God's Plan for Israel | Romans 11:1-11
Episode 91
God is moving and had moved sovereignly through the affairs of national Israel, but what are His ultimate plans? Tune in to hear Michael and Zach discuss what Paul says those plans are.
The Miracle of Israel's Rebirth: https://www.icej.org/understand-israel/israel-updates/the-miracle-of-israels-rebirth/
Book that Michael Mentions—Israel: A Concise History of a Nation Reborn: https://www.audible.com/pd/Israel-Audiobook/B01L7GUS70?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp or https://a.co/d/i0DPIMX
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All right, Zach.
So I just had to walk outside to
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get a charging cable for my
iPad.
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Got it.
Got it going.
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Charging.
Oh.
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Nice.
And in the air there was a scent
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of, oh, I don't know, it was a
little bit of a herbally skunky
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Bernie smell.
It was not.
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Coming from my house.
Unless yeah, it definitely was
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not coming from my house.
I guess I should leave it at
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that.
You don't think any of your kids
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were were were?
You know, made Joshua.
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Sneaking on in the room.
Yeah, I need to have the talk
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the the that talk with the kids.
Yeah, No, I, I, I, you know, it
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brings me a little bit of
comfort.
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Your neighborhood's a little
newer than our neighborhood.
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And, you know, some, some people
have accused us of living in the
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hood.
I'm like, I don't think it's
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hood, but we there are houses
that we walk by in our
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neighborhood and we're like, OK,
we know what what you're doing
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right now.
It's and I always wonder, and
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maybe I'll get your take on
this.
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Call the police on them.
Like, Hey, I think this house
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is.
Smoking marijuana.
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I don't think maybe the police
don't care anymore.
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Maybe we can do a segment.
We're just walk around calling
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police on people and just take
two podcasts.
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We're calling the cops on you.
I part of me would think like,
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do they care?
I don't know.
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I don't.
I don't know, you know?
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Yeah, they may have like, unless
it's like driving under the
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influence of marijuana or
something, we're just not gonna
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mess with it.
Like they may have a an unspoken
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policy, you know, unwritten
policy.
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I guess you.
This is something I wanted to do
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on Take Two, Leanne said.
It was dumb, so I never brought
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it up.
I thought it would be funny, I
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don't think.
And I think we picked the right
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people.
This is also like calling people
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out in a joking way, like
sometime during a church
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function.
We should like record ourselves
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in the parking lot and be like,
let's see who locks their car.
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Be like Trey Hawk car.
I've seen I've seen these things
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where people go by and they'll
do like hard check and be like,
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oh, Clayton did not lock your
car and just like seeing just as
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like a funny little joke, you
know?
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That'd be good.
Having like a little real.
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And, and, and so if you're
listening, you've got your head
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up warning.
That's up Warning, yes.
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So this is what you get for not
listening?
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Yeah.
If you if you don't like it, you
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weren't listening.
This time we're gonna check.
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Yeah, maybe one Sunday morning.
It's crazy going back to to pot
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or marijuana, Yeah.
Let's not get off track.
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Let's not get off track.
I I could not have told you what
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it smelled like prior to COVID.
Until you were frequent, I mean,
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yeah, prior to COVID.
Yeah, Prior to COVID, till I was
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a frequent, yeah, frequent user.
And then, you know, lost taste
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and smell for a week with COVID.
And then when my smell came
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back, I don't think it's as
sensitive as it was, but it was
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hyper sensitive to the smell of
marijuana, to the fact that we
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were going out duck hunting one
time.
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My kids laugh at me because I
always tell the story.
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We were going out duck hunting
that it would have been December
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2021 or January, January 2021,
sorry.
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And it was late at night because
we were like trying to make
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time, you know, we leave as soon
as we can.
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So like we packed up and left
from here like 9 and we were
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just going to I'll drive you
sleep, you know, I sleep, you
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drive type of thing.
So we're in between Augusta and
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Atlanta.
There's no one on US 20, no one
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on US 20.
We're going West and a car
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coming east on the other side of
the freeway.
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I was like, they're smoking pot.
I could smell it.
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Ohh, man, it's crazy.
Yeah.
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And but then it's calm down.
It's not that sensitive and
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it's.
Not that sensitive, but I could
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have been like a a drug dog, a
drug, you know, dunks right
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there, you know, sit down next
to they're like cinnamon you.
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Just like run out.
Yeah, that would be that.
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You guys said, hey, let that be.
Also warning, don't be.
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Don't be smoking the old Mary
Jane around this guy.
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Yeah, Well, yeah.
So you keep, you keep bringing
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up stuff.
So I smelled it one time when I
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was teaching class at Northwood.
At Northwood.
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OK, Yeah.
And I and I couldn't point it
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out and I didn't want to.
I didn't want to figure it out
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who it was because it was very,
this was like, this was right at
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the time when it was very
sensitive.
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And I thought, well, maybe, you
know, been around a relative and
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you can't really.
You can't.
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Stop.
That's true.
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But I just said, hey, I just
want you to know Mr. Mott has
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very sensitized olfactory, you
know, smells towards pot.
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I I can smell and I smell a
little bit right now.
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So I'm just putting you on
alert.
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Don't be using it because if I
know it's you then I'll feel you
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know honor bound to to turn you
in.
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That's great.
I thought.
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I thought you were going to say
like, you're taking a Sunday
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school and you're like, Over
There by Charlie Summers Smells
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suspicious.
Probably Laurie, what you doing?
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Just kidding.
Never would would accuse them of
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anything like that.
But yeah, I think we're one
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thing I like about the podcast.
We're learning a lot about each
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other, you know, and now I know.
Be careful with the old.
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Make sure we're my deodorant
around you because you're gonna
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you'll know.
Well, yeah, you keep mentioning
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things and I keep having to
address them.
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Crazy enough when I just maybe
nine months ago, I was able to
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smell Bo again, I could not
smell Bo, which was great when I
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was a football coach, yeah, I
could walk into that locker room
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and like this is locker room
doesn't smell bad at all.
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And then it was later I was
like, okay, I can smell it again
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so.
That's funny how it was weird.
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Would you say your back is your
wife smell good?
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It's probably 85% like she still
can't like Doctor Pepper growing
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up.
Favorite soft drink ever.
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She can't drink it 'cause it
just tastes like chemically
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metallic to her still.
So like Sprite I think is OK.
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Root beer is OK for her so most
times she just drinks water.
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Has she ever done smelling salts
before?
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Like to try to get it back or
try to, I don't.
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Know if that would do anything
but I was just curious.
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Have you done have you done
smelling salts?
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I mean I.
Smelled I've got some at my
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house right now I.
Smelled some when we were in
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like junior high high school,
there was like a medical kid or
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something and one of the
football players got it out and
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was like.
Dude, that stuff is.
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Out like ammonia, some type of
ammonia or something.
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Right, No, Yeah, a lot a lot of
them have ammonia in it.
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We one last side trail then
we'll get we'll get to it for
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impact.
One lesson I brought in smelling
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salts for like, you know, if, if
the Holy Spirit, you know, come
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to your off, it's going to
change you, You can't, you can't
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just you can't sit there and
smell spelling talk to do
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nothing.
You know, the most frequent
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injury people get injured from
this.
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Most of it's head injuries from
whipping, whipping their head
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back.
They'll hit a wall.
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If they're not, you know,
they're close to a concrete wall
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or something.
So you know to be careful of
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your surroundings.
But COVID Steven Bostick smell,
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he just smelled that like
nothing and it's unbelievable.
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Because he just held it up
there.
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Just held it took a big sniff
and if you take like a faint
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sniff like like a foot away, it
gets me.
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I can't do that.
It's like.
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Crazy.
Punch so that that like breaks
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my heart when someone like if
you can't smell that, that's
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insane cuz that stuff is strong
and he was just like it was
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nothing that's.
Crazy.
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Maybe one time, maybe next time
on the podcast, we'll get some
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smelling salts in here to do
some show and tell.
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No, Steven's still not in this.
Like he's recovered from it.
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I this was like years ago so I I
would think.
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He would be.
You just hit him when he was
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probably contagious with it
then.
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Probably so because I thought he
was.
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He's like, I won't be able to
smell it.
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He like like there's no it's one
of those things you cannot fake.
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I don't.
Think.
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It's like a reflex, but anyway
that how do we tie this to God's
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plan for Israel?
Oh well, because you know, just
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like you may have thought that
we didn't have a plan for this.
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That's right, we do have a plan
and and even though you may
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think that God doesn't have a
plan, he he did have a plan.
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He does have a plan for Israel.
That's I guess that's how you
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tied in that's.
Great Romans 11.
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Let's take it to the next level
from the hearts of the Low
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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where
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we take theology to the next
level.
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Romans 11.
Can I make one note before we
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jump into it?
Sure.
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I got my notes here.
Yeah.
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Yeah, Pastor Joel, we got the,
we got the color notes.
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I think you got a red period on
the back there, but it just
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looks when you got the light
blue and there's like, oh, I was
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like, these are fancy notes.
Were you thinking we shouldn't
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be paying for color?
Copies of I was kind of like an
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old man, like, are we paying for
this?
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But at the same time And every
now and then, I don't think we
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did it this time, but sometimes
we have like premium paper
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that's like a random time.
You're like, oh, this.
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I feel like I can't fold this in
half this like feels nice.
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No, I think what happens is they
have some premium paper, they
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run some stuff and then some.
Sometimes it gets left in there.
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And if someone prints stuff out,
yeah.
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Yeah, sometimes you feel feel
what is the color like?
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Wow, this is this is fancy
heavyweights.
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That's good.
But to introduce this sermon
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title is God's Plan for Israel,
Romans 11/1 through 11 making
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our way through Romans and and
the the color ink was used on
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this lovely Jensen.
Chart.
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Oh, it was, yeah.
So we've we've talked about the
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Jensen chart before and we'll
put it back up here so you can
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talk about it, but you have it
right in front of you.
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So you want to kind of talk us
through that?
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I would.
Love to and so there's five
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major sections in Romans.
We are currently in Section 4.
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So we're we're really
progressing through the book
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Romans 118 through 320.
The emphasis is on sin, our need
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for salvation.
It pivots in Romans 321 to 521
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to what many would say
salvation, really honing in on
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justification, talking about the
way of salvation already
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establishing all of sins.
Well, how do how do we come to
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Christ?
And that's through Jesus Christ
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alone.
And Romans 6 through Romans 8,
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we really emphasize
sanctification or Paul
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emphasizes it.
It really shows us how do we
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live a life of salvation.
That brings us to Romans 9
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through 11, the section we're in
right now, huge emphasis on
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God's sovereignty and the scope
of salvation.
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When we think in the scope, we
think about how God has worked
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in Jewish history, we, we look
at how he, he has worked with
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the Gentiles and how he's going
to work with, with the Jews.
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And so we see a lot of, a lot of
back and forth.
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You know, Paul's talking all the
time about Jew and Gentile and
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here he's kind of going back and
forth a little bit in Romans 11.
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We're really going to learn and
what the future holds for ethnic
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Israel and then we'll go on to
talk about service and the
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service of salvation Roman 12
through 16 and a few few sermons
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from now.
But that that's kind of where we
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are at in in the chart.
That's good.
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And so picking up with Chapter
9, just kind of a deep dive
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deeper.
So remember, we've reviewed 8-9
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and 10 a couple times, but we
end chapter 8 with these
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glorious declarations of God's
promises.
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We have a golden chain of
redemption.
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Nothing can separate us from the
love of God.
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And then boom, Chapter 9, these
questions like, well, if that's
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true Paul, then what about
Israel?
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And then Paul's going to kind of
show how God is moving through
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his sovereign plan, and he'll
say it's not as though the word
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of God has failed, for there are
not all Israel who are descended
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from Israel.
And he really kind of marches us
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through this idea that God is
working sovereignly both through
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individuals and in people
groups.
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We get some examples of Ishmael
and Isaac, Jacob and Esau, and I
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think Pharaoh and Moses are in
there as well.
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And so you see how God is moving
through to bring about His
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sovereign plan of salvation.
Man hit sovereignty hard.
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Then we get to chapter 10 and
and really, I think what Paul's
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trying to point out is you guys
aren't off the hook.
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I've held out my hands.
I've been patient with you.
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You've been obstinate and
stubborn.
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I've established memes that, you
know, we get these, this famous,
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you know, phrase these famous
verses in Romans 10 that, you
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know, how can you hear without a
preacher?
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How can someone preach unless
they are sent, Oh, this whole
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chain And he's saying I'm
sovereign, but I used human
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means.
Not only that, I've used these
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memes with you.
I've said prophet after prophet
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after prophet.
You've actually rejected me.
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So he's kind of not turning the
table, but kind of showing them
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that's, that's where you're at.
And so you come out of that, you
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might be thinking like, man, I
guess God's done with me.
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We'll answer that or Paul will
answer that a little bit bit
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later.
But that that's a lot of what
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Romans 11 is about how, how is
God going to operate going
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forward with Israel?
No, that's very good.
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And you know, my mom was born in
1949.
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Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
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And so I remember her saying,
you know, Israel came into
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existence the modern day country
a year before I was born and how
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that was such a huge thing that
people would talk about.
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There's a Israel again.
There's a Israel again.
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So you you know, Chapter 9.
Hey, he's moving sovereignly.
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Chapter 10.
There are means, human means
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that I use and I've done that
through you.
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Chapter 11.
I'm not done with you, Israel.
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There is a future plan for you.
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Yeah.
So that's really, that's really
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great.
And it's hard to even fathom
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just Israel not existing.
Yeah, just in my because it's in
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the news all the time.
I'm hearing that was like what
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Israel didn't always exist.
Like no like 2 about 2000 years
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there was no country Israel
boom.
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Now it's back as a a sovereign
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Yeah, that that's pretty crazy.
That's where Pastor Joel opened
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up the miracle of Israel's
rebirth, referencing 1948.
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That that's been, you know,
around 70 ish years that this
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unprecedented act in history
that really, you know, it's
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been, you know, like you were
saying Michael, thousands of
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years.
Really, this can only come about
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by by divine intervention.
Especially it's coming out of
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the Holocaust, right?
Yeah, that that is, it was huge.
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I read a book recently.
I don't think it was written
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from a religious perspective.
It was really a geopolitical
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perspective.
I will look that up and put it
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in the notes, but it just
details all of Israel's
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challenges as they came into
existence and really walks it
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through modern day.
Highly recommend that you, you
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know, if this is something that
interests you, read it.
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Joel reads a lengthy part of an
article by David Parson, and I
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can link that too, called The
Miracle of Israel's Rebirth.
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Just really talking about how
just against all odds that this
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happened, like they declared
their independence that same
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day.
These Arab, 5 Arab countries go
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up against them.
We have this kind of a hands off
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policy because, you know, the
leadership that, you know, the
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good thing about America is that
we have elections.
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The bad thing about America is
that we have elections.
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So you have one leader in one
administration in there that's
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like, yeah, we're going to back
you a year later, 12 months
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later, you can have a different
leadership in there.
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That's like, we're not going to
send you any harms.
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Good luck, Israel.
And so that was kind of, you
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know, what would happen to them.
And so in this article, he uses
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these phrases like a great
miracle, divine intervention,
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the resurrection power of God at
work.
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Just as no one looked for this
to happen, Boom, here's Israel.
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Not only do they exist, but they
stave off this attack and
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they're thriving.
So Pastor Joel, he does this so
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well as he walks us through
context, which we've kind of
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covered.
Then he like glazed the
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groundwork.
This is what Chapter 11, this is
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what it's all about.
This is how Paul is structuring
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it.
It's really two major questions.
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We'll we'll talk about question
1 today, Question 2 probably
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next time.
And Paul opens this up in Romans
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11/1 through two.
He writes, I say then God has
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not rejected his people, has he?
May it never be, for I am to an
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Israelite, a descendant of
Abraham, of the tribe of
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Benjamin.
God has not rejected his people
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whom he foreknew.
So the natural question that
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might be brought up through all
of this is man.
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God's done with Israel.
And so his whole point of these
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11 verses are no, God is not
done.
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Not only that, I'll, I'll show
you like Paul does frequently.
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I'll show you a couple examples.
Yeah, that's good.
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Example number one, you're
looking at em on I'm Jewish and
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God is using me Michael.
So God God never totally
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abandons his people.
Here's a present day example and
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then he gives US1 more as well.
He talks about I'm losing my
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place on my or maybe this is not
the.
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Spot yeah.
So I think what you so the the
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next thing we have our notes is
just the next question that
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we're going to talk about.
Oh, I see, I see.
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Yeah.
So the next question that's in
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Romans 11 is I say then they did
not stumble.
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So as the fall did.
They may never be but their
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transgression by but by their
transgression and salvation has
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come to the Gentiles to to make
them jealous.
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So those are the two that's
right, main questions.
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And then you were diving into to
question one.
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I'd jump in the gun there.
So I think that's AI think
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that's a good way to frame it.
You're thinking, question number
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one, has he rejected his people?
Question #2 I say then they
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didn't stumble as the fault, did
they?
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And so where we're looking at
has God rejected his people?
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And in Pauling fashion, you
know, screams the may it never
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be like he does.
Very strong statement.
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I think you either read that and
you're like, you know, it's
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strong, or you're like, it's
kind of weird.
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Why is he saying this?
But I think the point is no, no,
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no, no, no.
Right, right, right, all right.
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And so you already mentioned
Paul himself being one example,
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and you could point to Peter,
you point to others who Jews,
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who are of the faith and who are
living it out.
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The second one was Elijah.
Yeah, just a very right, right.
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It's like, OK, where are we
going with this Paul?
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But he says going on in Romans
11/2 through four, God has not
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rejected his people whom he
foreknew.
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Or do you not know the
Scripture?
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Oh, don't you remember what the
Scripture says in the passage
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about Elijah where he pleads
with God against Israel?
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Lord, they have killed your
prophets, they have torn down
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your altars, and I alone am
left, and they are seeking my
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life.
But what is the divine response
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to Him?
I've kept for myself 7000 men
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who have not bowed the need to
bow.
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That that is so good.
And I like that Paul is just
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over and over again referencing
all these Old Testament
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passages.
Elijah, everyone knows this guy
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from from the showdown at Mount
Carmel.
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That's right.
Got that.
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Yeah.
That's so good.
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And, you know, sometimes that's
what people know.
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Then after they're like, oh, is
that Elijah or Elijah?
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And I'm getting confused and all
this stuff.
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Pastors kind of recounting the
chronology where that happened.
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You know, all these false
prophets are, are killed.
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He's running for his life after
that, right?
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He's, he's, he's, you know,
enemy #1.
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Yeah, and, and it's, it seems
odd, Elijah, you just called
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down fire from heaven and just
totally took out this altar that
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had been doused in water.
Then you and with some of your
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servants killed all these false
prophets.
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Why are you so struck with fear?
But he was for some reason.
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It's it's crazy.
So Jezebel finds out.
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He loins up his girds, up his
loins, and then runs, outruns
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these Chariots.
Maybe it was muddy.
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I've heard it was muddy.
And that's how he did it.
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I don't that would.
Be a tough, tough task for most
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of us, I think.
Yeah.
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And so then he flees down and
he's in this cave and I'll read.
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I'll read this passage.
This is first Kings 19.
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And if you have watched the
Nativity, this passage shows up
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a couple times and the Nativity.
But so here we go.
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It says, then he, this is
Elijah, came to a cave and
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lodged there.
And behold, the word of the Lord
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came to him.
And he said to him, What are you
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doing here, Elijah?
And he said, I have been very
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zealous for the Lord, the God of
hosts, for the sons of Israel
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have forsaken your covenant,
torn down your altars, and
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killed your prophets with the
sword.
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And I alone am left, and they
seek my life to go, to take it
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away.
So he said, Go forth and stand
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on the mountain before the Lord.
And behold, the Lord was passing
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by, and a great and strong wind
was rending the mountains and
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breaking in pieces the rocks
before the Lord.
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But the Lord was not in the
wind.
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And after the wind and
earthquake, but the Lord was not
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in the earthquake.
And after the earthquake of
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fire, but the Lord was not in
the fire.
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And after the fire, a sound of a
gentle blowing.
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When Elijah heard it, he wrapped
his face in his mantle and went
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out and stood in the entrance of
The Cave.
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And behold, a voice came to him
and said again, What are you
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doing here, Elijah?
And he said, We're going to get
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the same line again.
I've been very zealous for the
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Lord.
The God of hosts for the sons of
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Israel have forsaken your
covenant, torn down your altars,
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and killed your prophets with
the sword.
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And I alone and left kind of a
Eeyore complex, and they seek my
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life to take it away.
Then the Lord said to him, Go,
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return on your way to the
wilderness of Damascus.
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And when you have arrived, you
shall anoint Hazal king of Arum,
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and Jehu the son of Nemeshi or
Nimshi, and you shall appoint
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king over Israel, and Elisha the
son of Shafat of Abu Abu
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Mahallah, you shall anoint as a
prophet in your place and shall
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come, and it shall come about.
The one who escaped from the
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sword of Haziel, Jehu shall put
to death, and the one who
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escapes from the sword of Jehu,
Elisha shall put to death.
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And here's our quote.
Yet I will leave 7000 in Israel
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all the knees that have not
bowed to Baal, and every mouth
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that has not kissed him.
Wow, 7000 is probably not most
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of Israel, but it ain't nothing.
It's quite a few, yeah.
440
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,600
'Cause it's, I think, you know,
to give Elijah some credit, it's
441
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080
easy to think like worst case
scenario.
442
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,080
And he says to us, I'm, I'm all
alone.
443
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,160
It's like, no, no, no, God
always has a remnants.
444
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,360
And I think I, I relate to that
a lot.
445
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,840
You kind of a little
pessimistic.
446
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,440
You're like, what was me?
Like I said, ER, complex.
447
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,000
You're like, no, no, God's
provided in amazing ways.
448
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,280
And I don't know if, if we did,
we miss a have we kept the
449
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:45,240
street going where there's a
song in every servant because
450
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600
Joel's back on it.
Yeah, yeah, he is back on it.
451
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560
Yeah.
So like I said, the ER complex
452
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,600
and Joel mentions this song,
Nobody likes me, everyone hates
453
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,640
me.
Guess I'll go eat worms.
454
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,240
And he sings it, and he does a
good, pretty good job.
455
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,120
Singing nails it, man.
Familiar with this song?
456
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,480
I actually not super familiar
outside of like hearing people
457
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,080
talk about it versus like
knowing the song or hearing the
458
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,960
song.
But I think, I think that nails
459
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,840
it and we get kind of right into
some application here where it's
460
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,200
easy for us all to kind of feel
that well go.
461
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,280
Ahead, Yeah, and you can read.
Go ahead and read this
462
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520
application by John MacArthur.
But I do have beef with
463
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,880
something John MacArthur says
here, so I do want to reserve.
464
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,880
The He's in bad health right
now, so be careful.
465
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,560
Man.
Oh he is.
466
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,280
Oh, that's not good.
Take it easy on him, I'm.
467
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,960
Not, I'm not beef with him
personally.
468
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,240
It's just the words that he
wrote.
469
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,480
Yeah, yeah.
What John MacArthur says the
470
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Lord was passing by the three
phenomena, wind, earthquake and
471
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,720
fire announced the imminent
arrival of the Lord.
472
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800
The Lord's self revelation to
Elijah came in a faint
473
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,360
whispering voice.
The lesson for Elijah was that
474
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:53,840
Almighty God was quietly,
sometimes imperceptible, doing
475
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,880
His work.
Take him down all.
476
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,960
Right.
Yeah, I think overall it's
477
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240
great.
I mean, you have these three big
478
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,520
things.
You would think that's just how
479
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,080
the Lord is acting, but we're
really, he's acting also through
480
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,720
this, this blowing, this gentle
blowing, but never does it say
481
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720
he's whispering.
It just says there was a voice
482
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,280
that came out.
He's not whispering.
483
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,400
So the, the phenomenon was
lower, but there was just a
484
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320
voice.
And so that this goes back to
485
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,840
my, you know, I'm sensitive to
this idea that God whispers to
486
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,200
us or gives us these hints and
stuff that we've talked about.
487
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,840
And this is one verse that
people go back to to try to
488
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,040
support that.
And I'll just point out, it just
489
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,320
says that the voice talked to
him and it wasn't like Elijah
490
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,800
was trained to hear.
So the phenomenon came down.
491
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,400
What?
What does?
492
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
What does your NAASP say?
Right.
493
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,280
Yeah, I always.
I always feel like you just got
494
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,920
ACSB on you at all times even
though I know you don't but
495
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
that's.
Yeah, 'cause CSB was my go to,
496
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,200
but then I switched back to
NASB, although I love CSB.
497
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,360
Yeah, so it just says when
Elijah after the earthquake
498
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,600
there was a fire, but the Lord
was not in the fire.
499
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960
After the fire was the sound of
a gentle blowing.
500
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,520
You know Elijah heard it.
He wrapped his face and his
501
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560
mantle went out and stood and
the entrance, and behold, a
502
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,920
voice came to him.
I see.
503
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
504
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,520
It's two different yeah things
there.
505
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,720
And then kind of runs back,
Pastor Joel, to Philippians 4,
506
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040
four through 5, rejoice.
And the Lord always again, I
507
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840
will say rejoice.
Let your gentle spirit be known
508
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,360
to all men.
The Lord is near.
509
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,320
And so I like he's been doing
this a lot, kind of throwing in
510
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,160
these applications as we're
working our way through it and
511
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,680
really encouraging us.
Like, you know, Paul's
512
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760
referencing these texts, Like
get into these texts if you want
513
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,600
to understand, you know, just
like anyone else making a
514
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,920
literary reference.
I mean, Paul's making one to the
515
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,840
word of God.
So it's different.
516
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,640
But if it's like, oh, the
Shakespeare thing, like, it
517
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,080
would behoove you to know what's
going on here if you're going to
518
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,600
capture the analogy.
Yeah.
519
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,280
And there are a lot of online
tools you can figure out.
520
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,240
You know, you don't have to have
your whole Old Testament
521
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720
memorized to figure out where
these are.
522
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,480
There's there's ways you can
find out.
523
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,000
Oftentimes get to know your
translation for the NASB.
524
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,360
Oftentimes it puts it in all
caps when it's a quote.
525
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,960
Yeah, that's nice.
I like that about NASB.
526
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280
It's very apparent.
Yeah, it'll put it in all caps
527
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,240
the but even, you know, if you
have something like the Blue
528
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,200
Letter Bible or Bible Gateway,
you can find some cross
529
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360
references to tell you where,
where those Old Testament
530
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,560
passages are.
All right, on to verse 5 of
531
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,200
Romans.
And the key kind of phrase out
532
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800
here is a remnant according to
God's gracious choice.
533
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,400
So in it, it says in the same
way then, so in the same way
534
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,840
that God reserved 7000 back in
that day in a similar way.
535
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,760
So Paul's making that analogy
from what God did during
536
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,440
Elijah's time to now, there has
also come to be at the present
537
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,120
time a remnant according to
God's gracious choice.
538
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,920
But if it is by grace, it is no
longer on the basis of works.
539
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Otherwise, grace is no longer
grace.
540
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,120
Huge key.
I like that.
541
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,360
It's a pretty big theological
statement, but in a in a small
542
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,480
package.
Yeah, I like that.
543
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,040
He like, is making sure you know
what Grace is like.
544
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,360
He could have easily said it's
all by grace, but he's like,
545
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,200
he's like, no, grace is no
longer grace.
546
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:08,760
Like he's over explaining
himself.
547
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960
And I'm glad he does, because
there's still confusion around
548
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,120
this kind of stuff sometimes,
right?
549
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,520
Yeah, and it's almost like our
boys, Reliant K, they knew this
550
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960
verse when they said grace is
what makes life not fair.
551
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Is that the?
That's right.
552
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Yeah, that's right.
The beauty of grace is makes
553
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,480
life not fair.
Yeah, I love that.
554
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Who?
I got to look.
555
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,360
Someone commented on our Spotify
and I was like I want to know
556
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,960
who you?
Are their username is just
557
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,000
numbers.
Tell us who you are, numbers.
558
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720
That's great.
Yeah, that is so, so good.
559
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,040
So Paul kind of spells that out
for us, leading us to verse 7.
560
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,760
What then what Israel is
seeking, which is a workspace
561
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960
righteousness, it hasn't
obtained, but those who were
562
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,680
chosen obtained it.
You know, Gentiles, a grace
563
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,480
based righteousness and the rest
were hardened or I mean, even
564
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,240
the Israel lights, you know,
seeking God, you know, as Paul
565
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520
kind of outlines earlier and and
then the rest rest were
566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,480
hardened.
And really I like the way Pastor
567
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,280
Jill said it kind of given over
to their hard hearts, because I
568
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,480
think this term hardened is a
tough one to articulate.
569
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Like what do you mean?
Is God actively hardened?
570
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720
It is he just giving you over,
you know, per Romans, one kind
571
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,360
of thing.
Is there more to it?
572
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,240
How do you kind of define that
kind of thing?
573
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,360
Yeah, I think that's good.
You could go back to, you know,
574
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,000
kind of the the characteristic
guy that you would talk to about
575
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,720
getting his heart hardened as
Pharaoh.
576
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,640
You read through that.
Sometimes it says God does,
577
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400
sometimes Pharaoh does.
A lot of people have said, you
578
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,600
know, what God has done is turn
Pharaoh over to his own devices.
579
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,960
And that's what Joel says here.
And there's nothing, you know,
580
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,160
you've also said, you know,
there's ice and clay.
581
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,600
You can put them in the
sunshine.
582
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,240
One melts 11 gets hardened and
and tough God can put people in
583
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240
different circumstances and
that's there's nothing God's not
584
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,800
doing anything wrong because
like whatever circumstance you
585
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,880
find yourself in, you're still
you know you're still are to
586
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
love God with all your heart,
soul, mind, strength and and.
587
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,200
So no, no one's doing that.
I'm speaking off the cup here,
588
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,080
which is usually a bad, bad
idea.
589
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,480
I want to say this Hebrew word
for hardened can mean
590
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,400
strengthened.
I don't know if this is true, so
591
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,520
I need to look this up.
But I think it lends itself to
592
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,240
kind of what Pastor Joel was
saying that yeah, yeah, that's
593
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000
what I get for going over the
cup, that it has this idea of
594
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,680
strengthening.
Not that, you know, perfect
595
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600
etymology is a definition
anyway, but I think there might
596
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,600
be something there where, you
know, God strengthens in the
597
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,160
giving you over.
So anyway, something to ponder
598
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000
something something to think
about more because Paul will
599
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,200
kind of develop that in just a
just the next verse quoting the
600
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,240
the Old Testament.
No, that's very good.
601
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,000
So I'm just looking through here
'cause this is so this is the.
602
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Let's see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
603
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,240
So verse 8 says just as it is
written, God gave them a spirit
604
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:11,120
of stupor, eyes to see not and
ears to hear not down to this
605
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,440
very day.
And David says, let their table
606
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,840
become a snare and a trap and a
stumbling block and a
607
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,760
retribution to them.
Let their eyes be darkened to
608
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440
sea not and bend their backs
forever.
609
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,720
So pretty kind of imprecatory
ish there.
610
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,120
Yeah, this is, this is, you
know, Paul, Paul's using some,
611
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,920
some tough language there where
I know I, you know, a lot of us
612
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,760
like to shy away from.
So it's imprecatory Psalms, but
613
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,480
he's using it to describe this
is this is what exactly what is
614
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,400
happening to to these Jews that
have rejected rejected grace.
615
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,840
They're they're stumbling over
Christ.
616
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,240
They're trying to earn their
salvation.
617
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Not this is this is not not
great.
618
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360
And you know, David talks about
this.
619
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,920
There's also, you know, looking
at Deuteronomy 29, looking at at
620
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,360
this quote to pastors that
that's that first one is Moses,
621
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560
I guess, and the second one is
David.
622
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,360
But I appreciated how pastor
kind of went to the back story
623
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,360
of this Deuteronomy 29 passage,
one of Moses's, you know, last
624
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,560
great speeches.
And he, you know, a lot of his
625
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960
last speeches, he's saying, Hey,
you do good, God will bless you,
626
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,440
you do bad, God will curse you
to his covenant blessings.
627
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,040
And I think I meant to look this
up, but I think at the end he's
628
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080
basically like you guys are
going to fail.
629
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Like he even, he even was like,
if you do good, it's good, but
630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,560
you're not going.
To do right?
631
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,880
No, no, that is in there.
I think it may be like because I
632
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,280
think this speech maybe
stretches across a couple of
633
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,720
chapters that may be like
towards a couple Deuteronomy 31
634
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,680
ish.
OK.
635
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Yeah, just kind of.
Checking our memory of
636
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Deuteronomy, but that, that's
what I remember and that's where
637
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
you get this.
Some of the stuff we talked with
638
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Michael Heizer is there too.
Like, yeah, it's all in that
639
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160
same, that same section, you
know, going to the gates of hell
640
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,120
and stuff and the and the rock.
Yeah, all that's there in this
641
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,760
bigger section of Deuteronomy.
So, so Paul is like getting some
642
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120
of the heavy hitters up.
Moses says this, David says
643
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,680
this.
You are, you know, fulfilling
644
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,840
this in, in a way, again like
you were saying, Michael, pretty
645
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,960
strong, pretty strong language.
Yeah, did we want to read
646
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Deuteronomy 21?
Yeah, that's great.
647
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480
All right, these are the words
the covenant which the Lord
648
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320
commanded Moses to make with the
sons of Israel in the land of
649
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Moab, besides the covenant which
he made with them at Horeb.
650
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Horeb and Moses summoned all
Israel and said of them, You
651
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,040
have seen all the land, all the
sorry, you have seen all that
652
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,080
the Lord did before your eyes in
the land of Egypt to Pharaoh and
653
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,240
all his servants and all his
land, the great trials which
654
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,040
your eyes have seen, those great
signs and wonders.
655
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Yet to this day the Lord has not
given you a heart to know, nor
656
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,920
eyes to see, nor ears to hear.
And so you, it's kind of the
657
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920
same thing that we say and of
course we're all in it.
658
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,760
How did these Israelites miss it
all that they had seen, all the
659
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
wonders, but as soon as they get
into the promised Land, you read
660
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,840
through judges and they are just
all kinds of of messed up.
661
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480
You know, each one did what was
right in their own eyes, which
662
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720
sometimes is good, sometimes was
not good.
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Yeah, problem, problem city.
We read over and over that, you
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know, you'll get think of the
Jews of Jesus day.
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They had really access to so
much, experienced so much, but
666
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,480
lacked that spiritual
understanding.
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00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,720
And so then that second quote,
the snare and the trap and this
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00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,480
kind of thing.
That's David in Psalm 69. 36
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nice long 36 verses.
Yeah, go ahead and read it
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because it is imprecatory.
It will kind of talk about some
671
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240
of that stuff.
But it's also messianic because
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the one verse that we pull out
of here says they also gave me
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gall for my food and for my
thirst.
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They gave me vinegar to drink.
Clearly, you know what we see
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with Jesus saying on on the
cross.
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00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:02,360
But again, Paul is is using this
in support of this idea that you
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know, they have been judged.
All right, Psalm 69, Save me, O
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God, for the waters have come up
to my neck.
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00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
I sink in deep mire where
there's no foothold.
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00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,240
I've come into deep waters and
the flood sweeps over me.
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00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280
I'm weary with my crying out.
My throat is parched.
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00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800
My eyes grow dim with waiting
for my God.
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00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800
More in number than the hairs of
my head are those who hates me
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00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
without cause.
Mighty are those who would
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00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,680
destroy me, those who attack me
with lies.
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00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,320
What did I not steal?
Must I now restore?
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00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Oh God, you know my folly.
The wrongs I've done are not
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00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
hidden from you.
Let not those who hope in you be
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00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
put to shame through me, O Lord
God of host.
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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Let not those who seek you be
brought to dishonor through me,
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00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,560
O God of Israel, for it's for
your sake that I boy reproach.
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00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,120
That dishonor has covered my
face.
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00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
I have become a stranger to my
brothers, an alien to my
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00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,840
mother's sons.
For zeal for your house has
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00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,240
consumed me, and the reproaches
of those who reproach you have
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00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,680
fallen on me.
When I wept and humbled my soul
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00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,480
with fasting, it became my
reproach.
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00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,640
When I made sackcloth my
clothing, I became a byword to
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00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,480
them on the talk of those who
sit in the gate, and the
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00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,800
drunkards make songs about me.
But As for me, my prayer is to
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00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,280
you, O Lord, at an acceptable
time.
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00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000
O God, in the abundance of Your
steadfast love, answer me.
703
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,840
In Your saving faithfulness,
deliver me from sinking in the
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00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960
mire.
Let me be delivered from my
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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,000
enemies and from my deep waters.
Let not the flood sweep over me,
706
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,320
or the deep swallow me up, or
the pit close its mouth over me.
707
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,560
Answer me, O Lord, for Your
steadfast love is good.
708
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,360
According to Your abundant
mercy.
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00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,360
Turn to me.
Hide not Your face from Your
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00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,280
servant, for I am in distress.
Make haste to answer me.
711
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,440
Draw near to my soul.
Redeem me, ransom me.
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00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,320
Because of my enemies, you know
my reproach, and my shame and my
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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120
dishonor.
My foes are all, are all known
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00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960
to you.
Reproaches have broken my heart
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00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
so that I'm in despair.
I looked for pity, but there was
716
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640
none, and for comforters but I
found none.
717
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,880
They gave me poison for food and
for my thirst.
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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,440
They gave me sour wine to drink.
Let their own table before them
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00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520
become a snare.
When they are a peace, let it
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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,760
become a trap.
Let their eyes be darkened so
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00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200
that they can't see, and make
their own tremble.
722
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Continually pour out your
indignation upon them, and let
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00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,160
your burning anger overtake
them.
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00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,800
May their camp be a desolation.
Let no one dwell in their tents,
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00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120
for they persecute him whom you
have struck down, and they
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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,120
recount the pain of those who
have wounded.
727
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
You have wounded.
Add to them punishment upon
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00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,120
punishment.
May they have no acquittal from
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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,000
you.
Let them be blotted out of the
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00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,360
book of the living.
Let them not be unrolled among
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00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,400
the righteous.
But I am afflicted and in pain.
732
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Let your salvation, O God, set
me on high.
733
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640
I will praise the name of God
with a song.
734
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,720
I will magnify him with
Thanksgiving.
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00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,280
This will please the Lord more
than an ox or a bull with horns
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00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560
and hoofs.
When the humble see it, they'll
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00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,560
be glad.
You who seek God, let your
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hearts revive.
For the Lord hears the needy and
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00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,280
doesn't despise his own people
who are prisoners.
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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Let heaven and earth praise him
to seize, and everything that
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00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,040
moves in them.
For God will save Zion and build
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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,760
upon the cities of Judah, and
the people shall dwell there and
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00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400
possess it.
The offspring of His servants
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00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,600
shall inherit it, and those who
love His name shall dwell in it.
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00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,880
All right, that's good.
So kind of zooming back out,
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kind of two categories of these
Jewish folks, ones that have
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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,400
been saved as a remnant, those
who are going to recognize that
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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,760
righteousness comes through
grace, those who are trying to
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00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,920
get righteousness through works,
a workspace.
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00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,320
And God says, I'm going to
harden them, I'm going to judge
751
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,920
them.
And, and, and you know, this
752
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,760
Psalm and then what we read in
Deuteronomy both speak to them.
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00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,480
But the end question is, has God
rejected the Israel's or the
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00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Israel's, the Jews or Israel?
No, no, he is saving a remnant
755
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160
for him and you can read other
passages.
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00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840
We go other places where it
talks about that, a remnant
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00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,920
coming back to life.
Now this is good so that that's
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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
the first question next week
we'll tackle the second question
759
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,160
moving towards application.
Pastor Jill keeping it simple.
760
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Pray, pray, pray, pray some
more.
761
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,320
Even thinking back to the sermon
last week, just prayer is so
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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,920
vital.
That's really without God
763
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,480
working, there's not a lot of
hope.
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Yep.
And second one, we've mentioned
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00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,360
this two or three Times Now, but
I know for for me, it's good to
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00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200
have that weekly reminder.
Oh, I was going to do something.
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00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,560
My week started and I completely
forgot.
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00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,680
So pray for three people, serve
two people, invite one person
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00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,720
out to where your ever local
festivities are or into your
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00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,160
home, you know, whatever it
might be.
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00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,080
And then he has underneath the
application kind of these read,
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00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,000
review and memorize types of
things.
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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Number one by way of review,
just reread Romans from where we
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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680
are, chapter one through 11.
It's not that big of a ask.
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00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,520
And and then he gets like, OK,
maybe not everyone's going to do
776
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,760
that.
So at least read 9 through 11.
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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,960
Yeah, at least nine through 11
#2 question.
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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,880
How would you respond?
How do you respond when things
779
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,440
go really bad?
What did we learn from Elijah's
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00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,560
response?
You know.
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00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Now that that that's good
because I can feel so sorry for
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00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,840
myself #3 memorize Philippians
4, four through 5.
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00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Four of those times we maybe
feel overwhelmed and all alone.
784
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,240
A good passage to have in your
back pocket.
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00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,080
And then this question we were
kind of wrestling with, what
786
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,640
does it mean?
The rest were hardened.
787
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,240
How does God harden people?
Yeah.
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00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,920
And then lastly, what do you
understand the place of Israel
789
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,840
to be in the future?
Hopefully you recognize that
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00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600
there is a place for Israel and
that's a good, you know,
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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120
conversation that you can have.
There's different views out
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00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,600
there.
You know, at least Jesus is an
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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,960
Israelite.
He's a Jew and he's coming back.
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00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,960
So there's there's that.
What plans does God have for his
795
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,280
people?
It's good.
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00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,600
Hang in there because we'll talk
a lot more about this and
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00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,200
upcoming upcoming sermons.
This is great Romans 31 and the
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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,760
books 31st sermon.
Yeah, that's a lot of them.
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So anything else to add?
I got nothing all.
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Right, that's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take
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Two.
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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000
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