Jan. 20, 2025

You Are Special | Romans 12:3-8

You Are Special | Romans 12:3-8

Episode 100


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In this podcast Michael and Zach look at Paul's treatment of spiritual gifts in Romans 12.


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So been back from duck hunting
almost exactly a week.

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We got in late, well, late late
last Monday, early Tuesday

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morning, by the time I got to my
house.

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I heard it was profitable slash
cold slash snowy.

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It was, yeah.
So.

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Like best, best one ever.
I'm not saying you guys have not

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done well, but it's been like
good, maybe not bad, kind of in

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the middle.
And this one was like, amazing.

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Yeah, I guess you could by the
numbers, definitely the most,

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the best one ever is our first
morning we got a limit, A5 men

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limit.
Lee was there for a little bit

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and then he left.
So we don't really know how

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much, how many he killed.
And and then we found a frozen

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Drake Mallard from probably the
day before, 'cause sometimes

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they swim off and it was so cold
it was like frozen.

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So we're like this is this is
fine, we will.

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'Cause I heard you were saying
like you had a different crew

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this year, that was better luck
than your crew from last year.

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Is that what you were saying?
Well, it was basically it was

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the same crew minus a couple.
Who?

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That's what I'm getting at.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
You're saying they're bad luck?

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No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.

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No, but yeah, so we really went
down for the snow, 'cause that

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snow pushes them.
And the morning that it snowed,

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we saw tons and tons in the air
and none of them came to us.

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So it was the morning before the
morning of the snow that we did

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our best.
And then then there were a

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couple days that we got, you
know, 7, seven, I think 13 on

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one day that.
Sounds pretty good, yeah.

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Yeah, when there's some days in
time faster, you get one all day

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and it's like, oh, those are
tough days.

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Yeah, 'cause you're out, you're
out in the elements.

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It's probably.
I mean, I'm sure it's fun, but

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it's also cold.
Right, right.

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Yeah, and couple big things
happen.

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You make me notice this.
I didn't notice it until now.

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Elite.
Not just duck calls, but elite

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duck calls.
So that was that was a big

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turning point in my
transformation, my growth as a

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duck hunter, because I had a
duck call that I got based on

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Clayton's recommendation.
He's like, this was my first

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beginning one it, you know, it's
not the most expensive, but you

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know, you can get it kind of see
and play 'cause you may, you may

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not want to buy $150.00 duck
call out of the gate.

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And man, that duck call, I did
everything that I, I could on it

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and I just could not get it to
sound good.

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And I thought, maybe I'm just
not.

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Cutting the duck call.
And there's this place in

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Searcy, like 13 miles from where
we grew up in Bald Knob that my

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father in law's been, he talks
about every time we go.

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They're like, oh, did you have
you ever gone to that place?

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You ever gone to the place?
And so we had the the morning

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that we got our limit, we had
because you're done hunting,

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you're done because we follow
the rules.

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Some people get their room in
the morning and they just like

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and then they go back out in the
afternoon and you know, and

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that's not that's not legal.
Yeah.

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So we had some time, was like,
OK, let's go to this duck

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hunting, this duck calling
place.

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So got there and it was kind of
comical because Clayton's really

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the only one who calls a lot.
And so this guy, it was just

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kind of awkward.
He's just like kept giving these

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calls to Clayton, like try this
one, try this one, try this one.

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And he's like, this one's
$150.00, this one's $140.

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And he's just calling away.
Yeah, yeah.

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And he's like.
And finally he goes, we do have

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the injection molded fancy word
for plastic that he's like,

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those are $40.
And I was like, OK, I'm gonna, I

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gotta not only do I need an, a
call, but you know, I, I feel

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like I, you know, I brought us
here.

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So I was like, OK, I will get,
you know, I was like, which one

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out of the plastic ones would
you recommend?

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So I got it changed.
Game.

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It was a game changer, Yeah.
And so much to the fact that

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there was a time when some
ducks, you know, Clayton wasn't

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specifically ready.
And he was like, Michael, get on

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the duck call.
Never would have said that in.

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Wow, Clayton gave you the green
light.

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You're an elite duck.
Call from Get that, Get that.

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Get those people to sponsor this
podcast.

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And one time called in four.
Man.

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Gadwall.
Oh yeah, I love those ducks.

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Two of them got feet down in the
water.

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Now I'll just.
That may sound great to someone,

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but Gadwall's, Gaddy's, they're
not the smartest ducks, so

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they're a little bit easier to
bring in than than maybe a

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Mallard.
No, it's a little bit more I'm.

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Going to say every, I know you
don't have the duck call with

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you, but can you into the
microphone?

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The noise that you would try to
make in the duck call just for

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the audience?
I think the audience would love

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to hear this since you're an
elite duck collar.

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Now, Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Well, we could talk about

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Inharmonic dissonance and and
and what's needed because really

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you need 2 frequencies that are
kind of close to each other or a

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frequency that fights with
another frequency to make that

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that duck sound, that quack
sound.

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Cannot understand it unless I
hear it.

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Yeah, give me try to make.
It no, that's good.

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I'm not good, all right, I'm
trying but.

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Out of that, out of that one day
we were duck hunting and Curtis

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Clayton's brother was with us.
And they were it was not like a

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big, I don't want to make this a
bigger squabble than what it

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was, But there was some this
they were like jokingly in a

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disagreement about something.
And I hear Clayton turn to

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Curtis and say stop being a
worker of iniquity.

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So who say say, who's that?
Clayton says this stop being a

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worker of iniquity.
And I was like, that's great.

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So, you know, maybe 5-6 episodes
ago, I don't know how many you

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had these half baked ideas and I
thought maybe 1/2 baked idea is

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to to come up with some
biblically based insults or cut

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downs, you know, or admonitions.
That's.

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Actually sounding fully big to
me.

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I'm liking.
Your heads out, let's do it.

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So I did some research and here
are some, here are some, some

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that you might want 'cause you
want to.

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We're always, let's get
meditating on the word, quoting

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scripture, letting scripture
influence your life.

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So, you know, if you have, you
know, someone that you just

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can't stand anymore or
something, you could just say

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you son of a perverse and
rebellious woman that that could

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go over pretty good.
That's a That's a good one for.

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All the men out there, if your
wives are just not acting right,

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they've all been there.
Yeah.

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You just pull a proverb at at
them like you're a gold ring and

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a pig snout.
You know, I think that would

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really help them build them.
Was that in the Marriage class,

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Tim?
That's what that's.

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What Tim was saying or, or this
one.

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This is a slight paraphrase of
Job 19.

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Your breath disgust your wife,
everyone in your family turns

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away.
Young children can't stand you.

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And when you come near, they
make fun.

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So.
That that's a mouthful, but I

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like.
It it's a zinger.

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I like how you know, if it's not
formal enough, pull up the old

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KJV if you're feeling a little
loose, let's get NLT.

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Let's get the message out there.
You can have some fun with it.

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You know that's.
Right, Just skipping around

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here, like if you have someone
who's making too big of an idea,

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you know, like, hey, this is not
that big of a deal.

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Don't tell them that.
Say you strain at a gnat, but

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swallow a camel.
You know that's Jesus's.

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Word.
I love that.

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Just keep scripture on our own.
This is good, I love it.

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Here are some questionable ones.
You know, we we tend to take out

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some of the innuendo or some of
the like we paraphrase.

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So I won't, I won't.
I'll just say it and then you

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can kind of think.
But remember when Rhea Boehm was

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was under pressure, like from
his wise counsel and his

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friends.
And he says this, my little

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finger is thicker than my
father's loins.

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So if you research that he's
he's, he's saying something a

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little bit.
I could see that.

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A little bit, but you know,
maybe that's a cut down you

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could.
If you need to do it, yeah, it's

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probably better than the more
explicit version.

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Right.
Yeah, that's right.

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And then finally, here's another
one of the questionable ones.

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You you could do.
Oh.

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Do we need to put like an E on
this podcast?

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Like like 1. 2nd This is what
the Assyrians to the men on

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Jerusalem's wall, they say, has
my master sent me to speak these

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words to your master and to you
and not to the people sitting on

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the wall who are doomed to eat
their own dung and drink their

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own urine.
It's, it's like, that's, that's

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so you can be like, man, you're
doomed to eat your own dung and

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drink your own urine.
That's that's a little bit

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strong, but it's it's biblical.
We want to keep it biblical.

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That's great.
That's great.

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Honestly, all much better than
what what you might want to say.

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So, you know, I like, I like it
a lot.

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We're heads that we need some
T-shirts made and we need we.

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There's a lot of ways.
To merch, Yeah, yeah, get some

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merch.
Oh, that's good.

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Well, I think, you know, that
that ties in well with spiritual

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gifts.
That calling might be your

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spiritual gifts.
You know, quoting Scripture

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could be so much spiritual
gifting.

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I like when we, when we play
volleyball, sometimes I like to

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say pastor's got the gift of
service as he spikes it.

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Not pastoral gifts, but yeah, I
love it.

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Great, great banter made a lot
packed in.

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I'm loving it.
What what the love the duck

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hunting love it all.
We're going to jump into Romans

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12/3 through 8 looking at this
sermon titled You're Special.

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You are special.
Let's take it to the next level

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from the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
All right, you are special

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Romans 12/3 through 8.
And I wasn't here for this

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sermon, but I did listen to it
did take some notes.

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We were nice.
We haunted this morning and then

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we went to church.
So we we did both.

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Nice, I was gonna ask.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Glad you're on the but I bet at
your church service that you

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went to, were you given a puzzle
piece?

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We were not given a puzzle
piece.

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No, no.
I.

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Wonder how many I wonder did we
what did we buy one puzzle that

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was like a 500 piece puzzle.
I didn't look at what I saw the.

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Pieces in the thing Wednesday
when we came in and they looked

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like they were from different
puzzles.

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Yeah, it means just cause Pastor
hell up his piece, and that was

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not from the same puzzle my
piece was from, but it was like

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a normal 1.
He had like the awesome puzzle

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piece that was like coolly
shaped.

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But something Pastor Joel does
well is object lessons.

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You know he's gonna he's gonna
find out a way to make you

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remember his sermon.
That's right.

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Yeah.
And so he, Joel, was all excited

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about spiritual gifts because
that's what this, this is.

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Yeah.
He he was going on and he gave a

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couple reasons for his
excitement.

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One, 'cause he sees this as his
responsibility and really our

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responsibility as elders as well
as we look to try to shape and

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encourage people, not that we
are the ones giving out the

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gifts, but you know, once the
gifts are given, we want to

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encourage people and help them
figure out how to use those.

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He goes to Ephesians 411 through
13, he says, and he gave some as

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apostles, some as prophets, some
as evangelists, and some as

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pastors and teachers for the
equipment of the Saints, for the

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work of service to building up
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And here's kind of the key
thought until we all attain to

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the unity of the faith and to
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to a mature man, to the measure
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the fullness of Christ.
So I mean, what more could we

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want as shepherd pastors, elders
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that.
And part of that is using your

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spiritual gift, kind of if you
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fruit of the Spirit, that's kind
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That's a that's a sweet spot.
That's a sweet spot right there.

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Yeah, and and Pastor leans into
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He's saying I'm doing you a
favor, which that that's the

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right take on it.
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someone to step into something
and sort of like, it's OK if

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people can't do it or whatever,
but sometimes you might be like,

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can you do this?
I feel like I'm putting you out.

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It's like, no, I'm helping you
realize your potential for what

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God wants you to be.
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you really believe in Scripture,
that's how you're going to

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approach it.
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And I was just looking for
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piece, but then he, I think he
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on.
So he hands it out and he talks

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about it a little bit, but then
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So, so as you may know, we are
in this next section of Romans.

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So just a little bit of review.
There was, you know, 11 chapters

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of doctrine, maybe the most, you
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just doctrine in the New
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You would think maybe I.
Think you might be on to

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something there?
Maybe Hebrews?

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I don't know.
Hebrews might rival it for for

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just straight up doctrine.
And then we turn this page from,

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you know what we should believe
to how we should act and what is

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our responsibility.
That was the sermon before this

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one.
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That is our reasonable act of
service, of worship, that we

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would present ourselves as
living sacrifices and that we

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would not be conformed to this
world, but rather transformed by

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the renewing of our mind.
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is good and acceptable and
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And so, you know, we've talked
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We can put it up here.
But we've been through, you

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know, a lot of this.
Now we're turning this corner

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into this application.
I bet if we cut how much we've

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talked about the Jensen chart,
we might make our own podcast

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about the Jensen chart.
But spiritual gifts, if you're

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going to talk about them, we
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We need to define our terms
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define it, this is a struggle
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Like what is a spiritual gift?
All these inventories, some of

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these have like 20-5 different
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You're like, what?
And then you know what, what's

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the goal?
How are they used?

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All these things.
So Pastor Joel starts out with

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his definition, which I think is
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He's a special abilities
graciously given to us by God

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for our serving and building up
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If he had to put it into one
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tools, but you know, it's what
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I think his definition is good
and kind of touches on all the

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all the big big points.
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that all of us have them.
And it's like God just went

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through the church and he's
handing out tools from his tool

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bags.
They're different.

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Some people got a hammer, some
people got a saw, some people

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got a screwdriver, some people
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Not even that.
Some people got different size

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hammers, different size.
It's like all over the place.

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It's good.
Yeah, and I thought, I thought

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it was cool that he pointed this
out, not cool that he pointed

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out.
But I, I'd never thought of

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this.
But you know, you go through

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that one and two, it's like this
is your reasonable act of

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spiritual service be
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about in this scripture of

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application is the use of
spiritual gifts like.

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That's telling, yeah.
It's telling that this is big

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for Paul.
Big a big deal, so let's jump

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into the text.
Romans, 12/3 through eight.

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I'll read it for us here.
Paul writes.

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For through the grace given to
me, I say to everyone among you,

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not to think more highly of
himself than he ought to think,

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but to think so as to have sound
judgment, as God has allotted to

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each a measure of faith.
For just as we have been, just

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as we have many members in one
body, and all the members do not

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have the same function, so we
who are many are one body in

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Christ, and individually members
one of another.

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Since we have gifts that differ
according to the grace given to

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us, each of us is to exercise
them accordingly.

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If prophecy according to the
proportion of his faith, if

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service and is serving, or he
who teaches in his teaching, or

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he who exhorts in his
exhortation, He who gives with

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liberality, He who leads with
diligent, He who shows mercy

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with cheerfulness.
Yeah, that's good.

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And it's it's really compact.
And then the last part of it,

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it's really kind of it's almost
like he's repeating like if

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you're a teacher teach, if
you're a prophet, you know, you

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need need to do that with
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So it's good.
So verse three, kind of just

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reviewing, kind of expositing,
it says for the grace given to

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me, probably because he's an
apostle, part of his calling,

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his ministry, he's going to tell
us.

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And what he tells us is to be
humble, to use sound judgement

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so that we're not going to think
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And then that these gifts have
been allotted to each of us by a

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measure of faith.
And so we are not better than

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others because of our gifting.
Paul doesn't, you know, 1st

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Corinthians 14, he'll say, you
know, seek after the greater

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gifts.
So there may be, you know, I

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guess what does that mean?
But it doesn't mean that some

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gifts aren't important or that
you are lesser because you have

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a, a lesser gift.
If there are, you know.

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Yeah, I I like that he points it
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Because there's nothing that can
just like derail a church or

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situation more than someone
who's like just adamant that

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they are, you know, God's gift
to everything and they want you

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to mainly because of them.
Or pastor makes his application

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as well.
We'll probably talk about later

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on.
But like you were kind of saying

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too, it kind of cuts the other
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And I think sometimes I've got
this like, yeah, I could do

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that.
But like, what's the like, how

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am I going to make a difference?
Like, you can think about

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yourself too much in that one
way or the other, but you're

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still probably thinking about
yourself too much.

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Yeah, yeah.
I think Paul makes both of those

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points in First Corinthians that
you you don't need to make so

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much out of your gift so that
you're minimizing other gifts or

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think that your gift doesn't
have a place or it's not

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important because they're all
there.

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And that that's where Joel takes
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So this is a longer passage.
I'll read it, but I think it's

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instructive.
It comes out of First

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Corinthians 12:00 and it's 14
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It says for the body is not one
member but many.

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And we know that.
And does he?

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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Where does he talk about?

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Oh, yeah, that's later on.
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So I'll start over.
For the body is not one member

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but many.
If the foot says because I am

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not a hand, I am not a part of
the body, it is not for this

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reason any less a part of the
body.

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And if the ear says because I'm
not an eye, I'm not a part of

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the body, it is not for this
reason any less a part of the

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body.
So that's kind of talking about

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the go.
I don't have that gift, so my

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gift isn't really that
important.

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And if the whole body were an I,
where would the hearing be?

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And if the whole body were
hearing, where would the sense

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of smell be?
So this is kind of the flip of

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that.
Like you can't, you know,

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everything is important.
We can't all be eyes in all

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sight.
We can't all be ears and all be

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hearing.
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But now God has placed the
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the body, just as He desired.
If they were all one member,

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they would where would the body
be?

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But now there are many members
but one body, and I cannot say

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the hand I have no need of you.
Or again, the head to the feet,

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I have no need of you.
On the contrary, it is much

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truer that the members of the
body which seem to be weaker are

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necessary, and those members of
the body which we deemed less

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honourable.
On these we bestow the most

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abundant honour, and our less
presentable members become much

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more presentable, whereas our
presentable members have no need

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of it.
But God has so composed a body

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giving much more abundant honor
to that member which lacked, so

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that there may be no division in
the body, but that the members

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may have the same care for one
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And if one member suffers, all
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If one member is honored, all
the members rejoice with it.

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Well, but he he really goes to
great lengths to develop his

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point.
It made me think if you're power

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ranking, like best body parts.
I mean, I mean, he he's got his

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rank.
He's thinking people like hands

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more than or you know, it's kind
of funny, but the point, the

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point stands that don't think of
yourself too much, whether that

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means you feel like you're
insignificant or overly

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significant.
It's not really about you.

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Point is, use your gifts and
value other people's gifting as

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well.
Great time to do a nursery shout

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out.
Yeah, we need nursery workers.

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Yeah, yeah, nursery comes up all
the time.

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I've never seen nursery as a
spiritual gift in the Bible.

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You don't, no, but service
definitely is.

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And so, you know, if you are
gifted in that way of behind the

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scenes service and and helping
out, then then yeah, then you

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then nursery is one of those
ways and you'll point out if you

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don't have nursery, what are you
going to?

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Do what's the Yeah, it's like no
one can come listen to the

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sermon.
It's it's craziness where there

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are some.
Congregations, that's all that

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are all blended.
Like we do the yeah, multi

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generational.
We love to hear the baby screw.

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I think there's something to
that too.

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I kind of like that, but I get
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It's like I, I think I would
like that for a couple services,

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but maybe not all the time, you
know what I mean?

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Yeah, I think we have a good
balance of having them.

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Well the younger younger babies
are in nursery.

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Obviously parents discretion but
then we have what is it?

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4th through 3rd grade. 4 year
old 3rd 3 year olds through 4th

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grade.
I I think it goes until you're 6

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OK six.
Maybe it used to be higher and

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now cuz when Jayden turned 6 or
maybe he turned 7.

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Maybe when you're done being
six.

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OK, you like start.
So 3 year olds through 6 year

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olds, I think it's 345 and six
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Yeah.
So that age around, they're with

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us during the worship service,
but then after worship service,

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they exit and they have a a
lesson in like some activities

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that.
Because part of me is like, may

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not like Lodi Bochum's idea.
I think it's great, but

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practically, and maybe Jaden
would pick on this earlier, I

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think Jaden's pretty a Stew or
pays attention well

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comparatively to where some of
my other children are.

440
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And he's at a good age for it.
But it's a struggle for him

441
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,360
where I'm like, I can't wait for
Jackson to get to this age.

442
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,720
It'll be it'll be more of a
struggle for him where it's like

443
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,000
I can I, you can learn at that
age, but I think it would be

444
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000
very challenging.
I remember I was a good student

445
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000
in school, like probably like
like Jay, like if there's a guy

446
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,560
that you thought he can sit
there and pay attention and get

447
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720
something out of the service, it
would be being and I would just

448
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,520
remember just being like, when
is this going to be over?

449
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,320
And then my getting in trouble
by my parents because I would,

450
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,760
you know, start doing stuff
'cause it was just, this is just

451
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080
really bad.
So yeah, I think it's it's a

452
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,080
good.
It's good to have that age.

453
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680
I like that age appropriate
lesson where if I asked Jackson,

454
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,000
what did you learn about in
junior church?

455
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,640
Like he knows what he learned
about where I don't think, well,

456
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,360
maybe you could say that with
Pastor Joel's sermon too.

457
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,640
But it it's I'm I'm happy where
we're where we have it.

458
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,720
So that's verse 3.
Let's continue to March onward

459
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840
with verses four and five, verse
4 or you got your hand up.

460
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,760
Oh no, Oh no.
Michael does this thing where he

461
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,120
knocks the mic at least twice a
podcast, so he's like guarding

462
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,520
himself.
No, yeah, you slam the table and

463
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,480
then I hear the the the reverb
of the the springs.

464
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,120
Sometimes Michael knocks the
mic.

465
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280
I often slam the table.
So I guess we all have our vices

466
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,200
that are problems about verse.
Four sorry sorry verse 4:00 and

467
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
5:00.
Of Romans 12 goes for just as we

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,680
have many members in one body
and all the members do not have

469
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,960
the same function verse 5.
So we who are many are one body

470
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,880
in Christ, an individual member
one of another.

471
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,320
And the pastor, Joel does
something.

472
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,840
He does well, talking about all
the creation, all he goes either

473
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720
big into space or this, you
know, switching it up on us,

474
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480
going to the cells.
So I'm sitting in the service

475
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960
after we duck haunted and I get
a text from Jill and she's like,

476
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,800
how many cells are in the body?
And I was like, I don't know

477
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,280
exactly.
I'd say I I would.

478
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
She's like, don't look it up.
How many cells are in the body?

479
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760
And I was like three to seven
trillion would be my guess.

480
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840
So I feel like that's pretty.
That's a good guess.

481
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
That's pretty close.
That's a good guess, even though

482
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520
it's way off.
That's way I mean.

483
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,840
It's by a factor of 10.
Right, which depending on what

484
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,080
you're, I mean for this maybe
not that big a deal, but in most

485
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,280
things graph by a factor of 10,
that's a.

486
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,920
Big deal.
You know, probably a third or

487
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,840
fourth grader has that many
cells, so boom.

488
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Like the way you think, my
favorite was, I'm going to start

489
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,960
doing this.
Apparently Tim Bryant saw like,

490
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Pastor's notes before 'cause he,
yeah, 'cause in the you probably

491
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,520
get him, 'cause he wasn't miked
up.

492
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480
He was like 30 trillion and
Pastor's like, thanks a lot,

493
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Tim.
Like my my Yeah.

494
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,360
Well, she said she's she was
like Tim knew it exactly.

495
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,360
So I I think you think so.
I'm just guessing he might not

496
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,360
have because he.
Nailed it exactly.

497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880
Yeah, like I could, I could see,
like if someone guessed three or

498
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240
five, 7 trillion, that's a
really good guess.

499
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,200
But that makes sense that you
would not know.

500
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Exactly why?
Would she say 40 or 20?

501
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,720
I don't know, yeah.
But so maybe he didn't.

502
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Tim, I'm sorry if you knew that
'cause he might have 'cause I

503
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
remember Tim one time's been
like the heart pumps this like

504
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
he, like maybe he, he did this
for an example, maybe.

505
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640
Yeah, maybe he uses disease and
counselling or something.

506
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Yeah, some, some way.
Like in God control, you know,

507
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,960
God's overseen you every 30
trillion of a man.

508
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Yeah.
So 200 different types of cells

509
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,920
is what I got. 37 billion
bacteria in your body probably

510
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,240
I'm guessing a lot most of those
in your gut, but other places

511
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840
and I 47 different organs.
Was that right?

512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,720
That's what I thought I heard
you said.

513
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080
I did not.
We wanted to go back and see I.

514
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,960
Guess we'll never know.
Yeah, but the point is lots of

515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,440
different things going on in the
human body, lots of different

516
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,800
parts working together to make
you a complete person.

517
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,520
And so we go from this physical
body to a spiritual body, lots

518
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,600
of different parts in the
spiritual body of Christ that

519
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
have their different roles that
go together to make a complete

520
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200
spiritual person.
Yeah.

521
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,880
And it's pretty amazing because
that's the whole whole point is

522
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440
you got to work together.
Like you can be like a really

523
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
great hand, but if you're not
working in conjunction with

524
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,520
anything else, it ain't going to
ain't going to work.

525
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Well, we're with a lot of people
that have had some sort of

526
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000
stroke, some sort of deficit on
one side of their body and it's

527
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,240
like they can work.
It's coordinating everything is

528
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,240
such a challenge and that's hard
finding a body and serving where

529
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640
it's helpful because I think
it's easy to serve where

530
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,600
everyone wants to serve.
And it's like, oh, where do I,

531
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,880
how do you, I think that's a
good application?

532
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,120
Like how do you find that
balance?

533
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,480
Because to me, spiritual gifts
in one sense, you know, Pastor

534
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Joel's like leadership
teachings, my gifts.

535
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,080
And I think that's true.
You might have gifts like that,

536
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,720
but part of me too is like, man,
I think it is so context

537
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680
dependence where in one church
my gifting might be here in

538
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520
another church.
Like there's a time I was

539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,080
playing guitar with resolve.
That's not my spiritual gifting,

540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
but I can do like a terrible job
if like it needs to be done.

541
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,080
But if there's a Caleb Hawk, I
should never do it.

542
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
You know what I mean?
Like I, you know, so I think

543
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080
some of that drives are not,
well, I can play like 8 chords.

544
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Like I can do a chord.
I can't play guitar, but you

545
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,640
know, but I would do it every
now and then.

546
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760
And so that might be my gifts if
it needs to be done, but that's

547
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,120
not really my gifting.
I don't know.

548
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Yeah.
You know, I think that's good

549
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480
that there are ways that you
might be called to serve when

550
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,480
someone of a greater ability
isn't there 'cause it's a

551
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,800
smaller venue or something.
And then then in a larger venue

552
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,400
or when someone comes along, you
go, oh, we'll give that up.

553
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Similar like there was a Were
you ever there while I was

554
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920
playing key bass?
Oh, I don't know if I don't

555
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,760
know.
That's pretty cool key bass.

556
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Yeah, so did you.
Have like one of those piano.

557
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Guitars.
No, no, no.

558
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,360
Saying no.
It was just a electric piano,

559
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,160
and it was like Tim's piano
actually just.

560
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,360
Wait, let me pretend like you
were having one of these like,

561
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:13,960
guitar pianos.
You know what I'm talking about.

562
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,000
I know it's drama, but like
Tim's piano and then kind of

563
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720
where the bass guitarist sits
today, like in between them and

564
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320
the drums, like right, like
right in the line was this

565
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,440
electric piano And I was playing
the bass notes because we, there

566
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,360
was no, there was no one there
to play the bass notes and you

567
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,240
need the, the bass sound.
And then I was doing that maybe

568
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,880
for a year.
And then Richard Hartnett

569
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,920
started coming to our church.
And then like I, I play bass

570
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
guitar like boom, let's, let's
have you, let's have you in

571
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,520
there.
Yeah, that, that that's pretty

572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,400
cool.
That's a great example.

573
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Yeah.
Fill in the gap, someone's

574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160
coming in and he's been playing
the bass ever since.

575
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Yeah, well, well, now Wayne's
playing the bass.

576
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,960
Yeah, gotcha.
Cause Richard's on guitar.

577
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Richard's on acoustic guitar,
yeah, So yeah.

578
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Man, there's a lot going on over
there.

579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,600
I don't have the best vantage
point.

580
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480
I never know.
Never know how you guys cram so

581
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400
many people in a corner, but it
gets done.

582
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,280
It is all.
Right.

583
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,360
So in in all your ways, you know
you should use your gifts and I

584
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:16,760
really appreciate this.
Joel uses this picture of some

585
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520
dessert falling.
It's in it's in the notes here,

586
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920
but basically someone drops some
dessert on the floor and it's

587
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
all the different reactions.
Yeah, this is good that we'd

588
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,280
you'd have and I can, I can
identify clearly with one of the

589
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
ones and then which one do you
identify?

590
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,400
With that's a great question.
See again, I think it's context

591
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
dependence.
If it's my wife versus a visitor

592
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000
versus someone I'm building
into, I don't know, I feel like

593
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640
I feel like I have different
reactions based on who it is and

594
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720
maybe behind the.
Scenes.

595
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,240
No problem, J Well, depends on
what he he did, but I I might

596
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,560
lean into like, oh, this is
maybe why you did it wrong.

597
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,240
I don't know, let's kind of go
and like let's like revisit it.

598
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Was it like unweighted?
Because it was too heavy like.

599
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Maybe something like that.
I don't know if he was really

600
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,880
sad.
I might be merciful if I was

601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,120
like, he was devastated, you
know?

602
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Because you can see all of them.
Yeah, all of them are, are

603
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
appropriate.
So yeah, basically there's these

604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640
seven people around and one
person says, let me help you

605
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
clean that up.
And if that's your initial

606
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
reaction to someone spilling
some dessert on the floor, then

607
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320
you might have the gift of
service because the motivation

608
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
is to fulfill that physical
need.

609
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,560
That's right there.
Me, my initial reaction would be

610
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
the tray fell because it was too
heavy on one side.

611
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Then you might have to get to
teaching.

612
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Your motivation is to discover
why something happened.

613
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200
You know, kind of figure out the
mechanics behind it and help it

614
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760
prevent it if someone said
that's what happens when you're

615
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840
not careful.
That is a true prophet.

616
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Yeah.
You know that's.

617
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,720
What happens when you're not
careful?

618
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,400
We all know that guy.
Yeah, yeah.

619
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,680
The motivation is to correct the
life, you know, correct

620
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840
someone's actions, prophecy.
Someone might say, next time

621
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
maybe we should just serve
dessert with the mill.

622
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
I don't really that as a
teacher, that makes no sense.

623
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Are you helping anyone?
Yeah.

624
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Yeah, but they're trying to, you
know, help correct the future,

625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,840
like look towards the future.
And that's would be the gift of

626
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
exhortation.
That's OK.

627
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
I'll just buy a new dessert.
That's nice.

628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Yeah, that is very giving, very
generous.

629
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Yeah, give to giving to give
some type of tangible need.

630
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Here's where Jill would be.
Oh, don't feel bad.

631
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Accidents happen sometimes.
We all.

632
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840
It all happens to everyone.
Yeah, where?

633
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Where's the one?
That's like just busting out the

634
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,920
laughter.
You did it again.

635
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,680
You've done it three, you know.
Yeah, that's funny.

636
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Not a spiritual gift.
That's, you know, just openly

637
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,120
mocking.
Yeah, yeah.

638
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520
So that was a gift of mercy and
the last one, gift of

639
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
leadership, of administration.
OK, Jim, grab the mop.

640
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Sue, start picking up the
pieces.

641
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Mary, let's figure out how to
make some more dessert.

642
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
I love it.
It's like I, I, I like the way

643
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000
they're problem solving.
I love how it's like an, it's

644
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160
like, you know, we're getting on
everything.

645
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520
But I think that was a very
helpful illustration just to

646
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840
show how they all do work in
different ways to solve the

647
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,520
problem.
Right.

648
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
And then so Pastor goes from
this to kind of another

649
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
illustration going back to those
puzzle pieces, having people

650
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,520
pull it out, talks about doing
puzzles over Christmas.

651
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Now I have picture evidence of
this that we'll put up in a

652
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,960
moment, but Pastor talks about
doing some puzzles with his

653
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
grandchildren.
Were they in Atlanta?

654
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Is that what he said?
Maybe.

655
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,240
I don't know.
Yeah.

656
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Yeah, somewhere.
Yeah.

657
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
And I guess maybe they got some
puzzle pieces from a thrift

658
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920
store or something.
That's a.

659
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000
That's a huge mistake.
A huge mistake.

660
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
I take puzzles to thrift stores
just because they're missing

661
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,880
pieces.
So I'm just kidding.

662
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,120
I took it to where pastors about
the shots.

663
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Yeah, so they put these puzzles
together and like, missing 13

664
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,800
pieces.
OK.

665
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320
So I don't know, maybe it was
you.

666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,320
OK.
Someone.

667
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Yeah, it's probably is.
Me.

668
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Maybe it was Nate, Nate and
Jess, we don't know.

669
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,880
But before we left for
Christmas, the kids clubs had a

670
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
gift exchange, OK?
And you're supposed to bring age

671
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,720
appropriate gifts.
OK, someone gifted Phoebe 1000

672
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,840
piece.
Puzzle it.

673
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Wasn't me but I wish it was that
next year I'm going bigger and.

674
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120
She she was all excited about
it.

675
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640
And of course, you know what
happened?

676
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Like so we start doing this at
Juju and Potaddies and it's like

677
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800
me and Lydia putting in the long
haul of it and like Phoebe

678
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,640
coming along and she's like,
could I get 1000 monies because

679
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560
of this is 1000 piece puzzle?
What is 1000 monies?

680
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
And I was like maybe 1000
pennies or something like that.

681
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
So we put it together
painstakingly.

682
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Wow, what was it?
It was Charlie Brown Christmas.

683
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080
It was nice.
I'll put a picture of it right

684
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,680
here because we opened that new
and it was missing a piece, but

685
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,920
we had an extra it was like a
duplicate edge piece which would

686
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
throw it totally threw us off
because like we.

687
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Where's this?
Where's this?

688
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Edge piece goes.
So we had one extra piece and we

689
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
could like you could take one
out and put the other one in,

690
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880
one out, put the other one in.
And then we were missing a piece

691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
over here.
And that's, that was very

692
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
frustrating.
Man, this, this is my move my

693
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360
family loves doing.
My grandmother especially.

694
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Like, puzzles are always out.
Like during holidays, my move is

695
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
to come through, take a couple.
Yep, snap a piece.

696
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,680
And then everyone's like,
where's the last piece?

697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920
And now they know it's me.
And so they're, like trying to

698
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
see when I stealed it.
So, you know, I've got to keep

699
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,400
people honest, you know?
Yeah.

700
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Yeah, the point of all the
puzzle talk was that there are

701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920
no missing pieces.
When God hands out these puzzle

702
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880
pieces, God knows how to take
the different pieces in your

703
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560
local area.
If you're using your gift for

704
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,600
God's glory for others, good,
you're going to be transformed

705
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200
by that.
And He is going to make a puzzle

706
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960
picture out of that that honors
him and is good for the church.

707
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,400
So good, so good.
We're at verse verses 6 through

708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080
8.
Since we have gifts that differ

709
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,200
according to the grace given to
us, each of us is to exercise

710
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,000
them accordingly.
This is the part Michael was

711
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
talking about, a prophecy
according to the proportion of

712
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,400
his faith of service and his
serving.

713
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
He who teaches in his teaching,
or he who exhorts in his

714
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,199
exhortation, He who gives with
liberality, He who leads with

715
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,199
diligence, He who shows mercy
with cheerfulness.

716
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,639
Now it's good and, and Joel
asked this question, you know,

717
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,120
why does Paul list these 7
gifts?

718
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Is there something special about
them?

719
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
And when we went through, maybe
we should link it.

720
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,080
But we did do a spiritual Part 1
and Part 2, kind of like around

721
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
the late spring and then one in
summer.

722
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,840
They're out there.
But if you take Paul's or the

723
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,679
Bible's treatment of spiritual
gifts chronologically,

724
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,120
Corinthians is first.
It's very early and you have all

725
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,840
these gifts they list.
And then I think it's Ephesians

726
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,040
next.
Or is it Romans next?

727
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,840
And then Ephesians, one of those
is next.

728
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,880
And then you get down to Peter
where he basically says speaking

729
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,159
and serving.
Yeah, I like it.

730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,560
So I think sometimes we can go
off the rails if we start

731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
listing everything as a
spiritual gift.

732
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
I think if it doesn't fit into
speaking or serving in those two

733
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520
broad categories, and then it's
probably not a spiritual gift.

734
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I think you're

735
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
probably right.
And I struggle with this too,

736
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,720
where it's like we price it as
another podcast.

737
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,720
It's like, it's why I never come
to a church work day.

738
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,760
I don't do serving.
It's not my gift.

739
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,240
You know what I mean?
It's like, I can't serve.

740
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
I wish God would have gifted me
but I can't pick up chairs.

741
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,400
So we had I'll, I'll, I'll.
So spiritual gifts in action,

742
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,800
you know?
Yeah, so, so I showed up at our

743
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
little elders thing at the
Hughes where, you know, they had

744
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,440
us over for dinner and we played
some games and I was a little

745
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
bit early.
I was coming from podcasting

746
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
that night from your house.
I just went straight there.

747
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080
So I beat Jill there and I was
kind of the first one there.

748
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,160
So I'm walking up and as I'm
walking up kind of halfway

749
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,360
through the door, like Sarah and
Danny are opening the door for

750
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,120
me and I see Joel and Diana come
up and I'm like, oh, so kind of

751
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,000
torn.
So I'm like, well, I will go

752
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,120
spend time with the host.
Like I don't want to turn my

753
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520
back on the host and stuff.
But then Diana and Joel walk in

754
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,640
and not carrying a whole bunch
of stuff.

755
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,360
I was like, I should have
thought that you might need help

756
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,080
to bring stuff in and someone
who has a gift to service

757
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
probably would have picked the
other way.

758
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040
You know, I'm, you know, trying
to, trying to figure out, you

759
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
know, you know, 'cause sometimes
you just don't think about

760
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,480
honestly physical things.
Instead of spiritual gifts,

761
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480
inventory spiritual gifts.
Quick reaction.

762
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Like put them in situations you
gotta pick.

763
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,720
What are you gonna do?
Oh, you served OK.

764
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,920
That you know.
Oh, mercy.

765
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,880
You know, that's great.
Let's go.

766
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Spill something in front of
them.

767
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
See what you do 'cause how do
you discover your spiritual

768
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,720
gifts?
Prayer practice, regular

769
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,440
interest.
I didn't mean to skip over the

770
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
list of seven if we wanna, you
know, flesh those out.

771
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040
More No, I think it's fine.
Prophecy, faith, service,

772
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960
serving, teaching, teaching,
exhortation, exhortation,

773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,000
giving, liberality, leading with
diligence, mercy, cheerfulness.

774
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
So for, for some of them, just
do your gift.

775
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,400
If you're a teacher, teach.
That's right.

776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Yeah, that's right.
If you're if you're gift of

777
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640
serving, serve.
Yeah, if you give like give a

778
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,400
lot, like, like don't give a
little bit.

779
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Yeah, it kind of makes sense,
right?

780
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,120
Yeah, that's good.
Well, pray about your spiritual

781
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,440
gift, practice them, jump into
it and maybe see where your

782
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,520
interests dovetail.
Cause most of us might say, hey,

783
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
why doesn't this church do this
or why don't they do that?

784
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,160
It's like maybe This is why so
you can fill this role.

785
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Yeah, no, it's very good.
Joel kind of ends with this

786
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680
illustration of Snowman the
horse.

787
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
There is a movie about this
horse that you can go see.

788
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
I don't remember the name of it,
but we watched it and it was

789
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,560
really good.
And it details this horse that

790
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,560
was up for auction and this guy
was actually late to the

791
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,920
auction.
Like this.

792
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
The horse, something happened, I
don't remember.

793
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,280
Let's just pretend like his
truck breaks down or something

794
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040
or and they had to get it fixed.
So he gets there late and it's

795
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
like there's two horses left.
He bids on this one and the guy

796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,280
he's bidding against is from the
glue factory and he outbids this

797
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,720
guy and everyone's like why did
you get that horse, blah, blah

798
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,760
blah blah.
Feeds them, does well them, has

799
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
a really good relationship with
the horse, but the horse doesn't

800
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
really do anything.
So he sells them to a neighbor

801
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,400
who wanted him and the horse
really liked that owner.

802
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,160
And so that the horse kept
coming back to the original

803
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120
owner and they figured out he is
jumping these very high fences

804
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,680
to get back to this original
owner.

805
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
So they like, oh, let's see what
this guy can do.

806
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,240
And it turns out this horse is
an amazing jumper, wins show

807
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Horse of the Year twice in a row
for his jumping abilities.

808
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,760
And so the the point to this
story is when you look at your

809
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,480
fellow church members, do you
see the horse jumper or do you

810
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,680
see the guy that's like, he's
just ready for the glue, you

811
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,280
know?
Yeah.

812
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,720
That's crazy.
That's what what a difference in

813
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,280
in outcomes Like, wow, a
champion, Yeah.

814
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Go watch the movie, it's good,
you'll cry.

815
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,600
We don't.
We don't.

816
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Yeah.
We don't know what it's called,

817
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
but go watch it.
Go.

818
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280
Go find it.
Moving to application.

819
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,720
Do you know your spiritual
gifts?

820
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880
If you don't do those things,
pray, try different things,

821
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,760
maybe talk to leadership.
And if you, you know, do think

822
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
about these things, write it
down, put in your Bible, pray

823
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,920
over.
We had the puzzle piece

824
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,800
specifically.
Pastor Joel gave out such a

825
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
weird kind of task to think
about in our congregation.

826
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,240
Yeah, and if you were to leave
your current church, would they

827
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,880
miss you?
Yeah, that's that's.

828
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Yeah.
Are you doing something?

829
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Are you kind of fulfilling a
role there?

830
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,480
And if not, why not, you know,
see how you can get plugged in.

831
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,720
And you know, sometimes how you
think you might get plugged in

832
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,040
may not work in that local
place, but I assure you there is

833
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,880
a place for you to get plugged
in.

834
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600
And then lastly, do you
encourage others here in the use

835
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,680
of their gifts?
So at your church, are you?

836
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,920
And if you're not an elder, I
mean, I'm not saying you can't,

837
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
but like, I feel like, you know,
there are some people who have

838
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680
this gift of encouragement and
that's probably not going to be

839
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
everyone if you're, but maybe
how you can encourage folks.

840
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
I think that's great.
Add it to the, you know,

841
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,640
spiritual gifts podcast.
We we, we've done and I don't I

842
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,160
got nothing else.
Anything else you want to add?

843
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Yeah, I'll just say this is.
It's this one.

844
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:26,040
Yeah, this is our 100th full
length episode.

845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah, so plus our bonus episodes
that we've done and the.

846
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,280
Shorts of where?
You're breaking an earring into

847
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Yeah.
So I'll just say, you know, if

848
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,320
you've enjoyed this podcast, I
think it helps.

849
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,440
I think we saw like initial bump
from friends and family who

850
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
watched and then, you know, it's
not everyone's cup of tea, just

851
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,640
like it may not be your
spiritual gift.

852
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320
So we saw, you know, some
number, but now I think we we

853
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,520
can kind of continually steadily
grow like from folks we don't

854
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,440
know.
So that's great.

855
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,800
That's really cool.
Yeah.

856
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,000
So share the podcast.
I love it.

857
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,720
That would be a great way to
celebrate the 100th episode.

858
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Share, share the podcast.
And this is Do we know what

859
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,280
episode of romances or?
I should look it up.

860
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,960
It's probably in the hot mid to
high 30s thirties.

861
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,600
I'd say like probably 343536
somewhere in that area, but I'd

862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,760
I'd have to go I I need to go
back and count them.

863
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,680
So awesome.
Well.

864
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Happy 100th episode.
Yeah, that's our take.

865
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Thanks for listening to Take
Two.

866
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800
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867
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,200
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