On the Road to Foster: A Conversation with Stephen and Emily Bostic

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That the listeners better get a
good could listen to your voice

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because it might not hear for
the next 30 minutes.

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I know.
I think you know, I've recorded

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some in Arkansas without you.
I guess it's, you know,

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turnabouts.
Fair play.

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You're probably jealous that you
hadn't had I.

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Just keep camping night just
I've been so much jealous of.

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You.
So what you're going to see here

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coming up is a little bit
unusual.

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Yeah.
Podcast from car.

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Nice.
Car cast.

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A car cast.
There is camera work being done

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with my wife.
It's going all over the place,

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kind of spur of the moment.
But when you're trapped in a car

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for five hours, why not?
Yeah.

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So anything you want to say
about it or do you, I, I haven't

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heard it yet.
So maybe you maybe you explain

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everything in the video.
Broad strokes, We might explain

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some in the video, but Steven
and Emily Bostick guest on the

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podcast recently went lane and I
went with them to conference on

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adoption and fostering.
They are looking at fostering.

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So that's kind of what what's
behind that podcast?

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What's you know, their thoughts?
Where did this come from?

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And learning a little bit more
about them and then about

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fostering as well.
All right, well, we will

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immediately roll into their
banter.

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That's right, I guess you'll
have some banter.

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Oh yeah, it's it's good.
Yeah, and then and then into

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their interviews.
So enjoy this while Zach.

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I forgot your name for a little
bit.

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Zach and Steven and Emily take
it to the next level.

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Hey everybody, welcome to the
Take Two podcast.

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A little bit difference today we
are in a Chrysler minivan and if

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the camera does a little pan,
you're not going to see half of

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the Take Two podcast host today,
Michael Mudd, nowhere to be

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found.
Instead, we're stuck with with

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with a couple people.
You guys want to introduce

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yourselves?
Hi, I'm Emily Bostick.

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I'm Steven Bostick.
Eyes on the driving, eyes on the

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road, man.
We're we're just getting from a

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adoption slash fostering
conference.

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So we've been on the road a
little bit to North Carolina.

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And I do want to say, you know,
God has a way of working

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everything out.
And I don't want to call anyone

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out, but I'm I'm going to call
out these people in the front of

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the car part of the conference.
There was a concerts of sorts

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where Mac Powell, lead singer
third Day, was answering some

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questions and performing and
there was this huge line, really

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long line.
And I don't know what everyone's

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thoughts on on this, but Steven
and Emily felt it was OK just to

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cut everybody in line and jump,
jump to the front.

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So explain yourselves.
Well, there's a multitude of

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reasons I actually probably have
some can.

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I preface that with that was
Steven Emily was Emily was doing

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the wifely duty of following her
husband that was to see.

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My job as a member in the local
community of Charleston Bible

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Church is to listen to the
elders, to follow their

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leadership.
And in this instance, actually

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there was a elder at the front
of the line whom called me, I

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have proof on my phone and said
come on over here to the front

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of the line.
So in this regards, that's up to

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my leadership.
That's not my.

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I did let it slide.
Do you remember what Leanne's

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face was when you cut everybody?
I couldn't because she turned

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around with embarrassment.
She she walked very far away.

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I will say this today.
I, I think it was Rick at the

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conference.
There was a scavenger hunt like

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giveaway and I thought Steven
and Emily were going to run away

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with it.
But what was her name?

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Linda or something?
I don't know who won it Some

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some lady.
So I think I think that was God,

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you know, evening out
everything.

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You guys got to go to the front
of the line for the Mac Powell

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conference but but did not her
concert but did not win the

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scavenger hunt, which was a.
That things can be bought

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nowadays, I guess.
But if you go to Emilyn

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Facebook, they'll see this.
Yeah, did you see her pictures

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of the lady who won?
No, I couldn't.

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No one could find.
Are you serious?

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Yeah, it was such a good price
to 2nd place prize was a

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T-shirt.
First place prize is like a

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three day, two night vacation to
the Blue Ridge Mountains.

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So.
Not to mention the guy that won

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it, you were supposed to find
the duck feather and he just

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took a picture of a duck and
said duck with feathers.

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No, I didn't even try, man.
Well, that's a little bit of an

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introduction.
We're going to talk a little bit

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about foster care coming up and
I know I don't have to tell

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these two because I'm sure they
are faithful listeners that take

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two buckets, but I'm going to
I'm going to tell them this just

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in case they've missed an
episode or two.

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If you are a guest, you have to
look at the camera intently and

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say let's take it to the next
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Let's take this to the next
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Nice.
Let's take this to the next

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level.
Both on the podcast and the

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driving.
It's 2 for one.

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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
All.

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Right, so maybe we can jump into
it a little bit more.

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I'm so this is also, I should
say, kind of an impromptu

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podcast.
So thank you, Steven and Emily

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being put on the spot kinda at
the last second.

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We got a lot of time on the road
and I'll tell you, it might get

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a little dicey on the way here.
There was once or twice I was a

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little bit worried for my life.
But Steven, I'm sure it's going

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to do a great job multitasking
here.

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But Steven and Emily are both in
the process of coming through

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foster care and signing up and
all that's involved with that.

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So that this is going to be a
great topic today.

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I'm going to just turn it over
to them for a little bit to tell

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us, you know, what, what kind of
led up to this point, what, what

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has you all thinking that God
has foster care in your future.

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If you want to speak to that for
a little bit, fill in our

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audience.
You know, we get this question

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quite a bit, and I don't know
exactly what led us to foster

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care.
I mean, obviously the Lord, but

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adoption first was primarily put
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It's a big part of my testimony
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And I think we were kind of just
at this point where we don't

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want to waste time while we're
young and married, but we also

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weren't at the point where we
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lifelong commitment to a child.
So we're kind of like, OK,

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what's the next right step here?
What, what can we do to make an

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impact in the season where we
don't have a lot of prior

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commitments?
And I think Steven kind of

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brought up foster care as an
option for that.

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So I met with some people who
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prayed about it and we were
like, let's let's jump into it.

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So.
Yep, that sums it up.

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Jesus is always the answer as
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And yeah, don't want to waste
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difference where we can.
And the Lord LED us to this

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process.
I I like that answer because I

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how How old are y'all if you
don't mind me asking?

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Stevens, 22, and I'm 23.
So we're, we're basically the

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same age.
I just kidding.

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I've been told multiple times
that I'm much older than them at

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this conference.
My, the Gray hair and the goatee

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can be white.
But, you know, I think I think

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that's a pretty amazing thing.
Most people when they are at

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that age are not looking at, you
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to make it meaningful and
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And I think May, May, this is a
good time to drop the podcast

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because May is foster care
month, correct?

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Yeah.
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I heard that like a couple times
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And I will say I feel like
Stevens been training for

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fatherhood and many levels at
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There was a dad joke contest.
You might be surprised Steven

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did not enter.
I thought he would be a shoe in.

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He would win.
So what?

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Wow.
Wow.

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This just came to my mind.
Is there just a killer dad joke?

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He's getting a sip of water.
I can tell he's got one on his

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mind.
That what it just like totally

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stole the show.
Man, there's a, there's a lot

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there, Zach.
I mean, really you're, you're

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trying to man, how do you
compress so many?

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So I thought.
While you're thinking of it too,

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Stevens also done many other
dadly dad, dad like duties with,

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you know, he's, he's like
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He's like washing the car in
between like sessions of the

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conferences.
So he's been preparing a long

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time.
And we'll just, I think the stat

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joke will just, you know, put it
over the edge here.

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Just put it over the edge.
Is this part of the foster care

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process?
Do they ask you They they do How

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how good are your dad jokes?
It's a very.

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Rigorous process, actually.
And they they it's a pretty

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intensive interview for that
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But yeah, I mean, I like dad
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a theme.
And the cow ones, there's really

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just there's a lot there with
the cow ones.

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Great.
Let's.

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Let's hear a series of cow dad
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OK, let's just start off.
Start off pretty simple.

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Oh man, dude, there's some good
jokes here.

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First of all, I got to pay
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But anyway, how do you count
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How do you count cows?
I I don't know.

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With a calculator OK.
You know you got to.

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Start off pretty simple.
Pretty simple.

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What do you call a cow in an
earthquake?

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OK, an earthquake, cows.
I don't know.

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Milkshake.
Nice.

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And then my favorite one will
just end here because I don't

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want to, you know, make you guys
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What do you call a cow that
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What?
A musician.

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I got to end it there.
That's nice.

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I bet you could have kept going
with the cow.

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That joke.
So you can see Steven prepared

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for fatherhood with some of
those dad jokes.

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Maybe y'all can tell us, for
those who don't know what, what

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does the fostering process look
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Like what has to happen?
How far along are y'all in this

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process?
What kind of steps and hoops do

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you have to jump through?
Is it easy, Is it hard?

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Kind of fill us in along those
lines.

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Well, I hope you're pretty good
at filling out paperwork.

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You'll have to do plenty of
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There is definitely the
paperwork you will have to do

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some online schooling, which
thank the Lord for COVID in that

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regard because I was told that
prior to COVID, online was not

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an option.
So you know, there's a silver

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lining to every cloud.
I do recommend paying attention

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to the online courses because
there are quizzes which I did

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not realize at first.
Full confession, full

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transparency.
Honesty is good.

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So I did have to back up and re
watch some of that.

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Anyway, so you will have many
hours spent online and currently

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I'm on spring break.
They run it in three blocks.

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So at the end of each of the
third blocks you have to

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actually meet with someone.
So I finished up my first block,

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reached out to an instructor who
never got back with me.

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So prepare for some of that with
the fostering stuff.

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So I'm waiting to get in touch
with them to have my interview

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to confirm that I have been
listening to these lessons and

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not.
And he just kind of goes over

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that whole first block with you,
like just touching.

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Make sure you understand it your
competence.

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Yep, they go back through and
review and.

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What is it like safety or like,
like I don't like what kind of

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things are you guys going
through?

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A lot of it is trauma based
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OK.
As you could imagine, that's

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most of what the foster care
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And it is you got to have a
little bit of guts to hear and

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walk through some of the stuff
that they talk about.

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But yeah, a lot of it's how to
handle different issues and

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situations.
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childhood development in it
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nursing school 'cause I go
through like milestones based

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off age range versus, you know,
kids who grew up in a loving

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home versus trauma based
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or regression, I guess in that
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So there's a lot of education in
that you have to do physical

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exams, background checks,
fingerprints, the fire Marshall

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has to come approve your home
for a certain safety things.

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So it's just it's a long
checklist of of things you have

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to provide it's.
It's a very long checklist and

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I'll kind of run off the
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intimidated by it.
It's a very long checklist, but

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it's a very doable checklist.
It's nothing that's impossible.

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It's not like college courses.
It's long as you got a little

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bit of head on your shoulders.
I mean if I could do it.

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Hey, that's actually super great
point.

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We should rate for her.
So I'm just kidding you guys.

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I feel like you're very well
equipped.

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You all are.
Seems like doing everything

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right on the career path,
working really hard.

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You know, Emily's background is
nursing that in Pediatrics is

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where she's currently working.
So that I think uniquely equips

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her and Steven for this.
But I like that that it's not

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this insurmountable barrier
because I think that's like

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everyone's going to say foster
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not for me.
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the common theme that that you
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A lot of lot of work, a lot of
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And it is those things.
But you know, behind it is

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really just the willingness to
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thing.
What else?

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What else is on y'all's mind or
what's what's the next step?

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So you got to finish this course
work and then what happens after

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that?
We have to finish our education

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and our paperwork that we've got
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We have to have the fire
Marshall proof where we'll be

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living.
But that's kind of a Gray area

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as to where we'll be in the next
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So we've got to finish that.
And then it's kind of just we do

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stuff to do our physicals.
Actually, that's my.

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But besides that, then we kind
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our licensing coordinator and we
get our license.

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And South Carolina has such a
shortage of foster families

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that's typically within 72 hours
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People are getting kids.
So, you know, there's there's a

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big mean, I would say like the
two things people always say as

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to why they can never do foster.
Here is One Financial which

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that's not true.
I feel like that's a big like

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misconception is that you have
to pour all this money in which,

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yeah, you probably have to
sacrifice some of your money,

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but there is daily stipends
depending on the kids severity

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of needs.
So a good bit of that's covered.

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So I don't think that's
necessarily an excuse to to not

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do it as well as like, oh, I
could never like give a kid up

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like that type of thing, which I
mean, as as believers you're

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called to have sacrificial love
like Jesus.

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So I don't know that that's
really a good reason to not do

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it either.
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And it kind of to me, I look at
it like the like changing the

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tire on the side of the road,
you know, you're driving along

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and there's a car broke down and
a lot of people look at that and

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they go, you know, they probably
have a tire blown or whatever,

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but I'm running late, I don't
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I'll let somebody else jump on
that, you know, when really

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that's the problem because
everybody's having that

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mentality.
And so how many people are going

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to pass by the opportunity?
And one thing actually that I

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will allude to in that regards
that I was talking to Emily

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about earlier that I kind of
felt convicted in was in my

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mentality and going into the
foster was, well, once we have

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kids, you know, we're probably
going to put this on hold.

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Or once we adopt A kid, we're
going to put this on hold.

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Then you go and talk to people
that are actually doing it.

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And it's like, yeah, we kind of
reached our limit.

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Oh, really?
How many do you have?

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Well, six.
It's like, oh, oh, OK.

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And they're like, yeah.
Well, we had three biological

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and then adopted 3.
And it's like.

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Wow.
And just the people that did it

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as they did life.
And I think some people think

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and, and myself included, like,
you know, if I'm going to

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foster, it has to be, it can
only be the foster kids.

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There has to be during this
small window when it doesn't.

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And a lot of people do it with a
lot of foster kids.

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You know, it's not like people
do just one kid.

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Sometimes they have 345.
And so that was one thing that

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kind of convicted me and that I
would encourage other people to

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re evaluate their life with that
in mind.

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Yeah, I, I want to jump on that
because, and Emily brought this

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up to you guys, kind of talk to
people who had fostered and that

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kind of thing.
I think that's a great thing to

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do.
I don't know a ton of people

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that have done foster care at
this conference.

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I talked to a lot of people and
they're like, oh, tell me about

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your adoption story.
Kind of like Stephen was saying.

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And I would say, you know,
adopted her oldest too.

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And I would feel kind of bad
because everyone was like, I

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have fostered 18 kids or I've
adopted 8 kids and it's like,

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wow.
And these are really just, you

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talk to them like normal people
and you look like, wow, you

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know, I can do this.
There are resources.

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Not saying it will be easy, but
I like that, you know, changing

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a tire analogy, it's like no
one's doing it.

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And we talked about this great
need where it's like, man, if

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more people did this, what up,
you know, what a testimony to to

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Christ that that would be, which
leads me to I'm going.

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To Rob, yes, go for it.
One thing, just to throw off the

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coat tails of that, for the
people that may or may not be

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listening, look up how many
churches there are per state

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versus how many foster kids are
currently without a home.

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If you just go on your phone and
do a quick search, I think

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you'll be surprised.
Yeah, that's good.

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Maybe we can get get some of
those stats.

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I think that's great when it
comes to fostering.

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One other question and and then
I then will ask things like

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what's God been teaching you
through this as far as age range

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or how does that work?
Are you guys at that point?

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Do they just present with you
different cases that it's like a

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need based thing or how does
that work?

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Do you have something to expect?
What's that look like?

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Well, because there's such a
large need, you kind of get to,

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it kind of sounds weird or
wrong.

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You kind of get to pick what
you're willing to take on.

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And actually we not long ago
filled out a document that they

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give you.
We have to go through and select

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what issues you're willing to
accept or not accept and then

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also the severity of them.
So because there's such a large

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need, you know, you can get any,
You can get a kid that seems

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proverbially, you know, normal,
or you can get ones that have a

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lot of difficulties, that need a
lot more work.

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OK, gotcha.
But yes, in the beginning stages

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they let you specify that.
So we said ages 2 to 10, boys.

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Yeah, nice.
Well, we are excited for your

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continued process.
That's the last two questions I

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have.
I'll give them both to you right

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now so you can think about it or
ask which one or answer which

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ones you want to first.
Are, you know, what kind of

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things has got been teaching
you, whether it's, you know,

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specific passage of Scripture or
specific lesson or something

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else you you'd just like to
share?

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And then how can others pray for
you as you're navigating this

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process and you're kind of
coming up a little bit more

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coursework and then, like you
said, pretty fast.

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You might have, you know,
children or a child in your

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home.
So whatever you want to do, run

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in any direction you want.
What's God been teaching you and

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what How can we pray for you
better?

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I would say early on in this
process, what the Lord's kind of

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taught me then and still
currently is really open your

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eyes.
Growing up in a family that had

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a very big vision for
international work and at my age

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and kind of looking at life, I
always thought, you know, that'd

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be great to help out.
But that's going to be a later

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in life thing.
And it, and it very well may be

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the, you know, the Lord's
leading, but open your eyes to

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the need in your backyard.
A lot of people kind of close

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their eyes to the idea of Foster
and serving in that manner, as

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well as adoption and many other,
many other ways.

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And so the Lord's really just
showed me that is like, just

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look in your backyard.
It's not far.

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It's, it's right there, it's
right in your community, it's

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right around you.
And I'd say he really has kind

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of shown me that.
And then through this process is

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there's there's a need.
It's good need, yeah.

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It kind of goes along with what
Steven brought up just a second

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ago was like in the process, we
have to, we have to checklist of

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like what we're willing to take,
the severity of what we're

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willing to take.
And I think in and through that.

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And then we went to the Forest
Rink concert, if you know who

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that is, and they promoted
adoption and fostering a lot and

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they kind of brought that back
up.

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And it has just stuck with me.
I think that God has shown me

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through this process just a very
more tangible view of his mercy.

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Like, you know, thanks be to God
that he didn't see my sins on

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this check off and he was like,
sorry, I can't take that one,

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you know.
So I think that's really hit

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home for me recently and like
going through this process,

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saying what we're willing to
take or accept, like just God's

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mercy and adopting me into his
family, regardless of all of the

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check boxes I would have had to
fill out for me.

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So.
Man, yeah, I think that's so

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good because, you know, like so
many things in Scripture,

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pastors always preaching on
these different, you know,

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lesser to the greater adoption
is that perfect example.

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It just to me, it helps you see
the gospel so much more clear

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because it's all these things
are so closely connected, just,

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you know, in a much greater way
with how God loves us and adopts

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us.
How can we pray for you all

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during this time?
I would say the age-old question

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or the age-old answer rather for
me would just be wisdom and

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discernment.
But also the big thing in this

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process is peace.
Peace in different times when

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there will be waiting and
difficulties and also unknowns.

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But just for a peace that
surpasses understanding through

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this process and that we would
ultimately seek to glorify the

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Lord and and have an impact in
the lives of these children and

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also begin preparing their
hearts for this process.

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Because you know, it's not
sometimes it can be very

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self-centered and self focused,
kind of like Lord start working

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in me.
But I would say just start the

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Lord just opening their doors
and opening their hearts and

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even asking questions and kind
of begin building those

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questions to not waste time once
they once we are able to, to

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foster them.
That's good.

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Anything you'd add to that,
Emily?

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Yeah, I'd say my number one
prayer request in this whole

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process is just like preparation
for our future and foster child

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or children's hearts to, to hear
and receive the gospel.

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I also just, I guess I would ask
for prayer for me because I, I

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didn't have the example that a
lot of people had growing up.

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My family didn't attend church.
They weren't, you know, devout

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believers or anything like that.
So just being able to like walk

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in a way that I'm that's worthy
of the calling to which I've

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been called and just to be able
to show my kids love of price to

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grow in gentleness and just bear
that fruit for them that I might

450
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,840
not have had the example to like
walk into.

451
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,600
But those are good things.
We can, I'm sure who was

452
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,880
watching us be praying for those
those sorts of things.

453
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,840
We're excited for you.
It's it's pretty amazing.

454
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,560
You guys are so young, jumping
into some pretty, pretty crazy

455
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,160
stuff in a good way.
And you know that the one

456
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,720
mistake I will say they have
made is that they have allowed

457
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040
us to like what?
Like we signed paperwork saying

458
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,240
we could watch their foster
children.

459
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,600
Which man, good luck that that's
on you.

460
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,800
You know, and I will say, hey,
kudos to you Zach.

461
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,200
You're, you guys are one of the
few that actually has jumped on

462
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,560
that to some degree as far as
being able to watch them.

463
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,640
And so that actually right there
is a need that the body of

464
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,160
Christ can easily fulfill.
I was just helping out in that

465
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,720
regard.
So.

466
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Yeah, fine.
Yeah, Yeah, That, that, that's a

467
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,760
great tangent.
You were our only option there,

468
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,160
so we kind of didn't.
Add.

469
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,600
Much going on there, but.
I will add and I'll, I'll hop

470
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,440
off the soapbox, but everyone
that I've talked to has like

471
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,880
commended us for it.
And I really, I don't want us to

472
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,320
get a savior complex because
we're not the savior, but also

473
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,800
like rather, I'm not saying
everyone's called to foster or

474
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,480
adopt or to be that parent, but
everyone is called to minister

475
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000
to the orphans of widows.
So rather that's giving your

476
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520
time, rather that's praying,
rather that's babysitting for

477
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,040
people who have adopted and
fostered.

478
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,440
You are called to minister to
them in one way or another.

479
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,920
That's good.
You don't.

480
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,480
There's a multitude of ways you
can help, and some of them are,

481
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,080
you know, much less of a
commitment than others.

482
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400
But just find a way to get
involved.

483
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,000
I think that's a good place
where we can transition.

484
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,520
I'm going to open up because I'm
sure Stephen's got something on

485
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,720
his mind.
I was trying to recap this

486
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840
conference.
Anything else crazy or funny

487
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,560
happened?
It's it's been a roller coaster

488
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520
man.
So much has happened in such a

489
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,360
short amount.
I will.

490
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,440
Say the trip started off even
pre trip.

491
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,240
I don't want to bring up like
traumatic.

492
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,840
Yeah.
Should I say this?

493
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,200
Should I not say this?
No, no, absolutely.

494
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,280
Let's go down this the first
squirrel trail.

495
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,160
I will say, if you're a squirrel
out there, be careful.

496
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,360
Emily's coming for you.
Emily murdered in cold blood a

497
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,240
squirrel with her car.
You said you swerved in.

498
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,440
You did not swerve out of the
way on purpose, is what you told

499
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,000
me.
There was an oncoming car, it

500
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720
was mirror the squirrel and I
cried after I hit the squirrel

501
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,520
to clarify.
Didn't.

502
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,440
Then did anything happen after
the squirrel?

503
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,880
Did anything at all happen?
I'd love to know.

504
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Actually, the viewers would like
to know.

505
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,400
Well, I'll just go ahead and
tell you that since for a little

506
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,440
bit you understand there's speed
limits and speed limits are not

507
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,200
recommendations.
Actually, it says limit, not

508
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,880
recommended limit.
And so if you're going

509
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,160
substantially over the speed
limit, police officers like to

510
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,720
pull you over and have a small
little chat.

511
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,320
And sometimes you can give you a
piece of paper if you're lucky

512
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,880
enough and it.
Should Were you lucky?

513
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,240
Did you get a piece of paper?
Did you?

514
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,320
Were you lucky?
I can't believe this is my life.

515
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,480
Hey, you're in good company
though Leanne got pulled over a

516
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,360
week ago, so you know.
Yeah, in fact, Leanne's I

517
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,680
believe was a little bit more
serious of an offence despite

518
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Emily's left foot.
I will preface that I still had

519
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,160
tears in my eyes from hitting a
squirrel when I got pulled over,

520
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280
so I think I could plead that I
was emotionally distraught.

521
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,320
Oh man.
Or you could plead that your

522
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960
speed actually killed the
squirrel.

523
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,320
Wow.
You had been going slower, you

524
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,160
might have been able to avoid
the squirrel.

525
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,240
No, I actually slowed down,
which made in hitting the

526
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,480
squirrel worse.
Oh, so it was a more slow,

527
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,200
painful.
Then, so I don't think that.

528
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,320
Was the issue.
I got it.

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,400
That was That was a good way to
get everything started.

530
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,160
Our trip was pretty uneventful.
There's only one time the car

531
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,400
started beeping at us because we
were about the rear end someone

532
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,440
else, but I don't know if
anything else crazy has happened

533
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,800
so far.
No, it's pretty good on pretty

534
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,560
well.
I will I will say very loud in

535
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,640
public.
So sorry, I know I will.

536
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,040
I did.
This is sort of a different

537
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320
time, but at the conference I
was trying to be friendly and

538
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320
talk to people.
I I think I fist bumped someone

539
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,720
who did not want to be fist
bumps.

540
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,920
I'm just making friends.
Yeah, at the conference, you

541
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,520
know.
And Zach, actually the first

542
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,120
night, very first night, they're
doing like a meet and greet type

543
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,520
deal and we landed at a table.
Phenomenal gentlemen.

544
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Really got to know him deeply.
He's a man of very.

545
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,840
Few words, very few words.
I was throwing everything I

546
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,640
could at him and he would just
yes or no answer, shut it down.

547
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,440
One of the most awkward.
Yeah.

548
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,720
One of the most awkward.
Interactions and this is the

549
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,360
worst part about it is that
y'all were watching me and you

550
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,440
guys did not save me or jumped
in you just watched me just.

551
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,400
Suffer.
And I was crying on the inside.

552
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840
Actually, it was.
It was quite comedic.

553
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,600
Zacks over there, you know, he'd
have a word exchange and he

554
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,320
could turn back to Leanne a few
seconds later.

555
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,760
So what about this?
Yeah.

556
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440
I actually put my hand on Steven
because it was Zach, the nice

557
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,240
gentleman, me and Steven, and I
was like, Steven, we should have

558
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,200
switched so you could talk to
him.

559
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Stevens.
Like I don't think it would

560
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,760
have.
Like I would have been just, I

561
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,840
just enjoy what I'm doing here,
you know, watching Zach sing.

562
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440
That was tough.
Well, Robert, if I see you

563
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,360
again, I'll do better next time.
Yeah.

564
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680
Honestly, Robert, lovely man.
It's great.

565
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Look forward to it.
Any final words of wisdom as we

566
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840
wrap up this unique pod on the
road?

567
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,120
Anything you guys want to add
before we we wrap it up?

568
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,400
Nothing is impossible.
I'm sitting here at 22 years old

569
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080
doing a podcast with Zach about
Foster.

570
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,320
So you know.
Your life's took a terrible

571
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,800
turn.
It's.

572
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,840
Turned a lot, you know, you even
think about Zach and I's

573
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,200
relationship over the years and
never thought it would land

574
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,480
right here.
Hey, here we are.

575
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Yeah, this is great.
We've had a great time.

576
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,320
It's been super fun.
Glad to it's been.

577
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,560
So we got to stop at Bucky's on
the way up, man.

578
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,640
You know, it's it's been.
Some Beaver Nuggets.

579
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560
You got some if you've never
tried Bucky's Beaver Nuggets, I

580
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,960
don't know if I can recommend
them.

581
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680
No, but they're cheap.
But they're cheap.

582
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,920
They they're something our guest
also close out the podcast by

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,960
saying you guys should say at
the same time, I'll say 123 and

584
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,560
you guys say that's our take
123.

585
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,280
That's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take

586
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Two.
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587
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,000
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588
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,640
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