Children of God — A Biblical Theology of Adoption 2 | Adopted by the Father: His Loving Plan and Preparation

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121 Does that number mean
anything to you?

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No.
I'm nervous now.

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I'm nervous. 121 We did an
episode oh, a long time ago

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this.
Is like where Jill finally made

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it to 121.
That's what you're saying?

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Yeah, I'm just.
Kidding where we talked about

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goals for this year?
Oh goodness.

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And you said you were going to
do 100 days where you exercise,

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dude.
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And I was like, well, I don't
know if I'll do 100 days where I

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actually get a routine in, but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 days of

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closing all three of my rings.
Yeah.

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And when I counted like a week
and a half ago or so, I was like

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surprised.
I was like, I got to see how

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many more I got to get in.
But I'm sorry, at 1:21.

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Killing it.
And I think when I counted days

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that I had an actual extras,
like a actual workout recorded

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was something like 69 or
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I think I had 31.
So I I might be able to get in

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100 actual workouts.
Now I probably need to like slow

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down eating or something 'cause
those things are not in this is.

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Like the problem when not 'cause
I have this problem too.

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When I work out a lot, I eat a
lot more.

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It's hard to.
It's hard to, especially when

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you're trying to lift and stuff.
If you're not eating, you don't

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make progress.
It's like actually demoralizing.

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But you're like, OK, yeah.
Yeah, it's hard.

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If you're lifting with someone
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binge you can it's easier to go
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Oh yeah.
But if you're not, you don't

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want to.
Like, am I not pushing myself

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hard enough?
Should I push myself harder?

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Yeah.
So also coaching soccer.

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Coaching soccer.
Good times.

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Cool.
It's nothing.

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Nothing.
Nothing stressful, you know?

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Yeah, I Jackson knows what he's
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Yeah, so, so I feel like you
talking about, we were talking,

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I don't even know when these
will come out.

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So what what I'm about to
reference may not even come out

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yet, but we were talking about
playing cards.

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You were talking about how you
could be kind of ruthless.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think maybe in your

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maturity, you swing the pendulum
the other way and.

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You know, you might be right,
'cause this, this is what I did

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last year too, when I, when I
had this is, this is my move.

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And the last year was so easy to
do.

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Our team was head and shoulders
better than everyone, my move

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and I.
And when I'm coaching, I hate to

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be perceived as like the coach
that's like biased towards his

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kids.
I would always, every single

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game, Jayden and Jack would play
the whole first quarter on the

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bench.
They would sit out every single

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game.
It'd be like whatever I put them

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both in, we just start
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Like it was like it was almost
like I loved it.

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If we could survive the first
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We had a really good team.
So I was trying to keep like

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Jackson out and then I put him
in and I really try to limit

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second graders to like three
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I try to limit and I try to get,
you know, kindergarteners if two

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to well, it's two, obviously, if
it's a lot of them, three if I

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can, but I know what you're
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Some, some of it's not conducive
toward, you know, maximizing.

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If I've been a parent where I'm
on the sidelines, I'm like, hey,

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I want my kid to play, but I
also want my kid to win, you

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know what I'm saying?
So put that good kid out on the

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field, give him some scoring
opportunities, you know what I'm

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saying?
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Yeah, 'cause my mind too, what
I, what I would like to do in a

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perfect world and what I would
try to do would put, I would

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like to put.
Simeon and go 100% four

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quarters, is that what you're
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No.
That that that's just what I

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would like to.
I like to put like everyone gets

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1/4 on offense, 1/4 on defense
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And if I could do like Jax and I
go, you know, get some

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experience.
See, the thing, we have one kid,

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hilarious kindergartner.
He just wants to stand in a

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circle.
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Stand in the circle when the
ball comes by.

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He's like, Dev.
I was like, I was like, hey,

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you're playing.
He's like, I need to say I was

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like, honestly, just stay in a
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Like doesn't bother me.
Yeah, yeah, we got, we got to

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think about a solution for him.
I thought maybe half of the 1st

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of every quarter.
Yeah, something like that's a

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good.
And you can pull them out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Something like that is good.

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And I'll tell you this is
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One practice I came to to see if
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someone hit his family got there
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I think it was older brother
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old, how old he was.
He was like a much older maybe

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like 4th grade or something.
And this kid was like so

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engaged.
He was getting like pushed onto

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the ground.
He was so resilient getting up

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put I was like, I think he's
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and like very especially in a
game when you're playing, you

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see parents and kids you don't
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Well, you saw an older brother
doing this to this player on

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art, and he was.
Fine.

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And he was like pushing back and
he was like a, he was like

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resilient, which is not the word
I would use.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
He wasn't like melting down and

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then like, it's not, not that
it's like a meltdown, but it's

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like we're just like not engaged
or you know.

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If Simeon's not in goal four
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in goal?
This.

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Is this is the thing?
Is it Jackson?

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And Jackson played great goalie.
The first time he played goalie,

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he made like, Awesome says.
The second time he played

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goalie, you might have been
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Did not play well, but it's
because I gave, when I give him

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queuing, it's apparently
terrible cues.

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I was like, hey, you can own
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Everything in this box is yours.
And what he meant was when the

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he would like just stand in
random places in the box, like

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not in the goal.
He got scored on 'cause he was

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not in the goal one time.
But he's like totally capable.

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What?
You mean is probably have a home

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base here, but don't be afraid
to go out if the ball's there

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and go attack it.
Just get 'cause I would like, I

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think it's good for people to
play like a little bit

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different.
If I, I would, I don't like

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Jackson be a goalie, but I would
like him to play.

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So he's like, OK, this is what
the goalie does.

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But man, it's it just.
And the other thing is when

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Jackson's not playing offense,
it's just night and day.

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Yeah, we don't really have.
And Phoebe was talking.

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Phoebe, you know, she thinks a
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That's.
Good she was.

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Like she was asking how she did
and I was like, I think you did

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well.
I think you've gotten better.

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I think you're more aware of the
overall flow of the game.

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I said, I still think you're a
better defender than a, than an

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offender.
And she's like, well, well, I

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still play offense.
And I was like, yeah, 'cause we,

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we like to play everyone kind of
defense and offense, 'cause

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there, there may be a hidden
offender in there that we don't

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find out until you're a first
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you're learning the game.
We don't want to just peg you as

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defense, but there's some people
I think like, can we say names

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here?
I I.

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Don't care.
Brody, he, when he, I've seen

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him naturally, just stay with
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really, really naturally where I
don't know that he plays defense

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very naturally.
So yeah.

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There's some people that maybe
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like.
No, I, I, I, I think you're

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right.
I try not to like you're saying

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like pigeonhole people, but I
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pigeonholed at like striker,
great thing, best thing for me,

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like love it.
Like never played me a defense,

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Like I love that.
So it can be a good thing, you

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know, too.
And then I get people of like,

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natural inclinations and like,
they're good at certain things.

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Fortunately.
I mean, we've got so many

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kindergartners, it's crazy, But
most?

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Of our it does seem like, and I
don't know, like if you're, if I

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guess we're saying a whole bunch
of names.

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Yeah, put yourself in Steele's
position and let's say you have,

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and I'm not saying this is the
case, but let's say this this is

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the case.
Let's stipulate you've got some

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people.
You think these are good

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coaches?
Probably.

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And you got some people like
maybe not the best coaches.

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Do you still give them kids of
equal thing or do you like

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handicap the good coaches?
Like, you know what, in order to

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make these teams kind of even, I
need to give these people some

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more natural talent and like,
let these.

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Good coaches develop.
I really wonder.

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I think it's such a confluence
of a every coach, which like,

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I'm sure he tried to make it
work for me where I'm coaching

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both age groups.
And so it's time to get like all

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this, this coach come on any
Thursday, Monday, he does like

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that.
And then he tries to lose

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siblings on this, whatever.
And then the other, well, and I

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think what you said might go
into it too.

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And then the other thing that
goes into it is I know for a

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fact 3 kids that were on my team
in years past have they're like

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always together all the time.
They're all really good.

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It's actually probably unfair
that they're always together.

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And I wonder how much is parents
pushing like, hey, we have to do

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this, whether it's a good reason
like carpool, I don't know what

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there might be a good reason
behind it, but it's like last

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year we had three second graders
in addition to Jayden on our

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team, and they were like some of
the better second graders and

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they're on the same team for
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It might be coincidence, but I
don't know how much of that

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drives it too.
You know what I mean?

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Where all these things probably
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Together Team Black team.
They're on the green team.

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OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
And so it's like, I don't know

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how much of that like totally
drives it because at some point

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still price steals.
Like these are battles that I'm

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not going to fight or makes up.
Because I think he's the type of

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guy too, that would be like, no,
you're stacking like he would

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say like you're stacking it.
But if it's like, yeah, there's

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some leeway, he might be like,
hey, this just makes sense,

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whatever.
Yeah, I it's a it's a quandary

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like, yeah, and I'm not
necessarily saying that.

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I'm not saying I don't want to
be like, oh, we're the best

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coaches.
So you.

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But it does seem like we have a
disproportionate number of

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because we we asked for me and
Jonathan to be there.

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So that brings in two female
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Everly.
But we have.

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Dude.
Half our team, a whole bunch of

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half our team, we have two. 1st
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what 5 I mean, maybe not I mean.
It's a lot of, it's a lot of

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kindergarteners and a lot of
girls.

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And there's nothing wrong with
girls, but you know.

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But but like you know but.
Guys are generally a little bit,

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you know, a little you know.
More aggressive even if they're

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even if the skill level stuff as
a general rule, like I think I

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think yeah and honestly, it's
funny like and.

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We've only had one loss and I
think we could beat that team.

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No, we, we are definitely the
better team.

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We, we, I'm sorry, I I honestly,
I, I, when I get to end of zone,

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like we could like honestly next
time we, I think we, I don't

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know if we play that team next.
Like I'm fine with optimizing

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our lineup because we, we get
like I didn't do it before

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because I probably was arrogant
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go out there and score some
goals.

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You know what I mean?
Like everyone can get like can

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get exposure, they can learn and
we'll still we'll get our take

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and eat it too.
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Think the best place if we
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I think the best place, if
Jackson would do it, just put

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Jackson on defense.
But say.

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But tell him flow up and play
offense.

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Honestly, yeah.
Flow up and play offense, you

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know, be back for defense.
Like the field's small enough he

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could do it.
But if the ball, if you get a

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break, take it 'cause that's
like if, if we, you know, if I

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could sit down and just have 15
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Talk to him like, hey, this is

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how we're thinking about this.
You're back here, but if you're

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starting dribbling it kind of
like a like a midfielder.

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I know, honestly, I'm fine.
Let's do it for this team we

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lost to last time just to send,
send a message because that's

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what kindergarten through 2nd
grade soccer is about.

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And honestly, I'm fine with
trying Jackson there.

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And it's like, I mean, this kid
was sick yesterday, yesterday,

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and he just banged, you know?
I was really impressed.

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You know the the the other team
may not have optimized their

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goalie.
Though that was a mistake.

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Yeah, yeah.
Because honestly, if we didn't

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have Simeon maybe up a Creek a
little bit, our first graders

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are not good goalies.
I think Jackson could do it.

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You need some coaching the game.
She could play goalie.

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I was like, no, I was like,
let's play to our strength.

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And the kindergarten.
So because the challenge,

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honestly, like we have Asher who
played heck of a game yesterday,

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he's when he's engaged, he's so
good.

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The problem is, I think even in
first grade, you float in and

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out where you're doing
cartwheels.

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Like you get goalie, you're so
disconnected.

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Sometimes you're like you, at
least when he's on the field,

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you can run after a ball, right,
Right.

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But goalie, it's hard.
We're sitting.

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And.
Staying glued to it.

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I think he takes some pride in
it in a good way where he's he's

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got him.
He's like he's like a cheat code

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in goalie for a lot of time.
So honestly, let's just do it

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next time we play that team,
start Jackson.

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Let's get up to a three O lead
and then start, you know, moving

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things around.
Yeah, Yeah.

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It might be good if we, yeah,
there is something I think some

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people play their weakest
lineup, maybe third quarter

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dude, if they're trying to get
everyone in.

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Yeah, because they're trying to,
they're looking towards the

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fourth quarter.
So we need to have Jackson in on

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offense on third quarter.
Yeah, just cause if they had

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that.
Yeah, if they have a weak goalie

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sub in, yeah, that's great.
Well, I hope none of those

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people listen to our podcast
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Or maybe this after after
everything.

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Gotcha.
Yeah man, 3rd through 5th grade

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dude.
Also, I know we're we're running

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a log on this band.
So this is like a whole episode

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of soccer.
Jack Jaden scored a goal from

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the half field circle.
Nice.

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From this and it's like a good
sized field.

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I mean, he wasn't trying to
score, he was trying.

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To see one of his games
sometimes.

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He played his.
I was so proud of him.

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He played his best game.
He's a third grader, 3rd through

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5th.
I think he's been a little like

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intimidate.
He's like a little smaller kid

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out there.
Yesterday was his first game.

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He like looked like a soccer
player.

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He was like receiving them all,
dribbling.

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He's looking up, making passes.
I'm like, oh, you.

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He might not be the best player
out there, but he looked like a

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soccer player.
He was running everywhere and he

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was trying to pass it like he
was doing so good passing.

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He was trying to like really get
a hold of this.

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The ball was like rolling
towards him, trying to kick up

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to a striker.
He got a hold of it from half

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field all over the goal.
He said it was a freak accident,

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but it was like our team playing
so bad.

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Like we had kids run off the
bench and come pick him up and

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it was like the goal of the year
is like so fun for him.

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So I think he got some
encouragement like, oh, now I

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really like soccer, you know, so
hoping we can.

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Good.
Was he not really loving soccer?

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No, he actually really liked it.
But now he like, loves.

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Soccer now.
He's really now.

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Now it's.
Like now he's a soccer.

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Player cause like he, this is
his first game.

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He was actually like not scared
like really 'cause it's like

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he's always got it in him.
He just is like a little bit

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timid played and we, our team
played so good.

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Like we had another guy on our
team score goal who was like

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been trying to put it together,
put together, finally got a

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goal.
So it's like we're coming

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together, but we still lost, but
we're coming together.

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It was good.
So anyway, adoption.

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I was thinking, you know, I
talked about my 100.

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Have you gotten your 100?
You've been tracking that.

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Nailing it and I'll tell you
this is the secret.

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I don't think this is cheating,
but I don't even know what

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number I'm on, but I count like
my key is like 30 minute

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workouts, like I'm not going for
like 2 hours killing myself.

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I, I, I log all my workouts and
it's like, I mean, they're

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nothing like too crazy.
Just like a few exercises and I

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count Saturn's play ultimate.
I'm like, oh, I've ran 3 1/2

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miles.
That's my count.

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But I've got I'm like I'm.
Like 200.

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Maybe not 200, but maybe 200.
Like maybe a lot.

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I've been slacking lately more
because I've been having some

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radial nerve pain.
Like I probably need a good

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chiropractor.
For that I I've been doing some

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like nerve gliding.
It's like killing me because it

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really bothers me.
Would you?

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Ever needle your own nerves?
I would not needle my I would I

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would not dry needle my nerves.
I'm trying to do what they call

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like nerve flossing or nerve
gliding and.

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Like that dance?
Yeah, I'm trying to get cooked

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'cause it's like, oh, when I
grip, it's like I've got my

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sensory nerve.
I don't know where my radial

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nerves impinge and it's really
impacting you.

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May have a verb right out of the
line.

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I know I'm hoping not.
That's what I'm actually I'm

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hoping.
Like a lot of times your radial

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nerve where it kind of wraps
around, it gets kind of impinged

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here.
I'm hoping it's here and not

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here.
That's like when I'm nervous.

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I've got scoliosis, I've got bad
posture.

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I'm like, oh.
I I don't know this to be a

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fact, I'm just repeating what I
was told, but I was told that

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like 80% of adjustment mishaps
come from PTS doing adjustments,

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not who said this.
Chiropractors doing adjustments.

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Unbelievable.
Is that is that, is that true?

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I don't believe it.
You don't believe it?

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I don't believe it.
He was, he was like, it's, you

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know, PTS, they get a little bit
of training, but they don't do

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it all the time believable.
And they don't, you know, and so

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they try to adjust some net
thing and.

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I I need to talk to I would say
this is not true.

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Well, I would say most of the
time I would.

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I would suspect it's not true
just for the fact that PTS

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really as a general rule won't
like.

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We've got rules like you've got
to pass like 5 or 6 benchmarks

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before we would adjust you and a
lot of those like it it the the

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risk for anything going wrong is
so so.

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Low so people you're saying PTS
never even do it?

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Well, not, not if you're on
certain medication, if you're,

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there's certain things that we,
if you have osteoporosis, we

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won't do chiropractors.
Your bones are weak.

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We're still, we're going to do
this left and right.

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But there's certain things
that's like, oh, we're not going

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to do it because if you do this,
you are at a higher risk for an

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event such as like your
vertebral artery or I mean,

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some, some of these things, you
know, very, very rare.

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I'm not saying chiropractors do
these things, but it's like, you

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know, it's all, it's all risk.
So we would do it way less, but

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I would think like the risk of
something going wrong would be

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way less.
I need to, I need to see the

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numbers.
This is.

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This is, Yeah.
Maybe once there's has the study

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been done?
Let's check on the studies.

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I don't know.
I don't know but this.

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Is classic classic chiropractor
not looking, not just not

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looking at the not looking at
hard data.

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He seemed fairly confident.
Yeah, I bet he can cure your

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diabetes and asthma too.
He's never claimed that.

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He's never claimed that, but you
know, he he has, he was saying,

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you know, if you want to come
work out with me, that's fine,

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but I give you stuff to do at
home.

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You can go work out at home.
Like, I'll adjust your, you know

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that.
And he was basically saying, you

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know, PTS just have you work out
in front of them, you know, so.

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Unbelievable what it's such.
A What I need to do is get y'all

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two in a room and just like let
you go go at it but.

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I think chiropractors are good,
but I think it's one of those

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things where it's like, I mean,
how could it?

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Someone just wants you in their
office once a week.

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I'm just like, you should you
should be able to do stuff going

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back to this point.
Like, yeah, do stuff on your own

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to maintain.
You don't need to see someone.

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Else, honestly, that's my
perspective.

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Like I see value in PTI, see
value in Cairo, I see value in

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ENT and gastro and you know,
some of your home stuff, like

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it's probably there's a little
bit of truth.

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Yeah, in all those types of
things.

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Yeah.
I just like poking, I know.

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I know, I know, and I know you
do too.

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And it's works, man.
Yeah, yeah, all.

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Right.
Well, we better adopt our way

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out of this.
Let's.

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Let's do it.
We're in this second, second

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week on adoption.
Let's go ahead and take it to

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the next level from the hearts
of the low country in South

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Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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All right, children of God, a
Biblical Theology of adoption.

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Week 2.
We're kind of covering this in

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Sunday school.
I missed this class.

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Great, this will be good so.
We could talk about.

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Yeah, especially because as I
was even, I'll get your

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perspective on this.
As I was speaking, I was really

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struggling with what kind of
language to use.

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Maybe we'll get to it later, but
do I want to be theologically

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precise, or do I want to try to
play?

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Into some of Tim's comments
today or no?

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I don't No, no, no, I don't
think so.

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And I don't, you probably don't
remember looking at that book.

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I wish I had that book here, but
like that diagram, I wish I had.

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I just showed that thing where
it was like union and Christ

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connected with adoption.
And anyway, 'cause that that's

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like the thing, all these
adoption books kind of put

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adoption closer to union with
Christ, where it's not like a

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extension of justification.
But anyway, it'll be good.

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So we, we will jump into it.
Hey, we could have used this for

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banter, but we won't.
We soccer has sometimes gotten

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terribly wrong.
But this lesson is all about,

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not all about, but emphasis on
God the Father as the purposeful

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planner of our adoption.
With the caveat that.

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When you look at any of these
passages, Ephesians 1, Galatians

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4, Romans 8, you can't really
isolate the Trinity.

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The trinity's involved, the
Trinity's in the lockstep.

446
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,200
It would be a mistake to say you
can.

447
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,120
We're just putting different
emphasis each week.

448
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,160
So classic text.
Ephesians 1.

449
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200
You know it, This is this is one
of those passages.

450
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280
I feel like we talked about it
not that long ago, probably when

451
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,680
we were doing one of these
Ephesians things with Paul,

452
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,880
right?
So, so fresh, fresh on the mind

453
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,760
and really what I think on our
notes, I had just a bunch of

454
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,480
different questions like the
what, the why, the when, the

455
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,880
how, all of these things like we
want to ask these questions of

456
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,600
the text.
What we were centering on, if

457
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,200
you can guess, was adoption to
himself as sons.

458
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,880
We were kind of focused on that
and looking at this passage

459
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,200
through that lens.
So I don't know, Michael, do

460
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,760
you?
Do you just want to take a deep

461
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,840
breath and just read all these?
Yeah, blessed be the God and

462
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,960
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who has blessed us in Christ

463
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,280
with every spiritual blessing in
the heavenly places, even as He

464
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,920
chose us in Him before the
foundation of the world, that we

465
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,920
should be holy and blameless
before Him and then love.

466
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,480
He predestined us for adoption
to Himself as sons through Jesus

467
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,840
Christ, according to the purpose
of His will, to the praise of

468
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,880
His glorious grace, which with
which He has blessed us in the

469
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,960
Beloved.
In Him we have redemption

470
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,840
through His blood, the
forgiveness of our trespasses,

471
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,680
according to the riches of His
grace which He lavished upon us

472
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,040
in all wisdom and insight,
making known to us the mystery

473
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,320
of His will, according to His
purpose which He set forth in

474
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,080
Christ as a plan for the
fullness of time to unite all

475
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,800
things in Christ, things in
heaven, and things on earth in

476
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,360
Him.
In Him we have obtained an

477
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:06,080
inheritance, having been
predestined according to the

478
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,760
purpose of Him, who are all
things according to the counsel

479
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,480
of His will.
Awesome.

480
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,200
Thank you, Michael.
The what we're talking about is

481
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:20,240
adoption as sons, The Who we're
trying to emphasize is the God

482
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,480
and father.
You're like my handwriting,

483
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,560
Michael.
It's a little bit a little bit

484
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,720
squiggly here.
The God and Father of our Lord

485
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,400
Jesus Christ.
That's kind of our starting

486
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,600
points and we just worked our
way through asking different

487
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720
questions and this is where we
start getting some trouble with

488
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,080
some of the theological
precision.

489
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,840
But asking, you know, you know,
talking about when were we

490
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,480
predestined for adoption to
himself for sons really looking

491
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,320
back to two verse 4.
He chose us in him before the

492
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:54,760
foundation of the world.
And I was borrowing this I I was

493
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,720
listening to this by John Piper.
He's got a lot of good resources

494
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,240
on adoption.
I don't even know this he he

495
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,120
adopted when he was like 50
years old, adopted a child.

496
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,800
Yeah.
And has he?

497
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,360
He's done some really good
sermon series.

498
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:12,000
He has a son who's kind of this
is Abraham.

499
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560
Biological, biological.
Abraham Piper, I think it's

500
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,760
Abraham.
It's like some biblical name

501
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,640
like that.
It's like cool, that guy is like

502
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000
on a mission.
I haven't heard of him lately,

503
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,080
but there was a time he's like
really a little little bit a

504
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,760
little bit tough.
But talking about when our

505
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,760
adoption was planned before the
foundation of this is where I

506
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,000
was going.
John Piper, you know, he looks

507
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,160
at this and he would say he's
got this great, great, you know,

508
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,240
little video of his sermon or
something.

509
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,160
He talks about adoption and he's
he puts it in a unique way.

510
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,360
He says adoption is greater than
the universe.

511
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,960
Adoption is before the universe
really adoption is really you

512
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,240
look at a passage like Ephesians
one.

513
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200
It's the purpose of the
universe, that creation.

514
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,160
So looking at the different
decrees, you know a lot of the

515
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,160
order to try to separate
creation from redemption.

516
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,400
That maybe creations the stage
where redemption happens.

517
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,920
I've never thought about that,
but that's good.

518
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:13,360
So all of this exist as a means
for him to adopt us into his

519
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,760
family.
Where when God thought to

520
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,000
himself, again, not theological,
precise language, you know, how

521
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,160
can I best glorify myself?
How do I bring myself immense

522
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,400
praise?
How do I do these things?

523
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,240
Well, I'm going to create a
world in which there will be

524
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040
filled with people that I can
adopt to myself.

525
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560
And so as I'm saying these
things, it's like, I think

526
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600
that's a good way to communicate
it, but it's always a little

527
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,440
bit, you know, weird when you're
trying to order the different

528
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
things God is thinking and you
know, before the foundation of

529
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,760
the world.
This is when he's planning your

530
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,960
adoption and these and these
kind of things.

531
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,600
To the praise of his glorious
grace.

532
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,080
That's right there.
Yeah, right, right there.

533
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,200
So weak.
That's great.

534
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,640
Leading into another question.
You know the the why?

535
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160
One of the wise Yeah, to the
praise and I'm embracing now to

536
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,760
the praise of his glorious
grace.

537
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200
Another why?
Well, thinking about that, in

538
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840
that same vein, he starts this
thing out blessed if we kept

539
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840
going.
Verse 12 and verse 14 also say

540
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,040
very similar things to his
praise to the praise of his

541
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,720
glorious grace.
The other why might be that you

542
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,800
should be holy and blameless
before him that you're adopt.

543
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,920
I like this framework of
adoption where it's not just a

544
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,160
transaction, a legal forensic
term, but it's always it's it's

545
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520
molding you.
You're changing by virtue of

546
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400
being adopted.
How did he adopt us?

547
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Another couple answers.
You know, I would say in love

548
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,280
the ESB would say in love the
NESB would K JV.

549
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,000
They put that period after love,
not before.

550
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,480
So they would say actually that
love modifies the other side of

551
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,840
it.
I think there's arguments both

552
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,800
ways, but I think in the love
not that it makes that.

553
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,240
Blameless before him.
In love.

554
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,600
In love, he burned out.
Like yeah, right, probably try

555
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,040
to find both and so 2 answers to
the how as well in love.

556
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,240
And the other answer is the
other how is through Jesus

557
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480
Christ kind of getting me what
Tim was saying.

558
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,840
I made a point last time that
you read this and it's like in

559
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Christ and him and him and him
and him.

560
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,320
It's like that's like the
Ephesians one thing that

561
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,400
everything is in Christ.
Sinclair Ferguson, he got a

562
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,880
shout out today.
Were you in the Rebecca?

563
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,000
Yes.
Apparently still alive.

564
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Still alive.
I talked to him last week.

565
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,680
Rob and him are tight.
He has this.

566
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,400
I, I like the way he says this
when he's talking about our

567
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720
union with Christ.
He's kind of provocative with

568
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,840
this, but he's trying to prove a
point.

569
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,720
But he would say Paul never
really thought about himself as

570
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,040
a as a Christian because Paul
didn't ever use that

571
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,280
terminology.
The word Christian was written

572
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,200
down once by Peter, twice by
Luke.

573
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,160
We don't really read that a lot
in our Bibles.

574
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,440
Was like a not necessarily a
favorable label.

575
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,880
Even like, yeah, well, maybe a
little bit pejorative where you

576
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440
read Scripture, the authors
would more frequently say we're

577
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,080
followers of the way or more
even than that.

578
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,480
Paul's particularly would say we
are in Christ.

579
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,720
So if you ask Paul, you know.
Or the called ones.

580
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,920
Are you a believer or the called
ones?

581
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,920
So so it's like, you know, even
even some terminology that

582
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,840
that's primarily kind of how
Paul thinks about believers that

583
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,440
they are in Christ.
You can't can't separate that.

584
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,200
I'm trying to think if there is
any other questions that I was

585
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,200
asking as I was kind of focusing
on three through 5 with with the

586
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,360
father didn't delve too much
farther, but I think I think

587
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,880
that was it.
And it got me thinking.

588
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,640
Maybe the listeners really want
a podcast on lapsarian views and

589
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,000
you'll look at and you'll look
at the logical order of decrees

590
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,960
like you know there's.
Probably people out there, yeah,

591
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
that just said, OK, I don't even
know what Zach's talking about.

592
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720
So what is lapsarian even?
What does that refer to?

593
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560
I I, I don't, I don't know if it
literally means like decrees or

594
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840
ordering of decrees.
That's always what I just like

595
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,880
equate with it.
It might not literally mean that

596
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,040
because I know lapsarian is not
like a normal word.

597
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,200
I don't know if that's like
Latin, Greek, whatever, you

598
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,560
know, like that goes into it,
but you can think of like the

599
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280
way an Armenian would or like
have things ordered.

600
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,120
You would think I always say the
word wrong, but like

601
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Amaryllidian would order things.
And then there's within the

602
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Reform framework, you might have
a infra Lapsarian view or a

603
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,680
supra lapsarian view, whether
you know, before the fall or

604
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880
after the fall.
How are you ordering things?

605
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,040
Did God create the world?
OK, then man's going to fall.

606
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Or was it like man's going to
fall and then I'm going to

607
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,920
redeem?
Like which order did redemption

608
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,240
the creation, redemption the
fall?

609
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,760
What order did these things
happen?

610
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,800
And you know, if you're supra,
you kind of lean, maybe hyper

611
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Calvin.
It's not really, but like,

612
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000
that's what people would say.
And we're not talking about

613
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360
necessarily chronological order.
Yeah, that's important.

614
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,840
That's very.
Important we're talking about

615
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,200
like which one like did God
purpose to do this?

616
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,200
And then so the other things
kind of fell.

617
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560
Yeah, that, that's beautiful.
Because I think if it was not

618
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200
logical, we could probably solve
this a lot faster.

619
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,160
We're much like the Ordo
Salutis.

620
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
It's like logically ordering it
at a certain time.

621
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
And I'm trying, I'm blanking.
Maybe I might look this up

622
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440
because I'm blanking.
But there's like there.

623
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Yeah.
It's creation, redemption, fall.

624
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,040
There's probably 1.
In there old earth creationism

625
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,880
is in there but but there's
really four and these four

626
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720
different orderings of how you
would do these Lapserian.

627
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,400
And what does, what do Thomas
say?

628
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Because to me, this all sounds a
little bit like my my first

629
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:34,320
blush is as given my training at
SES Southern Avenge at All

630
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Seminary, where I am a 3/4
tomist.

631
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Hell yeah, there you go.
There you go, they would say.

632
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:48,600
I I think we would say God acts
singly from eternally, like

633
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,040
you're trying to split things
apart.

634
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Yeah, and that's what you can't
really.

635
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,080
That, you know, God sees this
perfect plan.

636
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,800
It's his His will to do, you
know that.

637
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,200
And he just, you know, makes it
happen, you know?

638
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Yeah, and, and honestly, it's
probably why I you can parse

639
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800
this stuff out like too much,
like, who really cares?

640
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800
These are the decrees if you do
hear God's decree to create the

641
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,400
world for his glory, God's
decree to permit the fall, God's

642
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,480
decree to elect certain fallen
people to salvation by grace in

643
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,480
Christ and God's decree to sin
Christ and the Spirit to save

644
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120
the elect.
That that's infralapsarianism,

645
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,880
which what most Reformed people
would probably say in this camp

646
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,640
versus supra, which would say
God's decree to predestine the

647
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,000
elect to eternal life first and
then create the world, then

648
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,640
permit the fall and then send a
sun.

649
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840
So that's the difference.
Like Jonathan Edwards.

650
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,400
No, I will prop my heartstrings
go out to the second one more

651
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,880
than the first one.
Go out to the second one, Supra.

652
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,200
Supra.
Yeah, there you go.

653
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,680
That's like that's like Jonathan
Edwards.

654
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,480
He's like Supra.
And people shy away from it

655
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,240
because I think they don't like
it like they don't like it

656
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,480
versus a lot of people.
If you're reading, reading

657
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,080
everything is like they feel
comfortable with infra because

658
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,000
they they think it's softer.
Let me see the language here.

659
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,200
They like election logically
occurring after the decree of

660
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,880
the fall versus like I purposely
am only saving some people like

661
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,360
you already know you know what I
mean not that it matters that

662
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:25,200
much, but compare that with the
Armenian order would be create

663
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,960
the world.
Then they would say God's

664
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,360
foreknowledge of the fall, then
God decreed descend to sun, then

665
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,080
God's decree to provide a memes
then God's foreknowledge it it's

666
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,720
much more elaborate.
You have to cut all these steps.

667
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,440
It's not as simple and then the,
you know, and morality in order

668
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,280
is kind of like this this, this
middle, middle grounds between

669
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,040
the two, but you know, anyway.
Yeah, I, I'm comfortable with

670
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,400
saying God is going from, you
know, his, his primary purpose

671
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840
was create a people that would
be his own.

672
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,000
And how was he going to do that?
Well, he's got a create a people

673
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,480
that's every single one of those
going to be his own.

674
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,640
Maybe not.
Roman says explicitly that some

675
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,120
were created as vessels of honor
to show his mercy.

676
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Some were created as vessels of
wrath to show his righteousness.

677
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,760
And we don't like that.
I don't like that it's it's

678
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440
uncomfortable, but in one sense
I don't like it.

679
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,400
In another sense I have to like
it because that's what God

680
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
purposed to do.
Like I have to go, yes, God is

681
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,680
just he is going to.
And, and if you've ever kind of

682
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,240
rejoice some, some bit when a
criminal has gotten his just

683
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,160
desserts, like a murderer gets
sent caught and sent to prison

684
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
and he's executed and you're
like, yeah, he got what he was

685
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,240
coming to him, then it's that
same sense that you should be

686
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,320
able to rejoice in hell because
there's criminals getting what

687
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,920
they're just deserts.
It's just the fact that, you

688
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520
know, all of us are, you know,
deserve that, that makes it

689
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,200
uncomfortable.
So I'm very fine.

690
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320
I'm very comfortable with this,
this supra version of that.

691
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Is that where you would land or
do you think you're you're on

692
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,320
the softer side of infra?
You know, you know, it's, it's

693
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520
funny you read things because
I'm I'm always just curious,

694
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,960
like, where do people land?
And I was like, I was looking, I

695
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
was, I was doing this in ChatGPT
and I was like, hey, read this,

696
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360
you know, sermon by someone like
look at these, look at these

697
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,600
things and there's conflicting.
It's hard to, I think if you're,

698
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,560
you know, it's hard for chat to
discern because if you're

699
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240
expositing scripture, there
might be an emphasis in one, you

700
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,440
know what I mean?
And so they're like, well, in

701
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,080
this place he's infra, in this
place he's super, you know what

702
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,560
I mean?
And I think that's probably the.

703
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440
It's hard to.
It's hard because it's probably

704
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,600
flows out of 1 decree that has
these multiple facets, you know,

705
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,000
but I, if, if I had to order, I
think I would put, you know, the

706
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040
decree to, to call people as
home.

707
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,400
That's like the primary.
Primary.

708
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Yeah.
Yeah, I I can get behind that.

709
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,080
I did not talk about first.
John 31 Stephen Emily Bostick

710
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,800
shared about foster care.
Were you in there for that or

711
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,240
you missed that?
You know, you should listen back

712
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,760
to it.
It was really.

713
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,720
Good.
Yeah, it'll show up on.

714
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,639
That's right.
Yeah, November 9th is when this

715
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,679
one, that one will hit, Yeah.
Great, but that was really our

716
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:19,520
our time in Ephesians 1 and and
really stepping back as we go

717
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,600
through adoption, seeing these
parallels, like one of the

718
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,679
parallels is, you know, in most
cases, adoption is seriously

719
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,360
planned.
Your adoption in Christ very

720
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520
seriously planned, like before
the foundation of the world.

721
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,239
It's not, it's what it what it's
not is it's not a Plan B where

722
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,760
God created the world, people
sinned, then he scrambled and

723
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
thought, what am I going to do?
Oh, I can redeem this, I'll make

724
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520
this right.
That's like not what happened.

725
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,480
That reactionary kind of thing
where, where this was, I like

726
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,320
the way John Piper says this
where it's like he created a

727
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,320
world for people that would
honor and glorify him that he

728
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,400
could adopt.
And a lot of these passages,

729
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000
we're looking at Ephesians 1,
Galatians 4, Romans 8, and many

730
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,160
other parts of Scripture very
familiar to us.

731
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,960
It's just like maybe like a
slightly different angle that

732
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000
we're, you're just kind of
thinking adoption.

733
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,800
Because I think a lot of times
you can think of all these

734
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
things and you can think about
adoption, but it's not like a

735
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,360
primary driver.
I don't want to make too much of

736
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,600
adoption, but you know.
Yeah.

737
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520
You were talking about Plan B.
Yeah.

738
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,000
And I think that that might be a
good contrast because not all

739
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,360
horizontal adoptions.
Are Plan B that's a good

740
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,520
contrast.
Yeah, could be.

741
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,640
You know that's right.
For various reasons, you can't

742
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,240
have biological kids.
And so we can't have biological

743
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:38,240
kids.
Let's adopt where that's not

744
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,360
saying anything wrong with,
Right?

745
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Right.
That's probably right.

746
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,960
Mainly yours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

747
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,440
That's resonates with me very
much.

748
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,880
But the the contrast not a Plan
B for.

749
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,240
God not a Plan B.
God, from eternity.

750
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,400
Oh, that's good.
I'm gonna pull you out.

751
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,720
I'm gonna make you my own.
So that's.

752
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:52,880
No, that, no, that's really
good.

753
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
And I like as the series goes,
like pulling some of those

754
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,560
through lines out where it's
very similar here, not similar

755
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,840
here, but it kind of helps you
kind of see these different

756
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840
things.
So I I like, I like that a lot.

757
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,280
Really, really good.
Trying to think if there's

758
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,120
anything else in here we hit on.
I think that's the big stuff.

759
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,920
The take away was, you know, if
these things are true, you can

760
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,400
rest in the father's plan that
if if your adoption was decided

761
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,960
before the foundation of the
world, then really it it'll

762
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960
happen before you exist.
It really emphasizes grace.

763
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600
You know, it's like it's not
really what you're bringing to

764
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,880
the table, right?
Rejoice.

765
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,880
It was in love.
It's out of his overflowing

766
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,800
love.
You know, you can read a passage

767
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480
like Ephesians 1, you see the
sovereignty of God very clearly.

768
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,040
You can either take great
comfort in that or you can be

769
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,760
very uncomfortable by that.
What I like about Ephesians 1 is

770
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,280
that God's sovereignty is not a
cold hard determinism, but it's

771
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,320
like a warm affectionate
adoption.

772
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Like it's like connected.
It's like not in this cold

773
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,720
robotic way that people, I think
the opposite side, it's like,

774
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,320
no, actually all of this is very
positive.

775
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,160
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

776
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,360
It's like, I like how that's all
connected.

777
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200
And then if our God is
unshakable, we can rely on our

778
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,800
Father's faithfulness because
our God's unchanging,

779
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,360
unshakable.
Even though your circumstance

780
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,680
may shift, like your adoption,
that's like a settled thing.

781
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,160
It's irreversible.
It's permanent.

782
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560
And our response to the praise
of his glorious grace to be holy

783
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,520
and blameless like this is this
is the direction we should be

784
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,440
going.
That's great.

785
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,240
In light of it, that's great.
Oh, and then I was talking about

786
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,360
the NBA gambling scandal
scandal.

787
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,160
I, I, I, I tried to trap people.
I was like anyone here, like a

788
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560
major, like sports gambler.
No one raised their hand.

789
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,320
No one.
I was like Grammy, You got a

790
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,920
parlay on the Eagles game later
today.

791
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,280
She did not say anything.
I did not say that I really

792
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:40,120
wanted to be like Lori Summers.
You got the money line like but.

793
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,600
But if you are in the gambling.
Right.

794
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,480
If you're not, you hear this
term, this phrase, the fix is

795
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,600
in.
It's what you normally say when

796
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,600
you're playing the Patriots and
the refs are paid off, right?

797
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,160
You know, the game is really.
Like that, that's what people

798
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,880
say, even though it's not not
the case.

799
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Going back to the Patriots,
you're talking about Gronk being

800
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,440
better than Kelsey, but there's
other Tyreek Hill.

801
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,400
He had other weapons other than
just Kelsey.

802
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Tyra Kill was a force.
In the day, yeah.

803
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,800
So Kelsey and Hill, Yeah.
OK, Yeah.

804
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,960
There you go all.
Right back on, back on target.

805
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,840
The fix is in.
That's like an A negative

806
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,440
phrase.
Your team's losing, the game's

807
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,120
rigged.
The the deck is stacked against

808
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,440
you.
It's like you can't do anything

809
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,840
about it unless it's God the
Father's fix.

810
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
That that's right.
Your adoption, we redeem it.

811
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,840
That's right, the fix isn't.
Like we know how the book ends

812
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,200
and and you can rest assured
that like man, the outcome is

813
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,280
decided.
That's really good news.

814
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,920
And so anytime you can work in
like a gambling analogy in

815
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,760
Sunday school, you got to take
it right.

816
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,280
I should do a parlay each week.
For a small amount of money that

817
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560
the Pats are going to win and
the Chiefs are going to lose and

818
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,120
just see what it what it you
know you know what is it you

819
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,720
know 10 bucks and see what it
pays back see what happens man

820
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,000
you know there you.
Go Well, that's week #2 you

821
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,960
know, we've got maybe a, a
handful more to go here, but I

822
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,320
got, I got nothing else that you
got.

823
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,240
Anything you want to add,
Michael?

824
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,720
Maybe we should talk about
soccer some more.

825
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,400
I love.
It oh, that's so good.

826
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,800
Well, that that's our take.
Thanks for.

827
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Listening to Take 2.
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828
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
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829
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,760
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