Oct. 1, 2024
Sola Scriptura
Bonus Episode 5
Michael and Zach discuss Sola Scriptura as a foundation leading up to Reformation Day
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Man, we are into fall, Michael.
Yeah, it is fall now.
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It's October.
Yeah, yeah.
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And man, my favorite holiday of
October is.
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Let's say it together.
Halloween, Yeah.
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Yeah, we should maybe do an
episode on Halloween itself.
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That would actually be good.
We could figure that out and the
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origins of it 'cause it's
probably not what you think it
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is.
I.
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Like that a lot.
But on Halloween, it was All
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Hallows Day was November 1st,
and the day before that was All
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Hallows Eve.
And if you say that really fast,
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you can eventually get to
Halloween.
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Yeah.
And so the we were celebrating
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all of the Saints because
there's just too many Saints to
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celebrate.
All of the Saints get a get a
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holiday.
Love it.
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And so 1517 on All Hallows Eve.
That's the English name.
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There's this guy named Martin
Luther who tacked up some
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theses.
How many?
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I think 95. 95 man, have you
read?
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Have you read through them
before?
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I have glanced over them.
I started reading them and I was
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like, oh, I'll have to come back
to the rest of these.
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Love it, love it.
And and so you might be saying
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it's not Halloween right now.
Why am I hearing this so early
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in?
October and on a Wednesday.
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And on a.
Wednesday because this is a
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bonus episode.
Bonus episode and I hope you're
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ready for bonus episodes.
Buckle up, there'll be a lot
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this month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think they're the end of the
year, right?
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Yeah.
And there was already a couple
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in September, so you're probably
used to them by by now.
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But we thought we would take one
day a week, Wednesdays in
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October, and talk about the five
Solas that are kind of wrapped
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up in the Reformation with
Martin Luther and really get to
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the heart.
I mean, maybe it's prior to
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this, when I think of Reformed
theology, I think of the five
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solas.
Really.
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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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And so I, I think maybe if you
hear these, they're in a
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different order, we're going to
do them in this order because it
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makes logical sense to me.
So why not start?
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Your own podcast if you don't
like the order?
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Yeah.
But we're going to start with
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Sola Scriptura, which means
don't read any other book other
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than the Bible, right?
That is wrong, but it doesn't
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mean scripture alone.
So that's that's a good thing.
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Good thing to tease out.
And why?
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Why would we start with Sola
Scriptura?
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Well, it's the foundation for
everything that's going to come
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because we're going to base all
of our ultimate authorities.
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Not that you can't read an early
church Father or the Shepherd of
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Hermas or the DDK or Greg Kochel
to get insight into what the
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Bible says, but you always have
to measure what they're saying
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by what the Bible actually says.
Because the Bible is the actual,
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actual ultimate authority.
You need an authority and when
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you know, when we think of the
Reformation, it really wasn't
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quote UN quote the the main
cause wasn't really sola
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scriptura, but but because it
was justification by faith
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alone.
You got to find out where to
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you're the Aristotle guy.
It's what people call
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soloscripture or the formal or
maybe it's Aquinas.
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I don't know.
When they talk about formal
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causes, instrumental causes and
material causes where
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justification by faith alone.
That's the material cause, but
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underneath that the form that's
soloscripture because you need
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an authority to find out this
information.
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Yep, Yep.
Yep.
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So we, you know, good
Protestants that we are, we're
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going to judge what a Pope says
or what a council says or what
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an early church father says by
Scripture.
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And sometimes, you know, we were
in a class one time where a lot
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of detail was given about how
the early church fathers did
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baptism or did, and it was
almost there was a suggestion of
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since this is how the early
church fathers did it, this is
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how we should do it.
And I'm like, well, the I don't,
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there's a reason I think the
Bible gives us the amount of
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rules that it does, but then it
doesn't be, it's not over
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exacting.
And so even if what they did was
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perfectly in line with the
Bible, doesn't mean that that's
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how every culture has to do it,
because there could be some
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Christian liberty in how you do
some of these things.
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Now that that that makes a lot
of sense.
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It might be helpful, but it's
not not the final authority.
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What, why would we say that
Scripture is that final
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authority?
I mean, you look at the Catholic
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Church, they they would say
Scripture is authoritative, but
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you've got these other points of
authority.
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You've got tradition, you've got
the Pope.
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When we read Scripture, what
what's funny about all that is
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that Scripture claims final
authority for itself.
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So it's hard to have all of
these when Scripture speaks that
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way.
Yeah, and Martin Luther has this
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famous quote because he's being
questioned and he says unless
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I'm convinced by Scripture and
plain reason, because that's all
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we have.
We have our reason and we look
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at scripture.
I do not accept authority of the
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Pope's or councils, for they
have contradicted each other and
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they've contradicted the Bible.
So I think I've said before,
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like reading through Thomas
Aquinas, I think he does a good
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job because all of these
authorities are in place and he
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is in the church and he's trying
to like, we like this is the
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right thing.
And so sometimes he was like,
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well, you've heard this person
say this and that's right and
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this sense, and he kind of gives
them their due.
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But then he'll say, but this is
really right.
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And so he, I think, is really
smart on how he had to be kind
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of crafty because there were
some contradicting things there.
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And so 'cause he.
Who wins?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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So ultimately who wins is the
Bible.
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It's got to be the ultimate
ground of authority.
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That that's where Martin Luther,
as you said, founds himself.
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And that's where, you know, if
you're following as a
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Protestant, that that's what you
should say today.
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So how would you, how would you
describe the authority of the
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Bible?
I'm trying to think of a
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statement that what, what, what
kind of things would we say
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about Scripture?
Maybe a lot of this probably
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comes out of a not too recent
episode.
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We talked about all these
attributes, but we would say
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things like Scripture is without
error, it's an errand, it's
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infallible, it's incapable of
error.
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It's necessary for us to be
saved.
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Like you're not going to get
that from other places.
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It's clear.
At least the basic message you
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can.
If you read scripture, you can
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get the overall theme even if
you don't get every tiny little
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detail.
And it's sufficient for our walk
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and practice.
It's not going to tell you how
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to build a fire or a house.
So there are other ways that we
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learn stuff, but for our
spiritual walk, it's sufficient.
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So yeah.
And we have a scripture here,
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probably you've heard it before,
comes from Second Timothy 3.
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It says you however, continue in
the things you have learned and
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become convinced of knowing from
whom you have learned them, and
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that from childhood you have
known the sacred writing
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scripture which are able to give
you wisdom that leads to
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salvation through faith which is
in Christ Jesus.
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All scripture is inspired by
God, maybe breathed out by God.
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If you want the more more
literal ESV and profitable for
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teaching, for proof, for
correction, for training and
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righteousness so that the man of
God may be adequate equipped for
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every good work.
It's it's our foundation for all
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of those.
That that passage is the go to
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and for good reason because it
does say it's breathed out by
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God and it equips us for every
good work.
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Even if it doesn't tell us how
to build a fire, we we know what
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to keep in mind when we build a
fire.
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We need to glorify God.
Out of love others.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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Exactly.
So all of this is wrapped up in
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it.
And like Michael said that
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because it sets the foundation,
when we go through these other
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Solas, we're going to find out
what Why is it Chrysler and why
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is it Graceland?
Why is it faith alone?
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That's all in Scripture.
Anything else to add?
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I think I think that's it a
little short bonus episode on a
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Wednesday.
Be on the lookout for 1:00 every
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single Wednesday this month.
All.
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Right, that's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take
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Man, we are into fall, Michael.
Yeah, it is fall now.
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It's October.
Yeah, yeah.
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And man, my favorite holiday of
October is.
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Let's say it together.
Halloween, Yeah.
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Yeah, we should maybe do an
episode on Halloween itself.
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That would actually be good.
We could figure that out and the
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origins of it 'cause it's
probably not what you think it
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is.
I.
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Like that a lot.
But on Halloween, it was All
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Hallows Day was November 1st,
and the day before that was All
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Hallows Eve.
And if you say that really fast,
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you can eventually get to
Halloween.
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Yeah.
And so the we were celebrating
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all of the Saints because
there's just too many Saints to
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celebrate.
All of the Saints get a get a
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holiday.
Love it.
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And so 1517 on All Hallows Eve.
That's the English name.
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There's this guy named Martin
Luther who tacked up some
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theses.
How many?
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I think 95. 95 man, have you
read?
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Have you read through them
before?
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I have glanced over them.
I started reading them and I was
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like, oh, I'll have to come back
to the rest of these.
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Love it, love it.
And and so you might be saying
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it's not Halloween right now.
Why am I hearing this so early
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in?
October and on a Wednesday.
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And on a.
Wednesday because this is a
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bonus episode.
Bonus episode and I hope you're
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ready for bonus episodes.
Buckle up, there'll be a lot
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this month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think they're the end of the
year, right?
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Yeah.
And there was already a couple
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in September, so you're probably
used to them by by now.
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But we thought we would take one
day a week, Wednesdays in
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October, and talk about the five
Solas that are kind of wrapped
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up in the Reformation with
Martin Luther and really get to
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the heart.
I mean, maybe it's prior to
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this, when I think of Reformed
theology, I think of the five
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solas.
Really.
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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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And so I, I think maybe if you
hear these, they're in a
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different order, we're going to
do them in this order because it
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makes logical sense to me.
So why not start?
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Your own podcast if you don't
like the order?
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Yeah.
But we're going to start with
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Sola Scriptura, which means
don't read any other book other
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than the Bible, right?
That is wrong, but it doesn't
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mean scripture alone.
So that's that's a good thing.
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Good thing to tease out.
And why?
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Why would we start with Sola
Scriptura?
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Well, it's the foundation for
everything that's going to come
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because we're going to base all
of our ultimate authorities.
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Not that you can't read an early
church Father or the Shepherd of
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Hermas or the DDK or Greg Kochel
to get insight into what the
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Bible says, but you always have
to measure what they're saying
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by what the Bible actually says.
Because the Bible is the actual,
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actual ultimate authority.
You need an authority and when
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you know, when we think of the
Reformation, it really wasn't
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quote UN quote the the main
cause wasn't really sola
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scriptura, but but because it
was justification by faith
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alone.
You got to find out where to
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you're the Aristotle guy.
It's what people call
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soloscripture or the formal or
maybe it's Aquinas.
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I don't know.
When they talk about formal
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causes, instrumental causes and
material causes where
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justification by faith alone.
That's the material cause, but
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underneath that the form that's
soloscripture because you need
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an authority to find out this
information.
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Yep, Yep.
Yep.
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So we, you know, good
Protestants that we are, we're
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going to judge what a Pope says
or what a council says or what
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an early church father says by
Scripture.
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And sometimes, you know, we were
in a class one time where a lot
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of detail was given about how
the early church fathers did
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baptism or did, and it was
almost there was a suggestion of
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since this is how the early
church fathers did it, this is
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how we should do it.
And I'm like, well, the I don't,
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there's a reason I think the
Bible gives us the amount of
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rules that it does, but then it
doesn't be, it's not over
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exacting.
And so even if what they did was
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perfectly in line with the
Bible, doesn't mean that that's
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how every culture has to do it,
because there could be some
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Christian liberty in how you do
some of these things.
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Now that that that makes a lot
of sense.
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It might be helpful, but it's
not not the final authority.
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What, why would we say that
Scripture is that final
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authority?
I mean, you look at the Catholic
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Church, they they would say
Scripture is authoritative, but
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you've got these other points of
authority.
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You've got tradition, you've got
the Pope.
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When we read Scripture, what
what's funny about all that is
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that Scripture claims final
authority for itself.
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So it's hard to have all of
these when Scripture speaks that
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way.
Yeah, and Martin Luther has this
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famous quote because he's being
questioned and he says unless
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I'm convinced by Scripture and
plain reason, because that's all
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we have.
We have our reason and we look
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at scripture.
I do not accept authority of the
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Pope's or councils, for they
have contradicted each other and
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they've contradicted the Bible.
So I think I've said before,
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like reading through Thomas
Aquinas, I think he does a good
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job because all of these
authorities are in place and he
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is in the church and he's trying
to like, we like this is the
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right thing.
And so sometimes he was like,
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well, you've heard this person
say this and that's right and
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this sense, and he kind of gives
them their due.
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But then he'll say, but this is
really right.
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And so he, I think, is really
smart on how he had to be kind
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of crafty because there were
some contradicting things there.
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And so 'cause he.
Who wins?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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So ultimately who wins is the
Bible.
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It's got to be the ultimate
ground of authority.
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That that's where Martin Luther,
as you said, founds himself.
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And that's where, you know, if
you're following as a
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Protestant, that that's what you
should say today.
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So how would you, how would you
describe the authority of the
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Bible?
I'm trying to think of a
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statement that what, what, what
kind of things would we say
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about Scripture?
Maybe a lot of this probably
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comes out of a not too recent
episode.
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We talked about all these
attributes, but we would say
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things like Scripture is without
error, it's an errand, it's
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infallible, it's incapable of
error.
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It's necessary for us to be
saved.
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Like you're not going to get
that from other places.
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It's clear.
At least the basic message you
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can.
If you read scripture, you can
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get the overall theme even if
you don't get every tiny little
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detail.
And it's sufficient for our walk
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and practice.
It's not going to tell you how
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to build a fire or a house.
So there are other ways that we
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learn stuff, but for our
spiritual walk, it's sufficient.
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So yeah.
And we have a scripture here,
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probably you've heard it before,
comes from Second Timothy 3.
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It says you however, continue in
the things you have learned and
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become convinced of knowing from
whom you have learned them, and
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that from childhood you have
known the sacred writing
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scripture which are able to give
you wisdom that leads to
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salvation through faith which is
in Christ Jesus.
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All scripture is inspired by
God, maybe breathed out by God.
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If you want the more more
literal ESV and profitable for
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teaching, for proof, for
correction, for training and
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righteousness so that the man of
God may be adequate equipped for
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every good work.
It's it's our foundation for all
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of those.
That that passage is the go to
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and for good reason because it
does say it's breathed out by
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God and it equips us for every
good work.
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Even if it doesn't tell us how
to build a fire, we we know what
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to keep in mind when we build a
fire.
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We need to glorify God.
Out of love others.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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Exactly.
So all of this is wrapped up in
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it.
And like Michael said that
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because it sets the foundation,
when we go through these other
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Solas, we're going to find out
what Why is it Chrysler and why
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is it Graceland?
Why is it faith alone?
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That's all in Scripture.
Anything else to add?
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I think I think that's it a
little short bonus episode on a
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Wednesday.
Be on the lookout for 1:00 every
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single Wednesday this month.
All.
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