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
They're not unpacking like
they're not blowing your mind or

578
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,520
something you've ever heard of.
Cause a lot of it, I think

579
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,120
wisdom, I want to know the
answer to something hyper

580
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,960
specific.
It's really saying that

581
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,800
something you probably already
know to be true.

582
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960
God is who you should be
trusting in.

583
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,400
But let's meditate on that.
Let's draw it out because even

584
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560
though we know that's the case,
we find ourselves drifting and

585
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920
we're trusting and we're getting
all bent out of shape because we

586
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,320
didn't, we don't have our
resources.

587
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
And it's like reorienting
reorienting us on stuff we know

588
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,800
to be true.
No, I, I think that's good.

589
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,960
And just to take a short aside,
there's a Psalm that says, you

590
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,560
know, I lift my eyes up to the
hills.

591
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,640
Where does my help come from?
My help come from the Lord.

592
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,280
A lot of people, I, I think, you
know, the high places where,

593
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,880
where the false gods were in the
gods of that land were

594
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,920
worshipped.
You know, you see people that

595
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,120
will say, you know, they did
good, but they didn't tear down

596
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,360
the, the high places and stuff
like that.

597
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,560
So I think the true
understanding of that is, you

598
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760
know, I look up to those places.
Where's my help come from?

599
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,720
My help comes.
From.

600
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,680
The maker of heaven and earth.
And it's probably not classified

601
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,440
as a wisdom Psalm.
So I think that's in the psalms

602
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,200
of somewhere.
So it's probably one of those

603
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Thanksgiving psalms.
But you see wisdom that we know

604
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,600
that's false gods.
We don't trust in there, but

605
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,880
it's just a reminder our help
daily comes from the Maker of

606
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,720
the heavens and the earth, not
those false.

607
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Places and we all like know
that's true, but it's like for

608
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320
whatever reason we need it's
like so basic.

609
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,720
You can ask my 6 year old he's
gonna get that right.

610
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,320
But it's like we don't live our
lives like that all the time.

611
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680
We catch ourselves, and that's
what's so good about wisdom

612
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680
literature.
That's helpful.

613
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800
So I don't know what we want to
do with Psalm 49.

614
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,400
What I mean, do we just want to
hit the high points?

615
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Do you want to read through some
of it?

616
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,760
What do you want?
To do yeah, let's hit the high

617
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320
points.
Is is Psalm 49 chiastic?

618
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,200
You know, some people say it is
what what I use this as an

619
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,040
illustration for was it uses a
refrain or a chorus.

620
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,120
I think we all know what that
is.

621
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Chris Tomlin made it very
apparent that he can write a

622
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,080
chorus like no other.
Like I think Babylon be some

623
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,120
pretty funny stuff about him
writing choruses.

624
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,680
But so anyway, some people will
make a Kyle's model.

625
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960
To me it's not as apparent, but
it is definitely, I think,

626
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,520
symmetrical, right?
So there's three stanzas.

627
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,720
So it's kind of three different
meteor sections that are

628
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,240
separated by these two refrains.
Verse 12 and 20 and are those is

629
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,200
so verse 12 is but man in his
pomp will not endure.

630
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,680
He is like the beast that
perish, and verse 20 is men, and

631
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520
his pomp yet without
understanding is like the beast

632
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,560
that will perish.
So say almost word for word the

633
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,160
same.
Yeah.

634
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720
And that's like, actually the
point is that they're almost

635
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,280
word for word.
They're not word for word,

636
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,440
though.
And so you should be thinking,

637
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,200
why are they like basically the
same, but just like a little bit

638
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
different?
That's like like Chris Tomlin

639
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600
should do that, like write a
chorus, but and some songs do

640
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,800
that.
They like change it.

641
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200
And it's like maybe realizing or
consummating something Christ

642
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,760
did or it changes and it's like,
oh, there's some meaning in

643
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,040
there.
But that's definitely true in

644
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,880
this Psalm as well.
Right.

645
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520
And is this is this the almost
the same where it's a play on

646
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,600
word?
It's a word, yeah.

647
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,200
In the Hebrew it's one letter
different.

648
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,200
The Hebrew word for will not
remain and the word without

649
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
understanding depending on your
translation, is the same word

650
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,680
except for like 1A letter and so
that would like stand out to a

651
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Hebrew person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

652
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,040
So I remember you bringing that
out.

653
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440
And then there's three stanzas
that are there and the three

654
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,200
standas are dealing with wealth,
then death and then the

655
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,640
inevitability of our death.
Is that is that right?

656
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680
Yeah, I, I, I think you're
nailing it to give you a like a

657
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
high level overview versus one
through 4.

658
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,440
I think we could even say that's
an introduction.

659
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,680
What wisdom does well is it does
not discriminate.

660
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,600
It's not saying, hey, Jews, this
is for you or Gentiles.

661
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,440
It's like here, everybody listen
to me, high, low, poor, rich.

662
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920
It usually has multiple
audiences.

663
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400
You read Proverbs, they're
talking to the, the foolish, the

664
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
simple, the youth, the wise.
They're talking to everyone.

665
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,240
You can interpret their messages
and, and go the wrong way with

666
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,640
it, but they're calling out
wisdoms, calling out to be

667
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,960
heard.
And you might not like the

668
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400
message if you're rich, it might
be, oh, I need to be warned

669
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,680
about this, but if you're poor,
you might feel comforted.

670
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640
And so multiple messages because
the audience is everybody.

671
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000
And then really the psalmist in
this first verse, Some people

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
say it's the second verse.
It depends on if you count the

673
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,480
1st 4 verses as a intro or not.
It depends on how you want to

674
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,360
classify it, but verses 5
through 11 can be averse and

675
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,160
then verses 13 through 19 can be
averse.

676
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,320
And it kind of unpacks that way.
Almost perfectly symmetrical if

677
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,760
you count the 1st 4 as an intro.
And in the beginning what we

678
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,560
see, or verses 5 through 11 and
12 is that you know, people who

679
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,800
cheat, who sin, who trust in
their wealth, they're doing

680
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800
well.
And but the whole time the

681
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,360
psalmist knows what is right.
Verse 7 is a key verse he says I

682
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360
he knows this to be true.
Truly no man can ransom another

683
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,720
or give the OR give to God the
price of his life for the ransom

684
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,800
of their life is costly and can
never suffice.

685
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,360
So he knows he's like these
people are doing wrong, but this

686
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680
is bothering me.
This is causing me a lot of

687
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840
trouble and anything gets to
that course man in his pomp or

688
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680
his wealth or his honor that's
not going to remain.

689
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
He is like beast, that parish,
and it starts to sound a whole

690
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160
lot like Ecclesiastes because I
think we're always trying to

691
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,200
make the point we're not like
the animals.

692
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,720
The solemnist is saying we're
actually a lot like the animals,

693
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
which is depressing, right?
Yeah, especially if you don't

694
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,440
live if, if it's just
horizontally, horizontally

695
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,640
connected, we're not connected
vertically, then we are exactly

696
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,400
like the beast.
And that's.

697
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,640
What he's saying if you're
trusting in your wealth, it

698
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,360
can't save you.
Your life is too costly to

699
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,480
redeem.
So then he transitions to the

700
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,360
second stanza or third stands,
however you want to look at it

701
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,880
and what he's going to say in
verse 15, kind of a key verse.

702
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,640
It parallels with verse 7.
Instead of truly, you know,

703
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600
wealth can't ransom, he says,
but God will ransom my soul from

704
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
the power of shale.
He will receive me.

705
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,880
And then we get to the chorus at
the end.

706
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Man at his pomp, yet without
understanding is like the beast

707
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680
that perish.
And what he's saying is if you

708
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400
don't have wisdom, if you don't
have understanding, you don't

709
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,120
know who God is, can't redeem
you.

710
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,800
You are like the beast and that
is depressing.

711
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Right.
Yeah, Yep.

712
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,400
No, I think that's good.
And there's this word in here

713
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,800
that I see that's the name of a
a band that used to be very.

714
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Sons of Core, we're a big fan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

715
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Big fan of this band.
Saila.

716
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,160
Saila.
Yeah, so.

717
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,280
Yeah, I, I made a note on this
because we, I think people think

718
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400
they know what it means.
And they might not know what

719
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,320
they might know what it means,
but I don't think anyone really

720
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,960
knows with 100% confidence what
it means because really we just

721
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,840
transliterate it from the Hebrew
because we don't really know.

722
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,120
We don't really have a word for
it.

723
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,280
And I think we think we know,
but it is interesting looking

724
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,159
over church history, the
different viewpoints.

725
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:20,000
What I read was it was a
instruction for the tuba, the

726
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,440
tuba choir to start playing.
That's where the tubas come in.

727
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,560
That is what Justin Martyr was a
big fan of the tuba.

728
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,639
He said that it, it is pretty
funny.

729
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,480
You look at like what I looked
up a quote from Jerome from like

730
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,960
the 304 hundreds Vulgate guy and
he was basically like this word

731
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,880
and a lot of the early church
fathers were like this word

732
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,159
means always or everlasting.
It's like reaffirming what it's

733
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,040
saying might be true.
Could be like saying Amen.

734
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:45,480
Exactly.
Yeah, which I'm like, I could

735
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,520
see that.
Yeah, it's something you're

736
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:54,120
like, OK, you're reinforcing a
Jewish dictionary from hundreds

737
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,040
of years ago was looking at.
We're saying that we think this

738
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,040
is maybe a time for the
instruments to play with more

739
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,360
vigor.
Maybe it means to exalt or to

740
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,880
lift up.
So tubas.

741
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,000
So yeah, translation tubas and
then I think a lot of us in the

742
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,280
modern era, we take our cues
from the Septuagint when they

743
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,160
translated, they translate for
the Greek word that is the

744
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Hebrew word Salah, which is
close to say less.

745
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,400
They maybe, I thought maybe it,
that's what they were going for

746
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,400
and that means to pause or
reflect.

747
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520
And maybe people aren't, maybe
there's a musical interlude in

748
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,080
there too as you're pausing,
reflecting.

749
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,640
So these three are not totally
disconnected.

750
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,280
It probably means something like
that.

751
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,240
I what I what I hear you saying
is too.

752
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,880
We should just write in
Michael's translation you're

753
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,120
putting together as a bank 22,
insert 2.

754
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Pause.
It's reflection.

755
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840
It's the power.
It's it's all those things.

756
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
It's good, yeah.
No, I, I think, I think that

757
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120
Psalm 49, you read it and you're
like, oh, it sounds like

758
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Ecclesiastes.
We probably don't have the time,

759
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,160
the time to get into Psalm 73,
but it's very similar.

760
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,800
You read that and it is like
Psalm 49.

761
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,520
It's, I don't know if it's a
chiasm or not.

762
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,440
It might be, it's very
symmetrical, but it's more like

763
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
kind of like this antithetical.
You got one perspective, then it

764
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,240
shifts.
But some of those verses line up

765
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,480
where it's like they shift.
I trust in my wealth, I trust in

766
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,920
God, and it's almost like those
line up.

767
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,360
So maybe it's like an
antithetical.

768
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,960
What do they call that?
Bruce Waltke calls it a Janus or

769
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,760
Janus for that Greek God for
January that's two faced or

770
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,440
whatever that's like, it is
parallel, but it is more of the

771
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,080
antithetical.
He's featured in some movies

772
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,560
too, you know, 2 faced.
Gotcha.

773
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,800
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
And so it might be more along

774
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,160
those lines that I think that's
a good introduction, gets us a

775
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,360
good, a good start to engaging
thinking about wisdom

776
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200
literature.
Well, I think that's good.

777
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,000
And what I'm going to do out of
this, and I encourage our

778
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:57,040
listeners to do this as well, is
maybe if there is a problem or

779
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,520
difficulty that you're going
through to maybe write some

780
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,640
biblical truth that's good that
that you could support from like

781
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,480
wisdom literature or something.
And then maybe write it in a

782
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,880
couple different ways, you know,
and write that.

783
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,840
And then maybe give some
supporting reasons why we know

784
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,120
that that's true.
And maybe write that a couple

785
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,760
different ways.
Put that on top and then bottom

786
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120
of what we write.
And then, and then maybe 'cause

787
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,720
that's what I'm going to do
because.

788
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,400
And then maybe you can just go
out and 'cause you can work and

789
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,280
maybe build out something that's
chiastic because I think it will

790
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,520
help 'cause I, I, I, I feel like
I need to kind of train my mind

791
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,440
to see this better.
And how better to train your

792
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,720
mind to see it and to kind of
then to kind of to work through

793
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,000
it.
I think it could be as simple as

794
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,960
that.
I, I love that idea to kind of

795
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960
think in those ways.
I said it in the Sunday school

796
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,440
class.
I didn't say it here yet, but

797
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,680
I've read in a book, I did not
back check this, but 70% of the

798
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,280
words that come out of Jesus
mouth are either a chiasm or a

799
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,360
proverb.
I believe this or a parable

800
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,280
'cause that's a lot of texts.
So that probably evens out the

801
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
numbers a little bit.
But it's kind of wisdom esque in

802
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960
that it's not super
straightforward and it's written

803
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,080
a lot in the same structure.
So I think that is good to to

804
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,920
think along those lines.
A little bit might might help us

805
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,800
think that way because I, I
think it's so foreign to our our

806
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,720
ways.
And I'm in my Bible study.

807
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,720
I'm in the Gospels right now.
And so you'll read some from

808
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:29,600
Matthew.
It's.

809
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,840
It's chronological.
And you know, Matthew, it's just

810
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,720
written different.
He's writing to a different

811
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,480
audience with different genre
expectations than than we do.

812
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,760
Like he, you know, time lapses,
stuff like, Yep, this, this fig

813
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,600
tree on that very same day was
cursed.

814
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Where, you know, I think it's
Luke breaks it apart.

815
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,840
It's like he cursed it at night.
They came back the next morning.

816
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,080
It was cursed and so it's not
wrong, it's just different ways.

817
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,800
And so, you know, helping us
kind of get there, I think can

818
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,640
help connect Scripture to us
better.

819
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,720
I like it.
I love it.

820
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,280
I want I want more wisdom,
Michael.

821
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,520
So maybe we'll we'll get some
along the way.

822
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,320
All right, so that's our take.
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823
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520
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824
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825
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