Jan. 20, 2025
You Are Special | Romans 12:3-8
Episode 100
Wow! 100 Full Length Episodes!!! 36th Romans Sermon!!!
In this podcast Michael and Zach look at Paul's treatment of spiritual gifts in Romans 12.
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So been back from duck hunting
almost exactly a week.
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We got in late, well, late late
last Monday, early Tuesday
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morning, by the time I got to my
house.
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I heard it was profitable slash
cold slash snowy.
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It was, yeah.
So.
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Like best, best one ever.
I'm not saying you guys have not
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done well, but it's been like
good, maybe not bad, kind of in
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the middle.
And this one was like, amazing.
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Yeah, I guess you could by the
numbers, definitely the most,
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the best one ever is our first
morning we got a limit, A5 men
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limit.
Lee was there for a little bit
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and then he left.
So we don't really know how
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much, how many he killed.
And and then we found a frozen
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Drake Mallard from probably the
day before, 'cause sometimes
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they swim off and it was so cold
it was like frozen.
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So we're like this is this is
fine, we will.
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'Cause I heard you were saying
like you had a different crew
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this year, that was better luck
than your crew from last year.
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Is that what you were saying?
Well, it was basically it was
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the same crew minus a couple.
Who?
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That's what I'm getting at.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
You're saying they're bad luck?
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No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
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No, but yeah, so we really went
down for the snow, 'cause that
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snow pushes them.
And the morning that it snowed,
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we saw tons and tons in the air
and none of them came to us.
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So it was the morning before the
morning of the snow that we did
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our best.
And then then there were a
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couple days that we got, you
know, 7, seven, I think 13 on
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one day that.
Sounds pretty good, yeah.
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Yeah, when there's some days in
time faster, you get one all day
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and it's like, oh, those are
tough days.
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Yeah, 'cause you're out, you're
out in the elements.
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It's probably.
I mean, I'm sure it's fun, but
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it's also cold.
Right, right.
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Yeah, and couple big things
happen.
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You make me notice this.
I didn't notice it until now.
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Elite.
Not just duck calls, but elite
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duck calls.
So that was that was a big
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turning point in my
transformation, my growth as a
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duck hunter, because I had a
duck call that I got based on
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Clayton's recommendation.
He's like, this was my first
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beginning one it, you know, it's
not the most expensive, but you
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know, you can get it kind of see
and play 'cause you may, you may
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not want to buy $150.00 duck
call out of the gate.
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And man, that duck call, I did
everything that I, I could on it
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and I just could not get it to
sound good.
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And I thought, maybe I'm just
not.
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Cutting the duck call.
And there's this place in
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Searcy, like 13 miles from where
we grew up in Bald Knob that my
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father in law's been, he talks
about every time we go.
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They're like, oh, did you have
you ever gone to that place?
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You ever gone to the place?
And so we had the the morning
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that we got our limit, we had
because you're done hunting,
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you're done because we follow
the rules.
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Some people get their room in
the morning and they just like
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and then they go back out in the
afternoon and you know, and
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that's not that's not legal.
Yeah.
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So we had some time, was like,
OK, let's go to this duck
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hunting, this duck calling
place.
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So got there and it was kind of
comical because Clayton's really
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the only one who calls a lot.
And so this guy, it was just
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kind of awkward.
He's just like kept giving these
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calls to Clayton, like try this
one, try this one, try this one.
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And he's like, this one's
$150.00, this one's $140.
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And he's just calling away.
Yeah, yeah.
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And he's like.
And finally he goes, we do have
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the injection molded fancy word
for plastic that he's like,
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those are $40.
And I was like, OK, I'm gonna, I
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gotta not only do I need an, a
call, but you know, I, I feel
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like I, you know, I brought us
here.
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So I was like, OK, I will get,
you know, I was like, which one
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out of the plastic ones would
you recommend?
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So I got it changed.
Game.
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It was a game changer, Yeah.
And so much to the fact that
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there was a time when some
ducks, you know, Clayton wasn't
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specifically ready.
And he was like, Michael, get on
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the duck call.
Never would have said that in.
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Wow, Clayton gave you the green
light.
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You're an elite duck.
Call from Get that, Get that.
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Get those people to sponsor this
podcast.
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And one time called in four.
Man.
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Gadwall.
Oh yeah, I love those ducks.
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Two of them got feet down in the
water.
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Now I'll just.
That may sound great to someone,
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but Gadwall's, Gaddy's, they're
not the smartest ducks, so
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they're a little bit easier to
bring in than than maybe a
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Mallard.
No, it's a little bit more I'm.
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Going to say every, I know you
don't have the duck call with
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you, but can you into the
microphone?
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The noise that you would try to
make in the duck call just for
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the audience?
I think the audience would love
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to hear this since you're an
elite duck collar.
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Now, Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Well, we could talk about
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Inharmonic dissonance and and
and what's needed because really
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you need 2 frequencies that are
kind of close to each other or a
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frequency that fights with
another frequency to make that
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that duck sound, that quack
sound.
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Cannot understand it unless I
hear it.
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Yeah, give me try to make.
It no, that's good.
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I'm not good, all right, I'm
trying but.
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Out of that, out of that one day
we were duck hunting and Curtis
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Clayton's brother was with us.
And they were it was not like a
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big, I don't want to make this a
bigger squabble than what it
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was, But there was some this
they were like jokingly in a
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disagreement about something.
And I hear Clayton turn to
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Curtis and say stop being a
worker of iniquity.
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So who say say, who's that?
Clayton says this stop being a
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worker of iniquity.
And I was like, that's great.
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So, you know, maybe 5-6 episodes
ago, I don't know how many you
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had these half baked ideas and I
thought maybe 1/2 baked idea is
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to to come up with some
biblically based insults or cut
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downs, you know, or admonitions.
That's.
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Actually sounding fully big to
me.
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I'm liking.
Your heads out, let's do it.
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So I did some research and here
are some, here are some, some
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that you might want 'cause you
want to.
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We're always, let's get
meditating on the word, quoting
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scripture, letting scripture
influence your life.
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So, you know, if you have, you
know, someone that you just
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can't stand anymore or
something, you could just say
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you son of a perverse and
rebellious woman that that could
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go over pretty good.
That's a That's a good one for.
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All the men out there, if your
wives are just not acting right,
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they've all been there.
Yeah.
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You just pull a proverb at at
them like you're a gold ring and
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a pig snout.
You know, I think that would
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really help them build them.
Was that in the Marriage class,
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Tim?
That's what that's.
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What Tim was saying or, or this
one.
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This is a slight paraphrase of
Job 19.
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Your breath disgust your wife,
everyone in your family turns
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away.
Young children can't stand you.
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And when you come near, they
make fun.
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So.
That that's a mouthful, but I
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like.
It it's a zinger.
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I like how you know, if it's not
formal enough, pull up the old
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KJV if you're feeling a little
loose, let's get NLT.
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Let's get the message out there.
You can have some fun with it.
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You know that's.
Right, Just skipping around
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here, like if you have someone
who's making too big of an idea,
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you know, like, hey, this is not
that big of a deal.
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Don't tell them that.
Say you strain at a gnat, but
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swallow a camel.
You know that's Jesus's.
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Word.
I love that.
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Just keep scripture on our own.
This is good, I love it.
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Here are some questionable ones.
You know, we we tend to take out
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some of the innuendo or some of
the like we paraphrase.
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So I won't, I won't.
I'll just say it and then you
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can kind of think.
But remember when Rhea Boehm was
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was under pressure, like from
his wise counsel and his
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friends.
And he says this, my little
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finger is thicker than my
father's loins.
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So if you research that he's
he's, he's saying something a
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little bit.
I could see that.
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A little bit, but you know,
maybe that's a cut down you
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could.
If you need to do it, yeah, it's
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probably better than the more
explicit version.
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Right.
Yeah, that's right.
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And then finally, here's another
one of the questionable ones.
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You you could do.
Oh.
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Do we need to put like an E on
this podcast?
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Like like 1. 2nd This is what
the Assyrians to the men on
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Jerusalem's wall, they say, has
my master sent me to speak these
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words to your master and to you
and not to the people sitting on
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the wall who are doomed to eat
their own dung and drink their
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own urine.
It's, it's like, that's, that's
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so you can be like, man, you're
doomed to eat your own dung and
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drink your own urine.
That's that's a little bit
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strong, but it's it's biblical.
We want to keep it biblical.
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That's great.
That's great.
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Honestly, all much better than
what what you might want to say.
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So, you know, I like, I like it
a lot.
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We're heads that we need some
T-shirts made and we need we.
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There's a lot of ways.
To merch, Yeah, yeah, get some
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merch.
Oh, that's good.
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Well, I think, you know, that
that ties in well with spiritual
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gifts.
That calling might be your
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spiritual gifts.
You know, quoting Scripture
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could be so much spiritual
gifting.
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I like when we, when we play
volleyball, sometimes I like to
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say pastor's got the gift of
service as he spikes it.
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Not pastoral gifts, but yeah, I
love it.
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Great, great banter made a lot
packed in.
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I'm loving it.
What what the love the duck
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hunting love it all.
We're going to jump into Romans
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12/3 through 8 looking at this
sermon titled You're Special.
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You are special.
Let's take it to the next level
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from the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.
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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next
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level.
All right, you are special
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Romans 12/3 through 8.
And I wasn't here for this
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sermon, but I did listen to it
did take some notes.
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We were nice.
We haunted this morning and then
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we went to church.
So we we did both.
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Nice, I was gonna ask.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Glad you're on the but I bet at
your church service that you
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went to, were you given a puzzle
piece?
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We were not given a puzzle
piece.
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No, no.
I.
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Wonder how many I wonder did we
what did we buy one puzzle that
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was like a 500 piece puzzle.
I didn't look at what I saw the.
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Pieces in the thing Wednesday
when we came in and they looked
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like they were from different
puzzles.
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Yeah, it means just cause Pastor
hell up his piece, and that was
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not from the same puzzle my
piece was from, but it was like
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a normal 1.
He had like the awesome puzzle
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piece that was like coolly
shaped.
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But something Pastor Joel does
well is object lessons.
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You know he's gonna he's gonna
find out a way to make you
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remember his sermon.
That's right.
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Yeah.
And so he, Joel, was all excited
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about spiritual gifts because
that's what this, this is.
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Yeah.
He he was going on and he gave a
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couple reasons for his
excitement.
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One, 'cause he sees this as his
responsibility and really our
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responsibility as elders as well
as we look to try to shape and
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encourage people, not that we
are the ones giving out the
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gifts, but you know, once the
gifts are given, we want to
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encourage people and help them
figure out how to use those.
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He goes to Ephesians 411 through
13, he says, and he gave some as
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apostles, some as prophets, some
as evangelists, and some as
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pastors and teachers for the
equipment of the Saints, for the
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work of service to building up
of the body of Christ.
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And here's kind of the key
thought until we all attain to
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the unity of the faith and to
the knowledge of the Son of God,
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to a mature man, to the measure
of the stature which belongs to
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the fullness of Christ.
So I mean, what more could we
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want as shepherd pastors, elders
of a flock is to help people see
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that.
And part of that is using your
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spiritual gift, kind of if you
use your spiritual gift with the
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fruit of the Spirit, that's kind
of really.
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That's a that's a sweet spot.
That's a sweet spot right there.
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Yeah, and and Pastor leans into
this strongly as he should.
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He's saying I'm doing you a
favor, which that that's the
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right take on it.
Because I think when you ask
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someone to step into something
and sort of like, it's OK if
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people can't do it or whatever,
but sometimes you might be like,
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can you do this?
I feel like I'm putting you out.
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It's like, no, I'm helping you
realize your potential for what
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God wants you to be.
And I think there there's, if
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you really believe in Scripture,
that's how you're going to
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approach it.
No, that's good.
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And I was just looking for
'cause he hands out the puzzle
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piece, but then he, I think he
OK, so he talks about it later
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on.
So he hands it out and he talks
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about it a little bit, but then
he's going to bring it in later.
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So, so as you may know, we are
in this next section of Romans.
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So just a little bit of review.
There was, you know, 11 chapters
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of doctrine, maybe the most, you
know, the largest section of
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just doctrine in the New
Testament.
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You would think maybe I.
Think you might be on to
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something there?
Maybe Hebrews?
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I don't know.
Hebrews might rival it for for
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just straight up doctrine.
And then we turn this page from,
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you know what we should believe
to how we should act and what is
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our responsibility.
That was the sermon before this
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one.
Romans 12/1 through two.
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That is our reasonable act of
service, of worship, that we
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would present ourselves as
living sacrifices and that we
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would not be conformed to this
world, but rather transformed by
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the renewing of our mind.
And by that we would know what
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is good and acceptable and
perfect in God's eyes.
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And so, you know, we've talked
about the Jensen chart.
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We can put it up here.
But we've been through, you
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know, a lot of this.
Now we're turning this corner
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into this application.
I bet if we cut how much we've
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talked about the Jensen chart,
we might make our own podcast
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about the Jensen chart.
But spiritual gifts, if you're
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going to talk about them, we
kind of know what they are.
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We need to define our terms
because I think even if you
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define it, this is a struggle
point.
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Like what is a spiritual gift?
All these inventories, some of
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these have like 20-5 different
categories.
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You're like, what?
And then you know what, what's
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the goal?
How are they used?
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All these things.
So Pastor Joel starts out with
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his definition, which I think is
a good definition.
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He's a special abilities
graciously given to us by God
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for our serving and building up
the church.
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If he had to put it into one
word, he would say they're
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tools, but you know, it's what
you can use to serve the church.
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I think his definition is good
and kind of touches on all the
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all the big big points.
Yeah, and he makes the point
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that all of us have them.
And it's like God just went
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through the church and he's
handing out tools from his tool
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bags.
They're different.
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Some people got a hammer, some
people got a saw, some people
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got a screwdriver, some people
got A and.
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Not even that.
Some people got different size
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hammers, different size.
It's like all over the place.
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It's good.
Yeah, and I thought, I thought
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it was cool that he pointed this
out, not cool that he pointed
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out.
But I, I'd never thought of
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this.
But you know, you go through
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that one and two, it's like this
is your reasonable act of
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spiritual service be
transformed.
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And the very next thing he talks
about in this scripture of
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application is the use of
spiritual gifts like.
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That's telling, yeah.
It's telling that this is big
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for Paul.
Big a big deal, so let's jump
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into the text.
Romans, 12/3 through eight.
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I'll read it for us here.
Paul writes.
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For through the grace given to
me, I say to everyone among you,
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not to think more highly of
himself than he ought to think,
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but to think so as to have sound
judgment, as God has allotted to
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each a measure of faith.
For just as we have been, just
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as we have many members in one
body, and all the members do not
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have the same function, so we
who are many are one body in
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Christ, and individually members
one of another.
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Since we have gifts that differ
according to the grace given to
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us, each of us is to exercise
them accordingly.
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If prophecy according to the
proportion of his faith, if
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service and is serving, or he
who teaches in his teaching, or
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he who exhorts in his
exhortation, He who gives with
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liberality, He who leads with
diligent, He who shows mercy
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with cheerfulness.
Yeah, that's good.
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And it's it's really compact.
And then the last part of it,
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it's really kind of it's almost
like he's repeating like if
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you're a teacher teach, if
you're a prophet, you know, you
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need need to do that with
faithfulness.
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So it's good.
So verse three, kind of just
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reviewing, kind of expositing,
it says for the grace given to
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me, probably because he's an
apostle, part of his calling,
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his ministry, he's going to tell
us.
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And what he tells us is to be
humble, to use sound judgement
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so that we're not going to think
too highly of ourselves.
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And then that these gifts have
been allotted to each of us by a
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measure of faith.
And so we are not better than
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others because of our gifting.
Paul doesn't, you know, 1st
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Corinthians 14, he'll say, you
know, seek after the greater
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gifts.
So there may be, you know, I
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guess what does that mean?
But it doesn't mean that some
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gifts aren't important or that
you are lesser because you have
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a, a lesser gift.
If there are, you know.
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Yeah, I I like that he points it
out.
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Because there's nothing that can
just like derail a church or
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situation more than someone
who's like just adamant that
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they are, you know, God's gift
to everything and they want you
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to mainly because of them.
Or pastor makes his application
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as well.
We'll probably talk about later
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on.
But like you were kind of saying
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too, it kind of cuts the other
way.
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And I think sometimes I've got
this like, yeah, I could do
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that.
But like, what's the like, how
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am I going to make a difference?
Like, you can think about
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yourself too much in that one
way or the other, but you're
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still probably thinking about
yourself too much.
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Yeah, yeah.
I think Paul makes both of those
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points in First Corinthians that
you you don't need to make so
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much out of your gift so that
you're minimizing other gifts or
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think that your gift doesn't
have a place or it's not
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important because they're all
there.
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And that that's where Joel takes
us.
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So this is a longer passage.
I'll read it, but I think it's
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instructive.
It comes out of First
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Corinthians 12:00 and it's 14
through 26.
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It says for the body is not one
member but many.
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And we know that.
And does he?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Where does he talk about?
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Oh, yeah, that's later on.
Yeah.
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So I'll start over.
For the body is not one member
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but many.
If the foot says because I am
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not a hand, I am not a part of
the body, it is not for this
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reason any less a part of the
body.
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And if the ear says because I'm
not an eye, I'm not a part of
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the body, it is not for this
reason any less a part of the
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body.
So that's kind of talking about
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the go.
I don't have that gift, so my
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gift isn't really that
important.
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And if the whole body were an I,
where would the hearing be?
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And if the whole body were
hearing, where would the sense
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of smell be?
So this is kind of the flip of
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that.
Like you can't, you know,
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everything is important.
We can't all be eyes in all
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sight.
We can't all be ears and all be
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hearing.
So verse 18.
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But now God has placed the
members, each one of them, in
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the body, just as He desired.
If they were all one member,
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they would where would the body
be?
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But now there are many members
but one body, and I cannot say
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the hand I have no need of you.
Or again, the head to the feet,
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I have no need of you.
On the contrary, it is much
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truer that the members of the
body which seem to be weaker are
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necessary, and those members of
the body which we deemed less
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honourable.
On these we bestow the most
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abundant honour, and our less
presentable members become much
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more presentable, whereas our
presentable members have no need
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of it.
But God has so composed a body
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giving much more abundant honor
to that member which lacked, so
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that there may be no division in
the body, but that the members
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may have the same care for one
another.
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And if one member suffers, all
the members suffer with it.
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If one member is honored, all
the members rejoice with it.
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Well, but he he really goes to
great lengths to develop his
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point.
It made me think if you're power
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ranking, like best body parts.
I mean, I mean, he he's got his
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rank.
He's thinking people like hands
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more than or you know, it's kind
of funny, but the point, the
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point stands that don't think of
yourself too much, whether that
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means you feel like you're
insignificant or overly
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significant.
It's not really about you.
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Point is, use your gifts and
value other people's gifting as
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well.
Great time to do a nursery shout
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out.
Yeah, we need nursery workers.
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Yeah, yeah, nursery comes up all
the time.
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I've never seen nursery as a
spiritual gift in the Bible.
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You don't, no, but service
definitely is.
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And so, you know, if you are
gifted in that way of behind the
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scenes service and and helping
out, then then yeah, then you
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then nursery is one of those
ways and you'll point out if you
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don't have nursery, what are you
going to?
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Do what's the Yeah, it's like no
one can come listen to the
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sermon.
It's it's craziness where there
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are some.
Congregations, that's all that
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are all blended.
Like we do the yeah, multi
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generational.
We love to hear the baby screw.
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I think there's something to
that too.
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I kind of like that, but I get
it too.
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It's like I, I think I would
like that for a couple services,
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but maybe not all the time, you
know what I mean?
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Yeah, I think we have a good
balance of having them.
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Well the younger younger babies
are in nursery.
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Obviously parents discretion but
then we have what is it?
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4th through 3rd grade. 4 year
old 3rd 3 year olds through 4th
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grade.
I I think it goes until you're 6
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OK six.
Maybe it used to be higher and
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now cuz when Jayden turned 6 or
maybe he turned 7.
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Maybe when you're done being
six.
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OK, you like start.
So 3 year olds through 6 year
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olds, I think it's 345 and six
year olds, I think.
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Yeah.
So that age around, they're with
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us during the worship service,
but then after worship service,
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they exit and they have a a
lesson in like some activities
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that.
Because part of me is like, may
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not like Lodi Bochum's idea.
I think it's great, but
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practically, and maybe Jaden
would pick on this earlier, I
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think Jaden's pretty a Stew or
pays attention well
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comparatively to where some of
my other children are.
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And he's at a good age for it.
But it's a struggle for him
441
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,360
where I'm like, I can't wait for
Jackson to get to this age.
442
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,720
It'll be it'll be more of a
struggle for him where it's like
443
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,000
I can I, you can learn at that
age, but I think it would be
444
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000
very challenging.
I remember I was a good student
445
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000
in school, like probably like
like Jay, like if there's a guy
446
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,560
that you thought he can sit
there and pay attention and get
447
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720
something out of the service, it
would be being and I would just
448
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,520
remember just being like, when
is this going to be over?
449
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,320
And then my getting in trouble
by my parents because I would,
450
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,760
you know, start doing stuff
'cause it was just, this is just
451
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080
really bad.
So yeah, I think it's it's a
452
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,080
good.
It's good to have that age.
453
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680
I like that age appropriate
lesson where if I asked Jackson,
454
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,000
what did you learn about in
junior church?
455
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,640
Like he knows what he learned
about where I don't think, well,
456
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,360
maybe you could say that with
Pastor Joel's sermon too.
457
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,640
But it it's I'm I'm happy where
we're where we have it.
458
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,720
So that's verse 3.
Let's continue to March onward
459
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840
with verses four and five, verse
4 or you got your hand up.
460
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,760
Oh no, Oh no.
Michael does this thing where he
461
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,120
knocks the mic at least twice a
podcast, so he's like guarding
462
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,520
himself.
No, yeah, you slam the table and
463
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,480
then I hear the the the reverb
of the the springs.
464
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,120
Sometimes Michael knocks the
mic.
465
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280
I often slam the table.
So I guess we all have our vices
466
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,200
that are problems about verse.
Four sorry sorry verse 4:00 and
467
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
5:00.
Of Romans 12 goes for just as we
468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,680
have many members in one body
and all the members do not have
469
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,960
the same function verse 5.
So we who are many are one body
470
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,880
in Christ, an individual member
one of another.
471
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,320
And the pastor, Joel does
something.
472
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,840
He does well, talking about all
the creation, all he goes either
473
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720
big into space or this, you
know, switching it up on us,
474
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480
going to the cells.
So I'm sitting in the service
475
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960
after we duck haunted and I get
a text from Jill and she's like,
476
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,800
how many cells are in the body?
And I was like, I don't know
477
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,280
exactly.
I'd say I I would.
478
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
She's like, don't look it up.
How many cells are in the body?
479
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760
And I was like three to seven
trillion would be my guess.
480
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840
So I feel like that's pretty.
That's a good guess.
481
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
That's pretty close.
That's a good guess, even though
482
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520
it's way off.
That's way I mean.
483
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,840
It's by a factor of 10.
Right, which depending on what
484
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,080
you're, I mean for this maybe
not that big a deal, but in most
485
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,280
things graph by a factor of 10,
that's a.
486
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,920
Big deal.
You know, probably a third or
487
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,840
fourth grader has that many
cells, so boom.
488
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Like the way you think, my
favorite was, I'm going to start
489
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,960
doing this.
Apparently Tim Bryant saw like,
490
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Pastor's notes before 'cause he,
yeah, 'cause in the you probably
491
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,520
get him, 'cause he wasn't miked
up.
492
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480
He was like 30 trillion and
Pastor's like, thanks a lot,
493
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Tim.
Like my my Yeah.
494
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,360
Well, she said she's she was
like Tim knew it exactly.
495
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,360
So I I think you think so.
I'm just guessing he might not
496
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,360
have because he.
Nailed it exactly.
497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880
Yeah, like I could, I could see,
like if someone guessed three or
498
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240
five, 7 trillion, that's a
really good guess.
499
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,200
But that makes sense that you
would not know.
500
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Exactly why?
Would she say 40 or 20?
501
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,720
I don't know, yeah.
But so maybe he didn't.
502
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Tim, I'm sorry if you knew that
'cause he might have 'cause I
503
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
remember Tim one time's been
like the heart pumps this like
504
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
he, like maybe he, he did this
for an example, maybe.
505
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640
Yeah, maybe he uses disease and
counselling or something.
506
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Yeah, some, some way.
Like in God control, you know,
507
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,960
God's overseen you every 30
trillion of a man.
508
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Yeah.
So 200 different types of cells
509
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,920
is what I got. 37 billion
bacteria in your body probably
510
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,240
I'm guessing a lot most of those
in your gut, but other places
511
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840
and I 47 different organs.
Was that right?
512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,720
That's what I thought I heard
you said.
513
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080
I did not.
We wanted to go back and see I.
514
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,960
Guess we'll never know.
Yeah, but the point is lots of
515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,440
different things going on in the
human body, lots of different
516
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,800
parts working together to make
you a complete person.
517
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,520
And so we go from this physical
body to a spiritual body, lots
518
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,600
of different parts in the
spiritual body of Christ that
519
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
have their different roles that
go together to make a complete
520
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200
spiritual person.
Yeah.
521
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,880
And it's pretty amazing because
that's the whole whole point is
522
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440
you got to work together.
Like you can be like a really
523
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
great hand, but if you're not
working in conjunction with
524
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,520
anything else, it ain't going to
ain't going to work.
525
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Well, we're with a lot of people
that have had some sort of
526
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000
stroke, some sort of deficit on
one side of their body and it's
527
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,240
like they can work.
It's coordinating everything is
528
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,240
such a challenge and that's hard
finding a body and serving where
529
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640
it's helpful because I think
it's easy to serve where
530
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,600
everyone wants to serve.
And it's like, oh, where do I,
531
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,880
how do you, I think that's a
good application?
532
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,120
Like how do you find that
balance?
533
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,480
Because to me, spiritual gifts
in one sense, you know, Pastor
534
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Joel's like leadership
teachings, my gifts.
535
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,080
And I think that's true.
You might have gifts like that,
536
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,720
but part of me too is like, man,
I think it is so context
537
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680
dependence where in one church
my gifting might be here in
538
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520
another church.
Like there's a time I was
539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,080
playing guitar with resolve.
That's not my spiritual gifting,
540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
but I can do like a terrible job
if like it needs to be done.
541
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,080
But if there's a Caleb Hawk, I
should never do it.
542
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
You know what I mean?
Like I, you know, so I think
543
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080
some of that drives are not,
well, I can play like 8 chords.
544
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Like I can do a chord.
I can't play guitar, but you
545
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,640
know, but I would do it every
now and then.
546
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760
And so that might be my gifts if
it needs to be done, but that's
547
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,120
not really my gifting.
I don't know.
548
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Yeah.
You know, I think that's good
549
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480
that there are ways that you
might be called to serve when
550
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,480
someone of a greater ability
isn't there 'cause it's a
551
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,800
smaller venue or something.
And then then in a larger venue
552
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,400
or when someone comes along, you
go, oh, we'll give that up.
553
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Similar like there was a Were
you ever there while I was
554
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920
playing key bass?
Oh, I don't know if I don't
555
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,760
know.
That's pretty cool key bass.
556
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Yeah, so did you.
Have like one of those piano.
557
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Guitars.
No, no, no.
558
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,360
Saying no.
It was just a electric piano,
559
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,160
and it was like Tim's piano
actually just.
560
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,360
Wait, let me pretend like you
were having one of these like,
561
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:13,960
guitar pianos.
You know what I'm talking about.
562
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,000
I know it's drama, but like
Tim's piano and then kind of
563
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720
where the bass guitarist sits
today, like in between them and
564
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320
the drums, like right, like
right in the line was this
565
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,440
electric piano And I was playing
the bass notes because we, there
566
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,360
was no, there was no one there
to play the bass notes and you
567
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,240
need the, the bass sound.
And then I was doing that maybe
568
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,880
for a year.
And then Richard Hartnett
569
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,920
started coming to our church.
And then like I, I play bass
570
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
guitar like boom, let's, let's
have you, let's have you in
571
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,520
there.
Yeah, that, that that's pretty
572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,400
cool.
That's a great example.
573
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Yeah.
Fill in the gap, someone's
574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160
coming in and he's been playing
the bass ever since.
575
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Yeah, well, well, now Wayne's
playing the bass.
576
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,960
Yeah, gotcha.
Cause Richard's on guitar.
577
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Richard's on acoustic guitar,
yeah, So yeah.
578
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Man, there's a lot going on over
there.
579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,600
I don't have the best vantage
point.
580
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480
I never know.
Never know how you guys cram so
581
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400
many people in a corner, but it
gets done.
582
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,280
It is all.
Right.
583
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,360
So in in all your ways, you know
you should use your gifts and I
584
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:16,760
really appreciate this.
Joel uses this picture of some
585
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520
dessert falling.
It's in it's in the notes here,
586
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920
but basically someone drops some
dessert on the floor and it's
587
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
all the different reactions.
Yeah, this is good that we'd
588
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,280
you'd have and I can, I can
identify clearly with one of the
589
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
ones and then which one do you
identify?
590
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,400
With that's a great question.
See again, I think it's context
591
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
dependence.
If it's my wife versus a visitor
592
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000
versus someone I'm building
into, I don't know, I feel like
593
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640
I feel like I have different
reactions based on who it is and
594
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720
maybe behind the.
Scenes.
595
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,240
No problem, J Well, depends on
what he he did, but I I might
596
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,560
lean into like, oh, this is
maybe why you did it wrong.
597
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,240
I don't know, let's kind of go
and like let's like revisit it.
598
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Was it like unweighted?
Because it was too heavy like.
599
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Maybe something like that.
I don't know if he was really
600
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,880
sad.
I might be merciful if I was
601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,120
like, he was devastated, you
know?
602
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Because you can see all of them.
Yeah, all of them are, are
603
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
appropriate.
So yeah, basically there's these
604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640
seven people around and one
person says, let me help you
605
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
clean that up.
And if that's your initial
606
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
reaction to someone spilling
some dessert on the floor, then
607
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320
you might have the gift of
service because the motivation
608
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
is to fulfill that physical
need.
609
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,560
That's right there.
Me, my initial reaction would be
610
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
the tray fell because it was too
heavy on one side.
611
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Then you might have to get to
teaching.
612
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Your motivation is to discover
why something happened.
613
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200
You know, kind of figure out the
mechanics behind it and help it
614
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760
prevent it if someone said
that's what happens when you're
615
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840
not careful.
That is a true prophet.
616
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Yeah.
You know that's.
617
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,720
What happens when you're not
careful?
618
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,400
We all know that guy.
Yeah, yeah.
619
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,680
The motivation is to correct the
life, you know, correct
620
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840
someone's actions, prophecy.
Someone might say, next time
621
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
maybe we should just serve
dessert with the mill.
622
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
I don't really that as a
teacher, that makes no sense.
623
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Are you helping anyone?
Yeah.
624
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Yeah, but they're trying to, you
know, help correct the future,
625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,840
like look towards the future.
And that's would be the gift of
626
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
exhortation.
That's OK.
627
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
I'll just buy a new dessert.
That's nice.
628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Yeah, that is very giving, very
generous.
629
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Yeah, give to giving to give
some type of tangible need.
630
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Here's where Jill would be.
Oh, don't feel bad.
631
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Accidents happen sometimes.
We all.
632
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840
It all happens to everyone.
Yeah, where?
633
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Where's the one?
That's like just busting out the
634
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,920
laughter.
You did it again.
635
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,680
You've done it three, you know.
Yeah, that's funny.
636
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Not a spiritual gift.
That's, you know, just openly
637
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,120
mocking.
Yeah, yeah.
638
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520
So that was a gift of mercy and
the last one, gift of
639
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
leadership, of administration.
OK, Jim, grab the mop.
640
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Sue, start picking up the
pieces.
641
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Mary, let's figure out how to
make some more dessert.
642
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
I love it.
It's like I, I, I like the way
643
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000
they're problem solving.
I love how it's like an, it's
644
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160
like, you know, we're getting on
everything.
645
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520
But I think that was a very
helpful illustration just to
646
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840
show how they all do work in
different ways to solve the
647
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,520
problem.
Right.
648
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
And then so Pastor goes from
this to kind of another
649
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
illustration going back to those
puzzle pieces, having people
650
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,520
pull it out, talks about doing
puzzles over Christmas.
651
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Now I have picture evidence of
this that we'll put up in a
652
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,960
moment, but Pastor talks about
doing some puzzles with his
653
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
grandchildren.
Were they in Atlanta?
654
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Is that what he said?
Maybe.
655
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,240
I don't know.
Yeah.
656
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Yeah, somewhere.
Yeah.
657
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
And I guess maybe they got some
puzzle pieces from a thrift
658
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920
store or something.
That's a.
659
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000
That's a huge mistake.
A huge mistake.
660
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
I take puzzles to thrift stores
just because they're missing
661
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,880
pieces.
So I'm just kidding.
662
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,120
I took it to where pastors about
the shots.
663
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Yeah, so they put these puzzles
together and like, missing 13
664
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,800
pieces.
OK.
665
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320
So I don't know, maybe it was
you.
666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,320
OK.
Someone.
667
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Yeah, it's probably is.
Me.
668
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Maybe it was Nate, Nate and
Jess, we don't know.
669
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,880
But before we left for
Christmas, the kids clubs had a
670
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
gift exchange, OK?
And you're supposed to bring age
671
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,720
appropriate gifts.
OK, someone gifted Phoebe 1000
672
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,840
piece.
Puzzle it.
673
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Wasn't me but I wish it was that
next year I'm going bigger and.
674
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120
She she was all excited about
it.
675
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640
And of course, you know what
happened?
676
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Like so we start doing this at
Juju and Potaddies and it's like
677
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800
me and Lydia putting in the long
haul of it and like Phoebe
678
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,640
coming along and she's like,
could I get 1000 monies because
679
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560
of this is 1000 piece puzzle?
What is 1000 monies?
680
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
And I was like maybe 1000
pennies or something like that.
681
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
So we put it together
painstakingly.
682
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Wow, what was it?
It was Charlie Brown Christmas.
683
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080
It was nice.
I'll put a picture of it right
684
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,680
here because we opened that new
and it was missing a piece, but
685
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,920
we had an extra it was like a
duplicate edge piece which would
686
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
throw it totally threw us off
because like we.
687
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Where's this?
Where's this?
688
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Edge piece goes.
So we had one extra piece and we
689
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
could like you could take one
out and put the other one in,
690
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880
one out, put the other one in.
And then we were missing a piece
691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
over here.
And that's, that was very
692
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
frustrating.
Man, this, this is my move my
693
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360
family loves doing.
My grandmother especially.
694
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Like, puzzles are always out.
Like during holidays, my move is
695
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
to come through, take a couple.
Yep, snap a piece.
696
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,680
And then everyone's like,
where's the last piece?
697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920
And now they know it's me.
And so they're, like trying to
698
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
see when I stealed it.
So, you know, I've got to keep
699
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,400
people honest, you know?
Yeah.
700
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Yeah, the point of all the
puzzle talk was that there are
701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920
no missing pieces.
When God hands out these puzzle
702
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880
pieces, God knows how to take
the different pieces in your
703
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560
local area.
If you're using your gift for
704
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,600
God's glory for others, good,
you're going to be transformed
705
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200
by that.
And He is going to make a puzzle
706
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960
picture out of that that honors
him and is good for the church.
707
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,400
So good, so good.
We're at verse verses 6 through
708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080
8.
Since we have gifts that differ
709
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,200
according to the grace given to
us, each of us is to exercise
710
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,000
them accordingly.
This is the part Michael was
711
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
talking about, a prophecy
according to the proportion of
712
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,400
his faith of service and his
serving.
713
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
He who teaches in his teaching,
or he who exhorts in his
714
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,199
exhortation, He who gives with
liberality, He who leads with
715
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,199
diligence, He who shows mercy
with cheerfulness.
716
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,639
Now it's good and, and Joel
asked this question, you know,
717
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,120
why does Paul list these 7
gifts?
718
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Is there something special about
them?
719
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
And when we went through, maybe
we should link it.
720
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,080
But we did do a spiritual Part 1
and Part 2, kind of like around
721
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
the late spring and then one in
summer.
722
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,840
They're out there.
But if you take Paul's or the
723
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,679
Bible's treatment of spiritual
gifts chronologically,
724
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,120
Corinthians is first.
It's very early and you have all
725
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,840
these gifts they list.
And then I think it's Ephesians
726
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,040
next.
Or is it Romans next?
727
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,840
And then Ephesians, one of those
is next.
728
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,880
And then you get down to Peter
where he basically says speaking
729
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,159
and serving.
Yeah, I like it.
730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,560
So I think sometimes we can go
off the rails if we start
731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
listing everything as a
spiritual gift.
732
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
I think if it doesn't fit into
speaking or serving in those two
733
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520
broad categories, and then it's
probably not a spiritual gift.
734
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I think you're
735
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
probably right.
And I struggle with this too,
736
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,720
where it's like we price it as
another podcast.
737
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,720
It's like, it's why I never come
to a church work day.
738
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,760
I don't do serving.
It's not my gift.
739
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,240
You know what I mean?
It's like, I can't serve.
740
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
I wish God would have gifted me
but I can't pick up chairs.
741
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,400
So we had I'll, I'll, I'll.
So spiritual gifts in action,
742
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,800
you know?
Yeah, so, so I showed up at our
743
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
little elders thing at the
Hughes where, you know, they had
744
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,440
us over for dinner and we played
some games and I was a little
745
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
bit early.
I was coming from podcasting
746
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
that night from your house.
I just went straight there.
747
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080
So I beat Jill there and I was
kind of the first one there.
748
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,160
So I'm walking up and as I'm
walking up kind of halfway
749
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,360
through the door, like Sarah and
Danny are opening the door for
750
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,120
me and I see Joel and Diana come
up and I'm like, oh, so kind of
751
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,000
torn.
So I'm like, well, I will go
752
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,120
spend time with the host.
Like I don't want to turn my
753
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520
back on the host and stuff.
But then Diana and Joel walk in
754
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,640
and not carrying a whole bunch
of stuff.
755
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,360
I was like, I should have
thought that you might need help
756
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,080
to bring stuff in and someone
who has a gift to service
757
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
probably would have picked the
other way.
758
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040
You know, I'm, you know, trying
to, trying to figure out, you
759
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
know, you know, 'cause sometimes
you just don't think about
760
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,480
honestly physical things.
Instead of spiritual gifts,
761
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480
inventory spiritual gifts.
Quick reaction.
762
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Like put them in situations you
gotta pick.
763
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,720
What are you gonna do?
Oh, you served OK.
764
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,920
That you know.
Oh, mercy.
765
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,880
You know, that's great.
Let's go.
766
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Spill something in front of
them.
767
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
See what you do 'cause how do
you discover your spiritual
768
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,720
gifts?
Prayer practice, regular
769
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,440
interest.
I didn't mean to skip over the
770
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
list of seven if we wanna, you
know, flesh those out.
771
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040
More No, I think it's fine.
Prophecy, faith, service,
772
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960
serving, teaching, teaching,
exhortation, exhortation,
773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,000
giving, liberality, leading with
diligence, mercy, cheerfulness.
774
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
So for, for some of them, just
do your gift.
775
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,400
If you're a teacher, teach.
That's right.
776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Yeah, that's right.
If you're if you're gift of
777
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640
serving, serve.
Yeah, if you give like give a
778
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,400
lot, like, like don't give a
little bit.
779
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Yeah, it kind of makes sense,
right?
780
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,120
Yeah, that's good.
Well, pray about your spiritual
781
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,440
gift, practice them, jump into
it and maybe see where your
782
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,520
interests dovetail.
Cause most of us might say, hey,
783
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
why doesn't this church do this
or why don't they do that?
784
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,160
It's like maybe This is why so
you can fill this role.
785
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Yeah, no, it's very good.
Joel kind of ends with this
786
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680
illustration of Snowman the
horse.
787
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
There is a movie about this
horse that you can go see.
788
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
I don't remember the name of it,
but we watched it and it was
789
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,560
really good.
And it details this horse that
790
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,560
was up for auction and this guy
was actually late to the
791
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,920
auction.
Like this.
792
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
The horse, something happened, I
don't remember.
793
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,280
Let's just pretend like his
truck breaks down or something
794
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040
or and they had to get it fixed.
So he gets there late and it's
795
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
like there's two horses left.
He bids on this one and the guy
796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,280
he's bidding against is from the
glue factory and he outbids this
797
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,720
guy and everyone's like why did
you get that horse, blah, blah
798
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,760
blah blah.
Feeds them, does well them, has
799
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
a really good relationship with
the horse, but the horse doesn't
800
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
really do anything.
So he sells them to a neighbor
801
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,400
who wanted him and the horse
really liked that owner.
802
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,160
And so that the horse kept
coming back to the original
803
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120
owner and they figured out he is
jumping these very high fences
804
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,680
to get back to this original
owner.
805
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
So they like, oh, let's see what
this guy can do.
806
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,240
And it turns out this horse is
an amazing jumper, wins show
807
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Horse of the Year twice in a row
for his jumping abilities.
808
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,760
And so the the point to this
story is when you look at your
809
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,480
fellow church members, do you
see the horse jumper or do you
810
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,680
see the guy that's like, he's
just ready for the glue, you
811
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,280
know?
Yeah.
812
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,720
That's crazy.
That's what what a difference in
813
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,280
in outcomes Like, wow, a
champion, Yeah.
814
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Go watch the movie, it's good,
you'll cry.
815
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,600
We don't.
We don't.
816
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Yeah.
We don't know what it's called,
817
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
but go watch it.
Go.
818
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280
Go find it.
Moving to application.
819
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,720
Do you know your spiritual
gifts?
820
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880
If you don't do those things,
pray, try different things,
821
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,760
maybe talk to leadership.
And if you, you know, do think
822
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
about these things, write it
down, put in your Bible, pray
823
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,920
over.
We had the puzzle piece
824
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,800
specifically.
Pastor Joel gave out such a
825
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
weird kind of task to think
about in our congregation.
826
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,240
Yeah, and if you were to leave
your current church, would they
827
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,880
miss you?
Yeah, that's that's.
828
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Yeah.
Are you doing something?
829
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Are you kind of fulfilling a
role there?
830
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,480
And if not, why not, you know,
see how you can get plugged in.
831
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,720
And you know, sometimes how you
think you might get plugged in
832
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,040
may not work in that local
place, but I assure you there is
833
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,880
a place for you to get plugged
in.
834
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600
And then lastly, do you
encourage others here in the use
835
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,680
of their gifts?
So at your church, are you?
836
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,920
And if you're not an elder, I
mean, I'm not saying you can't,
837
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
but like, I feel like, you know,
there are some people who have
838
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680
this gift of encouragement and
that's probably not going to be
839
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
everyone if you're, but maybe
how you can encourage folks.
840
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
I think that's great.
Add it to the, you know,
841
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,640
spiritual gifts podcast.
We we, we've done and I don't I
842
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,160
got nothing else.
Anything else you want to add?
843
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Yeah, I'll just say this is.
It's this one.
844
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:26,040
Yeah, this is our 100th full
length episode.
845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah, so plus our bonus episodes
that we've done and the.
846
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,280
Shorts of where?
You're breaking an earring into
847
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Yeah.
So I'll just say, you know, if
848
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,320
you've enjoyed this podcast, I
think it helps.
849
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,440
I think we saw like initial bump
from friends and family who
850
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
watched and then, you know, it's
not everyone's cup of tea, just
851
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,640
like it may not be your
spiritual gift.
852
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320
So we saw, you know, some
number, but now I think we we
853
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,520
can kind of continually steadily
grow like from folks we don't
854
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,440
know.
So that's great.
855
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,800
That's really cool.
Yeah.
856
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,000
So share the podcast.
I love it.
857
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,720
That would be a great way to
celebrate the 100th episode.
858
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Share, share the podcast.
And this is Do we know what
859
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,280
episode of romances or?
I should look it up.
860
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,960
It's probably in the hot mid to
high 30s thirties.
861
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,600
I'd say like probably 343536
somewhere in that area, but I'd
862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,760
I'd have to go I I need to go
back and count them.
863
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,680
So awesome.
Well.
864
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Happy 100th episode.
Yeah, that's our take.
865
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
866
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800
Find us wherever you find
podcast and on YouTube for those
867
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,200
who want to watch our video
cast.
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,520
So been back from duck hunting
almost exactly a week.
2
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,720
We got in late, well, late late
last Monday, early Tuesday
3
00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,400
morning, by the time I got to my
house.
4
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680
I heard it was profitable slash
cold slash snowy.
5
00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,360
It was, yeah.
So.
6
00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,800
Like best, best one ever.
I'm not saying you guys have not
7
00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,320
done well, but it's been like
good, maybe not bad, kind of in
8
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,240
the middle.
And this one was like, amazing.
9
00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,960
Yeah, I guess you could by the
numbers, definitely the most,
10
00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,680
the best one ever is our first
morning we got a limit, A5 men
11
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,160
limit.
Lee was there for a little bit
12
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,760
and then he left.
So we don't really know how
13
00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,720
much, how many he killed.
And and then we found a frozen
14
00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,840
Drake Mallard from probably the
day before, 'cause sometimes
15
00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,320
they swim off and it was so cold
it was like frozen.
16
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,680
So we're like this is this is
fine, we will.
17
00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400
'Cause I heard you were saying
like you had a different crew
18
00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,680
this year, that was better luck
than your crew from last year.
19
00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,720
Is that what you were saying?
Well, it was basically it was
20
00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,880
the same crew minus a couple.
Who?
21
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That's what I'm getting at.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
You're saying they're bad luck?
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No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
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No, but yeah, so we really went
down for the snow, 'cause that
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snow pushes them.
And the morning that it snowed,
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we saw tons and tons in the air
and none of them came to us.
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So it was the morning before the
morning of the snow that we did
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our best.
And then then there were a
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couple days that we got, you
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one day that.
Sounds pretty good, yeah.
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Yeah, when there's some days in
time faster, you get one all day
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and it's like, oh, those are
tough days.
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Yeah, 'cause you're out, you're
out in the elements.
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It's probably.
I mean, I'm sure it's fun, but
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it's also cold.
Right, right.
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Yeah, and couple big things
happen.
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You make me notice this.
I didn't notice it until now.
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Elite.
Not just duck calls, but elite
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duck calls.
So that was that was a big
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turning point in my
transformation, my growth as a
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duck hunter, because I had a
duck call that I got based on
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Clayton's recommendation.
He's like, this was my first
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beginning one it, you know, it's
not the most expensive, but you
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know, you can get it kind of see
and play 'cause you may, you may
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not want to buy $150.00 duck
call out of the gate.
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And man, that duck call, I did
everything that I, I could on it
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and I just could not get it to
sound good.
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And I thought, maybe I'm just
not.
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Cutting the duck call.
And there's this place in
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Searcy, like 13 miles from where
we grew up in Bald Knob that my
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father in law's been, he talks
about every time we go.
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They're like, oh, did you have
you ever gone to that place?
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You ever gone to the place?
And so we had the the morning
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that we got our limit, we had
because you're done hunting,
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you're done because we follow
the rules.
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Some people get their room in
the morning and they just like
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and then they go back out in the
afternoon and you know, and
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that's not that's not legal.
Yeah.
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So we had some time, was like,
OK, let's go to this duck
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hunting, this duck calling
place.
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So got there and it was kind of
comical because Clayton's really
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the only one who calls a lot.
And so this guy, it was just
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kind of awkward.
He's just like kept giving these
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calls to Clayton, like try this
one, try this one, try this one.
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And he's like, this one's
$150.00, this one's $140.
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And he's just calling away.
Yeah, yeah.
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And he's like.
And finally he goes, we do have
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the injection molded fancy word
for plastic that he's like,
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those are $40.
And I was like, OK, I'm gonna, I
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gotta not only do I need an, a
call, but you know, I, I feel
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like I, you know, I brought us
here.
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So I was like, OK, I will get,
you know, I was like, which one
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out of the plastic ones would
you recommend?
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So I got it changed.
Game.
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It was a game changer, Yeah.
And so much to the fact that
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there was a time when some
ducks, you know, Clayton wasn't
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specifically ready.
And he was like, Michael, get on
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the duck call.
Never would have said that in.
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Wow, Clayton gave you the green
light.
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You're an elite duck.
Call from Get that, Get that.
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Get those people to sponsor this
podcast.
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And one time called in four.
Man.
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Gadwall.
Oh yeah, I love those ducks.
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Two of them got feet down in the
water.
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Now I'll just.
That may sound great to someone,
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but Gadwall's, Gaddy's, they're
not the smartest ducks, so
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they're a little bit easier to
bring in than than maybe a
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Mallard.
No, it's a little bit more I'm.
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Going to say every, I know you
don't have the duck call with
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you, but can you into the
microphone?
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The noise that you would try to
make in the duck call just for
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the audience?
I think the audience would love
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to hear this since you're an
elite duck collar.
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Now, Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Well, we could talk about
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Inharmonic dissonance and and
and what's needed because really
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you need 2 frequencies that are
kind of close to each other or a
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frequency that fights with
another frequency to make that
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that duck sound, that quack
sound.
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Cannot understand it unless I
hear it.
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Yeah, give me try to make.
It no, that's good.
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I'm not good, all right, I'm
trying but.
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Out of that, out of that one day
we were duck hunting and Curtis
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Clayton's brother was with us.
And they were it was not like a
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big, I don't want to make this a
bigger squabble than what it
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was, But there was some this
they were like jokingly in a
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disagreement about something.
And I hear Clayton turn to
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Curtis and say stop being a
worker of iniquity.
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So who say say, who's that?
Clayton says this stop being a
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worker of iniquity.
And I was like, that's great.
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So, you know, maybe 5-6 episodes
ago, I don't know how many you
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had these half baked ideas and I
thought maybe 1/2 baked idea is
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to to come up with some
biblically based insults or cut
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downs, you know, or admonitions.
That's.
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Actually sounding fully big to
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I'm liking.
Your heads out, let's do it.
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So I did some research and here
are some, here are some, some
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that you might want 'cause you
want to.
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We're always, let's get
meditating on the word, quoting
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scripture, letting scripture
influence your life.
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So, you know, if you have, you
know, someone that you just
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can't stand anymore or
something, you could just say
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you son of a perverse and
rebellious woman that that could
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go over pretty good.
That's a That's a good one for.
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All the men out there, if your
wives are just not acting right,
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they've all been there.
Yeah.
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You just pull a proverb at at
them like you're a gold ring and
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a pig snout.
You know, I think that would
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really help them build them.
Was that in the Marriage class,
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Tim?
That's what that's.
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What Tim was saying or, or this
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This is a slight paraphrase of
Job 19.
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Your breath disgust your wife,
everyone in your family turns
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away.
Young children can't stand you.
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And when you come near, they
make fun.
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So.
That that's a mouthful, but I
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like.
It it's a zinger.
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I like how you know, if it's not
formal enough, pull up the old
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KJV if you're feeling a little
loose, let's get NLT.
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Let's get the message out there.
You can have some fun with it.
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You know that's.
Right, Just skipping around
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here, like if you have someone
who's making too big of an idea,
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you know, like, hey, this is not
that big of a deal.
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Don't tell them that.
Say you strain at a gnat, but
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swallow a camel.
You know that's Jesus's.
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Word.
I love that.
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Just keep scripture on our own.
This is good, I love it.
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Here are some questionable ones.
You know, we we tend to take out
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some of the innuendo or some of
the like we paraphrase.
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So I won't, I won't.
I'll just say it and then you
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can kind of think.
But remember when Rhea Boehm was
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was under pressure, like from
his wise counsel and his
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friends.
And he says this, my little
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finger is thicker than my
father's loins.
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So if you research that he's
he's, he's saying something a
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little bit.
I could see that.
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A little bit, but you know,
maybe that's a cut down you
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could.
If you need to do it, yeah, it's
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probably better than the more
explicit version.
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Right.
Yeah, that's right.
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And then finally, here's another
one of the questionable ones.
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You you could do.
Oh.
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Do we need to put like an E on
this podcast?
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Like like 1. 2nd This is what
the Assyrians to the men on
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Jerusalem's wall, they say, has
my master sent me to speak these
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words to your master and to you
and not to the people sitting on
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the wall who are doomed to eat
their own dung and drink their
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own urine.
It's, it's like, that's, that's
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so you can be like, man, you're
doomed to eat your own dung and
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drink your own urine.
That's that's a little bit
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strong, but it's it's biblical.
We want to keep it biblical.
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That's great.
That's great.
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Honestly, all much better than
what what you might want to say.
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So, you know, I like, I like it
a lot.
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We're heads that we need some
T-shirts made and we need we.
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There's a lot of ways.
To merch, Yeah, yeah, get some
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merch.
Oh, that's good.
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Well, I think, you know, that
that ties in well with spiritual
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gifts.
That calling might be your
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spiritual gifts.
You know, quoting Scripture
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could be so much spiritual
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I like when we, when we play
volleyball, sometimes I like to
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say pastor's got the gift of
service as he spikes it.
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Not pastoral gifts, but yeah, I
love it.
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Great, great banter made a lot
packed in.
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I'm loving it.
What what the love the duck
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hunting love it all.
We're going to jump into Romans
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12/3 through 8 looking at this
sermon titled You're Special.
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You are special.
Let's take it to the next level
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from the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.
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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next
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level.
All right, you are special
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Romans 12/3 through 8.
And I wasn't here for this
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sermon, but I did listen to it
did take some notes.
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We were nice.
We haunted this morning and then
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we went to church.
So we we did both.
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Nice, I was gonna ask.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Glad you're on the but I bet at
your church service that you
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went to, were you given a puzzle
piece?
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We were not given a puzzle
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No, no.
I.
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Wonder how many I wonder did we
what did we buy one puzzle that
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was like a 500 piece puzzle.
I didn't look at what I saw the.
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Pieces in the thing Wednesday
when we came in and they looked
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like they were from different
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Yeah, it means just cause Pastor
hell up his piece, and that was
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not from the same puzzle my
piece was from, but it was like
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a normal 1.
He had like the awesome puzzle
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piece that was like coolly
shaped.
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But something Pastor Joel does
well is object lessons.
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You know he's gonna he's gonna
find out a way to make you
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remember his sermon.
That's right.
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Yeah.
And so he, Joel, was all excited
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about spiritual gifts because
that's what this, this is.
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He he was going on and he gave a
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couple reasons for his
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One, 'cause he sees this as his
responsibility and really our
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responsibility as elders as well
as we look to try to shape and
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encourage people, not that we
are the ones giving out the
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gifts, but you know, once the
gifts are given, we want to
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encourage people and help them
figure out how to use those.
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He goes to Ephesians 411 through
13, he says, and he gave some as
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apostles, some as prophets, some
as evangelists, and some as
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pastors and teachers for the
equipment of the Saints, for the
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work of service to building up
of the body of Christ.
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And here's kind of the key
thought until we all attain to
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the unity of the faith and to
the knowledge of the Son of God,
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to a mature man, to the measure
of the stature which belongs to
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the fullness of Christ.
So I mean, what more could we
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want as shepherd pastors, elders
of a flock is to help people see
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that.
And part of that is using your
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spiritual gift, kind of if you
use your spiritual gift with the
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fruit of the Spirit, that's kind
of really.
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That's a that's a sweet spot.
That's a sweet spot right there.
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Yeah, and and Pastor leans into
this strongly as he should.
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He's saying I'm doing you a
favor, which that that's the
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right take on it.
Because I think when you ask
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someone to step into something
and sort of like, it's OK if
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people can't do it or whatever,
but sometimes you might be like,
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can you do this?
I feel like I'm putting you out.
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It's like, no, I'm helping you
realize your potential for what
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And I think there there's, if
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you really believe in Scripture,
that's how you're going to
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approach it.
No, that's good.
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And I was just looking for
'cause he hands out the puzzle
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piece, but then he, I think he
OK, so he talks about it later
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on.
So he hands it out and he talks
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about it a little bit, but then
he's going to bring it in later.
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So, so as you may know, we are
in this next section of Romans.
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So just a little bit of review.
There was, you know, 11 chapters
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of doctrine, maybe the most, you
know, the largest section of
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just doctrine in the New
Testament.
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You would think maybe I.
Think you might be on to
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something there?
Maybe Hebrews?
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I don't know.
Hebrews might rival it for for
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just straight up doctrine.
And then we turn this page from,
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you know what we should believe
to how we should act and what is
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our responsibility.
That was the sermon before this
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one.
Romans 12/1 through two.
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That is our reasonable act of
service, of worship, that we
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would present ourselves as
living sacrifices and that we
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would not be conformed to this
world, but rather transformed by
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the renewing of our mind.
And by that we would know what
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is good and acceptable and
perfect in God's eyes.
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And so, you know, we've talked
about the Jensen chart.
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We can put it up here.
But we've been through, you
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know, a lot of this.
Now we're turning this corner
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into this application.
I bet if we cut how much we've
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talked about the Jensen chart,
we might make our own podcast
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about the Jensen chart.
But spiritual gifts, if you're
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going to talk about them, we
kind of know what they are.
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We need to define our terms
because I think even if you
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define it, this is a struggle
point.
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Like what is a spiritual gift?
All these inventories, some of
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these have like 20-5 different
categories.
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You're like, what?
And then you know what, what's
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the goal?
How are they used?
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All these things.
So Pastor Joel starts out with
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his definition, which I think is
a good definition.
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He's a special abilities
graciously given to us by God
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for our serving and building up
the church.
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If he had to put it into one
word, he would say they're
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tools, but you know, it's what
you can use to serve the church.
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I think his definition is good
and kind of touches on all the
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all the big big points.
Yeah, and he makes the point
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that all of us have them.
And it's like God just went
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through the church and he's
handing out tools from his tool
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bags.
They're different.
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Some people got a hammer, some
people got a saw, some people
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got a screwdriver, some people
got A and.
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Not even that.
Some people got different size
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hammers, different size.
It's like all over the place.
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It's good.
Yeah, and I thought, I thought
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it was cool that he pointed this
out, not cool that he pointed
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out.
But I, I'd never thought of
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this.
But you know, you go through
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that one and two, it's like this
is your reasonable act of
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spiritual service be
transformed.
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And the very next thing he talks
about in this scripture of
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application is the use of
spiritual gifts like.
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That's telling, yeah.
It's telling that this is big
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for Paul.
Big a big deal, so let's jump
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into the text.
Romans, 12/3 through eight.
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I'll read it for us here.
Paul writes.
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For through the grace given to
me, I say to everyone among you,
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not to think more highly of
himself than he ought to think,
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but to think so as to have sound
judgment, as God has allotted to
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each a measure of faith.
For just as we have been, just
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as we have many members in one
body, and all the members do not
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have the same function, so we
who are many are one body in
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Christ, and individually members
one of another.
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Since we have gifts that differ
according to the grace given to
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us, each of us is to exercise
them accordingly.
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If prophecy according to the
proportion of his faith, if
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service and is serving, or he
who teaches in his teaching, or
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he who exhorts in his
exhortation, He who gives with
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liberality, He who leads with
diligent, He who shows mercy
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with cheerfulness.
Yeah, that's good.
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And it's it's really compact.
And then the last part of it,
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it's really kind of it's almost
like he's repeating like if
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you're a teacher teach, if
you're a prophet, you know, you
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need need to do that with
faithfulness.
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So it's good.
So verse three, kind of just
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reviewing, kind of expositing,
it says for the grace given to
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me, probably because he's an
apostle, part of his calling,
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his ministry, he's going to tell
us.
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And what he tells us is to be
humble, to use sound judgement
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so that we're not going to think
too highly of ourselves.
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And then that these gifts have
been allotted to each of us by a
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measure of faith.
And so we are not better than
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others because of our gifting.
Paul doesn't, you know, 1st
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Corinthians 14, he'll say, you
know, seek after the greater
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gifts.
So there may be, you know, I
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guess what does that mean?
But it doesn't mean that some
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gifts aren't important or that
you are lesser because you have
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a, a lesser gift.
If there are, you know.
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Yeah, I I like that he points it
out.
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Because there's nothing that can
just like derail a church or
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situation more than someone
who's like just adamant that
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they are, you know, God's gift
to everything and they want you
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to mainly because of them.
Or pastor makes his application
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as well.
We'll probably talk about later
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on.
But like you were kind of saying
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too, it kind of cuts the other
way.
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And I think sometimes I've got
this like, yeah, I could do
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that.
But like, what's the like, how
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am I going to make a difference?
Like, you can think about
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yourself too much in that one
way or the other, but you're
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still probably thinking about
yourself too much.
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Yeah, yeah.
I think Paul makes both of those
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points in First Corinthians that
you you don't need to make so
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much out of your gift so that
you're minimizing other gifts or
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think that your gift doesn't
have a place or it's not
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important because they're all
there.
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And that that's where Joel takes
us.
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So this is a longer passage.
I'll read it, but I think it's
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instructive.
It comes out of First
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Corinthians 12:00 and it's 14
through 26.
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It says for the body is not one
member but many.
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And we know that.
And does he?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Where does he talk about?
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Oh, yeah, that's later on.
Yeah.
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So I'll start over.
For the body is not one member
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but many.
If the foot says because I am
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not a hand, I am not a part of
the body, it is not for this
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reason any less a part of the
body.
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And if the ear says because I'm
not an eye, I'm not a part of
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the body, it is not for this
reason any less a part of the
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body.
So that's kind of talking about
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the go.
I don't have that gift, so my
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gift isn't really that
important.
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And if the whole body were an I,
where would the hearing be?
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And if the whole body were
hearing, where would the sense
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of smell be?
So this is kind of the flip of
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that.
Like you can't, you know,
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everything is important.
We can't all be eyes in all
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sight.
We can't all be ears and all be
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hearing.
So verse 18.
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But now God has placed the
members, each one of them, in
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the body, just as He desired.
If they were all one member,
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they would where would the body
be?
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But now there are many members
but one body, and I cannot say
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the hand I have no need of you.
Or again, the head to the feet,
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I have no need of you.
On the contrary, it is much
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truer that the members of the
body which seem to be weaker are
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necessary, and those members of
the body which we deemed less
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honourable.
On these we bestow the most
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abundant honour, and our less
presentable members become much
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more presentable, whereas our
presentable members have no need
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of it.
But God has so composed a body
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giving much more abundant honor
to that member which lacked, so
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that there may be no division in
the body, but that the members
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may have the same care for one
another.
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And if one member suffers, all
the members suffer with it.
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If one member is honored, all
the members rejoice with it.
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Well, but he he really goes to
great lengths to develop his
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point.
It made me think if you're power
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ranking, like best body parts.
I mean, I mean, he he's got his
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rank.
He's thinking people like hands
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more than or you know, it's kind
of funny, but the point, the
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point stands that don't think of
yourself too much, whether that
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means you feel like you're
insignificant or overly
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significant.
It's not really about you.
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Point is, use your gifts and
value other people's gifting as
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well.
Great time to do a nursery shout
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out.
Yeah, we need nursery workers.
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Yeah, yeah, nursery comes up all
the time.
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I've never seen nursery as a
spiritual gift in the Bible.
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You don't, no, but service
definitely is.
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And so, you know, if you are
gifted in that way of behind the
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scenes service and and helping
out, then then yeah, then you
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then nursery is one of those
ways and you'll point out if you
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don't have nursery, what are you
going to?
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Do what's the Yeah, it's like no
one can come listen to the
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sermon.
It's it's craziness where there
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are some.
Congregations, that's all that
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are all blended.
Like we do the yeah, multi
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generational.
We love to hear the baby screw.
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I think there's something to
that too.
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I kind of like that, but I get
it too.
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It's like I, I think I would
like that for a couple services,
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but maybe not all the time, you
know what I mean?
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Yeah, I think we have a good
balance of having them.
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Well the younger younger babies
are in nursery.
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Obviously parents discretion but
then we have what is it?
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4th through 3rd grade. 4 year
old 3rd 3 year olds through 4th
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grade.
I I think it goes until you're 6
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OK six.
Maybe it used to be higher and
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now cuz when Jayden turned 6 or
maybe he turned 7.
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Maybe when you're done being
six.
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OK, you like start.
So 3 year olds through 6 year
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olds, I think it's 345 and six
year olds, I think.
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Yeah.
So that age around, they're with
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us during the worship service,
but then after worship service,
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they exit and they have a a
lesson in like some activities
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that.
Because part of me is like, may
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not like Lodi Bochum's idea.
I think it's great, but
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practically, and maybe Jaden
would pick on this earlier, I
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think Jaden's pretty a Stew or
pays attention well
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comparatively to where some of
my other children are.
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And he's at a good age for it.
But it's a struggle for him
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where I'm like, I can't wait for
Jackson to get to this age.
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It'll be it'll be more of a
struggle for him where it's like
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I can I, you can learn at that
age, but I think it would be
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very challenging.
I remember I was a good student
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in school, like probably like
like Jay, like if there's a guy
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that you thought he can sit
there and pay attention and get
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something out of the service, it
would be being and I would just
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remember just being like, when
is this going to be over?
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And then my getting in trouble
by my parents because I would,
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you know, start doing stuff
'cause it was just, this is just
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really bad.
So yeah, I think it's it's a
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good.
It's good to have that age.
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I like that age appropriate
lesson where if I asked Jackson,
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what did you learn about in
junior church?
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Like he knows what he learned
about where I don't think, well,
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maybe you could say that with
Pastor Joel's sermon too.
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But it it's I'm I'm happy where
we're where we have it.
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So that's verse 3.
Let's continue to March onward
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with verses four and five, verse
4 or you got your hand up.
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Oh no, Oh no.
Michael does this thing where he
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knocks the mic at least twice a
podcast, so he's like guarding
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himself.
No, yeah, you slam the table and
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then I hear the the the reverb
of the the springs.
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Sometimes Michael knocks the
mic.
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I often slam the table.
So I guess we all have our vices
466
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,200
that are problems about verse.
Four sorry sorry verse 4:00 and
467
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
5:00.
Of Romans 12 goes for just as we
468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,680
have many members in one body
and all the members do not have
469
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,960
the same function verse 5.
So we who are many are one body
470
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,880
in Christ, an individual member
one of another.
471
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,320
And the pastor, Joel does
something.
472
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,840
He does well, talking about all
the creation, all he goes either
473
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720
big into space or this, you
know, switching it up on us,
474
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480
going to the cells.
So I'm sitting in the service
475
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960
after we duck haunted and I get
a text from Jill and she's like,
476
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,800
how many cells are in the body?
And I was like, I don't know
477
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,280
exactly.
I'd say I I would.
478
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
She's like, don't look it up.
How many cells are in the body?
479
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760
And I was like three to seven
trillion would be my guess.
480
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840
So I feel like that's pretty.
That's a good guess.
481
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
That's pretty close.
That's a good guess, even though
482
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520
it's way off.
That's way I mean.
483
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,840
It's by a factor of 10.
Right, which depending on what
484
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,080
you're, I mean for this maybe
not that big a deal, but in most
485
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,280
things graph by a factor of 10,
that's a.
486
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,920
Big deal.
You know, probably a third or
487
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,840
fourth grader has that many
cells, so boom.
488
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Like the way you think, my
favorite was, I'm going to start
489
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,960
doing this.
Apparently Tim Bryant saw like,
490
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Pastor's notes before 'cause he,
yeah, 'cause in the you probably
491
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,520
get him, 'cause he wasn't miked
up.
492
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480
He was like 30 trillion and
Pastor's like, thanks a lot,
493
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Tim.
Like my my Yeah.
494
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,360
Well, she said she's she was
like Tim knew it exactly.
495
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,360
So I I think you think so.
I'm just guessing he might not
496
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,360
have because he.
Nailed it exactly.
497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880
Yeah, like I could, I could see,
like if someone guessed three or
498
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240
five, 7 trillion, that's a
really good guess.
499
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,200
But that makes sense that you
would not know.
500
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Exactly why?
Would she say 40 or 20?
501
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,720
I don't know, yeah.
But so maybe he didn't.
502
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Tim, I'm sorry if you knew that
'cause he might have 'cause I
503
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
remember Tim one time's been
like the heart pumps this like
504
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
he, like maybe he, he did this
for an example, maybe.
505
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640
Yeah, maybe he uses disease and
counselling or something.
506
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Yeah, some, some way.
Like in God control, you know,
507
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,960
God's overseen you every 30
trillion of a man.
508
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Yeah.
So 200 different types of cells
509
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,920
is what I got. 37 billion
bacteria in your body probably
510
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,240
I'm guessing a lot most of those
in your gut, but other places
511
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840
and I 47 different organs.
Was that right?
512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,720
That's what I thought I heard
you said.
513
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080
I did not.
We wanted to go back and see I.
514
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,960
Guess we'll never know.
Yeah, but the point is lots of
515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,440
different things going on in the
human body, lots of different
516
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,800
parts working together to make
you a complete person.
517
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,520
And so we go from this physical
body to a spiritual body, lots
518
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,600
of different parts in the
spiritual body of Christ that
519
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
have their different roles that
go together to make a complete
520
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200
spiritual person.
Yeah.
521
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,880
And it's pretty amazing because
that's the whole whole point is
522
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440
you got to work together.
Like you can be like a really
523
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
great hand, but if you're not
working in conjunction with
524
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,520
anything else, it ain't going to
ain't going to work.
525
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Well, we're with a lot of people
that have had some sort of
526
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000
stroke, some sort of deficit on
one side of their body and it's
527
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,240
like they can work.
It's coordinating everything is
528
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,240
such a challenge and that's hard
finding a body and serving where
529
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640
it's helpful because I think
it's easy to serve where
530
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,600
everyone wants to serve.
And it's like, oh, where do I,
531
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,880
how do you, I think that's a
good application?
532
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,120
Like how do you find that
balance?
533
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,480
Because to me, spiritual gifts
in one sense, you know, Pastor
534
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Joel's like leadership
teachings, my gifts.
535
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,080
And I think that's true.
You might have gifts like that,
536
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,720
but part of me too is like, man,
I think it is so context
537
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680
dependence where in one church
my gifting might be here in
538
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520
another church.
Like there's a time I was
539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,080
playing guitar with resolve.
That's not my spiritual gifting,
540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
but I can do like a terrible job
if like it needs to be done.
541
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,080
But if there's a Caleb Hawk, I
should never do it.
542
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
You know what I mean?
Like I, you know, so I think
543
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080
some of that drives are not,
well, I can play like 8 chords.
544
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Like I can do a chord.
I can't play guitar, but you
545
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,640
know, but I would do it every
now and then.
546
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760
And so that might be my gifts if
it needs to be done, but that's
547
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,120
not really my gifting.
I don't know.
548
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Yeah.
You know, I think that's good
549
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480
that there are ways that you
might be called to serve when
550
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,480
someone of a greater ability
isn't there 'cause it's a
551
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,800
smaller venue or something.
And then then in a larger venue
552
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,400
or when someone comes along, you
go, oh, we'll give that up.
553
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Similar like there was a Were
you ever there while I was
554
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920
playing key bass?
Oh, I don't know if I don't
555
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,760
know.
That's pretty cool key bass.
556
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Yeah, so did you.
Have like one of those piano.
557
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Guitars.
No, no, no.
558
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,360
Saying no.
It was just a electric piano,
559
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,160
and it was like Tim's piano
actually just.
560
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,360
Wait, let me pretend like you
were having one of these like,
561
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:13,960
guitar pianos.
You know what I'm talking about.
562
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,000
I know it's drama, but like
Tim's piano and then kind of
563
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720
where the bass guitarist sits
today, like in between them and
564
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320
the drums, like right, like
right in the line was this
565
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,440
electric piano And I was playing
the bass notes because we, there
566
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,360
was no, there was no one there
to play the bass notes and you
567
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,240
need the, the bass sound.
And then I was doing that maybe
568
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,880
for a year.
And then Richard Hartnett
569
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,920
started coming to our church.
And then like I, I play bass
570
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
guitar like boom, let's, let's
have you, let's have you in
571
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,520
there.
Yeah, that, that that's pretty
572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,400
cool.
That's a great example.
573
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Yeah.
Fill in the gap, someone's
574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160
coming in and he's been playing
the bass ever since.
575
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Yeah, well, well, now Wayne's
playing the bass.
576
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,960
Yeah, gotcha.
Cause Richard's on guitar.
577
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Richard's on acoustic guitar,
yeah, So yeah.
578
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Man, there's a lot going on over
there.
579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,600
I don't have the best vantage
point.
580
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480
I never know.
Never know how you guys cram so
581
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400
many people in a corner, but it
gets done.
582
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,280
It is all.
Right.
583
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,360
So in in all your ways, you know
you should use your gifts and I
584
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:16,760
really appreciate this.
Joel uses this picture of some
585
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520
dessert falling.
It's in it's in the notes here,
586
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920
but basically someone drops some
dessert on the floor and it's
587
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
all the different reactions.
Yeah, this is good that we'd
588
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,280
you'd have and I can, I can
identify clearly with one of the
589
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
ones and then which one do you
identify?
590
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,400
With that's a great question.
See again, I think it's context
591
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
dependence.
If it's my wife versus a visitor
592
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000
versus someone I'm building
into, I don't know, I feel like
593
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640
I feel like I have different
reactions based on who it is and
594
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720
maybe behind the.
Scenes.
595
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,240
No problem, J Well, depends on
what he he did, but I I might
596
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,560
lean into like, oh, this is
maybe why you did it wrong.
597
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,240
I don't know, let's kind of go
and like let's like revisit it.
598
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Was it like unweighted?
Because it was too heavy like.
599
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Maybe something like that.
I don't know if he was really
600
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,880
sad.
I might be merciful if I was
601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,120
like, he was devastated, you
know?
602
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Because you can see all of them.
Yeah, all of them are, are
603
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
appropriate.
So yeah, basically there's these
604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640
seven people around and one
person says, let me help you
605
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
clean that up.
And if that's your initial
606
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
reaction to someone spilling
some dessert on the floor, then
607
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320
you might have the gift of
service because the motivation
608
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
is to fulfill that physical
need.
609
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,560
That's right there.
Me, my initial reaction would be
610
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
the tray fell because it was too
heavy on one side.
611
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Then you might have to get to
teaching.
612
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Your motivation is to discover
why something happened.
613
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200
You know, kind of figure out the
mechanics behind it and help it
614
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760
prevent it if someone said
that's what happens when you're
615
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840
not careful.
That is a true prophet.
616
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Yeah.
You know that's.
617
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,720
What happens when you're not
careful?
618
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,400
We all know that guy.
Yeah, yeah.
619
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,680
The motivation is to correct the
life, you know, correct
620
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840
someone's actions, prophecy.
Someone might say, next time
621
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
maybe we should just serve
dessert with the mill.
622
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
I don't really that as a
teacher, that makes no sense.
623
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Are you helping anyone?
Yeah.
624
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Yeah, but they're trying to, you
know, help correct the future,
625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,840
like look towards the future.
And that's would be the gift of
626
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
exhortation.
That's OK.
627
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
I'll just buy a new dessert.
That's nice.
628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Yeah, that is very giving, very
generous.
629
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Yeah, give to giving to give
some type of tangible need.
630
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Here's where Jill would be.
Oh, don't feel bad.
631
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Accidents happen sometimes.
We all.
632
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840
It all happens to everyone.
Yeah, where?
633
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Where's the one?
That's like just busting out the
634
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,920
laughter.
You did it again.
635
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,680
You've done it three, you know.
Yeah, that's funny.
636
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Not a spiritual gift.
That's, you know, just openly
637
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,120
mocking.
Yeah, yeah.
638
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520
So that was a gift of mercy and
the last one, gift of
639
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
leadership, of administration.
OK, Jim, grab the mop.
640
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Sue, start picking up the
pieces.
641
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Mary, let's figure out how to
make some more dessert.
642
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
I love it.
It's like I, I, I like the way
643
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000
they're problem solving.
I love how it's like an, it's
644
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160
like, you know, we're getting on
everything.
645
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520
But I think that was a very
helpful illustration just to
646
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840
show how they all do work in
different ways to solve the
647
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,520
problem.
Right.
648
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
And then so Pastor goes from
this to kind of another
649
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
illustration going back to those
puzzle pieces, having people
650
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,520
pull it out, talks about doing
puzzles over Christmas.
651
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Now I have picture evidence of
this that we'll put up in a
652
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,960
moment, but Pastor talks about
doing some puzzles with his
653
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
grandchildren.
Were they in Atlanta?
654
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Is that what he said?
Maybe.
655
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,240
I don't know.
Yeah.
656
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Yeah, somewhere.
Yeah.
657
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
And I guess maybe they got some
puzzle pieces from a thrift
658
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920
store or something.
That's a.
659
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000
That's a huge mistake.
A huge mistake.
660
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
I take puzzles to thrift stores
just because they're missing
661
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,880
pieces.
So I'm just kidding.
662
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,120
I took it to where pastors about
the shots.
663
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Yeah, so they put these puzzles
together and like, missing 13
664
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,800
pieces.
OK.
665
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320
So I don't know, maybe it was
you.
666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,320
OK.
Someone.
667
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Yeah, it's probably is.
Me.
668
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Maybe it was Nate, Nate and
Jess, we don't know.
669
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,880
But before we left for
Christmas, the kids clubs had a
670
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
gift exchange, OK?
And you're supposed to bring age
671
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,720
appropriate gifts.
OK, someone gifted Phoebe 1000
672
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,840
piece.
Puzzle it.
673
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Wasn't me but I wish it was that
next year I'm going bigger and.
674
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120
She she was all excited about
it.
675
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640
And of course, you know what
happened?
676
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Like so we start doing this at
Juju and Potaddies and it's like
677
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800
me and Lydia putting in the long
haul of it and like Phoebe
678
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,640
coming along and she's like,
could I get 1000 monies because
679
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560
of this is 1000 piece puzzle?
What is 1000 monies?
680
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
And I was like maybe 1000
pennies or something like that.
681
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
So we put it together
painstakingly.
682
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Wow, what was it?
It was Charlie Brown Christmas.
683
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080
It was nice.
I'll put a picture of it right
684
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,680
here because we opened that new
and it was missing a piece, but
685
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,920
we had an extra it was like a
duplicate edge piece which would
686
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
throw it totally threw us off
because like we.
687
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Where's this?
Where's this?
688
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Edge piece goes.
So we had one extra piece and we
689
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
could like you could take one
out and put the other one in,
690
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880
one out, put the other one in.
And then we were missing a piece
691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
over here.
And that's, that was very
692
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
frustrating.
Man, this, this is my move my
693
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360
family loves doing.
My grandmother especially.
694
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Like, puzzles are always out.
Like during holidays, my move is
695
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
to come through, take a couple.
Yep, snap a piece.
696
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,680
And then everyone's like,
where's the last piece?
697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920
And now they know it's me.
And so they're, like trying to
698
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
see when I stealed it.
So, you know, I've got to keep
699
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,400
people honest, you know?
Yeah.
700
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Yeah, the point of all the
puzzle talk was that there are
701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920
no missing pieces.
When God hands out these puzzle
702
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880
pieces, God knows how to take
the different pieces in your
703
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560
local area.
If you're using your gift for
704
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,600
God's glory for others, good,
you're going to be transformed
705
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200
by that.
And He is going to make a puzzle
706
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960
picture out of that that honors
him and is good for the church.
707
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,400
So good, so good.
We're at verse verses 6 through
708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080
8.
Since we have gifts that differ
709
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,200
according to the grace given to
us, each of us is to exercise
710
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,000
them accordingly.
This is the part Michael was
711
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
talking about, a prophecy
according to the proportion of
712
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,400
his faith of service and his
serving.
713
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
He who teaches in his teaching,
or he who exhorts in his
714
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,199
exhortation, He who gives with
liberality, He who leads with
715
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,199
diligence, He who shows mercy
with cheerfulness.
716
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,639
Now it's good and, and Joel
asked this question, you know,
717
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,120
why does Paul list these 7
gifts?
718
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Is there something special about
them?
719
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
And when we went through, maybe
we should link it.
720
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,080
But we did do a spiritual Part 1
and Part 2, kind of like around
721
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
the late spring and then one in
summer.
722
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,840
They're out there.
But if you take Paul's or the
723
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,679
Bible's treatment of spiritual
gifts chronologically,
724
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,120
Corinthians is first.
It's very early and you have all
725
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,840
these gifts they list.
And then I think it's Ephesians
726
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,040
next.
Or is it Romans next?
727
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,840
And then Ephesians, one of those
is next.
728
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,880
And then you get down to Peter
where he basically says speaking
729
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,159
and serving.
Yeah, I like it.
730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,560
So I think sometimes we can go
off the rails if we start
731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
listing everything as a
spiritual gift.
732
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
I think if it doesn't fit into
speaking or serving in those two
733
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520
broad categories, and then it's
probably not a spiritual gift.
734
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I think you're
735
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
probably right.
And I struggle with this too,
736
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,720
where it's like we price it as
another podcast.
737
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,720
It's like, it's why I never come
to a church work day.
738
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,760
I don't do serving.
It's not my gift.
739
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,240
You know what I mean?
It's like, I can't serve.
740
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
I wish God would have gifted me
but I can't pick up chairs.
741
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,400
So we had I'll, I'll, I'll.
So spiritual gifts in action,
742
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,800
you know?
Yeah, so, so I showed up at our
743
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
little elders thing at the
Hughes where, you know, they had
744
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,440
us over for dinner and we played
some games and I was a little
745
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
bit early.
I was coming from podcasting
746
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
that night from your house.
I just went straight there.
747
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080
So I beat Jill there and I was
kind of the first one there.
748
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,160
So I'm walking up and as I'm
walking up kind of halfway
749
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,360
through the door, like Sarah and
Danny are opening the door for
750
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,120
me and I see Joel and Diana come
up and I'm like, oh, so kind of
751
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,000
torn.
So I'm like, well, I will go
752
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,120
spend time with the host.
Like I don't want to turn my
753
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520
back on the host and stuff.
But then Diana and Joel walk in
754
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,640
and not carrying a whole bunch
of stuff.
755
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,360
I was like, I should have
thought that you might need help
756
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,080
to bring stuff in and someone
who has a gift to service
757
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
probably would have picked the
other way.
758
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040
You know, I'm, you know, trying
to, trying to figure out, you
759
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
know, you know, 'cause sometimes
you just don't think about
760
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,480
honestly physical things.
Instead of spiritual gifts,
761
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480
inventory spiritual gifts.
Quick reaction.
762
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Like put them in situations you
gotta pick.
763
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,720
What are you gonna do?
Oh, you served OK.
764
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,920
That you know.
Oh, mercy.
765
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,880
You know, that's great.
Let's go.
766
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Spill something in front of
them.
767
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
See what you do 'cause how do
you discover your spiritual
768
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,720
gifts?
Prayer practice, regular
769
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,440
interest.
I didn't mean to skip over the
770
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
list of seven if we wanna, you
know, flesh those out.
771
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040
More No, I think it's fine.
Prophecy, faith, service,
772
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960
serving, teaching, teaching,
exhortation, exhortation,
773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,000
giving, liberality, leading with
diligence, mercy, cheerfulness.
774
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
So for, for some of them, just
do your gift.
775
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,400
If you're a teacher, teach.
That's right.
776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Yeah, that's right.
If you're if you're gift of
777
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640
serving, serve.
Yeah, if you give like give a
778
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,400
lot, like, like don't give a
little bit.
779
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Yeah, it kind of makes sense,
right?
780
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,120
Yeah, that's good.
Well, pray about your spiritual
781
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,440
gift, practice them, jump into
it and maybe see where your
782
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,520
interests dovetail.
Cause most of us might say, hey,
783
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
why doesn't this church do this
or why don't they do that?
784
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,160
It's like maybe This is why so
you can fill this role.
785
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Yeah, no, it's very good.
Joel kind of ends with this
786
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680
illustration of Snowman the
horse.
787
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
There is a movie about this
horse that you can go see.
788
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
I don't remember the name of it,
but we watched it and it was
789
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,560
really good.
And it details this horse that
790
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,560
was up for auction and this guy
was actually late to the
791
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,920
auction.
Like this.
792
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
The horse, something happened, I
don't remember.
793
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,280
Let's just pretend like his
truck breaks down or something
794
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040
or and they had to get it fixed.
So he gets there late and it's
795
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
like there's two horses left.
He bids on this one and the guy
796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,280
he's bidding against is from the
glue factory and he outbids this
797
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,720
guy and everyone's like why did
you get that horse, blah, blah
798
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,760
blah blah.
Feeds them, does well them, has
799
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
a really good relationship with
the horse, but the horse doesn't
800
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
really do anything.
So he sells them to a neighbor
801
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,400
who wanted him and the horse
really liked that owner.
802
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,160
And so that the horse kept
coming back to the original
803
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120
owner and they figured out he is
jumping these very high fences
804
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,680
to get back to this original
owner.
805
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
So they like, oh, let's see what
this guy can do.
806
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,240
And it turns out this horse is
an amazing jumper, wins show
807
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Horse of the Year twice in a row
for his jumping abilities.
808
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,760
And so the the point to this
story is when you look at your
809
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,480
fellow church members, do you
see the horse jumper or do you
810
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,680
see the guy that's like, he's
just ready for the glue, you
811
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,280
know?
Yeah.
812
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,720
That's crazy.
That's what what a difference in
813
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,280
in outcomes Like, wow, a
champion, Yeah.
814
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Go watch the movie, it's good,
you'll cry.
815
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,600
We don't.
We don't.
816
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Yeah.
We don't know what it's called,
817
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
but go watch it.
Go.
818
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280
Go find it.
Moving to application.
819
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,720
Do you know your spiritual
gifts?
820
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880
If you don't do those things,
pray, try different things,
821
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,760
maybe talk to leadership.
And if you, you know, do think
822
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
about these things, write it
down, put in your Bible, pray
823
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,920
over.
We had the puzzle piece
824
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,800
specifically.
Pastor Joel gave out such a
825
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
weird kind of task to think
about in our congregation.
826
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,240
Yeah, and if you were to leave
your current church, would they
827
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,880
miss you?
Yeah, that's that's.
828
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Yeah.
Are you doing something?
829
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Are you kind of fulfilling a
role there?
830
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,480
And if not, why not, you know,
see how you can get plugged in.
831
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,720
And you know, sometimes how you
think you might get plugged in
832
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,040
may not work in that local
place, but I assure you there is
833
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,880
a place for you to get plugged
in.
834
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600
And then lastly, do you
encourage others here in the use
835
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,680
of their gifts?
So at your church, are you?
836
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,920
And if you're not an elder, I
mean, I'm not saying you can't,
837
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
but like, I feel like, you know,
there are some people who have
838
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680
this gift of encouragement and
that's probably not going to be
839
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
everyone if you're, but maybe
how you can encourage folks.
840
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
I think that's great.
Add it to the, you know,
841
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,640
spiritual gifts podcast.
We we, we've done and I don't I
842
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,160
got nothing else.
Anything else you want to add?
843
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Yeah, I'll just say this is.
It's this one.
844
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:26,040
Yeah, this is our 100th full
length episode.
845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah, so plus our bonus episodes
that we've done and the.
846
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,280
Shorts of where?
You're breaking an earring into
847
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Yeah.
So I'll just say, you know, if
848
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,320
you've enjoyed this podcast, I
think it helps.
849
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,440
I think we saw like initial bump
from friends and family who
850
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
watched and then, you know, it's
not everyone's cup of tea, just
851
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,640
like it may not be your
spiritual gift.
852
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320
So we saw, you know, some
number, but now I think we we
853
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,520
can kind of continually steadily
grow like from folks we don't
854
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,440
know.
So that's great.
855
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,800
That's really cool.
Yeah.
856
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,000
So share the podcast.
I love it.
857
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,720
That would be a great way to
celebrate the 100th episode.
858
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Share, share the podcast.
And this is Do we know what
859
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,280
episode of romances or?
I should look it up.
860
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,960
It's probably in the hot mid to
high 30s thirties.
861
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,600
I'd say like probably 343536
somewhere in that area, but I'd
862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,760
I'd have to go I I need to go
back and count them.
863
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,680
So awesome.
Well.
864
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Happy 100th episode.
Yeah, that's our take.
865
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
866
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800
Find us wherever you find
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867
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,200
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