Christology | Fully God and Fully Man

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Michael, I like, I like.
Are they some new threads you

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got on?
They are.

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I don't know if the camera can
see these.

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Let me see.
Oh, oh, I don't know if I Oh,

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OK, alright.
So yeah, it says praise Jesus in

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English.
You want.

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Me to read the Hebrew.
Yeah, go ahead and read the

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Hebrew.
I'll read the Hebrew for you.

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It says praise Jesus in Hebrew
as well.

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Yeah, so I got this shirt from
this guy on Instagram and his at

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is at JIUBEL.
I I think it's AGU Bell, JU

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bell.
Not Jezebel.

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Not Jezebel.
Yeah, that's good.

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But Chloe watches him too,
sometimes.

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But like the first video I saw,
it wasn't like this softball

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kind of question, but it wasn't,
you know, one of the more

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difficult questions, but it was,
you know, a a kind of a middle

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road question about
Christianity.

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It's like someone will ask and
he'll say that's a good

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question.
The next thing you know, like he

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is rapping.
It's a prepared rap and answer

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and the rap sounds good.
I'm ready for this.

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Can you do it?
Rendition No.

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OK.
Maybe I can link to to one of

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the videos and it's
theologically accurate.

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I was like, OK, that's cool.
And then there was a couple and

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I think one was about
cosmological argument, one was

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about.
Now, now, Michael's like you got

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my attention.
Yeah, one was about, you know,

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if.
Craig Cokel, No.

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One was about if the if the
universe had a had to have a

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creator who created God.
Oh yeah, and you know, one was

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about the problem of evil.
One, just one was about the use

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of alcohol and like all of them.
I I mean, just sound nuanced

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raps and you know, you only have
like a minute 30.

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So it's just like all the all
the time.

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And I was like, Oh, this is
great.

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And he ends everyone with this
little video of him doing the

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gritty and saying praise Jesus
and link in the bio 'cause you

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can buy a praise Jesus shirt.
So I thought that should be

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good.
I like that rap is one of those

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mediums that if you can do it
well, you can just cram so much

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good stuff in a tight space and
it that that that's really cool.

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I'm I'm looking forward to
checking checking this guy out

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A.
Little bit more and you're

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wearing your shirt.
Yeah, this shirt is same thing.

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It's really hard to keep the mic
and show the shirt at the same

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time.
I got this from, I don't know

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where I should shout them out,
but I don't know what it what it

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was It it, it came from the
coach of the Celtics, who?

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That's a good team, the Celtics,
right, Man, that is a just a

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solid.
I'm a Lakers fan as you.

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Can tell from the coach and team
I.

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Don't like the Celtics, but I
saw him wearing this shirt when

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they won the NBA Finals.
He's been saying some things.

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I was like, oh, I can, I can get
behind this guy.

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And I saw on social media
whoever makes this shirt.

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I feel so bad.
I don't, I look up my e-mail

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while I'm talking.
They were having a sale.

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They're basically like, oh, you
know, Coach Missoula's wearing

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this shirt.
We're gonna make this shirt $6.

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They want everyone to buy it.
And it was really inexpensive

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and you know, it's this place is
called Beacon Threads.

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Beacon threads.
That's nice Beacon threads.

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And they were saying they're
wearing, they're wearing our

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shirt.
And, and so anyway, that's good.

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We got our shirts on.
Yeah, yeah.

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So yours, if you can't read it,
it says.

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But first let me thank God.
So that's good.

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That's good.
Yeah.

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Good stuff.
And, and today we are not

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talking about T-shirts, but
we're talking about some

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foundational tops.
We're talking about Jesus.

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That's right.
So hey, very timely.

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We're in our foundations class,
going through different

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foundational topics, and so
we're going to get into our

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first session on Christology.
So let's take it to the next

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level from the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
Got a big question for you?

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OK.
Who is Jesus?

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Wow.
Well, there's a guy.

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I shouldn't make that joke, you
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You know, have you seen the
Hispanic jokes?

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Like, do you know Jesus?
They're like, they're like,

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yeah, he's right there.
Like no, no, no, no.

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No different guy it on.
On its surface, it kind of

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sounds like on one hand an easy
question, but on the other hand

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it can be challenging and many
people have gone astray

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answering this question.
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And so if you want the like the
best theological response to

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this question in the easy
understand format, go to

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YouTube, type in Totally God,
Totally Man by Sovereign grace

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kids music.
They have this great song.

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You've heard it before.
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And it talks about like, you
know, he, the, the God who

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created all the heavens, had to
learn to write it.

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His name, had to learn how to
tie his shoes and stuff.

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And there may be, I don't know
that he had to tie shoes like we

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do, but I think you get it's
putting in context with us like.

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But like why is he wearing
converse and we all have

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sandals?
Like this is anachronistic.

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That's right, yeah.
But I think the overarching idea

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is that he is man and he is God,
which is it's tough for us to

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wrap our minds around.
Yeah, and, and, and sometimes

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it's, it's just good to stick
with some, some good old

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fashioned scripture and, and
some easy deductions from there

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because, you know, it's it's
foundational, but it is amazing.

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It's almost like the more you
talk and the more you try to

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figure it out at some level,
it's like, what what are we

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saying?
We're going too far in One

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Direction.
So I'm hoping that this podcast

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we can set set some clear
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I like that that overarching
100% got 100% man, that's a good

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place to land.
And we'll kind of develop that a

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little bit more.
So maybe a good place to start

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is with the part that he's 100%
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Jesus is God.
Do we find that in Scripture,

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Michael?
I'm he was almost, I say almost

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because he's sovereign.
But it, you know, from a human

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perspective, he was almost
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made statements that they
considered the Jews considered

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blasphemous because he was
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Yeah, I, I think the divinity of
Jesus is so much easier to wrap

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your mind, not wrap your mind
around, but it, it just to

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demonstrate it's assumed in
Scripture like you read, we'll

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talk about the eternity later,
but it's, it just kind of

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assumed that that Jesus is God.
You know, Jesus is referred to

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as Lord over and over Old
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When you see Lord, that is
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It's it's making these
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Here's just a few verses.
We could list so many more.

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But Acts 1036 says that As for
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preaching good news of peace
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of all Romans 10 Paul writes, if
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Jesus is Lord and you believe in
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from the dead, you will be
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So so these verses are just kind
of ascribing him as Lord, which

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you would you would naturally
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Just a couple more here 1st
Corinthians 12 says therefore I

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want you to understand that no
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God can ever say Jesus is
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one can say Jesus is Lord except
for the Holy Spirit that when

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you say that the Holy Spirit is
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that claim.
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Philippians 2.
Every tongue will confess that

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Jesus Christ is Lord to the
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And in John eight kind of
getting to what to what Michael

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was saying Jesus was saying
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I say to you before Abraham was
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And their response in verse 59
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throw at him, that Jesus hit
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temple.
Yeah, and there's a couple of

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other places in John where Jesus
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He'll say these I am statements
and to me I still connect them.

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I think he's declaring his
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I am the door.
I am the way, the truth and

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life.
I am the bread.

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I am the Yeah, it's.
It's hard to read those and not

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ascribe some sort of major
significance that he's trying to

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make a point and even even read
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It's like John One.
It's like connecting, you know,

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Genesis, God spoke, let there be
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flesh and dwell among us.
It's like these connections,

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he's they're clearly pointing to
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Yep and and then there's also
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I am.
And lots of times your

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translations will add he, you
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If it's NASB, other translators
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know that that he's not there.
So I'm thinking specifically of

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1 examples.
When he's in a garden and the

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army shows up or the guard show
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It's not clear to me whether
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guards plus Romans or not.
Different translations deal with

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it differently.
But we know there's armed people

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that show up and they ask, you
know, we're seeking Jesus and

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Nazareth.
And he says I am.

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Your translation may add the
word he, but that's not there.

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And they fall back because of
the force of the statement.

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And so, yeah, So I, I don't know
how you get around the fact that

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he is claiming to be Lord.
And just in case you're still

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someone's out there struggling
with this, you know, these

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titles are applied to Jesus,
that he's the Son of God, that

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he is the Christ, he's the
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a the Savior, the holy one, the
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These are all and more titles
given, given to Jesus.

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Jesus performs all the actions
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He creates, he redeems, he
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He does several other things.
And one that's not on this list

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I would add is he accepts
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That's a big one.
That's huge because he can't be

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good and accept worship unless
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Because when angels, you know,
there's times when angels show

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up and that presence is so
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People like fall down and the
angels like get up, get up.

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I'm not God.
I'm a I'm, I'm a creation.

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I'm a creature just like you,
but there are people who get

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down and worship Jesus and he
accepts that worship, whether

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it's, you know, the woman that's
wiping her his his feet with her

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hair or Thomas at the end of
John who falls down and says, my

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Lord and my God, you know,
throughout there's different

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places where he accepts worship.
Yeah, no, that, that is so good.

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And as you just read the New
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it's almost like the author's
just like assuming that they're

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taking it for granted in a way,
just assuming the reader's going

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to know this.
It just the way it reads.

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You read something, you're like,
wow, didn't develop that.

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You just kind of said this about
Jesus, that that's clearly the

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case.
And my understanding is looking

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through church history, really,
so humanity is the harder part

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to understand because he's doing
miracles, doing all these

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things.
You kind of can see that he's

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got.
But is he really man?

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Or is it just a hybrid version
or something that it's almost

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harder to wrap your mind around
him being man.

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But there's there's good
biblical support showing that he

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was 100% truly man.
I'll read a couple of these.

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If you want to read something to
Michael, feel free.

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And I don't want to not just,
you know, beat, beat a dead

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horse, I said earlier, Michael
said, like, you know, beat a

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living horse you.
Know maybe it's more humane to

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beat a dead horse than a living
horse.

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First John 4 John writes by this
you know the Spirit of God.

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Every spirit that confesses that
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flesh is from God and every
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that Jesus is not from God.
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Antichrist which you heard was
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already.
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God came to the world as a man,
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First John, another first John
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the Gospel of John.
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flesh and dwelt that were
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have seen his glory, the glory
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Father, full of grace and truth.
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to be made like his brothers in
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become a merciful and faithful
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God to make propitiation for the
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able to help those who are being
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He could only do these things if
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You want to read a couple of
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Sure, yeah, John 46, Jacob's
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wearied as he was from his
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well.
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So God doesn't weary, but in his
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Matthew 2436 But concerning the
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even the angels of heaven, nor
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we talk about we would.
This is always kind of a head

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scratcher, like how does this
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But we would say in the canosis
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privileges of the divinity.
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himself, like the humbling, the
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Condon condescending.
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What's that word I'm?
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condescending.
It just so condescension is so

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weird.
We don't say.

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That yeah, I was trying to
condensation and cond, cond

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condescend.
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to us.
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privileges.
But, you know, so speaking out

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of his humanity, he can say he's
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John 1133 When Jesus saw her
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come with her also weeping, he
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greatly troubled.
And he said, Where have you laid

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him?
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and see.
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So Jesus doesn't have
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Yeah, I.
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I was going to say the same
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You beat me to it.
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To say yeah, so the Jews said
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looking up others like.
So if I were putting this list

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together, there's I think it's
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Matthew, but talks about when he
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as a sacrifice.
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body.
It's hard, you know, if he were

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truly have a body, then he's got
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Yeah, that that's great.

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So from Scripture we we see both
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I I think that's that's pretty
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verses, more verses.
I think the question is how do

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we make sense of this because it
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How do we articulate this in a
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and not just say heresy and
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And I think I do want to make
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Maybe we have done this.
I think there is a difference of

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believing something that's a
heresy and you're maybe not

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heretical versus like actively
teaching this.

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And I embrace it and I totally
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Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so there was a time.

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So I just recount my, you know,
I thought I was saved at four,

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thought I was saved at 9, truly
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I started really digging into
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maybe a modalist in my thinking
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my eyes had been open to how
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his divinity.
And I was like this man who

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walked on earth 2000 years ago
was is truly God.

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Like you hear that in Sunday
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when it, when you really go,
this is the creator of all the

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earth.
That was who he was.

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That's why I'm putting my faith
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And so you you talk about verses
where he says your father and I

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are one and stuff like that.
So you can overemphasize stuff,

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but when I was corrected, I'd
go, oh, OK, yeah, I can't murr

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the distinct, you know, blur the
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you know.
So Jesus is God, the Father is

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God, but they're not the same
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But so you can have some, I'd
say you can flirt with some

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heresies, but if you have a
saving relationship with Christ,

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when you see evidence from the
word that helps you go oh I was

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misunderstanding this.
Your thoughts and beliefs should

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have realigned to that.
That's right, that's right,

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because I think some people
might get nervous being like,

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oh, you know, maybe the
trinities like XY and Z and

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they're just trying to
rationalize it, but they they

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they're not say they're not
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No, I think my way is better.
It's, you know, kind of being

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corrected by the word.
I think you're, you're right.

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And I and I think if you have
ever found yourself saying I

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struggle with eternity or I
struggle with the person of

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Christ, you are not alone.
And there were a lot of people

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over many centuries in the early
church that felt that way and

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they had to get together And
they're like all these different

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teachings are out there.
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councils, which, you know,
different denominations, except

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what I don't usually after that
we're like, yeah, definitely

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crazy.
First seven, there's some

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agreement, you know, maybe some
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four in some way.
These first seven did address

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the nature of Christ in some
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So you're in good company.
And and really what what brought

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it about where they felt like
they needed to meet was some of

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some of this errant teachings
out there that that, OK, we

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don't feel comfortable with
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We're going to declare this a
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So maybe we can go through a
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What is wrong to kind of arrive
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Yeah.
And I think it's important to

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note before we dive into there,
and we've made this point

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before, but just because the,
you know, we have one of these

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councils and this doctrine gets
kind of like stamped with

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approval, doesn't mean they
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oftentimes it's the false

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doctrine that gets out there
that requires a church to come

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together and go, all right, this
is false, right?

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We're OK, all right, we're all
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That's false, that's bad.
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hundreds of years afterwards.
It's because there was

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antagonism by false ideas out
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address.
Yeah, no, that, that is a great

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kind of disclaimer at the front
'cause you can get it twisted

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and your whole kind of paradigm
you're looking through is not,

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is not right.
So we'll run through some of

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these maybe quickly here.
The first heresy I want to talk

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about is Dosatism.
Basically said Jesus, it didn't

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really have a physical body.
It was just this, this illusion.

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It seemed that way.
It really was.

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It was kind of a forerunner to
Gnosticism.

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It's really a lot of what first
John's kind of addressing big

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picture is, you know, flesh
body.

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It's that this stuff is bad.
The physical world is bad.

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I'm spiritual.
That's good.

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That's what we're striving for.
We're trying to almost like melt

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away from this physical state,
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No, that's good.
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Romans would kind of grow to
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their base belief anyways.
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all these different levels, kind
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ideas and, you know,
Neoplatonism.

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That's right.
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So they're you can see how they
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and try to blend them in
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Yeah, that that makes a lot of
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One of the other heresies was
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Uticus.
This heresy, Some people call it

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Uticanism.
Uticanism.

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I don't know these words.
Your guess is better than mine,

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not not as good.
Better than mine.

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That's great.
And, and Uticus error was that

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Jesus only had one nature in
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speaking, basically saying, OK,
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human.
And we're going to kind of mix

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them together and there's one
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Of melding of the two.
A melding.

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So it's not a divine nature and
it's not a human nature.

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It's like this other nature
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melding.
Demigod.

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Exactly right.
You might, you can also see

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maybe where this, some of this
thinking would come about.

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There's some, you know,
precedent for this and and some

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Roman Greek kind of stuff.
I think I read it was the nature

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was theanthropic Theo anthropic
man, human.

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But really when you do that, you
take away from both of these

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natures.
What?

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What do you get?
It's like it's not really human,

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not really God.
It's something in the middle.

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We'll talk about it later.
You know, part of getting this

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right is that there are
implications that that do

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matter.
So that that's kind of on when

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people talk about, you know, the
natures of Christ, they kind of

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center on this guy Eudicus and
this other guy who invented

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Nestorianism, Nestorius, I think
he went kind of the other way

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that Jesus deity and humanity
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That one person, it's two
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they they act independently,
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Yeah, I got accused of being an
historian when I was talking

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about Mary being the mother of
God or not, because I was like,

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she's the mother of his
humanity.

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You're like, you're dividing the
persons.

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Like no, it's one person, but
two natures.

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Yeah, that's the interesting
thing that they talk about

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because I think when we were
talking about this, we were

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really going to bat for for his
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Like we were focused on that.
Danny, he's going through the

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Sunday school class.
I was really trying to say,

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trying to preserve Christ's
divinity and he was saying, you

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know, some of these things.
So it's, you know, different

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emphasis, different angles.
And that's funny.

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You know when you when you start
calling people historians, you

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know you're.
You know you're, you're really,

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I'm not dividing the persons.
It's one person, one center of

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consciousness, 2 natures.
The human nature came from Mary.

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The divine nature came from God.
Because it's a it's a problem if

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you say the divine age, you can
remember we talked about this.

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Yeah.
I'm like, I just can't wrap my

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mind around it.
So really, Eudaikus Nestorian,

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these are like the two sides
that that were prominent couple

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other views that might be worth
talking about is this guy.

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Why does everyone have the
craziest names?

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Apolloneris had a view.
This was I think a little bit

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early on, maybe a couple 100
years before the council, but

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believed Christ was fully human
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That the divine Lagos replaced
the soul that that Jesus, it was

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a divine soul and a human body.
So kind of similar to it's not

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quite melding, but it's like
you're taking different parts

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and some parts are divine, some
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monothelete view that Jesus had

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a complete human nature except
for his will.

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You know, his will was the same.
His will was the will of the

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Father.
And, and basically this boiled

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down, Jesus only having one will
and not, you know, if you have

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00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,280
two natures, you're gonna have
two wills.

449
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520
They, those kind of go together.
Maybe we can talk about that a

450
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,160
little bit more because I think
that's confusing.

451
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,720
What's a person with wills and
natures?

452
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,560
Like what do these things mean?
Because the correct view is that

453
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,800
Jesus has two natures, 2 wills,
one person.

454
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yeah.

455
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,600
And I was just going to say the
So you're saying Jesus has two

456
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,280
wills?
Yeah, I would say Jesus has two

457
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,040
wills, correct.
I don't know about that.

458
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,240
Because didn't he?
You.

459
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,920
You don't think his human will?
Maybe we should.

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,800
We can do some back.
We can do some checking here.

461
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,520
Yeah.
And this is one of those things

462
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600
where we could go, we could go
look at some people who thought

463
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,200
a lot about this and see, Yeah.
But I've always assumed that he

464
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,600
had one will one intellect 1
instead of emotion.

465
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240
One will, yeah.
Nature doesn't have a will.

466
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,400
Correct.
OK, nature's don't have wills.

467
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,840
Interesting.
So.

468
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,400
So he's one person.
He has one will now.

469
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,200
Cuz I would say he.
Cuz you could see like like in

470
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,640
the that's.
Like the go to.

471
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,520
Yeah, like you.
Had to submit this.

472
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,160
Is what I'd like to have.
According to us.

473
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,200
But I'm going to submit to the
will of Father.

474
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,720
But it's you know, and so is the
will of Jesus, the human to not

475
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840
go through it.
But the will of the Holy Spirit

476
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,240
or the will of God the Son is
for him to go through it because

477
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,120
this we know it's going to be in
In Sync with.

478
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Yeah, I, I, I probably would say
that.

479
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,480
So would you and, and and we can
talk about this on the Trinity

480
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,920
podcast.
You would say three persons in

481
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,120
the Trinity, three separate
wills and they're just in

482
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,880
harmony.
So these are good things.

483
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,720
We can we can talk about this
like, but that's my.

484
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Understanding I am willing to be
corrected though if if I

485
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,200
misunderstanding because a lot
of like and we're about to talk

486
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,600
about the Caledonian creed and
really almost the Caledonian

487
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,160
creed like draws a box around it
and it's.

488
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320
Like Yep, that's right.
This is what you, this is what

489
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,080
you can say.
This is what you can't say, but

490
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,400
it doesn't go in and like give
you a lot of details about how

491
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,240
it works together.
And that's what we're striving

492
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,560
to understand is like, how does
this all?

493
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,920
Work together and sometimes you
get get into trouble when you

494
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,200
try to try to try to nail down
every everything here.

495
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,640
So we'll get into the
Calcedonian tree.

496
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,760
This happened in 451 AD met in
Caledon, Asia Minor.

497
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840
I feel like modern day Turkey
just go to you hear that a lot.

498
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,240
Yeah, modern day Turkey, you
know.

499
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,080
And they address all sorts of
things.

500
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,760
We won't get into it, but really
at the center of this, what

501
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,080
we're going to talk about has to
do with Christology.

502
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,000
How, how do we define this, this
person of Christ?

503
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,480
So want to go ahead and read it?
Sure you want just the Creed

504
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,920
itself.
Just.

505
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,680
The creed.
That's great, yeah.

506
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Therefore, following the Holy
Fathers, we all with one accord,

507
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,560
teach men to acknowledge one and
the same Son, our Lord Jesus

508
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,080
Christ, at once complete in
Godhead and complete in manhood,

509
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,880
Truly God and truly man,
consisting also of a reasonable

510
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,160
soul and body of 1 substance
with the Father as regards to

511
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Godhead, and at the same time of
1.

512
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Substance with us as regard as
regards His manhood, like us in

513
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,120
all respects apart from sin, As
regards His Godhead, begotten of

514
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,320
the Father before the ages, but
yet as regards His manhood,

515
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,880
begotten for US men and for our
salvation of Mary the Virgin,

516
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:13,760
the God Bearer, one and the same
Christ Son, Lord, only begotten,

517
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,640
recognized in two natures,
without confusion, without

518
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,520
change, without division,
without separation.

519
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,040
The distinction of nature's
being in no way annulled by the

520
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,520
union, but rather the
characteristics of each nature

521
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,880
being preserved and coming
together to form one person and

522
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,760
one subsistence, not as parted
or separated into two persons,

523
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,800
but one in the same Son, and
only begotten God.

524
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,280
The Word Lord Jesus Christ, even
as the prophets from earliest

525
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,320
times spoke of Him and our Lord
Jesus Christ Himself taught us

526
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,360
and the creed of the Fathers has
handed down to us.

527
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800
So a lot, a lot of words I would
recommend go, go check it out

528
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,520
and we'll kind of get into some
specifics here.

529
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,880
But really from this creed we
get this term hypostatic union,

530
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320
I think from some of the Greek
words that would mention

531
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,400
subsistence.
And there I think some of the

532
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080
that some of this can be
confusing when you take these

533
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Greek words.
I always think about, you know,

534
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
the passive, the passive
suffering of Christ or whatever,

535
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760
like is this passive?
But I think that comes from a

536
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Greek word.
I don't know some of the

537
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,600
theological terms.
We're probably not talking about

538
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,920
hypostasis a ton in this in this
way outside of this context, but

539
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,240
that that's the term we get
talking about Christ being fully

540
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480
man, fully God.
And I think maybe a good place

541
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,920
to hang out or on these negative
statements to help us, you know,

542
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,880
to find what, what, what, what
doesn't happen.

543
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,440
Right.
And it's really negating a lot

544
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,840
of those heresies that we just
talked about.

545
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Yeah.
We're not going to blend the

546
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,560
natures.
So it's not like he's this

547
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,080
demigod.
We're not going to, you know,

548
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,000
say that he's only man or that
he's only God or that he doesn't

549
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,880
have a body according to us, or
that he's not part of the

550
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080
godhood according to his
divinity.

551
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,760
He's he's, he's got those two
natures in one person.

552
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Yeah, I think, I think that's a
good, good way to put it.

553
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760
I always try to remember in my
head these words without they're

554
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,920
not confused, they're not
changing, but they're not

555
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,320
divided and they're not
separated.

556
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
And it's kind of, it's kind of a
hard thing to rationalize.

557
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800
But like you said, this box,
think about these things.

558
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520
They, they kind of both go
against these two, two major

559
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840
heresies.
And I put this in here 'cause I,

560
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,080
I like this, the Westminster
Confession and also London

561
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,720
Baptist Confession.
They make this emphasis on

562
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,640
Christ being a person.
It's easy.

563
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760
You know, we talk about Christ
maybe performing a miracle

564
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,920
according to his divine nature.
You know, how do these, how do

565
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,080
the nature's communicate with
each other?

566
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640
That's a whole different
discussion.

567
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,640
How do we talk about things?
Well, that's according to his

568
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,040
human nature.
This is according to his divine

569
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,000
nature.
But at the same time, Jesus is a

570
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
person.
You can say Jesus did this and

571
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,280
you're OK.
Right.

572
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,960
I think that is it's really good
because there are lots of

573
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,560
discussions where you can go,
no, this is Jesus, the person.

574
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,240
We don't have to try to figure
out if it's in his humanity or

575
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600
his divinity like he is the
person who did it.

576
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,840
So in the London Baptist
Confession, I think it's in the

577
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,840
same place in the Westminster
Confession of Faith 8.7 that

578
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,560
goes, Christ in the work of
mediation acteth according to

579
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,800
both natures, by each nature
doing what is proper to itself.

580
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,720
Yet by reason of the unity of
the person, that which is proper

581
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,120
to one nature is sometimes in
Scripture attributed to the

582
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,240
person denominated by the other
nature.

583
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,400
Because you can parse this stuff
out all day and I think you can

584
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,040
get some reasonable lines.
But sometimes you're, what'd you

585
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,960
say Jesus did this maybe.
Yeah, and we would say it was a

586
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,600
miracle.
Yeah, that's right.

587
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840
It's a.
Miracle it's like God did this

588
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,120
in a special way.
I try to think even in that, you

589
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,320
know, bonus episode, we're
talking about Mary, the mother

590
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480
of God.
You know, we're trying to think

591
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,880
about how did how did his DNA
work?

592
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
You know, where did that Y
chromosome come from?

593
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760
What you know what, what did all
that look like?

594
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,040
And we can speculate maybe on
how God did it, but maybe there

595
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,680
was just, you know, boom, there
was a miracle where he takes one

596
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280
of Mary's eggs and, you know,
makes it into Jesus.

597
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,080
So.
I, I, I think you're, you're

598
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,280
right on.
So we'll talk about why, why

599
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,800
this matters.
Like to kind of recap.

600
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,400
I always think hypositic union,
one person, new natures.

601
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
It's kind of confusing because
Trinity is not the opposite, but

602
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
it's like 3 persons, one nature.
Like just try to keep if I can

603
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,680
remember that you're pretty
good, you know?

604
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Yeah, I had a so I was teaching
a youth Group One time.

605
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:30,440
And I will say this analogy
suffers from looking like

606
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,040
partialism.
I'll just tell you that up

607
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720
front.
But what I did was I had this

608
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,360
like ball of clay and I said if
this is the divine nature, then

609
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,520
you and I put like 3 little
spikes on there like here are

610
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680
the three persons.
And I recognize I readily, but

611
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,280
trying to visualize this would
look like partialism and I'm

612
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,560
not.
And so we're not getting in

613
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920
that.
But it's like then if this were

614
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,840
the human nature, like this gets
added into one of the persons.

615
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:03,640
So you have one what?
OK.

616
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,200
Yeah, that has.
Three who's and then one of

617
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240
those who's gets a second what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

618
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,880
There you go.
You can kind of like think of

619
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
all that together that that's
great, some kind of like a

620
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,400
partialist there.
But no, no, no, I'm totally.

621
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Yeah, yeah, you make a cap.
Yeah, the analogy I know suffers

622
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,400
that way, but.
That's good to think about the I

623
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,880
like the what's and the who's
and yeah.

624
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320
So what would you say to someone
if they're like, man, this is

625
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,920
just like going to the 10th
degree, Like what's the point?

626
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Can't we just say Jesus is a
person?

627
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880
I think that's good.
But I do think identifying 2

628
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,320
natures that is really
important.

629
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Like what would you say to
someone like that?

630
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,920
Like, aren't we just, you know,
parsing things too much?

631
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,720
Well, if he's not human, then he
can't really be a sacrifice for

632
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,360
our sin, and if he's not God, he
could only sacrifice for one

633
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,040
other human.
Right.

634
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960
That's right.
And so if he's going to be one

635
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,960
person who can actually
sacrifice himself for humans and

636
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:04,920
do it for all who are ever going
to get his, his sacrifice, we

637
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880
don't have to go into.
Limited or.

638
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Unlimited but wherever your view
is on that he has to be both God

639
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,560
and man and you know we're going
to see in, you know, Christology

640
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Part 2 like not only is he the
sacrifice, but he's the priest

641
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,040
who's offering himself up as
that sacrifice.

642
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160
You know, if I lived a perfect
life as a human, I could say,

643
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,320
you know what, God give me
Zach's punishment and let Zach,

644
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
you know, be.
But I could only win one person

645
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
and I, I myself would be damned,
right?

646
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,960
I'd have to, I'd have to suffer
the eternal consequences.

647
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:46,360
But because he is God and man,
God can pour out that wrath in

648
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,720
an eternal way in the space of
three hours on this person on

649
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,200
the cross who has both of these
natures and it can appease, it

650
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,360
can propitiate for our sins.
No single.

651
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,160
You know if if he doesn't have
both of those, can't do that.

652
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,960
Number one reason so important
that that you, you know,

653
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,280
identify both, both of these
natures being evident in the one

654
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,920
person.
Then the other thing I wrote

655
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,400
down is, you know, it's easy to
you separate everything and you

656
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,880
just become a modern day Gnostic
and you hate everything that's

657
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,600
physical, even if you might not
say that you're like

658
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,040
everything's so spiritual.
It's like, no, Jesus, he was a

659
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,480
person with flesh.
He was he, he had a humanity and

660
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,520
that that's really important.
He's going to return visibly and

661
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920
bodily and and and in this great
way.

662
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,920
So I think that's a pretty good,
you know, overview of the

663
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,440
hypostatic union.
Anything you want to add,

664
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Michael?
Totally God, totally man.

665
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,960
Go check it out.
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666
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600
It's good.
That's our take.

667
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,320
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668
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640
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669
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