July 2, 2025
Survival and Surrender: A Farming Accident
Episode 2.18
In this powerful and personal episode, Michael sits down with a friend from his hometown who shares the story of a farming accident that changed his life forever. This isn’t just about machinery or missteps. It’s about clarity in crisis. This is a story of tragedy, survival, and deep reflection. Of how quickly the status quo can shatter—and what really matters when it does. Whether you're on a farm or far from it, this conversation invites you to consider what you'd see clearly in your own moment of crisis—and what you might need to change before that day comes.
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We are back.
It's like a year later.
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Since the last time I was here.
Since the last time you recorded
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when we were.
Doing basketball teams.
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Yeah, we're, we're drafting
basketball teams.
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This was on a Sunday afternoon I
think.
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Yes.
And then we had this great
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discussion which we got some
feedback on about Calvinism.
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Did you?
And Arminianism.
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Everyone decided that I was
correct.
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I think they decided you're
correct that it's not the most
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important.
Thing.
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Well, that's that's what I
meant.
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So that was Sunday.
I think so.
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And then Saturday, I think it
was just the like 6 days later.
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Right.
We got a horrible call that
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you'd been in a bad farming.
Act was it?
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OK, now I see what you're saying
now.
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So that it was only a week after
we had.
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I think so.
OK.
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All right.
But I know that I looked, I
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watched that recently because
after you asked me to do this
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again and I said, well look,
I've got both legs, so I
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couldn't remember if I did or
not.
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Yeah.
So we got a prayer.
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I think it was just a text that
went out on the WBC prayer
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chain.
Probably you were already in
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router or there by the time it
got that.
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Far.
Oh, you think so?
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Was it in the morning 0?
It was in the.
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Morning.
Oh yeah, I know what time.
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Well, I don't know what time it
happened, but I sent a text to
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my dad and my brother at 8:54
AM.
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Yeah, I know that.
So I think we found out around
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10 or so, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if I would
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even have been at the hospital
yet or not.
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I don't know.
OK, It's hard to.
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Well as you may or may know this
is Brian Coles needs no
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introduction, but I will
introduce him.
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That's always funny when people
say this man needs no
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introduction and they like spend
5 minutes introducing them.
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But we're going to be doing a
two-part interview about the
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accident that happened a year
ago.
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So like this.
So we're recording this on what,
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June 10th?
It happened on the 8th and it.
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Happened on the 8th so you're
one year anniversary for the
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accident was just two.
Days ago I think.
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Yeah.
So you may be a remember that
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one of the time honored
traditions we have for our
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guests is that they have to say
the magic words to get us out of
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the banter time and into the the
official time.
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Do you remember what they are?
Do we need to take it to the
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next level or?
I think that's what we need to
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do.
Let's do that.
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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.
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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next
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level.
All right, so farmer
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extraordinaire.
I'm not sure about that,
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especially in nowadays.
We actually got the farm
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together some.
Yes.
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Back in the day.
Back in high school days, I
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guess.
Or college.
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It was college.
It was in between my sophomore
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and junior years I believe, of
college farmed, and I remember
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walking by a granary.
I think it was the Lindsay Benz.
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OK.
And there was this canonical
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pit.
Yeah.
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And your dad said if that
thing's running, don't ever get
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close to this pit.
Oh.
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Right.
It's dangerous.
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It's dangerous.
So you've been farming for a
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number of.
Years a long times 1990 eights
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when I got out of college, but I
did it the whole time I was
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growing up too.
And takes a math degree to farm,
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right?
It does.
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That's that's as soon as I got
my math done, I came back home
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to the farm.
Turns out I didn't know what I
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was wanting to do, but I ended
up farming.
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I've been there ever since.
And so this is like a normal
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day.
Yes, it was.
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I was harvesting wheat and I was
getting ready for the for the
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next day.
We needed to clean the machine
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out because we were changing
varieties of seed.
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We were actually growing wheat
for seed production and that
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means it needs to be completely
pure from the previous variety
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we had been harvesting.
And this is something that you
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probably have done.
I've done it at least every year
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once, probably more than once
every year for the past 25 years
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or longer.
And your mic is slipping down.
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I don't know.
I'll have to just.
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I can just tell you.
Yeah, just give it a push.
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I don't know.
There you go.
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And so do you remember anything
specific going on that morning?
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Well, this is it's a job nobody
likes to do.
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These machines are large and
they don't clean out on their
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own very well.
So you have to take quite a bit
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of time with air compressor and
A and a wand and blow out stuff
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that doesn't come out on its
own.
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It's very dusty.
You get it all in your face and
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everything else and it takes a
long time.
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It's just a real pain.
Nobody likes to do it.
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And I was thinking water, but
it's air.
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No, it's it's air because if you
used water the stuff would get
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all sticky and sprout and
everything like that.
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So you have like a big error.
Yeah, it was long, 3 or 4 feet
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long with air compressor with a
line running down to the ground.
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The truck, I say down to the
ground.
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A lot of the work is done on the
ground, but but where I was
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actually hurt was up on top of
the machine.
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So this is where I'm I'm
assuming I was never farming
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during the harvesting season, I
was pulling levees right?
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Disc and planting maybe?
Did some planning.
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Did quite a bit of planning.
I did some planning.
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Yes, yeah, lots of field work.
Yeah, bunch of field work, but I
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never did any and we did some
water work, pulled levees in the
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beans.
I think the year I was working
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was the first year y'all used
polypipe.
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Oh really?
Well, we still using it.
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That's a kind of a that's a
hassle as well.
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Hot work.
So we those are some so I never
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so, but I'm assuming this that
this area is like the central
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place that seed goes in when
you're combining.
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And then like if you see lots of
times you see these pictures and
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these 10,000 acre fields in Iowa
where they're combining corn and
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you know you have these combines
and you have a truck running
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through it.
I'm assuming this is the area
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that the seed initially goes to
after its combine and then this
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auger is what would shoot it out
to a truck behind it or or no
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well.
There's a tank that holds about
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3 or 400 bushels of grain and as
you go through the field and
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pull the grain in, it separates
the grain from the husks and
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puts it in this tank.
And when you, what you're
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talking about seeing is if you
get full, you swing the auger
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out and drop it on a truck or a
grain card or something else
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like that.
And that is where I was up in
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this tank, which is large.
It's right behind the cab and
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it's the top of the machine, and
that doesn't clean out all the
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seed just by running the auger.
So I'm blowing the seed to get
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it to that spout where it can go
out.
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We were just dropping it on the
ground.
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We're just cleaning out what was
left behind and the way that it
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falls in there.
It's a large tank and there's
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two horizontal augers that carry
it to a certain place and then
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it goes up and out that spout.
So is there like a main auger in
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the bottom but some horizontal?
Augers that there's two
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horizontal augers in the bottom
and they go to a vertical auger
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that they carry the grain to a
vertical auger which sends it
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out to the truck.
And all this whole area's
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sloped.
It is sloped.
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Yes, it is sloped.
Now the augers have cover over
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them, but there's a gap because
that has to get the grain out.
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So and, and nowadays this
equipment is a lot larger than
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it was 25 years ago when I first
started doing this.
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And I've often wondered if that
gap that lets the grain fall
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into the auger would have been
wide enough back in those days
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when I, in, when I first got out
of college to fall into I, I
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don't know the answer to that,
but I know that these larger
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machines, the, they can carry
more grain and they, and they
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unload it quicker.
So the gap is large enough for
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my foot to go in and, and yes,
the sides are sloped.
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And also it had begun to
sprinkle a little bit.
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And I can't tell you for certain
what happened.
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So you don't like remember
minutes leading up to it or
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anything like that?
Oh, I remember doing, I'm doing
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the work.
I, I really don't have any
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memory gaps from and I never
lost consciousness.
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So I, so I remember everything.
It's just, I'm just doing what I
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always do and I, I just know
that at some point I slipped
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and, and my foot falls into this
gap.
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This is the gap between the
horizontal auger and the ground.
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And, and the floor, well, the
gap would be, there's a cover
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over the auger, but there's a
gap to let the grain fall into
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it.
And so I fall in there, my foot
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goes into where the the auger is
running.
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And by the way, this is not
something you're supposed to be
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doing.
There are safety features on the
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combine where if you're not in
the seat, it can't be running or
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it won't only run for five
seconds or something.
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So we actually have a person sit
in the seat.
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There's a ladder on the back of
the machine that you have to
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climb up to get up here.
That ladder has to be folded up
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or it won't run.
And all over the place, every
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year, farmers are doing this
thing that I'm doing, breaking
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the rules, breaking the safety
rules, having somebody sit in
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the seat and go in here and blow
this, save some time to clean
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this out.
Our farm will never be doing it
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this way again.
And I honestly, I doubt that
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anyone in my county will do it
again.
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I've heard that comment from
several people because yes,
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we've all done it.
And it's, it's farmers do
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dangerous things.
And, and it turns out sometimes
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we do foolish things.
And, and that's what happened
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after all this time, 25 or 30
years of, of doing this.
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Now I slip in there possibly
because of the rain.
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It wasn't a rain, but there was
sprinkle.
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I don't know if I stepped on a
wet spot and slipped like you
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said the the side is sloped, but
I fell down and it my foot goes
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in there and this machine pulls
me towards the vertical auger
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for a short time and then it
turned loose.
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And when it turned loose and I
pulled my leg out, I saw a bone
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and it was disgusting and it was
terrifying and my reaction was
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considerable time of screaming
and banging on the window for my
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son to turn it off.
I could see the knot of my
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ankle.
You know, the not on the yes, I
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could see that exposed.
So just like in a war movie when
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you see somebody get their leg
blown off, I had about that same
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reaction.
I am shocked and terrified and
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it's natural.
I'm just screaming and it's I
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mean not on purpose.
It's just happening, you know,
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and I immediately try to climb
out of there.
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Now this tank is, if I'm
standing in the bottom of it,
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you could see my head, but it's
still, it's a large tank and
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it's got a couple of steps in
rails to climb out, which I did
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climb out, but I climbed out
with a foot missing.
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And I remember going to put that
foot down and realizing I
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couldn't use it.
It's just I was pretty wound up
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so I didn't have any trouble
getting out, but it was arms and
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one leg and desperation.
So how many people were there
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with you at this?
There was two.
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There was one in the in the cab.
That was my son Samuel, my
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oldest.
He's about 22 at the time.
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And another young man, South
African worker, that's only was
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about 20, and he was on the
ground doing something, maybe
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some other cleaning.
I'm, I'm not sure what he was
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doing, but he's probably
cleaning out his grain cart
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because we have to clean every
piece of equipment out.
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So I think that's what he was
doing.
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So I did have someone with me.
And so when I get out of the
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tank, there's a large flat place
behind this hopper, which is
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where the engine is.
It's a large engine.
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Yeah, I saw.
It I saw you post a video yes
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recently on.
Standing on top of it, I don't
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know how tall.
Sorry.
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I don't know how tall the
machine is, but it's one of the
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larger machines that we use, and
this is at the very top of it.
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But the engine is large and it's
got to be covered, you know, to
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keep stuff out of it.
So there's a large flat place
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and that's where I went to sit
down on the sat down and I took
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my belt off because I've seen TV
and I know what I have to do.
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Actually, I should mention, now
that I'm out and I'm standing
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upright, I see muscles hanging
out.
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I see that bone and I see blood
flow at a rate that changed my
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life.
It, it shocked me and, and
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terrified me.
And at that moment I realized
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that there was a significant
chance that I would not survive.
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I'd never seen blood flow like
that.
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I, I told one time I was
speaking at the church and I, I
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referenced the verse in when God
is telling Noah that people who
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murder other people will be put
to death because of, you know,
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that's not I'm selling the wrong
thing.
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There's, it's when he's telling
Noah not to eat blood.
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He's telling Noah not to eat
blood because the life is in the
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blood.
And my life was flowing out of
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me at an alarming rate.
And so I knew from TV that I had
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to stop that.
That was my only hope.
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Is the train going to bother us?
No, the train's fine.
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I think we'll, we'll, we'll edit
it out fine.
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So that I knew that the only
thing that mattered at the
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moment was to stop the blood
flow.
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I was wearing a belt and I tied
it around my leg twice because
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the first time I did it, I ran
the loop through the buckle like
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you would put it on, and I
didn't feel like that was good
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enough.
So I tied it in a knot and that
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was all I could do.
So I'm sitting there thinking
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there's a pretty good chance
that this is my final hour and
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I've done what I could do.
So I that's when I turned to
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God.
And it's interesting to me.
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At least I didn't ask him for my
life.
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I wanted to live.
It was my daughter's birthday.
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I had a son about to leave to go
on a vacation with some friends.
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I've got 10 kids and a wife at
home.
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I wanted to live, but my all I
said to God was that my life and
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my soul is in your hands and and
that's all that I said.
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And then I sent the texts to my
dad and my brother who farmed
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with with me and who knew where
I was.
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And the text at 8:54 on Saturday
morning said ambulance, now I
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might die.
And my dad got that text as he
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was trapped behind a train 20 or
30 minutes away.
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I'm not sure where my brother
Michael was.
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He got there pretty quick, but
it was up to them to call 911.
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And.
So Sam or the the other guy
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hadn't called 911.
Yet I think they had I, I don't
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know.
I think that Samuel called them.
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They called my dad and, and
Michael, he was a little
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hysterical, but I don't know if
he called them before he came
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and got me down or after.
Probably after would be my
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guess.
So.
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So that means they had probably
called first, I thought, for the
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first time this week or last
week.
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But why didn't I call 911?
That's the first time.
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It's a year later.
And I think, well, why didn't I
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do?
And then pretty quickly I
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realized why.
It's because I thought that I
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might be about to die.
I didn't know how much
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consciousness I had left.
And I called my wife and that's
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the only phone call I made.
I sent the text.
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And then I called my wife and
apologized for being such a bad
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husband and told her I was hurt
and that I didn't know what was
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going to happen, but that I
loved her and for her not to
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come out there.
And that was all the
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communication.
I I didn't send any more texts
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or I didn't know how much longer
I would be awake.
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My son Samuel showed up.
He climbed up there and carried
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me down to the ground.
It's 10 feet off the ground.
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So this is you're out of the
hopper, I'm out of the hopper
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platform on top, tearing you
from the platform to the ground.
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Top of the engine platform so
there's a couple of steps down
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to another level and then
there's a ladder down to the
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ground and he first had to get
the ladder down which we had had
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some was difficult to do but he
was determined and and he
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carried me down from there
without dropping me and and even
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this is I don't know how that
happened.
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He's not any bigger than I am.
He's younger and and, you know,
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strong but.
He doesn't have 25 years of
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farming strength.
No, no, not like that.
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And he, he carried me down to
the ground and I never wasn't
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dropped.
I didn't fall.
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That's that's a miracle in
itself.
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Now, when I got to the ground,
he wanted Samuel, my son wanted
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to throw me in the truck and run
me to the the hospital.
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And I knew that that would be a
mistake, that I hadn't stopped
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the bleeding good enough.
And if I pass out these boys,
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they did everything I told them
to do.
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And they did a great job saving
my life, but they didn't know
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what to do on their own.
And they were wound up as well.
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They found me another strap to
tie around my leg.
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And I remember telling them
because they were nervous about
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it, you know, and I said no,
both of you pull as hard as you
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can pull, which they did.
And essentially we basically
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stopped the bleeding.
Or they did.
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Later, I had a police officer
show up before the ambulance.
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He also had a tourniquet.
I think when I when I arrived at
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the hospital, I had three
different things tied around my
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thigh and the bleeding was
basically stopped.
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So, you know, I made it and I
never lost consciousness.
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And I, and I really feel like
this could very likely be
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miraculous because my blood
count at the hospital was 7.
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I'm Speaking of hemoglobin when
it's supposed to be 14.
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I used to say that me and I had
lost half my blood.
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I looked up, I'm real.
I'm real worried that I'm going
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to exaggerate things.
So I started looking up and it's
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I may not have lost 50% of my
blood, but my blood count was
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half of what it should was half
of what it's supposed to be.
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So I didn't know if I would stay
conscious, but I did the whole
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time until they put me out in
the operating room.
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I was, I was awake and alert.
I didn't get fuzzy or anything.
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So it took you to Searcy.
Yes, that's another thing.
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I know.
I feel like I need a helicopter
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and to be going to Little Rock
or Memphis.
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I'm very serious.
That's got to happen.
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And no, there's a little
rainstorm and the helicopters
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were grounded and I find that
out.
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And it still, I don't know how
long this was that I didn't know
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if I would live or not.
But when I heard that news, I'm
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thinking it just doesn't seem to
be my day.
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You know, I'm not going to get
get out of this alive.
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That's that's what I'm thinking.
All right, so you're at Searcy
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Hospital and I'm guessing you go
straight to the ER?
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Oh yeah, and they are waiting on
me.
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There is a room full of shocked
looking people.
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The looks on those people's
faces when they see me come in.
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There is another thing that now
I I feel pretty good about my
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chances now that I'm at the
hospital.
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Made it to the hospital
conscious I.
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Feel like I'm going to live now.
It's.
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Like you've made it past the
corner.
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But the look on those trauma of
people's faces, right, is like,
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wow, I've never seen anything
like this.
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You, you know, that's what it
looked like to me.
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And that was full.
If we're flying in the the
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flight attendants seem OK,
you're fine.
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But if they seem like they're
worried then you should be
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worried.
And you're saying basically you
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experienced the flight
attendants being looking
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worried.
I would.
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Say they did or at least they
looked like they hadn't seen
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this before and and that really
surprised me.
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But I talked to many nurses
during my 8 days in the hospital
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and, and after, even then, they
were like, man, I can't believe
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you made it.
You know, that kind of stuff.
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They were, they were.
I made an impression at the
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hospital, but with the folks
that saw me, yeah.
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So I remember, I think we were
there for a week and you were
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recovering what I think you know
we.
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Were oh, you were still in town?
Yeah, we were still in town for
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the week after we were trying to
decide do we go visit them?
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Because, you know, that's it's
awkward being in the hospital
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and like everyone come and
visiting.
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You got like half your body
showing and and that so we were
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like, I think I may have called
you, I don't remember and just
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said something.
I talked to a lot of people.
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I probably would have told you.
You could come.
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Yeah.
You probably did tell us, but I
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was like.
Now I was in the ICU for two
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days where you can only have two
visitors at a time and and stuff
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like that.
So there are some people that
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saw me in those two days though,
and.
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So from there, I'm, you know, I
know that you had some ups and
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downs with the wound healing.
Even after I was out of the
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hospital.
Right.
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Well, from while you were in the
hospital and then maybe like a
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couple of months.
Oh, well, I had several had five
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or six surgeries, or I'll call
them surgeries.
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The main surgery was amputation,
but there was, they have to go
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back in and clean it.
You know, it's a dirty accident.
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There's, there's pieces of wheat
and stuff in in there and
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they're very determined to get
all of that out because I was in
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danger of infection and I had
some cultures grow infection,
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but I was never, it never got
out of hand.
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They did a good job cleaning it
out several times.
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I I don't know how many times
while I was in the hospital that
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that that.
Happened.
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Did they give you pain stuff for
that or did well?
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I was out for that.
It was it was that type of
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surgery I didn't have.
Every time the surgeon dealt
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with my leg while I was in the
hospital, I was I was put under
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the week or a few days after I
got out was the first time that
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he unwrapped it without with me
being awake.
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So I but it's about the pain
medicine.
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Yes, I was on a lot of drugs and
I was the one of the nights in
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the ICUI had a dream that I
think must have been fueled by
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this.
I woke up thinking I was in a
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had been in a war and it was
almost killed in an airplane.
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And I start trying to get up and
and get out and everything.
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And my wife was allowed to be
with me, which is against which
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is not normal.
She was allowed to be with me
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because, but she was a nurse
that worked at that hospital.
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So that's part of the reason.
And, and she got in my face and
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told me, no, you, you know,
you've been in an accident and,
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and all of that.
And and I knew that stuff was
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true, but that but that dream
seemed so real and I was so
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terrified that that I was trying
to get out.
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And then from the wound healing,
tell me about so you today
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you're wearing a prosthetic and
you know, and probably some of
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the listeners know, but my dad
also had his leg amputated and
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he never, the prosthetic thing
never really worked for him.
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He tried it a little bit, but I
don't, I don't know that he was
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as motivated because I think you
had to be pretty motivated to
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get it to work.
Well, it's, there's a lot of
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things that happen.
It, it's, it hurts it, it's hard
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to do and you get discouraged
and all of those things.
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My circumstance was since it's a
traumatic injury and you're
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talking about surgeries on and
and nerves ripped away and
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things like that.
I I had a wound vac for 2 1/2
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months.
So that means the skin that I'm
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trying to put into this
prosthetic is brand new, You
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know, it's just a few months
old.
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So it's extremely tender and
difficult.
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It was a, it feels like to me,
it was a long process, but when
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I look back, I didn't get a
prosthetic to try until the last
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week of November.
And I could only wear it for a
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couple of hours every other day.
And actually, I didn't even wear
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it every other day part of the
time because it's, it hurt and,
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and, and I wanted it for
Christmas, so for when the
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family was all in.
So Christmas Eve was the
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beginning of the time that I
wore it every day.
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And I've worn it every day
since.
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Not the same one but but.
Yeah, that was the other thing
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because I, I dad would wear it
some and then he would say it
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stopped fitting because I guess
your leg is changing because of
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of the use.
And so then you got to go get
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refitted for a different 1.
And it just seemed like it was a
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long process for him.
It can change during the day
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now.
Mine they told me I would have
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to have another one this year
but I seem to have leveled out
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on the shrinkage.
At least I've been in the same,
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the same size for two or two or
three months now, which is
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unusual.
It's very unusual.
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Normally you're having to make
adjustments for it to work and
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probably that's what he's
talking about and it what you
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might have to make an adjustment
during the same day.
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For example, when I was going
through that, you wear these
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socks to take up space and you
can put on more or less or take
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them off and I would have more
on at the beginning of the day
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and then take some off at the
later on.
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So there's a lot of that that
goes on.
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That's it could be a real hassle
to someone and, and there are a
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lot of people that are real
discouraged and, and all kinds
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of things like that.
And not that I wasn't, I just,
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yes, it takes some motivation,
it takes some endurance, some
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pain, and you just need to
really want to do it.
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Yeah, yeah.
All right, So I think we will
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break off here and we'll call
this a good stopping point.
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And then TuneIn next Thursday
for the second-half of our
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interview with Brian, where
we'll talk about maybe some of
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your reflections since this and
maybe change your career.
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I don't know, you know, things
that you're things that you're
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thinking about.
So, All right, so you know how
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to to take us out of it too.
Remember.
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Yeah.
No, I don't.
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Oh, that's OK.
That's our take.
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Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
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Find us wherever you find
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those who want to watch our
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We are back.
It's like a year later.
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Since the last time I was here.
Since the last time you recorded
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when we were.
Doing basketball teams.
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Yeah, we're, we're drafting
basketball teams.
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This was on a Sunday afternoon I
think.
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Yes.
And then we had this great
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discussion which we got some
feedback on about Calvinism.
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Did you?
And Arminianism.
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Everyone decided that I was
correct.
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I think they decided you're
correct that it's not the most
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important.
Thing.
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Well, that's that's what I
meant.
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So that was Sunday.
I think so.
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And then Saturday, I think it
was just the like 6 days later.
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Right.
We got a horrible call that
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you'd been in a bad farming.
Act was it?
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OK, now I see what you're saying
now.
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So that it was only a week after
we had.
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I think so.
OK.
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All right.
But I know that I looked, I
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watched that recently because
after you asked me to do this
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again and I said, well look,
I've got both legs, so I
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couldn't remember if I did or
not.
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Yeah.
So we got a prayer.
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I think it was just a text that
went out on the WBC prayer
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chain.
Probably you were already in
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router or there by the time it
got that.
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Far.
Oh, you think so?
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Was it in the morning 0?
It was in the.
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Morning.
Oh yeah, I know what time.
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Well, I don't know what time it
happened, but I sent a text to
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my dad and my brother at 8:54
AM.
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Yeah, I know that.
So I think we found out around
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10 or so, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if I would
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even have been at the hospital
yet or not.
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I don't know.
OK, It's hard to.
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Well as you may or may know this
is Brian Coles needs no
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introduction, but I will
introduce him.
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That's always funny when people
say this man needs no
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introduction and they like spend
5 minutes introducing them.
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But we're going to be doing a
two-part interview about the
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accident that happened a year
ago.
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So like this.
So we're recording this on what,
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June 10th?
It happened on the 8th and it.
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Happened on the 8th so you're
one year anniversary for the
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accident was just two.
Days ago I think.
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Yeah.
So you may be a remember that
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one of the time honored
traditions we have for our
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guests is that they have to say
the magic words to get us out of
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the banter time and into the the
official time.
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Do you remember what they are?
Do we need to take it to the
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next level or?
I think that's what we need to
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do.
Let's do that.
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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.
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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next
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level.
All right, so farmer
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extraordinaire.
I'm not sure about that,
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especially in nowadays.
We actually got the farm
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together some.
Yes.
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Back in the day.
Back in high school days, I
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guess.
Or college.
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It was college.
It was in between my sophomore
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and junior years I believe, of
college farmed, and I remember
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walking by a granary.
I think it was the Lindsay Benz.
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OK.
And there was this canonical
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pit.
Yeah.
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And your dad said if that
thing's running, don't ever get
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close to this pit.
Oh.
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Right.
It's dangerous.
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It's dangerous.
So you've been farming for a
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number of.
Years a long times 1990 eights
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when I got out of college, but I
did it the whole time I was
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growing up too.
And takes a math degree to farm,
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right?
It does.
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That's that's as soon as I got
my math done, I came back home
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to the farm.
Turns out I didn't know what I
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was wanting to do, but I ended
up farming.
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I've been there ever since.
And so this is like a normal
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day.
Yes, it was.
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I was harvesting wheat and I was
getting ready for the for the
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next day.
We needed to clean the machine
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out because we were changing
varieties of seed.
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We were actually growing wheat
for seed production and that
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means it needs to be completely
pure from the previous variety
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we had been harvesting.
And this is something that you
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probably have done.
I've done it at least every year
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once, probably more than once
every year for the past 25 years
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or longer.
And your mic is slipping down.
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I don't know.
I'll have to just.
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I can just tell you.
Yeah, just give it a push.
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I don't know.
There you go.
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And so do you remember anything
specific going on that morning?
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Well, this is it's a job nobody
likes to do.
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These machines are large and
they don't clean out on their
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own very well.
So you have to take quite a bit
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of time with air compressor and
A and a wand and blow out stuff
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that doesn't come out on its
own.
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It's very dusty.
You get it all in your face and
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everything else and it takes a
long time.
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It's just a real pain.
Nobody likes to do it.
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And I was thinking water, but
it's air.
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No, it's it's air because if you
used water the stuff would get
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all sticky and sprout and
everything like that.
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So you have like a big error.
Yeah, it was long, 3 or 4 feet
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long with air compressor with a
line running down to the ground.
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The truck, I say down to the
ground.
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A lot of the work is done on the
ground, but but where I was
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actually hurt was up on top of
the machine.
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So this is where I'm I'm
assuming I was never farming
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during the harvesting season, I
was pulling levees right?
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Disc and planting maybe?
Did some planning.
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Did quite a bit of planning.
I did some planning.
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Yes, yeah, lots of field work.
Yeah, bunch of field work, but I
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never did any and we did some
water work, pulled levees in the
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beans.
I think the year I was working
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was the first year y'all used
polypipe.
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Oh really?
Well, we still using it.
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That's a kind of a that's a
hassle as well.
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Hot work.
So we those are some so I never
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so, but I'm assuming this that
this area is like the central
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place that seed goes in when
you're combining.
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And then like if you see lots of
times you see these pictures and
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these 10,000 acre fields in Iowa
where they're combining corn and
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you know you have these combines
and you have a truck running
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through it.
I'm assuming this is the area
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that the seed initially goes to
after its combine and then this
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auger is what would shoot it out
to a truck behind it or or no
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well.
There's a tank that holds about
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3 or 400 bushels of grain and as
you go through the field and
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pull the grain in, it separates
the grain from the husks and
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puts it in this tank.
And when you, what you're
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talking about seeing is if you
get full, you swing the auger
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out and drop it on a truck or a
grain card or something else
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like that.
And that is where I was up in
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this tank, which is large.
It's right behind the cab and
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it's the top of the machine, and
that doesn't clean out all the
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seed just by running the auger.
So I'm blowing the seed to get
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it to that spout where it can go
out.
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We were just dropping it on the
ground.
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We're just cleaning out what was
left behind and the way that it
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falls in there.
It's a large tank and there's
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two horizontal augers that carry
it to a certain place and then
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it goes up and out that spout.
So is there like a main auger in
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the bottom but some horizontal?
Augers that there's two
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horizontal augers in the bottom
and they go to a vertical auger
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that they carry the grain to a
vertical auger which sends it
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out to the truck.
And all this whole area's
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sloped.
It is sloped.
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Yes, it is sloped.
Now the augers have cover over
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them, but there's a gap because
that has to get the grain out.
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So and, and nowadays this
equipment is a lot larger than
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it was 25 years ago when I first
started doing this.
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And I've often wondered if that
gap that lets the grain fall
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into the auger would have been
wide enough back in those days
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when I, in, when I first got out
of college to fall into I, I
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don't know the answer to that,
but I know that these larger
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machines, the, they can carry
more grain and they, and they
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unload it quicker.
So the gap is large enough for
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my foot to go in and, and yes,
the sides are sloped.
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And also it had begun to
sprinkle a little bit.
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And I can't tell you for certain
what happened.
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So you don't like remember
minutes leading up to it or
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anything like that?
Oh, I remember doing, I'm doing
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the work.
I, I really don't have any
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memory gaps from and I never
lost consciousness.
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So I, so I remember everything.
It's just, I'm just doing what I
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always do and I, I just know
that at some point I slipped
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and, and my foot falls into this
gap.
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This is the gap between the
horizontal auger and the ground.
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And, and the floor, well, the
gap would be, there's a cover
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over the auger, but there's a
gap to let the grain fall into
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it.
And so I fall in there, my foot
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goes into where the the auger is
running.
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And by the way, this is not
something you're supposed to be
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doing.
There are safety features on the
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combine where if you're not in
the seat, it can't be running or
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it won't only run for five
seconds or something.
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So we actually have a person sit
in the seat.
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There's a ladder on the back of
the machine that you have to
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climb up to get up here.
That ladder has to be folded up
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or it won't run.
And all over the place, every
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year, farmers are doing this
thing that I'm doing, breaking
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the rules, breaking the safety
rules, having somebody sit in
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the seat and go in here and blow
this, save some time to clean
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this out.
Our farm will never be doing it
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this way again.
And I honestly, I doubt that
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anyone in my county will do it
again.
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I've heard that comment from
several people because yes,
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we've all done it.
And it's, it's farmers do
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dangerous things.
And, and it turns out sometimes
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we do foolish things.
And, and that's what happened
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after all this time, 25 or 30
years of, of doing this.
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Now I slip in there possibly
because of the rain.
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It wasn't a rain, but there was
sprinkle.
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I don't know if I stepped on a
wet spot and slipped like you
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said the the side is sloped, but
I fell down and it my foot goes
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in there and this machine pulls
me towards the vertical auger
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for a short time and then it
turned loose.
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And when it turned loose and I
pulled my leg out, I saw a bone
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and it was disgusting and it was
terrifying and my reaction was
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considerable time of screaming
and banging on the window for my
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son to turn it off.
I could see the knot of my
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ankle.
You know, the not on the yes, I
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could see that exposed.
So just like in a war movie when
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you see somebody get their leg
blown off, I had about that same
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reaction.
I am shocked and terrified and
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it's natural.
I'm just screaming and it's I
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mean not on purpose.
It's just happening, you know,
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and I immediately try to climb
out of there.
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Now this tank is, if I'm
standing in the bottom of it,
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you could see my head, but it's
still, it's a large tank and
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it's got a couple of steps in
rails to climb out, which I did
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climb out, but I climbed out
with a foot missing.
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And I remember going to put that
foot down and realizing I
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couldn't use it.
It's just I was pretty wound up
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so I didn't have any trouble
getting out, but it was arms and
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one leg and desperation.
So how many people were there
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with you at this?
There was two.
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There was one in the in the cab.
That was my son Samuel, my
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oldest.
He's about 22 at the time.
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And another young man, South
African worker, that's only was
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about 20, and he was on the
ground doing something, maybe
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some other cleaning.
I'm, I'm not sure what he was
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doing, but he's probably
cleaning out his grain cart
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because we have to clean every
piece of equipment out.
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So I think that's what he was
doing.
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So I did have someone with me.
And so when I get out of the
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tank, there's a large flat place
behind this hopper, which is
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where the engine is.
It's a large engine.
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Yeah, I saw.
It I saw you post a video yes
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recently on.
Standing on top of it, I don't
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know how tall.
Sorry.
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I don't know how tall the
machine is, but it's one of the
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larger machines that we use, and
this is at the very top of it.
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But the engine is large and it's
got to be covered, you know, to
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keep stuff out of it.
So there's a large flat place
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and that's where I went to sit
down on the sat down and I took
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my belt off because I've seen TV
and I know what I have to do.
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Actually, I should mention, now
that I'm out and I'm standing
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upright, I see muscles hanging
out.
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I see that bone and I see blood
flow at a rate that changed my
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life.
It, it shocked me and, and
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terrified me.
And at that moment I realized
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that there was a significant
chance that I would not survive.
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I'd never seen blood flow like
that.
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I, I told one time I was
speaking at the church and I, I
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referenced the verse in when God
is telling Noah that people who
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murder other people will be put
to death because of, you know,
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that's not I'm selling the wrong
thing.
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There's, it's when he's telling
Noah not to eat blood.
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He's telling Noah not to eat
blood because the life is in the
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blood.
And my life was flowing out of
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me at an alarming rate.
And so I knew from TV that I had
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to stop that.
That was my only hope.
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Is the train going to bother us?
No, the train's fine.
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I think we'll, we'll, we'll edit
it out fine.
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So that I knew that the only
thing that mattered at the
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moment was to stop the blood
flow.
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I was wearing a belt and I tied
it around my leg twice because
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the first time I did it, I ran
the loop through the buckle like
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you would put it on, and I
didn't feel like that was good
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enough.
So I tied it in a knot and that
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was all I could do.
So I'm sitting there thinking
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there's a pretty good chance
that this is my final hour and
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I've done what I could do.
So I that's when I turned to
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God.
And it's interesting to me.
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At least I didn't ask him for my
life.
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I wanted to live.
It was my daughter's birthday.
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I had a son about to leave to go
on a vacation with some friends.
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I've got 10 kids and a wife at
home.
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I wanted to live, but my all I
said to God was that my life and
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my soul is in your hands and and
that's all that I said.
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And then I sent the texts to my
dad and my brother who farmed
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with with me and who knew where
I was.
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And the text at 8:54 on Saturday
morning said ambulance, now I
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might die.
And my dad got that text as he
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was trapped behind a train 20 or
30 minutes away.
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I'm not sure where my brother
Michael was.
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He got there pretty quick, but
it was up to them to call 911.
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And.
So Sam or the the other guy
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hadn't called 911.
Yet I think they had I, I don't
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know.
I think that Samuel called them.
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They called my dad and, and
Michael, he was a little
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hysterical, but I don't know if
he called them before he came
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and got me down or after.
Probably after would be my
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guess.
So.
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So that means they had probably
called first, I thought, for the
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first time this week or last
week.
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But why didn't I call 911?
That's the first time.
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It's a year later.
And I think, well, why didn't I
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do?
And then pretty quickly I
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realized why.
It's because I thought that I
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might be about to die.
I didn't know how much
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consciousness I had left.
And I called my wife and that's
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the only phone call I made.
I sent the text.
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And then I called my wife and
apologized for being such a bad
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husband and told her I was hurt
and that I didn't know what was
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going to happen, but that I
loved her and for her not to
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come out there.
And that was all the
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communication.
I I didn't send any more texts
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or I didn't know how much longer
I would be awake.
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My son Samuel showed up.
He climbed up there and carried
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me down to the ground.
It's 10 feet off the ground.
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So this is you're out of the
hopper, I'm out of the hopper
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platform on top, tearing you
from the platform to the ground.
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Top of the engine platform so
there's a couple of steps down
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to another level and then
there's a ladder down to the
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ground and he first had to get
the ladder down which we had had
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some was difficult to do but he
was determined and and he
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carried me down from there
without dropping me and and even
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this is I don't know how that
happened.
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He's not any bigger than I am.
He's younger and and, you know,
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strong but.
He doesn't have 25 years of
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farming strength.
No, no, not like that.
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And he, he carried me down to
the ground and I never wasn't
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dropped.
I didn't fall.
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That's that's a miracle in
itself.
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Now, when I got to the ground,
he wanted Samuel, my son wanted
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to throw me in the truck and run
me to the the hospital.
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And I knew that that would be a
mistake, that I hadn't stopped
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the bleeding good enough.
And if I pass out these boys,
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they did everything I told them
to do.
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And they did a great job saving
my life, but they didn't know
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what to do on their own.
And they were wound up as well.
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They found me another strap to
tie around my leg.
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And I remember telling them
because they were nervous about
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it, you know, and I said no,
both of you pull as hard as you
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can pull, which they did.
And essentially we basically
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stopped the bleeding.
Or they did.
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Later, I had a police officer
show up before the ambulance.
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He also had a tourniquet.
I think when I when I arrived at
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the hospital, I had three
different things tied around my
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thigh and the bleeding was
basically stopped.
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So, you know, I made it and I
never lost consciousness.
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And I, and I really feel like
this could very likely be
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miraculous because my blood
count at the hospital was 7.
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I'm Speaking of hemoglobin when
it's supposed to be 14.
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I used to say that me and I had
lost half my blood.
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I looked up, I'm real.
I'm real worried that I'm going
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to exaggerate things.
So I started looking up and it's
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I may not have lost 50% of my
blood, but my blood count was
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half of what it should was half
of what it's supposed to be.
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So I didn't know if I would stay
conscious, but I did the whole
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time until they put me out in
the operating room.
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I was, I was awake and alert.
I didn't get fuzzy or anything.
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So it took you to Searcy.
Yes, that's another thing.
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I know.
I feel like I need a helicopter
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and to be going to Little Rock
or Memphis.
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I'm very serious.
That's got to happen.
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And no, there's a little
rainstorm and the helicopters
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were grounded and I find that
out.
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And it still, I don't know how
long this was that I didn't know
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if I would live or not.
But when I heard that news, I'm
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thinking it just doesn't seem to
be my day.
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You know, I'm not going to get
get out of this alive.
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That's that's what I'm thinking.
All right, so you're at Searcy
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Hospital and I'm guessing you go
straight to the ER?
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Oh yeah, and they are waiting on
me.
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There is a room full of shocked
looking people.
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The looks on those people's
faces when they see me come in.
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There is another thing that now
I I feel pretty good about my
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chances now that I'm at the
hospital.
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Made it to the hospital
conscious I.
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Feel like I'm going to live now.
It's.
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Like you've made it past the
corner.
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But the look on those trauma of
people's faces, right, is like,
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wow, I've never seen anything
like this.
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You, you know, that's what it
looked like to me.
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And that was full.
If we're flying in the the
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flight attendants seem OK,
you're fine.
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But if they seem like they're
worried then you should be
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worried.
And you're saying basically you
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experienced the flight
attendants being looking
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worried.
I would.
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Say they did or at least they
looked like they hadn't seen
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this before and and that really
surprised me.
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But I talked to many nurses
during my 8 days in the hospital
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and, and after, even then, they
were like, man, I can't believe
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you made it.
You know, that kind of stuff.
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They were, they were.
I made an impression at the
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hospital, but with the folks
that saw me, yeah.
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So I remember, I think we were
there for a week and you were
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recovering what I think you know
we.
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Were oh, you were still in town?
Yeah, we were still in town for
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the week after we were trying to
decide do we go visit them?
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Because, you know, that's it's
awkward being in the hospital
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and like everyone come and
visiting.
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You got like half your body
showing and and that so we were
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like, I think I may have called
you, I don't remember and just
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said something.
I talked to a lot of people.
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I probably would have told you.
You could come.
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Yeah.
You probably did tell us, but I
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was like.
Now I was in the ICU for two
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days where you can only have two
visitors at a time and and stuff
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like that.
So there are some people that
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saw me in those two days though,
and.
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So from there, I'm, you know, I
know that you had some ups and
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downs with the wound healing.
Even after I was out of the
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hospital.
Right.
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Well, from while you were in the
hospital and then maybe like a
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couple of months.
Oh, well, I had several had five
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or six surgeries, or I'll call
them surgeries.
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The main surgery was amputation,
but there was, they have to go
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back in and clean it.
You know, it's a dirty accident.
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There's, there's pieces of wheat
and stuff in in there and
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they're very determined to get
all of that out because I was in
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danger of infection and I had
some cultures grow infection,
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but I was never, it never got
out of hand.
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They did a good job cleaning it
out several times.
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I I don't know how many times
while I was in the hospital that
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that that.
Happened.
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Did they give you pain stuff for
that or did well?
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I was out for that.
It was it was that type of
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surgery I didn't have.
Every time the surgeon dealt
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with my leg while I was in the
hospital, I was I was put under
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the week or a few days after I
got out was the first time that
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he unwrapped it without with me
being awake.
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So I but it's about the pain
medicine.
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Yes, I was on a lot of drugs and
I was the one of the nights in
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the ICUI had a dream that I
think must have been fueled by
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this.
I woke up thinking I was in a
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had been in a war and it was
almost killed in an airplane.
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And I start trying to get up and
and get out and everything.
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And my wife was allowed to be
with me, which is against which
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is not normal.
She was allowed to be with me
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because, but she was a nurse
that worked at that hospital.
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So that's part of the reason.
And, and she got in my face and
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told me, no, you, you know,
you've been in an accident and,
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and all of that.
And and I knew that stuff was
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true, but that but that dream
seemed so real and I was so
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terrified that that I was trying
to get out.
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And then from the wound healing,
tell me about so you today
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you're wearing a prosthetic and
you know, and probably some of
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the listeners know, but my dad
also had his leg amputated and
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he never, the prosthetic thing
never really worked for him.
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He tried it a little bit, but I
don't, I don't know that he was
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as motivated because I think you
had to be pretty motivated to
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get it to work.
Well, it's, there's a lot of
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things that happen.
It, it's, it hurts it, it's hard
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to do and you get discouraged
and all of those things.
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My circumstance was since it's a
traumatic injury and you're
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talking about surgeries on and
and nerves ripped away and
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things like that.
I I had a wound vac for 2 1/2
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months.
So that means the skin that I'm
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trying to put into this
prosthetic is brand new, You
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know, it's just a few months
old.
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So it's extremely tender and
difficult.
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It was a, it feels like to me,
it was a long process, but when
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I look back, I didn't get a
prosthetic to try until the last
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week of November.
And I could only wear it for a
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couple of hours every other day.
And actually, I didn't even wear
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it every other day part of the
time because it's, it hurt and,
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and, and I wanted it for
Christmas, so for when the
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family was all in.
So Christmas Eve was the
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beginning of the time that I
wore it every day.
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And I've worn it every day
since.
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Not the same one but but.
Yeah, that was the other thing
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because I, I dad would wear it
some and then he would say it
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stopped fitting because I guess
your leg is changing because of
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of the use.
And so then you got to go get
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refitted for a different 1.
And it just seemed like it was a
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long process for him.
It can change during the day
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now.
Mine they told me I would have
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to have another one this year
but I seem to have leveled out
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on the shrinkage.
At least I've been in the same,
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the same size for two or two or
three months now, which is
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unusual.
It's very unusual.
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Normally you're having to make
adjustments for it to work and
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probably that's what he's
talking about and it what you
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might have to make an adjustment
during the same day.
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For example, when I was going
through that, you wear these
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socks to take up space and you
can put on more or less or take
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them off and I would have more
on at the beginning of the day
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and then take some off at the
later on.
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So there's a lot of that that
goes on.
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That's it could be a real hassle
to someone and, and there are a
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lot of people that are real
discouraged and, and all kinds
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of things like that.
And not that I wasn't, I just,
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yes, it takes some motivation,
it takes some endurance, some
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pain, and you just need to
really want to do it.
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Yeah, yeah.
All right, So I think we will
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break off here and we'll call
this a good stopping point.
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And then TuneIn next Thursday
for the second-half of our
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interview with Brian, where
we'll talk about maybe some of
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your reflections since this and
maybe change your career.
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I don't know, you know, things
that you're things that you're
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thinking about.
So, All right, so you know how
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to to take us out of it too.
Remember.
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Yeah.
No, I don't.
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Oh, that's OK.
That's our take.
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Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
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