Teleological Argument Part 2 | Layers of Design

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So Michael, yeah, this is coming
way late, but I want to recap

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Father's Day a little bit now.
This is not coming out till the

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end of July, but Father's Day
wasn't Father's Day wasn't that

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long ago when we were recording.
Yeah, 2 days ago I.

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Don't know if you did you get 2
days ago Yeah very recently.

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I don't know if you got any any
gifts from the from the fam I.

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Did.
Yeah, we got, my dad was in town

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got him just, you know, few
different gifts.

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One of the gifts we got him was
this was this koozie.

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He really likes my mom and dad,
like love, they drink Diet Coke.

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They drink Diet Coke too much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And, you know, we're trying to
be trendy with the culture.

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So we got this koozie that says
I identify as water so he can

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slide that on his Diet Coke and
boom, he's healthy.

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He's like, I'm on my 8th cup cup
of water today, you know?

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We're good.
That's very nice.

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So you.
Know.

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And any gifts that you got,
Zach?

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I got some stuff for the old
Blackstone, You know, I was

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actually, I grilled, grilled a
little bit today.

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Oh, you did what y'all what
y'all have today?

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Did some, did some chicken bacon
kind of bacon ranch kind of

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sandwiches and I, you know, put
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I just, I love putting bacon on
the Blackstone, just, you know,

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so.
So yeah.

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And bacon too.
Last night I did bacon and

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sausage and pancakes and eggs.
Man, so good.

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The pancakes like in the bacon
grease and it just, it just made

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you can't.
Well, Jill does not like the

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pancakes, the bacon grease.
What so?

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So I scrape all the the bacon
grease off and then we put

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butter on it, 'cause she's, but
she's very happy with the taste

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because she's like these.
She's like, most of the time

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pancakes don't taste like
anything like you get at the

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restaurant.
Oh yeah, but they do.

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But they like she's like these
taste just like Cracker Barrel

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pancakes, this particular mix
and you know when you cook them

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in the butter on the griddle,
so.

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Cracker, have you been at
Cracker Barrel recently?

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I have not.
Dude, I'll tell you what, it had

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it to me.
It seemed better days.

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It used to be like the premiere,
like my grandparents were like

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always stop at Cracker Barrel.
Like you would always stop at

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Cracker Barrel on road trips.
It's we the last time we went,

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we were on a road trip and we
were like, it's not lunchtime,

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they're not going to be busy.
We should be able to get in and

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out and we needed we needed that
longer time.

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This was in Tupelo, Ms. I've.
Been there many times.

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And we got off on that, like the
little Corinth Drive.

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We went to that Cracker Barrel
that's kind of over there by,

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you know, just down the street.
I could, I could just give you

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all the, I can see exactly what
it is.

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We waited like 2 1/2 hours, 30
minutes before.

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Like we were seated.
There's no one in the

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restaurant.
The waitress doesn't even come

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over and like say, hey, anything
for like 30 minutes.

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I was about to leave.
Like she finally comes over and

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I say something like we're on a
road trip.

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She's like, oh, we're so sorry.
It will be fine.

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You know, we're going to really.
And it drug out, drug out.

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And I was like, this was we
dropped like 2 and I was like, I

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can't do it.
Plus, you know, I think they're

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going a little bit woke.
So, you know, they had they had

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some, you know, rainbow
furniture out front in one of

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them and stuff the.
Rocking chair was rainbow.

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The checker set was rainbow.
Absolutely.

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They had A and this was a couple
years ago and they like changed

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the menu changed.
They have changed their menu on

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there.
Are some that they've even

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gotten rid of the all the old
antique decor and stuff?

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Yeah.
And I was like, for all this, I

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can just do Waffle House.
I feel, I feel like they really

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went against their target
demographic with that one.

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You know what it's like you, You
have a demographic that loves

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you.
I think do making all these

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changes is not going to make the
other demographic love you.

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It's just going to make your
demographic not love you

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anymore.
And then and then you're just

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floundering.
I feel like grandpa was going

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there, not for the mimosas.
Like, like it's like crazy to

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make all those changes because
yeah, I've, I've been there not

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a lot, but the last couple times
I've been there just wasn't a

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good experience.
It was like just not what wasn't

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what I remembered.
The Cracker Burr store, on the

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other hand, seems to be firing
all cylinders like they've done

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all the crazy stuff as always.
So you know that that's still.

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Maybe.
I, I, yeah, I don't and I, I'm

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not, I'm not like a shop there,
but it seems like they're

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always, maybe I don't know if
there's cuz they're not busy,

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but everything's like really,
well, not that I go in there a

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lot, but seems like they've got
so much stuff that diversity

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and, you know, whatever it is, I
feel like.

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Diversity.
You don't mean like the woke

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diversity, just a bunch of
different.

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Stuff a bunch of different
stuff, whether it's like old

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timey stuff.
I feel like they got the little

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the little like ball with like
the weasel thing, you know what

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I'm saying?
Like that's like a classic

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Cracker Barrel thing.
When I was there, you always

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turned those toys on and you
know, they just, you know, got

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us rocking the rocking chair,
played some checkers.

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It's just, you know, classic,
classic stuff.

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But man.
So I picked, it wasn't really

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gifted to me.
It was like you can go pick it

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out.
So I took the money that my

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mother-in-law gave me and the
mother the money that my wife

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and one of my daughter's has
pledged to me.

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Nice.
I like the way you said that

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it's been pledged but.
Yeah, because in in Arkansas is

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helping Tommy.
Tommy.

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Trees.
OK, Yeah, with chainsaw.

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OK, so I picked up a chainsaw
from Oh, nice.

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Not the room, not that one, but
they have like Craftsman.

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I used he, he had both.
He had a steel and a Craftsman

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battery operated.
And you know what, for the size

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trees that I'm taking down in
our backyard, that that battery

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operated one is gonna be fine
'cause I'm not cutting a big

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tree down.
Battery operated.

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Everything seems to be pretty
awesome.

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Yeah, it's like so quiet to like
you can like mow your I It's

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pretty amazing because you hear
that and you're like, man, does

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it have power?
These things.

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I mean, I'm not saying they're
like industrial whatever, but it

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they're pretty.
They do pretty good.

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Yeah, it was it, it did fine.
I mean it cut until it just

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stopped cutting cause the
battery went down.

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So for for Father's Day I got
him some battery so that he can

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have one.
He can you know be charging 1

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and I got the only one he had
was 2 amp hours and that's kind

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of small.
So I got him one that had a pack

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of A4 amp hour and a 2 amp hour.
So he has a total of 8 amp hours

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of work that he could use, which
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bit with that now.
So yeah.

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Dude, I love it.
Father's Day for for the win.

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You know what's the next
holiday, I guess is July 4th,

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the next thing that's coming up.
Yeah, no Kings Days, July 4th,

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where we kicked King George out.
No kings say get out of here.

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Let's get out of here.
But but by the time this airs,

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that should are you?
Oh, that's right.

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Yeah.
We're we're looking forward to

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Labor Day and.
Labor Day will be will be what

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people can school do in the.
Startup that is crazy.

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That is crazy.
Oh my.

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Goodness, yeah.
Pickleball with the church.

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Pickleball August 3rd or August
10th?

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Which?
Which one is it?

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Oh, I also have another another
banter that could be

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controversial, but we'll talk
about it later.

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On another episode.
Another.

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Episode.
Is it about the 10th or third?

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Yeah, because I asked.
Because I suggested pickleball.

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You did.
Can you say, well, we were doing

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pickleball again?
And in my defense, I think the

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third was thrown out by you
initially.

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I, I think I said maybe like
that just that first Sunday in

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August, not knowing, not looking
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And then I looked at it as the
third, our anniversary is the

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4th.
So it's like we're probably

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going to be, you know?
Just do your have your

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anniversary at the pickle bar.
It'd be great.

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It'll be great, yeah.
Yeah.

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Be fun they would be your wife
would love it because.

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It can be right next to the
pickleball.

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That would be great.
Your wife would see a lot of

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purpose and that decision.
Yeah, Yeah, it would be.

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It would be.
Meaningful, but you thought and

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designed it.
It wasn't random chance.

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No, no, because it could be
necessity or not necessity or I

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love it chance or not chance
yet.

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So you're, I think you're
alluding to the topic of our

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podcast.
This is episode 2.

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Episode 2.
Of the theological argument or

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we're going to talk about, you
know, the sun and the stars and

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the Earth and the moon.
So with that, let's take it to

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the next level.
From the hearts of the Low

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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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OK, so today, yes, most circles,
if you talk about the

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theological argument, especially
like the philosophical

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apologetic ones, they're just
going to go straight to the fine

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tuning argument, which I think
is a great, very powerful

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argument.
But it feels like they've

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abandoned some of the other
stuff that's that's there.

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And so this episode, we wanted
to look at some of those other

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things that, you know, are there
that we, I, I think it's harder

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to defend these in a debate.
OK, yeah, that's probably why

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they get skipped over.
A little bit, yeah.

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Yeah.
Because, you know, you get into

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evolution and all this other
stuff, but I'm not willing to

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give up that ground.
Of course, I'm not debating

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someone either, but I think that
these are some good, good

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things.
So just a recap of what we

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talked about last time.
We did talk about specified

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complexity.
So it's specific and complex.

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So like if a magician shows you
a card, that's not that big of a

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deal 'cause there's 52 in there.
But if he shows you one that you

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signed that, you know, went
through some crazy thing that

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was locked up that was complex
and specific to you, that's a

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big deal.
Talked about irreducible

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complexity.
And then we talked about kind of

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the three options for the, the,
the apparent design that we see

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there were the fine tune that we
see it could be necessary.

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If it's not necessary, it's not
then it's not necessary.

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And then that falls into two
categories of chance of design

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and it can't be just a little
bit of design, but mostly

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chance.
It's like.

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Yeah, you got to make your bed
and lie in it, Yeah.

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It's got to be one of those.
So we're going to talk about

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some of the layers of apparent
design that we see in our

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universe, and we're going to
start with our genetic code.

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OK, Someone famously said that
you wouldn't.

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Microsoft would not code by
chance, although some maybe some

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hackers would disagree with
that.

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Shots fired.
But you know the genetic code is

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a software code.
Now you have a degree in.

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What was your bachelor's degree
in?

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It was more or less you don't
want this answer.

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I'm going to give you a much
longer answer.

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It was more I went to school, I
wish I could have done

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kinesiology because I've been
better.

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But my degree they did not have
enough doctoral or PhDs to make

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it work for a kinesiology
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So I was a pre physical therapy
which basically meant I had to

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take all.
I had to take more on the

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science department than the.
Like.

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Exercise department which was
stupid.

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So I have like stupid bio
organic chemistry classes, micro

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like things that like it's good
for foundational but for really

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PT you just need like 8 credits
to physics, 8 credits to

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chemistry, 8 of biology.
You just do like basics.

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But then I had to take all these
stupid classes and I did not

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take movement science classes as
much.

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But anyway, here we are, yeah.
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So you probably know DNA has
those 4 bases, right?

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GTAG.
GTA and CI believe and then RNA

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one of those gets swapped.
Something, yeah.

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Yeah, and one of those goes
away.

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We're trying to remember, but
basically those are called

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codons because they code for
amino acids.

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So if you put, you know, I think
they're like groups of three

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like AAT or AT and you put those
together, then you're coding for

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different amino acids.
And that is how you build your,

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your proteins, building blocks
and your enzymes.

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So I've, I've said it like this
before.

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Imagine that you had coded for
your house this long string of

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construction materials.
And what happened was you would

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get this delivered on site and
then like, you would put like

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the first little bit of that
long string.

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It would be miles long maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then you wrapped it and
formed it so that all, you know,

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boom, your stairs are there.
You know, your floor is there,

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your cabinets are there.
And like all of all of these

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construction materials wrapped
in them one way only to form

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your house.
That's basically what's

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happening when you your DNA is
coding for these very complex

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enzymes.
It's not just, Yeah, I think on,

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on one level, you're like GATC.
It's not that many, but it's

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like, no, it's like when you're
stringing these together, it is

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very complex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And you, you it just the fact
that anyone would think this

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would come by chance.
Yeah, that's that's tough.

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And someone's also mentioned,
you know, you have pieces in

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your cell.
It's like your DNA is the record

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but you also have to have a
record player.

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Maybe I should update that.
A.

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C.
DEI don't.

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And a CD player.
Or maybe I should update that

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MP3MP3 player, but you have the
thing that has the information

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on it.
But that does no good.

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Unless you can read it and
replicate it and understand

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what's there.
And both of those mechanisms

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have to be there together.
And so there's been some ideas

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about how my one of those might
evolve by themselves, but it's

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like, how does that happen?
Seeing it boggles the mind.

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Yeah, it's like even the most,
Again, I feel like these

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skeptics, it's like their only
appeal is Infinity or you know

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what I mean?
Like it's like, that's like the,

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I feel like I just hear that so
much because I think they

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recognize that it isn't.
That's all you could.

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That's all you can.
Yeah, Yeah, we have.

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We already talked about some of
these, like these very complex

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molecular machines that we see,
like even when I was talking

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like there are these little
things that look like they are

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basically forklifts of the cell
that carry things into.

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It's kind of funny when you see
like under the like how things

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move and stuff it is.
It's like a very complex city

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just in your cell.
We talked about the flagellum

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last time.
You know, it's like a motor that

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helps the that bacterium get
where it's going.

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If you look at our ecosystems,
you know there's a reason that

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you know we don't want all the
bees killed.

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Yeah, man.
You just watch the Bee Movie and

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you know, cool.
Have you seen the big movie?

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I've never not seen the Bee
Movie.

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That's Lydia's favorite.
Movie.

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Is it really?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Big Seinfeld fan.

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Yeah, well, I don't.
Know if she's a big.

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Seinfeld fan?
I'm kidding.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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But, you know, we look at our
Earth, things seem to be

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balanced to where you have
certain, you know, ecosystems,

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certain systems that, you know,
provide certain nutrients or

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they do certain functions,
certain organisms in an

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ecosystem.
I talked about, you know,

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driving, taking an exit to my
parents' house, Judsonia,

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probably like exit 52 on Hwy. 57
in, in Arkansas.

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So you know exactly where I am
and I see this dead armadillo,

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man, you know where I'm going
with this.

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I knew before you got to this,
yeah.

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And I see this vulture eating
the dead armadillo, but it's

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eating it from its rear end.
Like it's head.

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It's inside the body cavity from
the rear end.

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I'm like that's, you know,
that's a good thing because that

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you need that vulture is
devouring this this animal.

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So that's all part of those
finally balanced ecosystems.

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It's great.
People are like always

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composting things, like it all
like works, you know what I'm

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saying?
Yeah, You know, so it is, it is

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pretty incredible how there's
something to take care of

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something.
And and it's like even these

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people that don't believe in a
creator are like the circle of

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life or you know what I mean?
Like they're like, this is

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great, you know?
Yeah, and there we could go on.

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We could make a whole.
We could just look at the

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biodiversity of life.
We could take a whole episode

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for that.
I will mention there are like so

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many animals that look like
other animals to scare predators

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away.
Like you have the moths with the

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eyes on it and it's like that
looks like a perfect eye.

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There are some Caterpillar that
looks like a snake.

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Have you seen this?
There's some flowers that look

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like like they like.
It looks just like an animal.

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That's amazing, yeah.
That information had to come

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from somewhere, so.
Just random, man.

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Just just just appear.
Yeah, there's yeah, I love it.

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Example after example after
example.

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Yeah, All right, so now we're
gonna go from live to Earth

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itself.
Earth has plate tectonics, and

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if you're Phoebe and you're
afraid of volcanoes and lava,

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it's not a good thing.
But if you need carbon silicate

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cycles so that those are renewed
all around the globe so that

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life can happen, well, then you
need plate tectonics because the

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lava coming up and the rock
getting melted, all of that

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forms a cycle.
And what drives our plate

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tectonics that we, from what we
can tell are heavy radioactive

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elements in our crust and the
heat from those and the heat

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from the core that is driving
those.

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So, you know, we have just the
right amount of radioactive

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elements in our crust to help
help drive some of some of those

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things going because those warm
everything up.

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I love it.
Yeah.

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Is man, have you, have you been
in a earthquake before?

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I have not have you?
No, not been in earthquake.

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There's been earthquake, but
been to I I my favorite trip

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ever.
When we went to, we went to

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Iceland, a lot of volcanoes,
that kind of thing.

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And there were so many like
islands that were like, so like

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this island popped up this year
or whatever from, you know, from

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volcanic activity.
It wasn't here and then all of a

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sudden it was here.
And that's pretty amazing.

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And then we recently, too, went
to the Volcano National Park in

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Hawaii.
And, you know, yeah, they show

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you how all these things happen,
you know?

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There's a recent video that hit
and if I'm listening to this

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while I'm producing it and I
remember, I'll put.

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I'll try to finally put the link
in the in the in the notes, but

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it shows the first slip fault
earthquake caught on camera.

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You should you should look at it
because there is like a building

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that's like built right on this
side of the fault and you can

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see like the earth just moved
like these two pieces of land

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just move past each other like 3
feet and it's like that is

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insane.
First time that we know of it is

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caught on camera because it's
not like a lot of rolling and

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stuff.
It's just like.

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Yeah, it's, it's pretty.
Yeah.

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It's like so cool.
All the stuff that we just don't

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see here 'cause we're not around
a lot of it like walking through

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like lava tunnels or it's like
all these things are just like

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so crazy.
I did make my wife when we were

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in Iceland, she was pregnant
with Jordan and there was like

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an active volcano and we were
hiking and she was like, I'm

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pregnant.
But we we were able to hike

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like, pretty good.
And it was like, they're like,

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you need to be everything.
Everyone is like when you're

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pregnant, you can't do certain
things and there's like fumes.

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From lava you can do it's.
Fine.

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We did it.
We made it.

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It was, it was a little kind of
little dicey in the moment.

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But afterwards, he's really glad
we did it.

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That's good.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right, so plate tectonics,
ozone layer, you know we have

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basically you were growing up
during the time where ozone,

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there's a whole ozone.
It's yeah.

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That's all cleared up.
I mean, for good reason 'cause

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we stopped using some certain
chemicals that would, you know,

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knock out the ozone and that's
depleted.

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But the, you know, the ozone
layer, how that forms it, the

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how our, our Earth is able to
hold those different layers of

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atmosphere blocks the
ultraviolet radiation, our axial

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tilt 23.5° stabilizes, gives us,
you know, rhythms and

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temperature variations.
You know, if that were more, if

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it was dead on, that's not a
good thing 'cause you then you

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don't get seasons and then we
need seasons.

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If it's more than it's like much
more chaotic, you know, 'cause I

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think Uranus is basically tilted
where it almost like spins

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facing.
Oh, that's interesting.

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So.
It's like always.

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Yeah, yeah.
The distance from the sun, we're

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in that Goldilocks zone where
water can be liquid and solid

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and gas.
We have abundance of water again

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on the old Earth view that water
was not there with the

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protoplanet when it formed.
So we believe, you know,

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scientists believe that some
very water heavy comet smacked

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the Earth in its early days and
delivered water.

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So if that's the case, then we
have water, extraterrestrial

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water that you're drinking right
there.

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Dude, I knew.
I knew Dasani.

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There's something to it.
But we have an abundance of

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water more than what we should
have had.

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We just formed naturally, so we
so something brought us some

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some extra water or godspoken in
existence.

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Either way, that's.
Right.

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We do have a very strong
magnetic field.

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Looks like it's going to flip
here sometime in the next

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thousand 2000 years, sometime
between one year and 1000 years.

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We don't know when it's going
to.

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Happen.
Have you heard of these people

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that are like gravity's not
real?

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It's like more electromagnetism
or, you know, or it's like more

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along those lines versus you're.
Saying maybe you're talking

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about like star formation.
Stars are held together together

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by electromagnetism rather than
gravity.

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That might be where they like
draw some of that from.

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Like there's I'll, I'll have to
show you this like popped up

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maybe like a year ago.
Not a credible source, but

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there's like this actor Howard
Terrence Howard who went on

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again, not endorsing Joe Rogan
podcast, but he was like, I've

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unlocked this like new
technology that they're trying

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to suppress and it's like
gravity's not real.

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It's all based on, but it, I
think it takes some of the

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theory and they apply it and
they're like, this is the key to

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like everything.
He was really passionate about

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it.
Maybe I need to listen to that,

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But we do have a magnetic field
Shields us from the solar wind.

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The solar wind is actually
pretty strong.

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You know, we have this probe
that we sent out, Voyager 1,

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Voyeur 2, one of those it has
crossed over and it's starting

449
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:30,320
to get into that region where
the it's the end of basically

450
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,880
the sun's changing the
environment and so he gets it,

451
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,920
gets out into it.
Actually, the can create a sound

452
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,200
based on the particles that it's
hitting because the Sun's

453
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,560
particles basically clear a path
around the galactic particles,

454
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,920
you know, kind of Shields us
from those.

455
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080
But then we have a magnetic
field that Shields us from the

456
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,120
sun's particles that it's
sending.

457
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,520
So if you've ever seen the
Northern Lights or if you've

458
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,640
been on the other hemisphere,
the Southern lights, that is the

459
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,600
the solar wind basically getting
taken care of by our magnetic.

460
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,360
Story.
Is it just like what's the like

461
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,960
in the last year?
Everyone's like, I saw the

462
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,360
Northern Lights from Alabama,
you know what I'm saying?

463
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,880
Yeah.
I don't know why.

464
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,840
Why did that happen?
Yeah.

465
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,040
Why does everyone see the
Northern Lights every day now?

466
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,760
Like it just like, or they're
like, hey, but when I you know,

467
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,520
it just seems like everyone sees
it all the time.

468
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200
Yeah.
So our sun is on a 13 year, I

469
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,760
believe it's 13 year cycle where
it will go from hardly no

470
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,080
activity to a lot of activity.
And really this is, you know,

471
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,240
you've, if you've ever seen a
magnet and you see those

472
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,240
magnetic wires.
So those, the sun's spinning and

473
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,800
for some reason it's around 13
years where it does a complete

474
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,360
cycle of those wires going,
going from pre calm to really

475
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,880
messy back to pretty calm.
And when those wires, the, I

476
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,680
call them wires, but they're
basically the magnetic lines,

477
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,960
when they're messy, it's
throwing a lot of stuff out in

478
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,280
the solar wind.
And so if it's putting a lot of

479
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,880
solar wind out or if it has like
a slow solar flare or something

480
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,400
that is putting a lot of that
stuff out, a lot of charged

481
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640
particles, then our Earth gets
bombarded with it.

482
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,960
And then we see it in the lower
latitudes and what you normally

483
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,960
do.
Gotcha.

484
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,280
So it just happens all the time
and just people just every time

485
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,680
I see.
OK, gotcha.

486
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,160
So so it.
Sounds like Oh it'll.

487
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,840
Clear up and you won't, you
know, 13 years from now, people

488
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,600
will maybe see it again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

489
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,880
All right.
And we have a pretty unique

490
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,760
atmosphere.
Oxygen does is not stable.

491
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,240
Yeah.
You don't.

492
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480
You don't want 99% oxygen.
Is that what you're telling?

493
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Me.
Well, I'm saying if, if we could

494
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,120
see a a planet, we don't know of
any mechanism that would allow

495
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:51,080
oxygen to last a long time by
itself without plants constantly

496
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,640
producing it.
So if all of our plants, if all

497
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,080
the plants and animals went away
tomorrow, yeah, our oxygen

498
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,600
levels would slowly because it
would oxidize and it would

499
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,120
combine with other elements.
Question for you, Yeah.

500
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,760
Are there more plants or more
stars?

501
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,360
More plants or more stars I'm.
Going to look this up, I don't.

502
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,760
It was just off the top of your
head.

503
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,480
No, no, someone was talking
about this.

504
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,000
I don't know if they were a real
source or.

505
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,760
I would say.
This you.

506
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,080
I would think there'd be a lot
more stars, but maybe but but.

507
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200
Maybe not, because if you have
single cell you have you could

508
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,760
have trillions.
It depends on what they're

509
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,360
classifying this plant.
Yeah, because the, because the

510
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040
moral of the story was way more
trees on Earth than stars in the

511
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,360
Milky Way, which I was like, and
I'm looking at this now, it was

512
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,080
trees versus stars in the Milky
Way, which was crazy.

513
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000
But I guess, and I don't know
how good these studies, not to

514
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,040
derail it, but the what the
thing I'm looking at from NASA

515
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,200
estimates there's 400 billion
stars or less in our Galaxy, but

516
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,600
over 3 trillion trees on Earth.
But I guess maybe I don't know

517
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,400
what definition of a tree is,
you know, you know what I mean?

518
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,280
Like, I don't know if like
something small counts as a

519
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,720
tree, you know what I'm saying?
But anyway, yeah, I feel like

520
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,200
there's a lot of stars, but
there's way more trees.

521
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:14,240
I saw someone, it may have been
Neil deGrasse Tyson, Neil

522
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080
deGrasse Tyson, who was talking
about, you know, the uniqueness

523
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,800
of wood or grass.
He's like, this doesn't happen

524
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760
out in the universe.
Like, you know, we get all

525
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,400
caught up about diamonds, but
diamonds are actually fairly

526
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,680
common.
That's funny out in the universe

527
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,840
because it's just carbon that's
been compressed.

528
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,120
But you know, so you know,
galactically speaking, you know,

529
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,960
a 2 by 4 is more that's like
more valuable than a diamond.

530
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,880
There you go.
When the Yeah, in the economy,

531
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,680
we got the gold mine, so.
So so all the guys out there

532
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,920
don't get your, you know, your
soon to be fiance a diamond.

533
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Get her just get her a piece of
wood.

534
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,600
And say hey, in the scheme of
everything, you are so lucky.

535
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,320
I love.
It all right so we talked about

536
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,520
the Earth we got some other
things to talk about the moon

537
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320
kind of talked about about this
a little bit last time large

538
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600
size relative the Earth
stabilizes our axial tilt and by

539
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,360
extension stabilizes our
climate.

540
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,720
The solar eclipse alignment
enables advanced astronomical

541
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,800
study because of the just right
distance and size during SO.

542
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,800
To your point, I feel like we
have solar eclipses like all the

543
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,480
time.
It's just something that happens

544
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,400
like every couple of months.
Everyone's like, ah, there's a

545
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,880
so I'm like, I'll just catch the
next one.

546
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,800
There's so many.
Everyone's talking about them.

547
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,240
All the time, always just kicks
the next I'll.

548
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Just catch the next one.
I'll be fine.

549
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
It seems like they're happening.
It's and maybe just like social

550
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480
media something.
I feel like it's like all the

551
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,680
time.
It's like, hey, just drive to

552
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,280
Alabama.
There's one happening this month

553
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,440
but like it just seems like a
thing but.

554
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,160
Maybe you're confusing solar and
lunar eclipses?

555
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,520
Maybe I'm there's eclipses or a
dime a dozen.

556
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,440
I'm just saying they're having.
Total solar eclipses are not.

557
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,560
I'll just say that.
I'm just, I'll just put that out

558
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,840
there.
When's the next total solar the

559
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,800
eclipse for South Carolina you
can do you can look on that one

560
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,600
not worry about it.
I'll just.

561
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Get to the next one, I'm sure
people be talking about it.

562
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,640
I think you're just jealous you
didn't go to the go to the one

563
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,280
in Arkansas, so no.
I'm just kidding.

564
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,440
I'm just kidding.
I just feel like it's the same

565
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200
thing with the Northern Lights.
It's like, man, it's just like

566
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,520
all these things happen all the
time.

567
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
I feel like when I was a kid I
never heard about these things

568
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,320
and now it's like we're like in
the hot spot of there's an

569
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,520
eclipse happening.
Anyway, carry on.

570
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,800
All right, So the Moon also
provides tidal effects,

571
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,240
regulates ocean movement,
supports life cycles, especially

572
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,760
those coastal life cycles, those
tidal plane life cycles, and

573
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800
then it the Moon, we don't think
of the Moon as a meteor shield

574
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320
because we think of Jupiter and
won't get onto Jupiter.

575
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,000
I'll just talk about them
together.

576
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,600
Jupiter is massive.
So if you take away the Sun,

577
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:50,240
which is like 99.99% of the mass
of the solar system, if you take

578
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840
that out of the equation and
just look at the plants, the

579
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,240
planets and the dwarf planets
and the asteroids, Jupiter is

580
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,040
like 98% of the mass of that.
So just completely massive.

581
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,960
Some people say it's like a
failed star didn't didn't make

582
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
into a star.
But because of that it, you

583
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,680
know, pulls in those asteroids
or kicks them out.

584
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,120
It helps keep that area clean
for us because without that

585
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520
cosmic vacuum cleaner we would
get bombarded more often so.

586
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,880
Jupiter.
I'm looking it up 1300 times the

587
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840
volume of Earth.
Yeah, what about the mass

588
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,480
though?
The mass off.

589
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,320
Look at the mass, it is 11 times
the diameter of Earth.

590
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Let's see if I can find the mass
of this bad boy.

591
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Stay tuned.
While you're doing that, the

592
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520
other large mass in our solar
system, the Sun is a yellow main

593
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,080
sequence stars.
Now it there are a lot of these

594
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,280
out there, but ours is
particularly heavy in metallic

595
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,400
content.
And from what I read, it is in

596
00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:01,640
the top five to 10% of stars for
the ratio of heavy elements that

597
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,280
it has because most stars are
just pure hydrogen.

598
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,240
So that heavy metallic
concentration allows for the

599
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,280
formation of rocky planets like
we have, allows for those

600
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,760
planets to have metals in their
core and in their crust.

601
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,080
We have the, you know, the
nickel iron core in the middle

602
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,920
of our Earth is what we believe
it is.

603
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,680
And the rotation of that creates
our magnetic field, which we are

604
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,640
talked about protecting us from,
you know, cosmic radiation.

605
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,160
I'm sure you were ever our
listeners who are dying for the

606
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,720
mass of Jupiter.
Earth's mass is 5.9 * 10 to the

607
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,840
24 kilograms.
Jupiter's 1.89 * 10 to the 27.

608
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Wow, so so 1000 more than 1000
times more massive than the

609
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Earth.
So Saturn, the reason that I

610
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800
asked about volume, Saturn
actually has a very large

611
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,200
volume, but a very low density.
Famously, it's less dense than

612
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,120
water.
So it they always like if we had

613
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080
a galactic ocean, it would float
in the water.

614
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,920
That's how how not dense it is.
So, all right, kind of talked

615
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,520
about that whole section there
about the metallic con, our

616
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,120
galactic address where we are in
the Milky Way.

617
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880
We are between two spiral arms.
We're not really in the middle

618
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,720
of a spiral arm.
We're between 2:00.

619
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,800
So if you look out on a a dark
night and you see that light

620
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,600
band strip across, that is one
of the bands of the Milky Way

621
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,200
that we can see.
And that means we don't, we're

622
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,160
not running into other stars.
We don't have a lot of

623
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
neighbors.
We're pretty safe 'cause you

624
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520
really think about it.
I was saying about this one

625
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
time, I wouldn't want to be an
astronaut.

626
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,600
You're in a spaceship and your
existence is dependent on that

627
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,520
spaceship's ability to not run
into radiation, provide food for

628
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,400
you.
You know, you're, you're just

629
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,240
out there in space alone.
And then it dawned on me.

630
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Earth is just a gigantic
spaceship.

631
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,920
We're just floating through
space and it's protecting us,

632
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000
you know, by design and, and it
was what I by.

633
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Man, that is a good point.
Yeah, that's kinda man.

634
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,000
We have a pretty long ways from
the galactic center and there's

635
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,720
a dust cloud between US and the
galactic centers 'cause we

636
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920
can't.
We don't see clearly, especially

637
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,240
with visible light, the galactic
center.

638
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,760
If that dust cloud was not
there, I'm told we would be able

639
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,600
to read a newspaper at night if
oh 'cause it would be that

640
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,360
bright.
Step right.

641
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160
Wow.
If we even have survived because

642
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,160
that does cloud.
Help we gotta get better

643
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
analogies just like the record
player, like newspaper.

644
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,200
And I'm gonna just derail us
like why are we telling kids

645
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,480
they should be astronauts when
they grow up?

646
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,480
The likelihood is way less than
like an NBA player like we that

647
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
just like, come on, you know,
maybe we should be like anyway,

648
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,040
yeah, there's I look like
there's 46 astronauts right now

649
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,480
in NASA.
But there are.

650
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Yeah, But you there probably
there's this key characteristic

651
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,240
about NBA players that not
everyone has, but I'm is there a

652
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920
key characteristic about that's
a good.

653
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Point I don't know, I don't know
if you can just like work hard

654
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,640
and be an astronaut or there
needs to be like some sort of

655
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760
like, you know, do they test
well, just like or like, hey, I

656
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
just work.
Hard enough to be an NBA player.

657
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400
That's true.
If you're 5 foot 5, it's just

658
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,040
not in the cards for you most
likely.

659
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,520
So that, that's a good point.
Bugsy, Bugsy Bogues.

660
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Yeah, famously is like 5-3 or
something.

661
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
So I guess technically it can
happen.

662
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Exception to the rule.
I'm just saying 46 astronauts,

663
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080
everyone's telling their kid
he'll be an astronaut.

664
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,960
Just saying, maybe you should
say like, you know, be in, I

665
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800
don't know, middle management
something, something attainable

666
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
anyway.
Yeah.

667
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,600
And then there's actually in our
local group position.

668
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,639
So where we are in like where
our Galaxy is in the, you know,

669
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,840
relation to to all the other
galaxies, we're kind of on the

670
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,320
edge there.
Not so far out that we're like

671
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
by ourself and we don't have
some of the protections, but not

672
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,840
so close that we're just in the
the mix of things.

673
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,320
Because that's what everyone
just thinks.

674
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,480
I mean, it's like, you know,
everyone's always talking about

675
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,560
asteroids and, you know, we're
going to see stuff and dinosaurs

676
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,360
and all this stuff, you know,
got extinct.

677
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,199
So yeah, it's good.
We're on a good run.

678
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,000
All right.
So I listed a bunch of these.

679
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Are these, you know, and I asked
a question, are these defendable

680
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,320
and there are measurements of
these.

681
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,239
I haven't, you know, tried to
give you all the math.

682
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,080
I'm just kind of talking to
those, but you could put these

683
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,679
into a, you know, mathematical
equation and try to figure out,

684
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,320
you know, the rare.
All of these things together.

685
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,239
Too, all of these things
together and it is very rare,

686
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
you know.
So this we talked last time

687
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:04,880
about Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay
Richards and Hugh Ross and their

688
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,720
works on showing how improbable
our planet is.

689
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,480
And even with all the galaxies,
all the stars that we have in

690
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240
there, all the star, all the
planets that those stars have,

691
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,720
you know, the chances of another
life permitting planet being out

692
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,160
there are very, very, very,
very, very, very low.

693
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,920
Man, so if it is so low, what do
people say?

694
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000
You know, like what's the,
what's the pushback, if you

695
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,680
will?
Yeah.

696
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,040
So some people would put, you
know, forth this anthropic

697
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,400
principle.
And we talked about a little bit

698
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,680
of this last episode and then I
might say, of course, it looks

699
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,080
fine-tuned for life because if
it wasn't fine-tuned for life,

700
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,880
we wouldn't have life and we
wouldn't be able to be here to,

701
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,840
you know, observe it.
And John Leslie famously put

702
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,400
forward this firing squad
example.

703
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,200
William Lane Craig repeats it
often.

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,040
You know, imagine that you're a
convicted felon and and you and

705
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,000
you weren't the president
because you're about to get

706
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,640
executed and you have 12 sharp
shooters and they say ready,

707
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,200
aim, fire.
You hear the blast and you're

708
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,000
still there.
And, and it would be like you

709
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,160
going, why am I still hearing
someone saying, of course you're

710
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,240
still here because you wouldn't
be able to ask why unless you

711
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,880
were still here.
And like, no, no, no, no, of

712
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,360
course I'm still here because
that's why I can ask the

713
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,720
question.
But there needs to be a good

714
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,080
explanation for how all twelve
of these people missed.

715
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Like, that doesn't just happen
by chance, and it's not

716
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,840
necessary.
So something by design happened.

717
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,600
And that's just 12 people
missing.

718
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Far less.
Yeah.

719
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,280
Yeah.
Far less, you know, random than

720
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,760
than what I'm trying.
You know what I'm?

721
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,480
Trying to say I know what you're
trying to say.

722
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,720
I gotcha.
All right, some people put

723
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,880
forward evolution for our
biological design.

724
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,520
Problem with that is natural
selection removes traits.

725
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,480
It's hard to.
Like usually if some someone's

726
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,560
like hey, I got 3 arms, that's
like not good.

727
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,800
Like that's like, oh, something
went wrong.

728
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,880
Yeah, you know what I mean?
It's like, oh, we just gained

729
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,080
something new.
This is awesome.

730
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:20,800
Right.
Yeah.

731
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,760
So you have, first of all,
natural selection works on

732
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,480
information that's there.
So the life has to be there to

733
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,520
begin with it.
There is, yeah.

734
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,440
So you have to have something
that's there.

735
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,240
And then if you have like a
population, natural selection

736
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:40,280
basically makes that population
shift its characteristics, but

737
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,680
that population is shifting its
characteristics within what is

738
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,760
already coded for in that
genome.

739
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,320
So if you talk about, you know,
the birds on Galapagos Island

740
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,320
and they had these shifts and
their beak length and, and

741
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,680
strength based on the flowers
that were there, like all of

742
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,920
those are coated within their,
their genes.

743
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,320
And what we've seen is that's
largely on the rain cycles

744
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,280
because the rain cycles
determine, you know, how Hardy

745
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
the plants are.
And so if you just go back, you

746
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,240
see that those populations shift
back.

747
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,360
And yeah, back and forth.
Yeah and and you know this cause

748
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,440
of all the biology you took, but
the like the poster child for

749
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,720
the over adapted population are
the cheetahs.

750
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,240
Cheetahs.
They don't have a lot of genetic

751
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,960
diversity and so something has
happened in the cheetahs life

752
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,880
that has removed like maybe a
disease went through and you had

753
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,640
a small, you know, maybe 10,000
cheetahs survive that disease

754
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
and all of them got selected
because they were able to

755
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,200
survive.
But that survival, the fittest

756
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,520
took away all that variation
that was in their genome.

757
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,280
And so you have these cheetahs
that are actually over adapted

758
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
now and they don't have the
genetic diversity because they

759
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,480
can't write.
So all I'm saying is survival of

760
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,320
the fittest at at most it can
push your population in

761
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000
different directions.
Like you know, the peppered

762
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,560
moth, it can push more of the
individuals to be in dark or

763
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,360
more of the individuals to be in
white.

764
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,320
But if it pushes too far, it
doesn't create something new, IT

765
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920
just strips away variation out
of the population.

766
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Yeah, that that's really good
'cause I feel like there's

767
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,960
always some like one of those
examples animals people point

768
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,240
to.
And it's not that it's not that

769
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,120
like crazy or it's especially
those, these ones that happen so

770
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,040
fast, like those that it's like,
oh, if it happens that fast, it

771
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,680
can go very fast back.
That's that's good 'cause no

772
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,720
one, I hate that they like
convolute this stuff 'cause no

773
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,160
one's saying that that's not
true.

774
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,120
You know what I mean?
Like everyone's like micro

775
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,000
evolution.
Great.

776
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Like, yeah, you go to Bob Jones.
They're like, we love micro

777
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,160
evolution, this is good.
And you're like, well, you know,

778
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,200
it's like.
But yeah, so.

779
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Micro evolution AKA adaptation.
Exactly, Yeah.

780
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Another push back is the
multiverse.

781
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,520
We've alluded to this before.
Especially now I feel like it's

782
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
very, it's like more popular,
right?

783
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Thanks a lot, Marvel.
It's not testable, it's not

784
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600
fossifiable.
There's no.

785
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,000
That's the problem, you just
throw it out.

786
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,520
There, Yeah, the multiverse,
yeah.

787
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,000
Well the problem is it just
kicks the can back because it in

788
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,680
order for the multiverse to
explain this, it has to be

789
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,520
producing.
Some level, yeah, Yeah.

790
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Yeah, all these different types
of universes and there has to be

791
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,000
some way that it can produce
basically an infinite number in

792
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,760
order to overcome the odds.
And those infinite numbers need

793
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,200
to have all the different
variations in there.

794
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,160
See, this is the problem though,
'cause this is like what people

795
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,200
like Neil deGrasse Tyson like,
like people that are like,

796
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,000
popular credentialed or like,
well, if there was enough, you

797
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
know, this many, at some point
it's gonna happen, Yeah.

798
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,480
In fact, in order for the
multiverse to explain away what

799
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,320
we're talking about here, it
actually over explains it.

800
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,920
Because if the multiverse is
true and it's producing an

801
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,560
infinite number of universes
that have all the different

802
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,680
parameters there, then we have
had this conversation an

803
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,440
infinite number of times on
those different universes.

804
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like that, doesn't this

805
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,040
doesn't make sense.
All right.

806
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,080
And then the last one would be
like God of the gaps.

807
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,840
Oh, you don't understand how
this happens.

808
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,720
So you're just saying there's a
gap in our knowledge.

809
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:29,400
You're just shoving God in there
to explain to our account for

810
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,680
that gap.
Nowhere have we said we don't

811
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,840
understand what we're talking
about.

812
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,800
We're saying we do understand
what we're talking about.

813
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,960
We do understand software code.
We do understand DNA.

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,560
We do understand, you know, all
these different parameters.

815
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,520
And we're saying that it points
to some type of design.

816
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,520
These things don't happen by
chance.

817
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,560
There's nothing that's, you
know, physically or

818
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,640
metaphysically necessary about
these things.

819
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,800
It could have been different.
And so it it's it points to

820
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,080
there being a designer science
can deal without agent activity.

821
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,840
So all your forensic sciences,
you know, it would be weird if

822
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,440
you came into a room and someone
was dead and you're like, I

823
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040
think someone did this.
You're like, no, that's not

824
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,680
science.
There must be a natural

825
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,160
explanation for this guy to have
died.

826
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
You're like, well, he's got a
knife in his heart.

827
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,680
That's not a natural
explanation.

828
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Well, even though it looks like
natural explanation, you're

829
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,600
using murder of the gaps to
explain this scene.

830
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,680
They're like, no, that's we, we
understand how these causes

831
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,880
happen.
You know, it's OK for us to, to

832
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,800
point to an agent to, to do
these, even if that agent is,

833
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,120
you know, incorporeal God or.
You.

834
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Know being like that we would
say God is.

835
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,200
No, I like it because it's like
everywhere.

836
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,080
It's not like you're like, hey,
let's look at this one area.

837
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,800
It's like, hey, here's 25 areas
or more, you know?

838
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,640
In fact, I want to flip the
script when people say science

839
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,400
will eventually figure this out
that science of the gaps because

840
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,360
you're saying science doesn't
know how this.

841
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,160
Happens.
I'm just shoving this the word

842
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,800
science in my gap of knowledge
and that explains it.

843
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,840
Boom.
All right.

844
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
So hopefully that was
interesting.

845
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,320
I tried to take some of the math
out of it.

846
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,720
So just talking about those
parameters, how well designed

847
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,440
solar system, Earth life is and
hopefully you can see it.

848
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,240
So next episodes we're going to
peer into a little bit more

849
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,280
mathy stuff where we're going to
talk about the the fine tuning

850
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,800
argument, which is one of the
types of arguments in the T

851
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,680
logical family of arguments.
And it'll actually have the

852
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,760
premise 1 premise 2 conclusion.
And we'll talk about those and

853
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,360
and we'll we'll say why it's so
popular in apologetics today.

854
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,640
I love it, can't wait.
That's our take.

855
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,240
Thanks for listening to Take 2.
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856
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,760
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857
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,400
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