Narrative Juxtaposition: How the Bible Speaks Through Story Placement | Part 2

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All right, let's say it.
Let's pick a word on the count

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of 3123 juxtaposition.
Oh, what'd you say?

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Gobstones.
I don't know.

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I I just wanted to say a really
random word, 'cause we're in our

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juxtaposition series Episode 2.
I I don't know if you're like me

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starting a new series just like
it's the best.

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I I like fade as a series is
going, but like the first one or

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two, I'm like so pumped for like
framing the discussion big

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picture.
It's like, wow, I get excited

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and then.
You're ready to stop with

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Joshua?
Yeah, after they conquered the

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land, Right.
Like we don't need the last

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three episodes or whatever it
was.

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Yeah.
The the new series is good.

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Last week we talked about
Matthew, this Jewish gospel, and

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how the Gentile inclusions just
really stand out.

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We're staying with the
Synoptics, and I hope you're

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hungry, Michael.
'Cause I am.

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We're talking Mark sandwiches
sounds.

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Good.
How interruptions interpret.

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We'll we'll define some of these
things, but big picture, Mark

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keeps interrupting himself.
We're going to tell you why.

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I I've got a very good idea.
Michael's very exciting.

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He was like, Oh yeah, this.
Is this is great?

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So we'll we'll look at Mark and
and some of these different

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examples of a story starting and
then getting interrupted and

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then finished.
And if it's this idea of

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juxtaposition, like why is this
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Is this on accident and Mark
loses train of thought?

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Are we just writing things like
randomly?

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Holy Spirit interruptions.
There we go, Holy Spirit

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Interruptions.
Let's talk.

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Mark sandwiches.
Let's take it to the next level.

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Let's fire up that twanga music.
From the hearts of the Low

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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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We see Mark interrupting him.
So I don't know if you've like

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read through Mark.
Obviously you've got good reason

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for thinking this, but it's
like, why did he stop this

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story?
And then, and most noticeably, I

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think sometimes this happens
like in the Holy Week leading up

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to Easter, we see like the fig
tree and it's like he starts a

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story, but he finishes it later.
Why not just like, say the whole

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story all together?
Maybe there's trying to he's

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trying to make a point.
Maybe he's trying to make a

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point.
Yeah.

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And maybe, like if you're
reading someone else's story,

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yeah, you're like, oh, there's a
bigger point here.

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And you would interrupt that
story?

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Yes.
Get that bigger point, yeah, and

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then go back to reading the rest
of the story.

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Yeah, it might help you
understand it better 'cause you

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could just read through it and
you might say, man, this feels

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rushed, feels chaotic.
It feels like where's the editor

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on this thing?
But check this out.

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What if the interruption is the
interpretation?

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Like what if that helps you
understand the story more.

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What what we're kind of putting
forth in this episode is that

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Mark preaches theology by
inserting stories inside of

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other stories that the middle
helps gives clarity, helps give

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clarity to the outside stories.
So it's kind.

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It's not exactly a chiasm, but
it's kind of chiastic.

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And yeah.
Kind of, yeah, 'cause you got

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like the beginning and and the
middle and just like, you know,

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just like we're all thinking
it's an intercalation.

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Oh yeah, that's I was when you
were explaining this, I was

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like, man, he's talking about
intercalations again.

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And if that's if, if
intercalation's not resonating

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with you, just think a markin
sandwich, which I like it.

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I like that it's markin like
markin priority or you know what

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I mean?
I like that markin.

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Yeah, we need something that
'cause we know markin priority

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got to kick that to the curb,
but you don't want to get rid of

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the word markin.
So markin sandwiches.

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Nail it when you say chiasm,
because the structure is like

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that ABA structure where the
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that that middle point is that
interruption that stands out,

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that helps us interpret
everything and that the the

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meaning emerges from how A&B,
how they're different, but how

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they connect.
Like, what do you take from that

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middle B to help us interpret
that the A conversation and

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Mark?
Mark kind of stands out.

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Maybe we could talk about, you
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things that make Mark unique.
How does it stand out among the

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other gospels?
Well, you know, I from my

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interpretive framework, I, I, I
just have to give from that I'm.

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Not trying to joke around, but
I.

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'Cause you should go back and
watch our meth methane and mark

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in priority.
Famously I'm methane priority.

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And but maybe you maybe this
won't make a difference in what

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what you think comes first.
But you know, I think we Peter

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is kind of the apostle behind
the Gospel of Mark, right?

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You agree with that, right.
And so then if Peter, well, and

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I happen to think that Peter has
the Gospel of Matthew and the

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Gospel of Luke and he's
switching back and forth of them

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and given Peter's nature, he's
reading this, he's like, let me

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give you a story to illustrate
this point.

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Let me help interpret this
story.

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So he interrupts the story,
Peter while he's teaching the

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the Praetorian Guard and he
gives the story gives some

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details and he goes back to it.
And and when you think of Mark,

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you do think of like there's a
lot of agreement between Matthew

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and Luke, But then there's like
these highlight color things

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that the others don't have there
that I think is Peter

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interjecting in on that story
and saying, all right, let me

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give you some, even some more
first hand stuff.

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That's, and it's known for that
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Fast pace, it's like, yeah,
it's, it's sure.

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It's fast-paced.
We always see like immediately,

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like things are moving on and
on.

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It's from and from one
perspective, the least

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explanatory, you know, maybe
outside of these little asides,

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like it just kind of gets the
main points.

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A lot of times Mark is showing
rather than telling.

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And so because of that, some of
this narrative placement does

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some of that theological work
where sometimes he doesn't over

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explain something, but he
arranges things.

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That's kind of like maybe we're
pushing that a lot, but that's

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what we're leaning into in this
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And so from, you know what you
were saying that might not have

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any bearing on at least the
priority, right?

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Is kind of like, like, right?
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You could you could well, I
guess he couldn't be reading

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from Matthew right that part and
doing this.

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But maybe let let's say you are
a marking priority and you'd

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think that there's like this
oral tradition that's being

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handled down handed down.
Maybe you could say Peter's

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reciting that and then and even
if.

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He wasn't like Peter was around
for like Matthew or you know

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what I'm saying?
Like you know what I mean?

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So that wouldn't be like
totally, you know, I, I don't

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know, the shortest, I always
fall, I always fall back.

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Like, but I, I guess it does
make sense to you're going to

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want to give like the Cliff
notes versus like you want to

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build on to something.
Might not be as I'm always

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thinking like, oh, I want to add
to something rather than take

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away.
But let's look at these

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examples.
Let's look, it might be too much

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to read some of these, but Mark
5 verses 21 through 43, we have

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this, a couple of stories here.
How, how, how do we want to

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tackle this, Michael, 'cause I
don't know if it's, it's too

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much text.
It's kind of a lot of text.

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It's right on that tipping
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I know, man, it would be, but I
can I if we want to, I can kind

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of give it a speedy read, but
let's.

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Give a speedy read.
All right, we can do that.

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All right, So this is 521
through 43.

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When Jesus had crossed over in
the boat to the other side, a

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large crowd gathered around him.
And so he stayed by the seashore

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on one of the one of the
synagogue officials named Jarius

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came up and on seeing him, fell
at his feet and implored him

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earnestly, saying, My little
daughter is at the point of

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death, please come and lay your
hands on her so that she will

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get well and live.
And he went off with him, and a

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large cloud crowd was following
him and pressing in on Him.

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A woman who had had a hemorrhage
for 12 years, and had endured

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much at the hands of many
physicians, and had spent all

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that she had, and was not helped
at all, but rather had grown

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worse after hearing about Jesus,
she came up in the crowd behind

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him and touched his cloak.
For she thought, If I touch his

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garments, I will be get well.
Immediately the flow of blood

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was dried up, and she felt in
her body that she was healed of

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her affliction.
Immediately Jesus, perceiving in

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himself that the power
proceeding from him had gone

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forth, turned around in the
crowd and said, Who touched my

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garments?
And the disciple said to him,

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You see the crowd pressing in on
you, and you say, Who touched

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me?
And he looked around to see the

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woman who had done this.
But the woman, fearing and

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trembling, aware of what had
happened to her, came and fell

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down before him and told him the
whole truth.

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And he said to her, Daughter,
Your faith has made you well.

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Go in peace and be healed in
your affliction.

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While he was still speaking,
they came from the House of the

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synagogue official saying, Your
daughter has died, why trouble a

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teacher anymore?
But Jesus overheard what was

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being said, said to the
synagogue official, do not be

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afraid any longer, only believe.
And he allowed no one to

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accompany him except Peter and
James and John, the brother of

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James.
They came to the House of the

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synagogue official and he saw a
commotion and people loudly

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weeping and wailing and entering
in.

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He said to them, why make a
commotion and weep?

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The child has not died, but is
asleep.

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They began laughing at him, but
putting them all out, he took

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along, took along the child's
father and the mother and his

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own companions and entered the
room where the child was.

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Taking the child by the hand, he
said to her, Talith Akum, which

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translated means little girl.
I say to you, get up, that's a

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lot.
That's a big translation there.

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Immediately the girl got up and
began to walk, for she was 12

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years old.
And immediately they were

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completely astounded.
And he gave them strict orders

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that no one should know about
this.

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And he said that something
should be giving to her to eat.

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Yeah, and I'm glad we read it
all.

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I think.
I think I think that is helpful.

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We see the story a that's like.
Boom.

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The beginning.
Yeah, boom.

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And it's like no transition.
It's.

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Just in there.
Just starts a new story.

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Very, very crazy.
We see this first story of

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Jarius, that that book ends.
And in the middle we've got this

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bleeding woman.
We look at Jarius, the synagogue

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leader, very respective,
respected.

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He's given a name.
Yeah.

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We, we know a lot about him.
His daughter is 12 years old.

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Daughter not doing well.
Daughter is dying.

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We read this and and Jarius is
earnestly saying my daughter's

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at the point of death.
There's urgency.

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Immediate action is needed like
she needs to be saved right this

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seconds.
So you would assume like, OK,

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let's do this.
This is like we're on pins and

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needles.
Tell us how this plays out.

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And then it's like, Nope, we're
we're like in the same story,

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but we have this bleeding woman,
very strange.

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It says she's been suffering for
12 years, that Jerry's daughter

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is 12 years old.
You can see this obvious

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connection.
This woman's not named.

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It's kind of the opposite.
Jerry's is named and respected

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just like a no name person,
socially unclean financially,

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doesn't have a lot of money
spent on, you know, physicians.

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This kind of thing been
suffering kind of the opposite.

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I didn't even catch the 12
years.

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I never.
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Either until you said, I'm
sitting here thinking for the

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last 10 seconds like how did I
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12 years, 12 years, it's.
Like in your face, but you can

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just like I'm the same way.
It's like you can just go over

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and so you see you've got this
powerful Gigerius, powerless

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lady, a very public versus
invisible woman who's just in

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the lost in the crowd, this, you
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And what Jesus does, he stops,
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It's like he's like on a
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Yeah, and the disciples almost
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I tried to like, it was like
you, you see all the people

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around you, you're constantly
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going to say who touched you?
Yeah, what do we even, what are

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we doing here?
The critical moment, Jesus

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basically says, you know, don't
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And and you, you step back and
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obviously applies in all
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Powerful, powerless, named
person, you know, one of many

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clean, unclean, all these
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But it's not limited by time
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What do you want?
Things will work out when Jesus

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is Lord over things like death,
over things like impurity, that

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faith is really at the center.
This woman has faith, Jerry

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says.
Faith.

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That's like very evident when
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Right, Yeah, yeah, when, when
the interpretive framework was

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there, 'cause I don't know I've
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interpretive framework in mind.
I was like, OK, He ends

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basically saying, you know, your
faith healed.

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You go, and then boom, you see
the scene where people don't

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have faith.
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And he turns to Jairus and he
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faith, she'll be fine, right?
Does he say something like?

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That something like that, like
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I don't know exactly, but you
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Do not be afraid any longer,
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Believe oh, that that is good.
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the stage.
We've got maybe a couple more

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examples here.
Let's look at Mark Chapter 11

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and we will look at verses 12
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Same thing.
I can speed read this and we'll

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we'll get we'll get this on the
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So the story a is Jesus curses
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It goes on the following day
when they came from Bethany,

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Jesus was hungry and seeing in
the distance a fig tree in a

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leaf.
He wanted to see if he could

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find if he could find anything
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When he came to it, he found
nothing but leaves, for it was

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not the season for figs.
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ever eat fruit from you again.
And his disciples heard it all

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right.
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And they came to Jerusalem and
he entered the temple and began

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to drive out those who sold and
those who bought in the temple.

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And he overturned the tables of
the money changers in the seats

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of those who sold pigeons.
He would not allow anyone to

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carry anything through the
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And he was teaching them, and
saying to them, Is it not

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written?
My house shall be called a House

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of prayer for all nations, But
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And the chief priest and the
scribes heard it, and were

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seeking a way to destroy him,
for they feared him, because all

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the crowd was astonished at his
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And when evening came, they went
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Story A.
As they passed by in the

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morning, they saw the fig tree
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And Peter remembered and said to
him, Rabbi, look, the fig tree

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that you cursed has withered.
And Jesus answered them Half

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faith in God.
Truly, I say to you, whoever

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says to this mountain be taken
up and thrown into the sea, and

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is not doubt in his heart, but
believes that what he says will

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come to pass, it will be done
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Therefore, I tell you, whatever
you ask in prayer, believe that

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you have received it and it'll
be yours.

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And whenever you stand praying,
forgive, if you have anything

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against anyone, so that your
Father also who is in heaven may

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forgive you your trespasses.
All right, we got these two

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stories.
Like what are we doing, Mark?

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Why are we why are we making
these so different to story a

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the fig tree curse we got this
tree looks totally healthy.

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There's no fruits.
Jesus is looking looking for

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fruit and so he curses it.
It also seems weird like on it's

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on the surface, like it's not
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Why are we getting upset?
It seems petty.

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It does kind of feel out of
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Yeah, yeah.
But no fruit.

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But no fruits.
No fruit.

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But it's not supposed to.
But it's not this.

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Yeah.
So and then we get.

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So we get to temple cleansing,
religious activity is going on

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everywhere.
Clearly there's economic

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exploitation.
Prayer is contrasted with den of

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like prophet, den of robbers.
There's this is not great.

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And if you were to, you know,
look at some key Old Testament

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text, Isaiah 56 talks about, you
know, being a House of prayer

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for all nations.
Jeremiah 7 talks about den of

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robbers.
So he's kind of like bringing in

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this Old Testament imagery what
the prophets had talked about.

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And then we get to the
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being withered.
The disciples noticed that the

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tree is dead from the roots up,
and so we would be wise to

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connect this tree with what's
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How have I never connected it
before it's?

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Weird, right?
Did.

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Did did you study that?
Was this part of your graduate

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work?
This was this was not the the

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one that started it all was
going through.

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We were going through the Joshua
series and I got thinking about

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Josh Joseph and Judah, like how
it got through this and looking

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back and the commentators would
bring me back like, oh, and I

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was like, oh, and those two were
right there and I was like, I

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wanna And then when I when I was
doing like the grace relations,

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like on ethnicity class it I
did.

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It was pointing out me in a
book, the Matthew thing, like

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how that was.
That's such a big deal.

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So you went out and sought for.
And then I sought for other ones

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like where does it?
Where does it do this?

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And and then I came across this
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Yeah, that is.
Crazy those two places got to be

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other places, yeah.
Right there, like hidden in

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plain sight.
I think Peter's saying this fig

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tree like those that temple no
fruit.

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No fruit, it like looks good,
the temple looks beautiful,

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everything's where it should be,
a lot of activity.

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But that judgments explained
symbolically that fruitlessness

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man leads to judgment even for
those in God's house, right?

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Crazy could be more clear.
That is, it's like, wow.

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It's just like crazy.
Yeah, yeah, that's.

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Oh man, that's great.
That's good stuff.

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Mark 6, get your speed read on
because I think it is helpful

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that if we're able to read
through these, this is verse 7

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through verse 30.
All right, we get turned to the

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right page, verse 7 through 30,
and it says and he's and he's.

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Let me just make sure it's six.
Yeah, and he summoned the 12 and

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began to send them out in pairs
and gave them authority over the

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unclean spirits.
And he instructed them that they

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should take nothing for the
journey except the mere staff,

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no bread, no bag, no money in
their belt but to wear sandals.

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And he added, do not put on 2
tunics.

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And he said to them, whenever
you enter a house, stay there

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until you leave town, any place
that does not receive you or

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listen to you.
As you go out from there, shake

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the dust off the soles of your
feet for a testimony against

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them.
They went out and preached that

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the men should repent.
And they were casting out many

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demons and were anointing with
oil many sick people and healing

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them.
And King Herod heard of it.

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So this would be story B.
OK, great.

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Yes.
And King Herod heard of it, for

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his name had become well known,
and the people were saying John

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the Baptist has risen from the
dead, and that is why these

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miracle miraculous powers are at
work in him.

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But others were saying he's
Elijah, and others were saying

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he is a prophet like one of the
prophets of old.

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But when Harriet heard of it, he
kept saying, John whom I

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beheaded has risen.
For Herod himself had sent and

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had John arrested and bound in
prison on account of Herodias,

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the wife of his brother Phillip,
because he had married her.

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For John had been saying to
Herod, It is not lawful for you

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to have your brother's wife.
Rodius had a grudge against him

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and wanted to put him to death,
and could not do so.

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For Herod was afraid of John,
knowing that he was a righteous

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and holy man.
He kept him safe, and when he

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heard him, then when he heard
him, he was very perplexed.

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But but, but he used to enjoy
listening to him.

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A strategic day came when Herod
on his birthday came up, gave a

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banquet for his Lords and
military commanders and the

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leading men of Galilee.
And when the daughter of

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Herodias came in and danced, she
pleased Herod and his dinner

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guest.
And the king said to the girl,

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Ask me for whatever you want,
and I will give it to you.

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And he swore to her, whatever
you ask, I will give you up to

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half my Kingdom.
And she went out and said to her

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mother, What shall I ask for?
And she said, The head of John

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the Baptist.
Immediately she came in and

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hurry to the king and asked,
saying, I want you to give me at

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once the head of John the
Baptist on a platter.

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And although the king was very
sorry, yet because of his oath

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and because of the dinner
guests, he was unwilling to

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refuse her.
Immediately the king sent an

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executioner and commanded him to
bring back his head, and he went

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and had him beheaded in prison,
and brought the head on the

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platter and gave it to the girl,
and the girl gave it to her

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mother.
When his disciples heard about

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this, they came and took away
his body and laid it in a tomb.

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The apostles gathered together
with Jesus, and they reported to

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him all that they had done and
taught.

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So if you're thinking this is a
sandwich, the piece of bird on

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the other end is very short.
It's.

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Very short and the pops came
back and they they reported to

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Jesus.
So, so story A the mission of

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the 12 we see authority is given
there.

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There's power over demons.
They're preaching repentance and

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we see it and it's like pretty
exciting.

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It's it's kingdoms expanding.
There's momentum.

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They're they're, they're doing
these signs and wonders.

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It's like, man, what can stop
God?

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Nothing can stop God.
And then right immediately after

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we get all this excitement.
That's John the Baptist.

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Just it's not good, not great.
This faithful prophet speaks

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truth in the face of, you know,
politics executed unjustly.

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There's political corruption
making a public spectacle.

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Brutality is like
overemphasizing this in a

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strange way.
And so you read these two things

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together.
What are we supposed to think

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about?
You know, it's not that

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discipleship is always going to
be awesome.

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You're going to, like, cast out
damage.

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You're going to be the best
person in the world.

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It's discipleship includes
danger.

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Being faithful does not
guarantee safety.

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Proclamation can lead to
suffering.

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I think it's good to hold these
two so you don't, like, run off

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in one.
It's not all doom and gloom and,

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you know, material, at least not
all, you know, prosperity.

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But these things are attention.
Sunshine and roses, Yeah,

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sometimes it's dungeons and
beheading I.

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That's yeah, it's bad.
It it.

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Could be, could be good, could
be bad it.

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It could be bad and both of
these, you know, holding up

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together gives you that that
balance where you don't get, you

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know, A1 sided 1 sided view so
marked sandwiches that was 3

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mark in sandwiches you full.
I thought they were good.

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I especially that center one,
that was cool.

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00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,080
You know 2 good ones but you put
the best one in the middle.

450
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,920
So you were making a sandwich of
marking sandwiches.

451
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,160
Right.
Well, like a triple Decker.

452
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,040
Yeah, there you go.
And we see, you know, these

453
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,120
different theological themes
being promoted like faith, you

454
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,600
know, God's overtime.
Faith is at the central no, no

455
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,520
matter what's happening,
judgment being revealed

456
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,560
symbolically to those that don't
produce fruit.

457
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,080
And then this realistic view of
discipleship and really it, it

458
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,520
when I more, I read scripture
and go through some of this like

459
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,280
biblical theology and see the
connections.

460
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160
It's, it is, it is a literary
genius.

461
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,520
Like you can't craft stuff
better than this.

462
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,160
Yeah, that's really good it.
Is really good.

463
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,520
So, so read things, look at
their placement.

464
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,440
You know, you should think about
why, why is this here?

465
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Especially if you're like, man,
seems like everything's going

466
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,280
great for the disciples, the
terrible like you, you see these

467
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,440
things.
Just just start and think about

468
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,720
it because I think that tells
you a lot about what you are

469
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,120
reading.
It's hard to always have that

470
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,920
purview, but it's like good good
to think about big picture

471
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080
what's going on.
Sometimes, you know, I think it

472
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,400
goes both ways.
It's like, I think what we do

473
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,280
well of in our tradition is
nailing down the details.

474
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,480
We hang on to every warden we
should and we're parsing out,

475
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,680
and that's good.
But man, you can also.

476
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,880
Miss the forest for the trees.
Yes, yeah.

477
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,240
And you really can.
And I found that more so true in

478
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,800
my life missing.
It's like, man, I'm seeing this

479
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,560
big picture and like reading
this, like you were saying, it's

480
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040
like it's right there, it's
right there.

481
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,160
So it's good to, you know, it's
good to zoom in and zoom out, do

482
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,480
both those, do both those
things.

483
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,680
Yeah, it's very good.
Next, we've got a few more

484
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,160
aligned.
I don't know if we'll use all of

485
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,800
these, but you know, maybe we'll
talk a little profits down the

486
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,520
road.
Something else?

487
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,040
Anything else you got on Mark or
sandwiches?

488
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560
I mean, sandwiches are great.
Yeah, sandwich.

489
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Whoever invented the sandwich,
great job.

490
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Yeah, the Earl sandwich or
something like that.

491
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,560
OK, OK.
Yeah, yeah.

492
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,720
I don't.
I think that's what we're told,

493
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Yeah.
I don't know if that's actually

494
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,280
that's actually the thing.
Yeah, Yeah, that's great.

495
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,680
Maybe it is.
Well, if nothing else, we can

496
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,200
transition.
Yeah, let's do that.

497
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,120
To the last take.
Last take.

498
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,160
Man, yeah.
So the clue that I remember,

499
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,720
that clue that I said like if I
forget.

500
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,880
Don't disremember.
It was like it was.

501
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,800
It was something like not very
good, not very good.

502
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,120
Yeah, good.
So some of our listeners will

503
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:54,200
know, I know you know that there
are there's a group of men at

504
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,360
our church.
We we play Dean D and we just

505
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,880
had a recent session.
Wow.

506
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,280
And you know, I'm the DM, so I'm
trying to put together a

507
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,600
narrative story and I put a lot
of time into.

508
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,480
Have you ever seen these
recordings where people like

509
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,720
sing against themselves?
Like they put like they, they do

510
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000
all four parts or.
Something easy, yeah.

511
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,280
And man, like not not that easy
to do.

512
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320
And I was, I put a lot of time
in.

513
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,040
So I took the song from The
Hobbit and I, you know, put

514
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,040
different words to it.
So I was thinking a long time

515
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,240
about that.
And then I was like having to

516
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,800
like put it into my song thing.
So 'cause you have to like be

517
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600
able to hear it so that you're
you're with it.

518
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,000
So you have.
To it doesn't work if you're

519
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,040
off.
Right, right.

520
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800
You have to hear it and sing it
and which is a really weird

521
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,160
thing.
And this song was a little bit

522
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,160
weird and I put it together and
not good.

523
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,640
Oh yeah, yeah.
Not.

524
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,000
Good.
I was like, I don't think I'm

525
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
ever going to let anyone hear
this.

526
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,320
I may try it again.
Like because I was, I was

527
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520
telling Jonathan, like I got
some excuses like my throat, you

528
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000
know, I was coming off of a
little bit of a sickness.

529
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,000
And so, and I think maybe I can
do my setup a little bit better.

530
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,880
But man, I listened back to it.
I was like, I was just laughing.

531
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,200
I was like this.
Is that's so funny.

532
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Yeah, that's not good.
How challenging that is.

533
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,640
Yeah, man.
You want to play it, give us so

534
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,000
did you You did not.
You did not.

535
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,040
You did you play that.
I did not play it for them.

536
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

537
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,600
And they're like, will we ever
hear it?

538
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,760
I'm like, not in the serious
thing.

539
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,880
Maybe we just want to laugh.
Oh.

540
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,840
That's good, man.
Yeah, this thing, it's funny,

541
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,800
you look at like some of these
videos stuff and you're like, I

542
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320
mean, obviously it's hard work
and perfection, all these

543
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,360
things, but it just seems like
it's just effortlessly put

544
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,440
together, you know?
Yeah, And I wonder what their

545
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,520
setup is because I see some
people like I was recording into

546
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,440
my phone and listening from the
computer because the computer

547
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,920
would scroll the music for me.
Oh, yeah.

548
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,360
And this mic was is here and not
at my house.

549
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:53,720
It's like if I had this mic,
maybe I would sing into this mic

550
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,640
and then listen from my phone.
But yeah, you have to hear the

551
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,120
music so that you can do you can
have the the rhythm, you know,

552
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,600
and the tempo and stuff be the
exact same every time.

553
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,000
So you're singing to a track,
but you're only but only, only

554
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480
that's getting recorded.
So it was it was a good

555
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760
experience.
Gave me a better appreciation

556
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,800
for those people online.
Like, OK, you'd figure this out

557
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:20,920
even singing in tune like you
would think, but like it's with

558
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,360
that noise right in my ear.
Yeah.

559
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:27,000
Like sometimes I'd, I'd be like,
why did I, why did I go flat or

560
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,440
sharp on that, that note I
shouldn't have.

561
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000
It was it was, it was humbling.
I'll say that.

562
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,800
I've often thought we should do
a take two, do a take two song.

563
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Yeah, take.
Two song.

564
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,240
It'd be, it'd be it'd be not
good.

565
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,360
Mainly 'cause I can't.
I don't like.

566
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,200
A little Jingle or something?
A little Jingle, you know, you,

567
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,720
you know, never know.
So if you want to see that, you

568
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,160
know, put it in the comments,
man.

569
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,560
Yeah, all those things.
There's like so many great ideas

570
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,640
I have of like a little skit
here, a little from there.

571
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,760
It's just so hard to edit stuff.
I mean, I don't do any of it

572
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,520
anyway, but it's like, you just
got to like, it's too much work,

573
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,200
you know?
Yeah, I don't know if it's on

574
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,720
this channel like this channel
back in the day was my personal

575
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,040
channel and I started putting
some like apologetic classes up

576
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,960
there and stuff.
But it was like there was like

577
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,120
you I think you can probably see
since you have editor rights or

578
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,640
something, but you can go back
and like the very first videos.

579
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280
I have just a lot of personal
videos that are unlisted.

580
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600
So I don't I think I don't know
if it's on this channel.

581
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Once we kind of when I started
doing like clear Christian

582
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,520
thinking, we retitled the
channel, I put together a my I

583
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,120
was like, OK, I need to kind of
separate my personal videos from

584
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
this channel.
So I did create a, a just a

585
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360
different channel that is
Michael Mott.

586
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,920
So I say all that to say, I
don't know where this video

587
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,120
lives.
It could be on that one, it

588
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,160
could be on both.
But I did, we did back when

589
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Julia was born, 2013, we put I
put together a edited video of

590
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Chloe and Lydia called the N
sisters.

591
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Oh, that's funny.
And because when we were

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,280
visiting Jill, they would fight
for the who's going to push the

593
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,040
buttons on the elevators at
MUSC?

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,200
And so Juju, Jill's mom got onto
him like y'all should be, you

595
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,240
know, you should be the first
show, be the last slash should

596
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,960
be first.
You know, you should be wanting

597
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,720
your, you know, you should love
each other enough like the

598
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,120
other.
So the next time they're like,

599
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,040
no, you go first, you go first,
you go first.

600
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,520
So then we made a little skid
out of that, called it the

601
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,680
ancestors because they were
insisting that the other one

602
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,280
goes first.
Insist.

603
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Good.
That's really good.

604
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Insist, man.
So good.

605
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000
You know, I, I had you know,
when you think of something that

606
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280
I'm just like too tired.
I had it was such a good thing

607
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760
to add here.
It it was another plug for this

608
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280
stupid video made this little
skit in college that I'm gonna

609
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,360
that that I don't remember what
we called it.

610
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,600
Smith 232 'cause that was the
name of our dorm in our dorm

611
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,760
room.
Smith, 232.

612
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Our roommates.
And this is from Bob Jones.

613
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Bob Jones, the.
Bears.

614
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480
Bruins.
The Bruins, they are Bears.

615
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,120
I mean, you're not wrong.
Yeah, yeah.

616
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,800
It was, yeah.
So it was good.

617
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640
You know what they were called
before the Bruins?

618
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,040
You told me this before and it
was something honestly, I.

619
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Actually like it.
Yeah.

620
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,480
What was it?
The Swamp Angels.

621
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,480
Swamp angels, isn't that.
Crazy.

622
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
I think maybe I made that up.
And I think, I don't think

623
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,440
that's what they were back in
the day.

624
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaking of the Bears, yeah, AKA
Bruins Bears.

625
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Have you heard that the Chicago
Bears are probably gonna move

626
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,080
out of Chicago and Indiana?
Yeah, the Bears are going to

627
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,280
move to Indiana.
Likely.

628
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,520
Just like tax reasons state like
that seems weird they don't have

629
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,360
space in Chicago or like what's
the deal I think.

630
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,960
They're just tired of Chicago.
No.

631
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,520
Are you serious?
Yeah, and the Indiana?

632
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Indiana be a better market than
Chicago?

633
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Well.
It's like, you know, there's

634
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,680
like.
I know it's not far.

635
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,840
I guess they're just thinking
they'll keep all their fans,

636
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,640
like they won't like Alien and
so I guess.

637
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,920
So I don't know, Yeah, go, go
check it out.

638
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,440
I well.
That's crazy cause bears is like

639
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,520
one of those.
I mean, I know they haven't been

640
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600
good for forever, but it's like,
so like.

641
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Just tradition.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

642
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440
That is crazy, man.
Sports teams, man.

643
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080
No allegiance.
It's very confusing.

644
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Like the Oklahoma City Thunder
used to be the Seattle

645
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,840
SuperSonics, and it's just weird
because.

646
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840
Who were the was there
Timberwolves?

647
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,560
Minnesota Timberwolves.
They're still around.

648
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920
What it what is it Minnesota?
Timberwolves.

649
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Yeah, yeah.
But it's weird when a team like

650
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,800
moves like I guess Oklahoma
City, like has all the history

651
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,880
of Seattle, but they're a
different team, different

652
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,200
countries.
But it's like like, do you

653
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,480
count?
They made it to the can you be

654
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,400
like, OKC made it to the finals
in 1998 or so, You know what I

655
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,160
mean?
It's like weird, like the it's

656
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,320
totally, it's like.
Seattle.

657
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Where did they go?
Where did?

658
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,760
The Grizzlies come from.
Yeah, Where did they come from?

659
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,280
Where did they go?
Cotton Eye, Joe.

660
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520
There you go.
Where would you say a lot of

661
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440
grizzly bears are?
Like where do you think?

662
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Like if you just had to guess
what part of the country.

663
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Well, up in the like Washington,
yeah.

664
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Very close to Vancouver.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

665
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,320
So yeah, they were Vancouver
Grizzlies.

666
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,840
And I guess Canadians didn't
love it.

667
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,720
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean Seattle,

668
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Vancouver both lost teams like
they got kind.

669
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Of But they went down to
Memphis, Yeah.

670
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,800
Then where do they?
They're not still in Memphis.

671
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,440
They are Memphis.
Oh, they star still in Memphis.

672
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Yeah, surprisingly, because they
don't make like small market,

673
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320
it's hard to make money.
There's there's some that they

674
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,720
just don't play in the the.
They don't play in the pyramid.

675
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Yet.
OK, I thought they left.

676
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,440
Yeah, they had to build the
FedEx forum.

677
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,360
OK.
So yeah.

678
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,880
So there is a there is a pro
sports team within driving

679
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280
distance of I'm just.
Curious like some good, they're

680
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,480
a mess, but they, I don't know
if you know anything about John

681
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Morant, but he's got this.
He's got this bad habit of like

682
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320
pulling out guns on his
Instagram videos and it's just

683
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,600
not.
Can you imagine the league

684
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920
doesn't love it?
He's a player on the team, yeah.

685
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920
He's like.
Amazing athlete.

686
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,880
He's like, he's like the perfect
athlete and the fact that he's

687
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,000
like 6 foot one and can like,
it's like a short guy who can

688
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,840
just like jump over people and
dunk over people.

689
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,160
He he's like he's been injured
and not been good and he's been

690
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520
suspended and stuff.
So he's he's, he's gonna kind of

691
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960
been a bummer, but he was like
their guy and, you know, it's

692
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720
kind of falling apart.
Yeah.

693
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680
So maybe you know this, this has
gone a little long, but maybe

694
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
you know this as APT.
You know you have slow twitch

695
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,160
and fast twitch, yes.
And strength is generally

696
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,160
associated with fast twitch
muscles lifting and stuff,

697
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,240
right?
Well, some lifts, yes and no,

698
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,760
where some strength takes a few
seconds.

699
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Like to get strength, like for a
deadlift or squat, you're going

700
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,440
to use both.
But fast twitch is usually

701
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,240
explosive fast, which is a
little bit different than

702
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,440
strength, although it's they're
more similar than endurance.

703
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,760
But you all of a say it's a big
spectrum.

704
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,520
It's not like type 2 type one.
It's like, I mean, it's

705
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,120
everything in between.
Yeah, so back when in my more

706
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,360
trim days, even even I was just,
I was never a dunker.

707
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,199
I just never had the
explosiveness but.

708
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,400
A strong guy.
But a strong guy.

709
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719
I mean, you know, you've heard
me say it.

710
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,800
Yeah.
I don't know that you believe

711
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,639
it, but a a sprinter.
Back in the day, yeah.

712
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
So I was, I was always puzzled
by this, like that is.

713
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,639
So interesting because this is
not this is this is always true.

714
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,360
What you're saying can be true
to, but nine times out of 10 you

715
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,360
find the guy that can jump the
highest, probably the fastest.

716
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Not always true, but that that's
like a really good correlation,

717
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,840
but not all the time.
Yeah, yeah.

718
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,159
And I want to say this, I was
not faster than the running

719
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:53,880
backs.
Oh, right.

720
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Yeah.
But a state.

721
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,240
Yeah, yeah.
But I was so I guess that is a

722
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:04,120
good measure, you know, being
the fastest O lineman and the

723
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
the the best.
I think I had either the best of

724
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,920
this, I don't also walk on it a
state.

725
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I had either the best or the

726
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,360
second best vertical of the
alignment.

727
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960
That's impressive.
Yeah, but I was also some of

728
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,040
those guys were.
Yeah, that's probably the limit

729
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,120
thing.
And I was like. 250-5265 So I

730
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,760
was having to get less up in the
air.

731
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Yeah, that's probably a lot of
it too.

732
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,880
It's like it's a lot easier to
jump.

733
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,280
Like if you're producing the
same amount of force but you

734
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,320
have less weight to push that
that's also.

735
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960
A big part of it, yeah.
A big part of pull ups too, just

736
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,840
like that's.
True.

737
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,560
There was there was one time in
my life that I could do pull ups

738
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,160
is in the Navy.
I was running all the time and I

739
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
weighed more than than when I
was.

740
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,080
Maybe I could have done a pull
up in football.

741
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,840
We just didn't do them a lot at
a state.

742
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,360
We were lifting like crazy all
the time at a state, but I don't

743
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,400
know that pull up was in there.
It's great.

744
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,760
But when I was in the Navy, we
were running all the time.

745
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,080
I went into a gym and I was
like, we'll just see.

746
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160
And I was like, I was like, I
need a pull up.

747
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,000
Really never not be able to do a
pull up again.

748
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,520
And it's like, you know, 12
months later, I was like, I

749
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,320
can't do a pull up anymore.
Yeah, it's so funny.

750
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,800
Like finding those because
obviously I'm, I'm the opposite

751
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,280
where it's like I'll go to the
fair and they'll be like do 15

752
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,240
pull ups, you win a prize, it'll
be easy, let's do it.

753
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,800
But I'm not very strong, but I
can do a lot of pull ups are,

754
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680
you know what I'm saying?
So it's all and I could always

755
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120
jump high and run fast, but it's
all relative to body weight

756
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,680
where, you know, I I wasn't
putting up great numbers in the

757
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,120
weight room, you know what I
mean?

758
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Yeah, which which was crazy
because, you know, I just kind

759
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,400
of returned to weightlifting and
like on my second or third one,

760
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,960
I did my peaked on my bench like
205 five times, which is yeah.

761
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's pretty good.

762
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,800
Like there's so I'm like 225 is
right around the corner, which

763
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,640
is like what a lot of people are
like they if you can get 225,

764
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,680
but I'm but I'm a big guy.
So you would think that, you

765
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,040
know, I have probably just, I
don't know, more mass, more

766
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,960
frame to.
Do that.

767
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240
Yeah, it is.
It is crazy.

768
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Yeah.
I've been, I've been, I've been

769
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320
falling off a little bit, but I
was, I've been doing a lot of

770
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,240
speed work and like sprinting
and stuff.

771
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,160
And a couple of people that play
Frisbee, they did.

772
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,120
They ran track in college.
And Zach?

773
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,440
You're so much faster.
They they haven't noticed, but

774
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,240
the but I did I this is a really
good compliment.

775
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,080
Not that Al Frisbee is a lot,
but they're like, there's like 3

776
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,040
guys that were on track in
college and they're like, Zach,

777
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,840
you ran track in college, right?
They're like, and I was like,

778
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600
no, it's great.
I was like, you know, but

779
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,360
they're like man, they're like
they which it's they're like

780
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,040
man, you would perfect for that.
They they they place me.

781
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,480
Can you guess what distance they
place me?

782
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,680
More of a not high distance, but
higher than a, you know, fast.

783
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,040
I would say 200.
See that that that would be

784
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
better.
They they place me at the 408

785
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,160
hundred.
Oh, the 800?

786
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Yeah, yeah.
And I looked at I looked up like

787
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:57,040
what's like an Olympic frame
like elite level 800m runner and

788
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,480
they're like ideal is like 5-9
to six one like 160 lbs.

789
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,320
That's like you have to be that.
Like that's like what you have

790
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,440
to be to run that because you're
because you're.

791
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Trading off what you're carrying
with your muscle that you have

792
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,240
to.
Do yeah, it's like a it's like a

793
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,760
mix where if you run the 100,
you probably need to be like 15

794
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,840
lbs more of muscle.
If you're going to run like

795
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,160
longer distance, you'd be a
little bit, a little bit

796
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,800
thinner.
But that's like the, that's like

797
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,720
what you know.
Now that I think about my

798
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,800
answer, 800 is better.
Yeah, they're like, man, you're

799
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440
built for the 800.
Yeah, I I knew a guy actually

800
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,760
crazy.
He was in a car accident and

801
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,480
died recently.
But you're billed and he went to

802
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000
state in the 800.
I was like, that's, that's I

803
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,440
wish I had track, track to run.
But soccer, soccer was good, you

804
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,160
know, basketball was fine
because I we can get off the

805
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,000
cinema running along.
But man, the best thing is just

806
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400
playing out a small Christian
School where it's like.

807
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,000
The best thing about banter at
the end is.

808
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,160
Who cares, You can tune.
Out.

809
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I loved it because you I could.

810
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560
I was always faster.
I was always faster and could

811
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,480
jump higher than like anyone we
played and then like we like

812
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,840
this was back when you were
Memphis was good.

813
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,200
We had some friends that played
like on U of M, We played pickup

814
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,280
games and it's like a whole
different game when like when

815
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,920
everyone there can like jump
just as high as you, run just as

816
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,640
fast as you and they're like 5
inches taller and they weigh 20

817
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,520
lbs more.
And you're like, Oh my, I have

818
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,400
no advantage.
Like other people used to be

819
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,440
taller than me or stronger than
me, but I could always get

820
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,760
around them.
But when you find those people

821
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,400
that are bigger and faster,
you're like, oh, this is like

822
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,440
not even fair.
You see a six three guy jump and

823
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,800
you're like that.
It's man is it it's this is this

824
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,200
is it's a different, different
world.

825
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,280
There's levels to this where a
small Christian School is much

826
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,280
different than, you know, the
real the real world.

827
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,080
So.
But anyway man, fun times.

828
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Yeah, times.
That's our take.

829
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,920
That's our take.
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830
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Two.
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831
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
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832
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