Sept. 9, 2024
What the Law Could Not Do | Matthew 5
Episode 65
Michael has the opportunity to fill in pulpit again while Joel spends time with family on his birthday. Zach and Michael talk about how Jesus is addresses abuse and/or misuse of the OT Law in His sermon on the mount. We also discuss bad referee calls in favor of the Chiefs!
Original sermon here: https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermons/91242011293909
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It's that time of year again,
Michael.
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Oh, not fall.
We're coming into fall.
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We're coming.
Into fall, rounding out
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summertime sports are starting
out.
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My, my, what?
I mean to say, it's time for
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sports.
Yeah.
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My kids, they start soccer on
Monday.
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Exciting.
Who's coaching them?
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I'm coaching them.
Oh.
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Did you?
You didn't need a necessary
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coach.
I feel like you're I should, I
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should have asked you, but I
feel like you were busy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enough.
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And this is K through 2nd grade.
It's good.
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Next year, we will tag team
coaching.
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If is, is Phoebe in kindergarten
next year?
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Phoebe's in kindergarten next
year.
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That'll be, that'll be.
I was like, Man, Jackson,
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Jordan, Phoebe Everly on the
same team.
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Yeah, that'd.
Be good.
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That's that's pretty, pretty
cool.
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And then on top of that, you
know, had a nice, you know, I
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feel like done today.
Played some frisbee, got 6 miles
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in, jumped into cold plunge.
So I'm, I guess timing, maybe,
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maybe, maybe you've seen this,
maybe not.
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But keep the lookout for that
bonus episode to drop down.
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And and and NFL starting back
up.
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We had the Chiefs just laying
the smack.
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Down football's where this is
going.
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This is where this is going
because it just when you watch
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beautiful.
Football.
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Man, Mahomes just can't stop the
Chiefs, am I right?
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You can't when they have the
refs on their side.
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And I know people like, show me
the plate.
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Like I posted something on
social media complaining about
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this and people come in, they're
like, well, here's this place
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where this touchdown wasn't
awarded to the Steelers.
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Jonathan Hyde, I'll call you out
right now.
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I think it was you that no.
Steelers don't get calls, I'll
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tell you that.
And I'm like, there's a logical
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explanation.
You in order to score a
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touchdown, you have to have a
reception.
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In order to have a reception,
you have to survive contact with
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the ground or make a football
move.
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We can debate whether that's a
good rule or a bad rule that but
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the rule was applied accurately
in that case, so no touchdown
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was awarded.
But Oh my goodness, Chris
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Collinsworth, you can get me
started.
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Like he's like defending.
He's defending Kelsey, who has
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his arm around something.
He's like, well, you know,
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that's hard for a receiver like
that to block these defensive
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ends, blah, blah, blah.
And like, like, make it being an
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apologist for a clear violation
of the rules.
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Then later on in the game, This
is why I turn it off like
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Ravens, like he's blocking,
blocking like his fingers like
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for a split second.
Flag on the play.
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Clothes on but the runner's
already passed and it is in the
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NFL rules like what's the users
word I can't think of but it's
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like incidental.
Incidental holding isn't called,
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so if it doesn't affect the
play, that sounds.
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Like it affected the play
greatly.
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Yeah, yeah.
No, no.
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Nothing's more beautiful than a
Pats fan complaining about the
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refs not coming to their
defense.
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This is like, I am just loving
it.
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This is what I wanted to say
that I'm not a choose fan.
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I'm Steelers fan.
But man I do.
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I do like Mahomes Tuck.
You list it out.
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Tuck rule.
Oh, Tuck rule.
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Oh my goodness.
It followed the rule.
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It was there before Brady was
ever in the league.
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So all of these things that I
hear over and over again, check
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out the instances they don't
hold.
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Up and if you're a Pats fan, you
cannot ever complain about the
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refs.
I will say this, I will say
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this.
Maybe in the course of watching,
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I saw one or two over like a
couple years where Brady got a
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roughing in the past or I
thought that may be a little
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bit, maybe a little ticky tacky.
Oh, but I'll, I'll tell you this
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about the game on Thursday.
I'll admit that.
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Here's here's a thought.
You know, Lamar could have just
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thrown it to the wide open guy
in the end zone a couple times.
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Yeah, two times in a row.
I stopped watching at that end
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point and and I'm not a Ravens
fan.
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I just you're a Chiefs hater.
You're a.
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Chiefs hater.
That's true.
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That's true.
I probably hate the Chiefs more
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than the Steelers or The Jets at
this point, which is most past
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fans shouldn't.
I will say this one last thing.
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I've been in a game where my
defensive lineman were getting
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held and it wasn't called.
I have coached that and it
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affects how you have to prepare
an attack as a defense because
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now if if my defense is getting
in, they're getting held and
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that pressure doesn't get
counted against the quarterback
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and the quarterback's free to
throw, you have to make
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adjustments that then make the
run more advantageous.
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And so now it it destroys a
defense when holding isn't
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called and it it just has
material secondary tertiary
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effects.
I love how mad you're getting.
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This is great.
This is great way to start the
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podcast and and this has a lot
to do with the service survey on
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the mountain well.
If you abuse the rules of the
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NFL, then and misuse them, then
it leads to bad things.
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If you misuse and abuse the Old
Testament law, that's right.
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Amen.
It leads to bad things.
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There you go.
I love it.
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Let's take it to the next level
from the hearts of the Low
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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where
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we take theology to the next
level.
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Another another sermon that I
wasn't there for, but I'll be
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honest, I heard the guy wasn't
that good anyway.
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Yeah, it was, it was.
It was skippable.
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No, we had a guest, a guest
speaker.
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Really not a guest speaker.
You've been preaching like every
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other month, so really you're in
the rotation, you know?
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Someone said something and I was
like, well, we as elders told
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Joel, take a few more Sundays
off across the year.
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We want him to last 10 more
years, so if that means instead
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of being gone out of the pulpit
2 * a year, you're gone 456
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times a year, that's fine.
Word management.
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It's like the NBA.
You gotta like rest.
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Lebron's gotta take the rest.
So he's ready for the playoffs,
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you know?
So.
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Well, great.
I listened to the sermon after
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the fact.
It was really great.
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Titled What the Law Could Not Do
from this prominent passage,
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Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5
through 7, What I like about
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what you've been doing, you've
been connecting it to where
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we're at.
Every time you preach, you're
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connecting it to Romans to help,
you know, give us a maybe better
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perspective.
Yeah, that's what I was trying
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to do.
I was thinking about what do I,
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what do we preach on?
And I was thinking, you know,
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it's difficult for me.
We're an expository preaching
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church, so we want to work
through a passage.
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And if you're like working
through a book and you've given
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the intro and you kind of the
passage will tell you what to
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preach.
But when you're just coming in
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and preaching a sermon kind of
out of the blue, you don't want
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to just be like, all right, And
you kind of have to connect it.
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So that's what I was trying to
do.
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I'm trying to connect it to what
we've been learning.
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I thought, you know, what about
the Beatitudes?
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Because we just started talking
about what the law couldn't do.
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And we know from Israel's past
that they were flirting with
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idolatry and really in this
license type of lawlessness
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phase.
And then after they return, and
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I think maybe we're gonna talk
about Ezra and Nehemiah, it was
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rubbable at some point in time.
I've seen some notes on those.
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That's.
Right, might, might be a couple
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months from now.
They got a lot to cover, but we
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will at some point.
But, you know, when they came
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back, there was this very, you
know, we don't want to be taken
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into captivity again.
And so they started taking this
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law and really they started
applying it.
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And what they started doing were
these fence laws.
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And so we talked about, I don't
want to monopolize the
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conversation, but we, you know,
we've talked about the mission
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of the Talmud before and we were
kind of both like we're not
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clear.
I, I did my homework since then.
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So the Mishnah, basically, if
you took all the laws out of the
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Old Testament and tried to
systematize those laws, that's
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the Mishnah.
And then the Gamera is the
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commentary on on those laws.
It's the rabbinical commentary
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and the kind of the adding to
like here's how you alley this.
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And so the what they did was
they put what we've called fence
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laws.
So imagine there's an area that
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you can't cross and in order to
like, man, we want to make this
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even more secure.
You put a perimeter around that
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so that if you don't cross the
perimeter, then you haven't
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crossed this area.
Those two together, the Michigan
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and the Gamera form the Talmud.
So it's kind of the Talmud is
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the the the combination of those
two.
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No, that that's good.
You gave some good examples just
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for context, like how are we to
think of some of these?
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I know in the past, you know,
Pastor Joel's done some, he had
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one like on, I can't remember
exactly what it was with like
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the toilet and how it flushes.
You remember this or how you
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wash hands or, I don't know,
stuff like.
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This, it was about how you wash
hands and how the water has to
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flow certain ways.
And it was this rabbi talking
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about how to be ceremonially
clean and how he's like dipping
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water and stuff.
And the the sad thing in all
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these that we're gonna name is
that they believe that is
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garnering favor with God when
they follow those very, I would
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say man made rules.
Yeah, and and you mentioned some
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of these two when when I was in
Israel, we stayed at this.
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It was pretty nice Dead Sea like
hotel.
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And, you know, they had the
Sabbath elevator, Shabbat
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elevators that we just get on
and get everything and the light
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truck already on in certain
places because you can't like
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turn stuff on because we were,
we happened to be there for a
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Shabbat.
And so kind of got to see some
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of those laws into effect.
And so you got you get on the
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slow elevator or the fast
elevator, you know, was one good
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example.
Yeah, because you couldn't start
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a fire, which is in the Mosaic
law, that is.
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There's a scripture that talks
about that.
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But rabbis, well, in one we
could talk about, you know, are
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we still under the law?
Who?
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You know, that's a whole
separate discussion.
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But rabbis have since equated
the use of electricity with
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fire.
You can kind of see how they
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would.
Make that connection.
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And so like you said, you can't
push a switch, a button or flip
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a switch.
But if you just, if it's just
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doing this thing on its own,
you're not actively engaging it.
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So yeah.
And you made those points with
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like air conditioning,
compressed air, if it's like,
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you know, going you're, you're
good, but you can't initiate
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some of that stuff.
Right.
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Yeah, they can press air so
that, you know, they have some
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sound powered speakers using
compressed air, some air
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conditioning.
There's these Eruvs, which are
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these streams that they run
like.
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So you can get maps of these
large city centers like LA,
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Manhattan, and they tie.
And normally it's like a fishing
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line.
It's very high.
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You can't hardly see it.
But there'll be some signage
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like this is the end of the
roof.
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get around this fence law that
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says you can't carry stuff on
the Sabbath because that would
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be considered work.
That's not in the Old Testament
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law, but you know, the rabbis
has said you can't carry
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something outside of your
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What's my domicile?
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square mile, you know, a roof
around where I live, then I can
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claim that as my domicile and I
can move freely in there.
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So there we would call that
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In the end of the day, legalism
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them to the level of God's laws.
And it really has two effects.
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One, it puts people in bondage.
So you hear Jesus talking to the
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Jews of his day, you know,
saying come to me or weary
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because of all the bondage that
they were in, because all these
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meticulous rules that were man
made.
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But two, it kind of gives you an
out to not follow God's rules.
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Right, 'cause you got all these
other things that occupy your
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mind and we'll, we'll talk about
this in your sermon, Sermon on
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the Mount.
Jesus basically said, hey,
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you're off the hook.
You don't have to do anything.
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I'm, I'm, I don't care about the
law, right?
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Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The law's not no, that's not
what he says at all.
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That's.
The amazing thing when you get
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to the essence of it, it's not
like you're just telling people,
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hey, laws don't matter.
So I'm excited to get into it.
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And I like what I appreciate
about your sermon.
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You gave a good overview where I
think a lot of times people zone
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in on maybe like one or two
things.
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And you kind of gave us the
whole structure so you we can
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read it, know what's going on,
know maybe the logical
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progression or what Jesus is
trying to hit, which was, which
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was nice.
Yeah, so if you've read the
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Beatitudes or the Sermon on the
Mount starts out with the
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Beatitudes, and really that
heart attitude is what the law
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should have produced in them.
So I'm sure if you're listening
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to this podcast, you're familiar
with the Beatitudes, but you
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know, things like being poor in
spirit, being hungering and
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thirsting for righteousness.
If you were following the Old
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Testament law and you were
giving those sacrifices day in,
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day out, and you were honest
with yourself, oh man, I sinned
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again.
I got to do another sacrifice.
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This should lead you to this
brokenness that Jesus talks
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about in the Beatitudes.
Yeah, look that that's like
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that's kind of the starting
point if that if that frames the
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the conversation, how you think
about your sin that will drive
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you to to the right place.
You kind of worked worked
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through those and then has this
idea of, you know, suffering
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that that's that's that's a big
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Yeah, yeah.
So there's the couple verses
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that kind of toward the end of
the Beatitudes where Jesus says,
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you know, blessed are you and
you are persecuted for my name's
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sake or for righteousness sake.
A couple verses there that he
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gives.
You can read that.
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But again, Paul talks about the
law being a tutor, and it should
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lead you to this place where,
like, you know what?
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I I don't deserve anything.
What I deserve is hell.
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So I'm willing to suffer on
behalf of God.
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I'm willing because my what are
you having rights?
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And on top of that, you're just
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naturally gonna have a love for
others because same thing.
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What?
Who am I, right?
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I'm gonna love others.
I'm gonna be thinking
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missionally talking about being
salt and light and all these
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things.
It all kind of flows out from
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that beginning part.
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And I tried to make the point
that we have what's been called
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the Great Commission, some
people call it the Everyday
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Commission in the new test for
New Testament believers.
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There's not really something
like that on par for the Old
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Testament believers.
But we see hints of that
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missional mindset, the Abrahamic
covenant, where it says you're
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going to be a blessing to all
nations.
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We see Jonah being called to go
to Nineveh.
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There are places, you know,
where Jesus referenced the
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Gentile widow that takes care of
Elijah and and one other thing
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that he oh the Naaman, the guy
who gets baptized 7 times in his
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leprosies cleanse.
He's like, and then the Jews try
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to kill him 'cause he's showing
that this gospel is not just for
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the Jews, it's really for the
Gentiles.
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But the Jews did not have that
mission mindedness at all.
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Yeah.
That's pretty amazing that those
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are his examples and that just
brought on top.
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He says, hey, first I'm the
Messiah and then here's some
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here's some examples and man
riling people up so that the law
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should have produced all of this
in in the Jews and it it did
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not.
So what do we do with the law?
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Do we just throw it out?
Yeah, well, in some sense for,
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and this is where we gotta like
you might hear people say the
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Sermon on the Mount is for Old
Testament Jews only, period, not
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for the church today.
And then you hear people that
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kind of miss the fact that Jesus
is addressing abuses of laws and
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they just interpret it through a
New Testament church lens.
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And I think both of those
extremes are bad takes.
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So really you should recognize
Jesus is correcting abuses of
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the law.
But there's good things in there
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for us.
In Jesus's time they were still
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under the Old Testament law and
he was saying not one of these
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jots or titles.
If you are the reading from the
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KGV will pass the.
Ball.
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Until everything is fulfilled.
And so you could say, well,
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maybe when Jesus died on the
cross, he fulfilled the Old
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Testament law and brought the
Mosaic law to an end because
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he's ushering in that new
covenant.
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But in the same token, we see
everything that Jesus mentions
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here.
These are moral laws that are
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repeated in the New Testament
for the believer.
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Yeah, he's he's and he goes
through and takes one and says,
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hey, actually I'm, I'm raising,
raising the standard.
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These are not only good, but if
you get to the heart of the law,
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if you get to what's really
behind it all, I'm taking it a
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step further.
And I think on one hand, a lot
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of people understand that, but I
think a lot of people don't
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understand that.
And they're like, Jesus came, we
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could do whatever we want, you
know, and it's like, no, if when
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you read and it's great that he
has different examples, not just
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one, he does it in several
cases.
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I think he did a good job of
using, you know, one of these or
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a couple of these and saying
same patterns kind of done
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throughout.
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So the one that you know, he
takes up murder takes up lust.
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I believe he takes up being
dishonest.
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You know, let your yays be a
your Navy.
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Nay, but in the murder 1
specifically, he's going to
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quote the law.
He's going to say, you've heard
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that it's been said you
shouldn't murder.
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And if you do murder, you're
going to be guilty of the court.
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And then he takes up, yeah, he's
gonna say, but I say to you.
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And all of these things start
getting at the heart.
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If you're angry at your brother
without a just 'cause if you say
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to your brother you are good for
nothing.
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If you say to your brother a
fool or we might say stupid.
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the degree of those sins is
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lessening.
So it goes from murder angry
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without just cause.
Calling your friend good for
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nothing, calling him you, you
stupid.
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But the consequences go up.
So it goes from being guilty of
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the court, guilty of the Supreme
Court, guilty of Hellfire.
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Then you look at that, you're
like, yeah, does that make like,
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I don't understand, but there is
a point you pointed out really
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well.
Yeah, yeah, so.
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And in contrast to the defense
laws, we're usually thinking on
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a physical level, like don't go
this far out, you know, don't do
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the, don't eat these things.
Wash your hands.
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Really, Jesus saying you should
be fencing off your heart.
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So if you don't want to murder,
don't be angry.
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And if you don't want to be
angry, don't be having thoughts
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about your brother like he's
good for nothing.
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And if you don't want to be
having thoughts like that, then
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don't be thinking your brother's
stupid, like you have to guard
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your heart.
And that little sin, it's a sin,
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and it garners you the
punishment of eternal home.
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Yeah, if you can try to get your
SIN in check on that level.
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I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure bad
stuff happens all the time, but
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I'm sure most people when they
do murder someone, where does it
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start?
And it's like we all can relate
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to thinking someone is dumb or
said something dumb and and
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acting out like that's so
practical that we need to guard
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that there because Jesus is
making a big deal about this.
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That's great.
And one more thought on that,
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like, you know, Tim, our
resident counselor, he talks
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about folks who struggle in
different areas and the triggers
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that they allow them to, you
know, this happened.
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This is how I responded.
And maybe if it's anger or I
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allow my mind to do this, I
looked at this and then I went
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here and went here.
If it's lust or, you know,
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gossip, you know, all of these,
you know, kind of the patterns
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that lead up to it.
And he'll talk about, you know,
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radical amputation.
Like, you got to get rid of
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those things that are leading up
to.
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Yeah, that's practical.
Look at your life, look at my
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life and catch those now it's a
lot easier to amputate a toe
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than a leg or whatever, you
know, don't let it take over
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everything.
And then from here, you correct
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me if I'm wrong.
You preach the sermon.
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You you kind of gave us kind of
like a you kept giving us this
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big picture of different things
Jesus was talking about, like
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giving us the site how to read
the Sermon on the Mount.
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Yeah.
So if you look at the beginning,
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he's really saying we talked
about this in the Beatitudes,
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you know, what the law should
have done.
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And then he's going to start
addressing different abuses.
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So towards the end of Chapter 5,
he's really picking up, I think,
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these abuses of the law.
And if you look at the what's
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the end of commonly the
Beatitudes or if you break out,
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you know, the salt and light
portion?
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He says unless your
righteousness exceed that of the
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scribes and Pharisees, you shall
know wise enter into the Kingdom
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of heaven.
That's the the KJV.
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That's what I had memorized when
I was a kid.
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Yeah, sorry.
And so.
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And that would have been a wow.
Yeah.
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For the big deal.
Scribes and Pharisees.
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I've got to be better than them.
These are the people who tie the
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a tenth of their mint and their
dill and their cumin.
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How?
How am I going to do better than
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that?
And then at the end of all of
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these corrections to the law,
it's like a bookcase.
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Maybe it's a a chiasm.
I don't know.
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But he ends by saying, therefore
be be therefore perfect, even as
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your Father in heaven is
perfect.
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That's the standard.
If you want to justify yourself,
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you've got to be perfect.
That's how chapter 5 ends.
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Chapter 6 starts looking at not
necessarily abuses of the law in
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particular, but abuses of
practices in the law, praying,
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tithing, fasting, worrying about
material things.
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Like it had been, you know, kind
of like our name and claimant
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preachers today.
Wealth was looked at as a sign
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of righteousness and and there
was all this worry about things.
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So he's going to end chapter 6
with this, you know, kind of a,
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a rebuke on people who are
caught up in, in material
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things.
And then Chapter 7 ends with all
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these woes and, and basically
saying you can do these things,
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but your fruit has to match your
heart.
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And if you've got bad fruit,
then you don't really know me.
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And then and we get some of
those, you know, I'll cast you
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out and, and you'll, they'll
say, but we did this, we did
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this.
I never knew you.
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So that's really the Sermon on
the Mount.
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And it's a big picture of how
the the law was abused.
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Now that that that's really
great to frame it in that way
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and Jesus just hits things.
Oh, I like that.
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There's so many examples, so
many little vignettes that
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there's a lot.
There's a lot in here.
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I know most are very familiar
with it, but it's just so great
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to great to revisit over and
over.
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So what else would you want to
hit on?
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Well, I will say I do want to
caveat one thing.
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It might be that Jesus did not
say all these things at one time
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at one setting.
Maybe He did, maybe He didn't.
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The reason why we would have
some questions about that is,
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one, we know the tendency of
Jews to group things
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thematically, and that was how
they preferred it.
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And so Matthew being a Jew,
being a follower, disciple of of
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Christ, could have taken these
things and grouped it into a
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single coherent thing like we do
when we do systematic theology,
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like we grab verses from all
these places behind, put them
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together.
What's the overall story?
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I'm not saying he did or didn't.
It's just a possibility that he
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didn't and the reason we might
think that he didn't was because
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Luke, who's writing to a
different audience with a
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different preference and how we
take kind of more what we would
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think of in our Western American
culture.
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We think of a biography.
We want it, you know,
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chronological in order.
Read the opening of Luke.
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He's like I know other said,
other gospels have been out
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there, but I'm putting together
A1 that's orderly.
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And so you see these sayings,
all these sayings are there, but
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they're kind of spread out in,
in Luke.
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So I, I don't want anyone to get
hung up on that.
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The harmony of the gospel.
Maybe you did, maybe it didn't.
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And really that theme
thematically versus
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chronological viewpoint that
solves a lot of your problems.
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I was going through Ezra and
Nehemiah and boy, chronology is
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all over the place.
Ezra chapter 4 is like at the
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end of the it's, it gets
confusing with the kings.
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They're dropping kings
everywhere.
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And it's because they're trying
to group things thematically.
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And that's a big, I think that's
a really good, good take away
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when you try to, you know, and
that that might be one of the
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reasons it's outlined so nicely.
You know, how it, the book ends
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and everything.
It might be you know who.
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We can't say for sure what else
you want to hit about your
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sermon here.
Well, I'll just say, you know
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the end, and we kind of already
hit this again, You know, if you
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bookcase those beginning and
ends of where he's really diving
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into the law, righteousness has
succeeded that of the scribes
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and Pharisees.
And then at the end, he says,
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your righteousness basically has
to be on par with the Father.
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You got to be perfect.
If you turn over to Matthew 11
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and do you have it there?
Yeah.
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Why don't you read that verse
for us?
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Great, Matthew 11 if I look down
at verse 28, Jesus says come to
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me all who labor and are heavy
laden, and I will give you rest.
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Take my yoke upon you and learn
from me, for I am gentle and a
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lowly in heart and you will find
rest for your souls.
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For my yoke is easy and my
burden is light.
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Yeah, so if you imagine yourself
trying to live up to all the man
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made rules of the scribes and
Pharisees, plus, you know, all
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the laws and we can even talk
like abuses of the people.
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You know, real quick Side Story
to to you know, we we hear about
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the widow's mite, the lady who's
give given her last penny.
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And if you read that out of
Luke, I think it makes it clear
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that Jesus is angry, not at the
widow.
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But this box that's outside the
temple where these people are
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given money dates back to Ezra
Nehemiah when they're trying to
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get to get enough money to
rebuild the temple.
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Temple's built, Herod's done
crazy amounts, but they are
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still expecting people to give
to this.
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And the the Pharisees are
onlooking and they're seeing
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who's given what.
And it's just an abuse to the
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people.
Like, yes, great for that widow,
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not taking anything away from
her.
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But I think the overall point
and if you read it in its
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context and you get rid of the
chapter breaks and the section
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breaks.
Jesus is really showing this as
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a condemnation of the Pharisees
because they are continuing to
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be over burdensome on the
people.
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In contrast, not that the not
that everything is perfect and
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rosy in the New Testament
believer, but the New Testament
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covenant, we live in grace.
That's what Paul would say over
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and over and over again.
We live by grace.
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We live through faith in what
Christ has done for us.
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We're not trying to meticulously
keep the law because we're not
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justifying ourselves.
Jesus done that.
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And I think that's what he's
saying in Chapter 11 about
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taking his yoke upon him because
it's light.
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It's it's easy.
Yeah, I think it goes back to
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the beginning of those
Beatitudes.
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Blessed are the poor in spirit,
just identifying the different
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attitudes, because if you're
looking at Matthew 11, the
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paragraph right before that,
he's saying woe to you.
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It's going to be worse for you
than it was for, you know, Tyre
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and sight and Sodom and
Gomorrah.
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And it's because you did not
repent.
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You were not broken over your
Senate.
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It's, it's that whole mindset
because I, you know, I think
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it's, I like how Matthew put
these two things back-to-back
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because you see that rest, but
you see, you're not repenting.
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You see these miracles and then
you don't come to Christ, you
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don't come to that rest that
that's not good news.
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No, no, that's good.
No.
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Good.
We got some application at the
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end that you gave everyone.
Number one, are you guarding?
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Are you fencing your hearts #2
do you tend towards rules,
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legalism, or towards grace and
this license to sin?
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How do you find the balance?
And you pulled out this verse
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I'm not familiar with.
Yeah, so I remember when Joel
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first came, like it was Acts
242, Acts 242, Acts 242.
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And I have over time, it's like
repetition is the mother of
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learning.
And it's like, OK, I, you become
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a believer.
And I don't know, maybe four or
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five, six years into it, you
know, I was always thinking Acts
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242 church, Acts 242 church.
We as a church, we want to be
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about the word.
We want to be about prayer.
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We want to be about fellowship.
We want to be about breaking
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bread, communion.
And what does that mean?
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You know, worship and word and
deed and witness all those
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things that were we exalting
Christ, great.
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But if we're going to be about
that as a church, we got to be
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about that as families like my
family, your family, the Hawks
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family, all, all the families in
church.
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We have to be an Acts 242
family.
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And you know how that happens.
Well, probably on the moms and
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the dads, but individuals in
that family had to be Acts 242
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families.
And if you build those
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foundational building blocks, I
think it's going to be a guard
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against legalism, against
license, against all manner of,
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you know, ways we can get off
the, the true and and narrow
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path.
I totally agree.
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That's a great church to the
family, to the individual.
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And then application #3 have you
found rest in Jesus?
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Kind of where we ended in
Matthew 11.
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If you haven't come to Christ,
if you haven't realized your
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need for sin, I mean, you're,
you're missing the boat.
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If if you do with these things
great or you don't do these
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things great.
It's it's you're missing that
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that foundational that central
piece of of your life.
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So great challenge at the end
for any of those out there who
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might not know Christ as their
savior.
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Great sermon.
Michael, any parting words for
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us?
No, it's a pleasure to preach.
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I think Joel is a good standard
by which to you know, I try to
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follow him as he's following
Christ.
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Think he does a great job in his
sermon.
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So try to kind of copy his
format and stuff.
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So hopefully I it's great
justice.
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It was, it was great.
Thanks for hanging in there with
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us.
That's our take.
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Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
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Find us wherever you find
podcasts and on YouTube for
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those who want to watch our
video cast.
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Blue Chiefs.
I knew that would get you right.
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,640
It's that time of year again,
Michael.
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Oh, not fall.
We're coming into fall.
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We're coming.
Into fall, rounding out
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summertime sports are starting
out.
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My, my, what?
I mean to say, it's time for
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sports.
Yeah.
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My kids, they start soccer on
Monday.
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Exciting.
Who's coaching them?
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I'm coaching them.
Oh.
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Did you?
You didn't need a necessary
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coach.
I feel like you're I should, I
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should have asked you, but I
feel like you were busy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enough.
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And this is K through 2nd grade.
It's good.
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Next year, we will tag team
coaching.
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If is, is Phoebe in kindergarten
next year?
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Phoebe's in kindergarten next
year.
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That'll be, that'll be.
I was like, Man, Jackson,
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Jordan, Phoebe Everly on the
same team.
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Yeah, that'd.
Be good.
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That's that's pretty, pretty
cool.
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And then on top of that, you
know, had a nice, you know, I
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feel like done today.
Played some frisbee, got 6 miles
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in, jumped into cold plunge.
So I'm, I guess timing, maybe,
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maybe, maybe you've seen this,
maybe not.
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But keep the lookout for that
bonus episode to drop down.
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And and and NFL starting back
up.
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We had the Chiefs just laying
the smack.
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Down football's where this is
going.
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This is where this is going
because it just when you watch
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beautiful.
Football.
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Man, Mahomes just can't stop the
Chiefs, am I right?
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You can't when they have the
refs on their side.
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And I know people like, show me
the plate.
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Like I posted something on
social media complaining about
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this and people come in, they're
like, well, here's this place
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where this touchdown wasn't
awarded to the Steelers.
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Jonathan Hyde, I'll call you out
right now.
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I think it was you that no.
Steelers don't get calls, I'll
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tell you that.
And I'm like, there's a logical
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explanation.
You in order to score a
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touchdown, you have to have a
reception.
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In order to have a reception,
you have to survive contact with
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the ground or make a football
move.
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We can debate whether that's a
good rule or a bad rule that but
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the rule was applied accurately
in that case, so no touchdown
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was awarded.
But Oh my goodness, Chris
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Collinsworth, you can get me
started.
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Like he's like defending.
He's defending Kelsey, who has
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his arm around something.
He's like, well, you know,
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that's hard for a receiver like
that to block these defensive
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ends, blah, blah, blah.
And like, like, make it being an
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apologist for a clear violation
of the rules.
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Then later on in the game, This
is why I turn it off like
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Ravens, like he's blocking,
blocking like his fingers like
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for a split second.
Flag on the play.
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Clothes on but the runner's
already passed and it is in the
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NFL rules like what's the users
word I can't think of but it's
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like incidental.
Incidental holding isn't called,
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so if it doesn't affect the
play, that sounds.
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Like it affected the play
greatly.
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Yeah, yeah.
No, no.
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Nothing's more beautiful than a
Pats fan complaining about the
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refs not coming to their
defense.
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This is like, I am just loving
it.
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This is what I wanted to say
that I'm not a choose fan.
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I'm Steelers fan.
But man I do.
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I do like Mahomes Tuck.
You list it out.
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Tuck rule.
Oh, Tuck rule.
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Oh my goodness.
It followed the rule.
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It was there before Brady was
ever in the league.
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So all of these things that I
hear over and over again, check
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out the instances they don't
hold.
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Up and if you're a Pats fan, you
cannot ever complain about the
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refs.
I will say this, I will say
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this.
Maybe in the course of watching,
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I saw one or two over like a
couple years where Brady got a
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roughing in the past or I
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bit, maybe a little ticky tacky.
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about the game on Thursday.
I'll admit that.
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Here's here's a thought.
You know, Lamar could have just
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thrown it to the wide open guy
in the end zone a couple times.
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Yeah, two times in a row.
I stopped watching at that end
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point and and I'm not a Ravens
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I just you're a Chiefs hater.
You're a.
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Chiefs hater.
That's true.
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That's true.
I probably hate the Chiefs more
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than the Steelers or The Jets at
this point, which is most past
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fans shouldn't.
I will say this one last thing.
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I've been in a game where my
defensive lineman were getting
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held and it wasn't called.
I have coached that and it
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affects how you have to prepare
an attack as a defense because
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now if if my defense is getting
in, they're getting held and
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that pressure doesn't get
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and the quarterback's free to
throw, you have to make
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adjustments that then make the
run more advantageous.
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defense when holding isn't
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called and it it just has
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I love how mad you're getting.
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This is great.
This is great way to start the
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podcast and and this has a lot
to do with the service survey on
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the mountain well.
If you abuse the rules of the
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NFL, then and misuse them, then
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If you misuse and abuse the Old
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Amen.
It leads to bad things.
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There you go.
I love it.
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Let's take it to the next level
from the hearts of the Low
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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where
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we take theology to the next
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Another another sermon that I
wasn't there for, but I'll be
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honest, I heard the guy wasn't
that good anyway.
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Yeah, it was, it was.
It was skippable.
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No, we had a guest, a guest
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Really not a guest speaker.
You've been preaching like every
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other month, so really you're in
the rotation, you know?
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Someone said something and I was
like, well, we as elders told
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Joel, take a few more Sundays
off across the year.
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We want him to last 10 more
years, so if that means instead
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of being gone out of the pulpit
2 * a year, you're gone 456
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times a year, that's fine.
Word management.
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It's like the NBA.
You gotta like rest.
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Lebron's gotta take the rest.
So he's ready for the playoffs,
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you know?
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Well, great.
I listened to the sermon after
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the fact.
It was really great.
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Titled What the Law Could Not Do
from this prominent passage,
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Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5
through 7, What I like about
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what you've been doing, you've
been connecting it to where
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we're at.
Every time you preach, you're
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connecting it to Romans to help,
you know, give us a maybe better
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perspective.
Yeah, that's what I was trying
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to do.
I was thinking about what do I,
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what do we preach on?
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it's difficult for me.
We're an expository preaching
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church, so we want to work
through a passage.
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through a book and you've given
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the intro and you kind of the
passage will tell you what to
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preach.
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and preaching a sermon kind of
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to just be like, all right, And
you kind of have to connect it.
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So that's what I was trying to
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I'm trying to connect it to what
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I thought, you know, what about
the Beatitudes?
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Because we just started talking
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And we know from Israel's past
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idolatry and really in this
license type of lawlessness
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phase.
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I think maybe we're gonna talk
about Ezra and Nehemiah, it was
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rubbable at some point in time.
I've seen some notes on those.
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That's.
Right, might, might be a couple
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months from now.
They got a lot to cover, but we
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will at some point.
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back, there was this very, you
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into captivity again.
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law and really they started
applying it.
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And what they started doing were
these fence laws.
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And so we talked about, I don't
want to monopolize the
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conversation, but we, you know,
we've talked about the mission
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of the Talmud before and we were
kind of both like we're not
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clear.
I, I did my homework since then.
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So the Mishnah, basically, if
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Old Testament and tried to
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the Mishnah.
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commentary on on those laws.
It's the rabbinical commentary
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and the kind of the adding to
like here's how you alley this.
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they put what we've called fence
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laws.
So imagine there's an area that
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you can't cross and in order to
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even more secure.
You put a perimeter around that
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so that if you don't cross the
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crossed this area.
Those two together, the Michigan
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and the Gamera form the Talmud.
So it's kind of the Talmud is
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the the the combination of those
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No, that that's good.
You gave some good examples just
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for context, like how are we to
think of some of these?
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I know in the past, you know,
Pastor Joel's done some, he had
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one like on, I can't remember
exactly what it was with like
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the toilet and how it flushes.
You remember this or how you
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wash hands or, I don't know,
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This, it was about how you wash
hands and how the water has to
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flow certain ways.
And it was this rabbi talking
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about how to be ceremonially
clean and how he's like dipping
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water and stuff.
And the the sad thing in all
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these that we're gonna name is
that they believe that is
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garnering favor with God when
they follow those very, I would
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say man made rules.
Yeah, and and you mentioned some
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of these two when when I was in
Israel, we stayed at this.
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It was pretty nice Dead Sea like
hotel.
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And, you know, they had the
Sabbath elevator, Shabbat
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elevators that we just get on
and get everything and the light
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truck already on in certain
places because you can't like
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turn stuff on because we were,
we happened to be there for a
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Shabbat.
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of those laws into effect.
And so you got you get on the
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slow elevator or the fast
elevator, you know, was one good
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example.
Yeah, because you couldn't start
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a fire, which is in the Mosaic
law, that is.
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There's a scripture that talks
about that.
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But rabbis, well, in one we
could talk about, you know, are
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we still under the law?
Who?
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You know, that's a whole
separate discussion.
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But rabbis have since equated
the use of electricity with
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fire.
You can kind of see how they
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would.
Make that connection.
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And so like you said, you can't
push a switch, a button or flip
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a switch.
But if you just, if it's just
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doing this thing on its own,
you're not actively engaging it.
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So yeah.
And you made those points with
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like air conditioning,
compressed air, if it's like,
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you know, going you're, you're
good, but you can't initiate
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some of that stuff.
Right.
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Yeah, they can press air so
that, you know, they have some
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sound powered speakers using
compressed air, some air
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conditioning.
There's these Eruvs, which are
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these streams that they run
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So you can get maps of these
large city centers like LA,
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Manhattan, and they tie.
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line.
It's very high.
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You can't hardly see it.
But there'll be some signage
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like this is the end of the
roof.
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And basically they're trying to
get around this fence law that
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says you can't carry stuff on
the Sabbath because that would
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be considered work.
That's not in the Old Testament
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law, but you know, the rabbis
has said you can't carry
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something outside of your
domicile.
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What's my domicile?
Well, if I do this like 42
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square mile, you know, a roof
around where I live, then I can
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claim that as my domicile and I
can move freely in there.
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legalism.
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In the end of the day, legalism
is using man's laws and raising
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them to the level of God's laws.
And it really has two effects.
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One, it puts people in bondage.
So you hear Jesus talking to the
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Jews of his day, you know,
saying come to me or weary
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because of all the bondage that
they were in, because all these
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meticulous rules that were man
made.
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But two, it kind of gives you an
out to not follow God's rules.
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Right, 'cause you got all these
other things that occupy your
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mind and we'll, we'll talk about
this in your sermon, Sermon on
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the Mount.
Jesus basically said, hey,
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you're off the hook.
You don't have to do anything.
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I'm, I'm, I don't care about the
law, right?
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Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The law's not no, that's not
what he says at all.
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That's.
The amazing thing when you get
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to the essence of it, it's not
like you're just telling people,
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hey, laws don't matter.
So I'm excited to get into it.
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about your sermon.
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You gave a good overview where I
think a lot of times people zone
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in on maybe like one or two
things.
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And you kind of gave us the
whole structure so you we can
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read it, know what's going on,
know maybe the logical
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progression or what Jesus is
trying to hit, which was, which
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was nice.
Yeah, so if you've read the
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Beatitudes or the Sermon on the
Mount starts out with the
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Beatitudes, and really that
heart attitude is what the law
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should have produced in them.
So I'm sure if you're listening
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to this podcast, you're familiar
with the Beatitudes, but you
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know, things like being poor in
spirit, being hungering and
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thirsting for righteousness.
If you were following the Old
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Testament law and you were
giving those sacrifices day in,
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day out, and you were honest
with yourself, oh man, I sinned
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again.
I got to do another sacrifice.
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This should lead you to this
brokenness that Jesus talks
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about in the Beatitudes.
Yeah, look that that's like
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that's kind of the starting
point if that if that frames the
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the conversation, how you think
about your sin that will drive
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you to to the right place.
You kind of worked worked
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through those and then has this
idea of, you know, suffering
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that that's that's that's a big
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So there's the couple verses
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that kind of toward the end of
the Beatitudes where Jesus says,
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you know, blessed are you and
you are persecuted for my name's
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sake or for righteousness sake.
A couple verses there that he
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gives.
You can read that.
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But again, Paul talks about the
law being a tutor, and it should
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lead you to this place where,
like, you know what?
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I I don't deserve anything.
What I deserve is hell.
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behalf of God.
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I'm willing because my what are
you having rights?
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And on top of that, you're just
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naturally gonna have a love for
others because same thing.
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What?
Who am I, right?
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I'm gonna love others.
I'm gonna be thinking
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missionally talking about being
salt and light and all these
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things.
It all kind of flows out from
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that beginning part.
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And I tried to make the point
that we have what's been called
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the Great Commission, some
people call it the Everyday
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Commission in the new test for
New Testament believers.
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There's not really something
like that on par for the Old
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Testament believers.
But we see hints of that
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missional mindset, the Abrahamic
covenant, where it says you're
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going to be a blessing to all
nations.
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We see Jonah being called to go
to Nineveh.
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There are places, you know,
where Jesus referenced the
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Gentile widow that takes care of
Elijah and and one other thing
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that he oh the Naaman, the guy
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leprosies cleanse.
He's like, and then the Jews try
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to kill him 'cause he's showing
that this gospel is not just for
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the Jews, it's really for the
Gentiles.
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But the Jews did not have that
mission mindedness at all.
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Yeah.
That's pretty amazing that those
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are his examples and that just
brought on top.
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He says, hey, first I'm the
Messiah and then here's some
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here's some examples and man
riling people up so that the law
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should have produced all of this
in in the Jews and it it did
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not.
So what do we do with the law?
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Do we just throw it out?
Yeah, well, in some sense for,
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and this is where we gotta like
you might hear people say the
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Sermon on the Mount is for Old
Testament Jews only, period, not
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for the church today.
And then you hear people that
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kind of miss the fact that Jesus
is addressing abuses of laws and
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they just interpret it through a
New Testament church lens.
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And I think both of those
extremes are bad takes.
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So really you should recognize
Jesus is correcting abuses of
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the law.
But there's good things in there
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for us.
In Jesus's time they were still
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under the Old Testament law and
he was saying not one of these
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jots or titles.
If you are the reading from the
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KGV will pass the.
Ball.
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Until everything is fulfilled.
And so you could say, well,
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maybe when Jesus died on the
cross, he fulfilled the Old
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Testament law and brought the
Mosaic law to an end because
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he's ushering in that new
covenant.
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But in the same token, we see
everything that Jesus mentions
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here.
These are moral laws that are
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repeated in the New Testament
for the believer.
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Yeah, he's he's and he goes
through and takes one and says,
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hey, actually I'm, I'm raising,
raising the standard.
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These are not only good, but if
you get to the heart of the law,
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if you get to what's really
behind it all, I'm taking it a
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step further.
And I think on one hand, a lot
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of people understand that, but I
think a lot of people don't
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understand that.
And they're like, Jesus came, we
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could do whatever we want, you
know, and it's like, no, if when
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you read and it's great that he
has different examples, not just
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one, he does it in several
cases.
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I think he did a good job of
using, you know, one of these or
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a couple of these and saying
same patterns kind of done
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throughout.
Yeah.
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So the one that you know, he
takes up murder takes up lust.
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I believe he takes up being
dishonest.
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You know, let your yays be a
your Navy.
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Nay, but in the murder 1
specifically, he's going to
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quote the law.
He's going to say, you've heard
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that it's been said you
shouldn't murder.
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And if you do murder, you're
going to be guilty of the court.
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And then he takes up, yeah, he's
gonna say, but I say to you.
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And all of these things start
getting at the heart.
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If you're angry at your brother
without a just 'cause if you say
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to your brother you are good for
nothing.
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If you say to your brother a
fool or we might say stupid.
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And hopefully you can see that
the degree of those sins is
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lessening.
So it goes from murder angry
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without just cause.
Calling your friend good for
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nothing, calling him you, you
stupid.
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But the consequences go up.
So it goes from being guilty of
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the court, guilty of the Supreme
Court, guilty of Hellfire.
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Then you look at that, you're
like, yeah, does that make like,
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I don't understand, but there is
a point you pointed out really
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well.
Yeah, yeah, so.
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And in contrast to the defense
laws, we're usually thinking on
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a physical level, like don't go
this far out, you know, don't do
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the, don't eat these things.
Wash your hands.
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Really, Jesus saying you should
be fencing off your heart.
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So if you don't want to murder,
don't be angry.
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And if you don't want to be
angry, don't be having thoughts
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about your brother like he's
good for nothing.
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And if you don't want to be
having thoughts like that, then
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don't be thinking your brother's
stupid, like you have to guard
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your heart.
And that little sin, it's a sin,
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and it garners you the
punishment of eternal home.
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Yeah, if you can try to get your
SIN in check on that level.
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I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure bad
stuff happens all the time, but
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I'm sure most people when they
do murder someone, where does it
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start?
And it's like we all can relate
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to thinking someone is dumb or
said something dumb and and
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acting out like that's so
practical that we need to guard
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that there because Jesus is
making a big deal about this.
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That's great.
And one more thought on that,
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like, you know, Tim, our
resident counselor, he talks
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about folks who struggle in
different areas and the triggers
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that they allow them to, you
know, this happened.
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This is how I responded.
And maybe if it's anger or I
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allow my mind to do this, I
looked at this and then I went
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here and went here.
If it's lust or, you know,
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gossip, you know, all of these,
you know, kind of the patterns
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that lead up to it.
And he'll talk about, you know,
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radical amputation.
Like, you got to get rid of
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those things that are leading up
to.
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Yeah, that's practical.
Look at your life, look at my
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life and catch those now it's a
lot easier to amputate a toe
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than a leg or whatever, you
know, don't let it take over
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everything.
And then from here, you correct
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me if I'm wrong.
You preach the sermon.
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You you kind of gave us kind of
like a you kept giving us this
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big picture of different things
Jesus was talking about, like
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giving us the site how to read
the Sermon on the Mount.
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Yeah.
So if you look at the beginning,
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he's really saying we talked
about this in the Beatitudes,
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you know, what the law should
have done.
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And then he's going to start
addressing different abuses.
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So towards the end of Chapter 5,
he's really picking up, I think,
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these abuses of the law.
And if you look at the what's
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the end of commonly the
Beatitudes or if you break out,
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you know, the salt and light
portion?
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He says unless your
righteousness exceed that of the
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scribes and Pharisees, you shall
know wise enter into the Kingdom
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of heaven.
That's the the KJV.
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That's what I had memorized when
I was a kid.
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Yeah, sorry.
And so.
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And that would have been a wow.
Yeah.
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For the big deal.
Scribes and Pharisees.
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I've got to be better than them.
These are the people who tie the
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a tenth of their mint and their
dill and their cumin.
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How?
How am I going to do better than
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that?
And then at the end of all of
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these corrections to the law,
it's like a bookcase.
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Maybe it's a a chiasm.
I don't know.
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But he ends by saying, therefore
be be therefore perfect, even as
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your Father in heaven is
perfect.
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That's the standard.
If you want to justify yourself,
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you've got to be perfect.
That's how chapter 5 ends.
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Chapter 6 starts looking at not
necessarily abuses of the law in
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particular, but abuses of
practices in the law, praying,
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tithing, fasting, worrying about
material things.
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Like it had been, you know, kind
of like our name and claimant
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preachers today.
Wealth was looked at as a sign
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of righteousness and and there
was all this worry about things.
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So he's going to end chapter 6
with this, you know, kind of a,
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a rebuke on people who are
caught up in, in material
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things.
And then Chapter 7 ends with all
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these woes and, and basically
saying you can do these things,
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but your fruit has to match your
heart.
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And if you've got bad fruit,
then you don't really know me.
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And then and we get some of
those, you know, I'll cast you
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out and, and you'll, they'll
say, but we did this, we did
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this.
I never knew you.
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So that's really the Sermon on
the Mount.
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And it's a big picture of how
the the law was abused.
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Now that that that's really
great to frame it in that way
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and Jesus just hits things.
Oh, I like that.
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There's so many examples, so
many little vignettes that
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there's a lot.
There's a lot in here.
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I know most are very familiar
with it, but it's just so great
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to great to revisit over and
over.
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So what else would you want to
hit on?
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Well, I will say I do want to
caveat one thing.
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It might be that Jesus did not
say all these things at one time
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at one setting.
Maybe He did, maybe He didn't.
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The reason why we would have
some questions about that is,
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one, we know the tendency of
Jews to group things
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thematically, and that was how
they preferred it.
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And so Matthew being a Jew,
being a follower, disciple of of
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Christ, could have taken these
things and grouped it into a
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single coherent thing like we do
when we do systematic theology,
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like we grab verses from all
these places behind, put them
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together.
What's the overall story?
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I'm not saying he did or didn't.
It's just a possibility that he
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didn't and the reason we might
think that he didn't was because
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Luke, who's writing to a
different audience with a
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different preference and how we
take kind of more what we would
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think of in our Western American
culture.
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We think of a biography.
We want it, you know,
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chronological in order.
Read the opening of Luke.
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He's like I know other said,
other gospels have been out
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there, but I'm putting together
A1 that's orderly.
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And so you see these sayings,
all these sayings are there, but
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they're kind of spread out in,
in Luke.
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So I, I don't want anyone to get
hung up on that.
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The harmony of the gospel.
Maybe you did, maybe it didn't.
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And really that theme
thematically versus
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chronological viewpoint that
solves a lot of your problems.
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I was going through Ezra and
Nehemiah and boy, chronology is
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all over the place.
Ezra chapter 4 is like at the
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end of the it's, it gets
confusing with the kings.
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They're dropping kings
everywhere.
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And it's because they're trying
to group things thematically.
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And that's a big, I think that's
a really good, good take away
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when you try to, you know, and
that that might be one of the
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reasons it's outlined so nicely.
You know, how it, the book ends
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and everything.
It might be you know who.
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We can't say for sure what else
you want to hit about your
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sermon here.
Well, I'll just say, you know
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the end, and we kind of already
hit this again, You know, if you
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bookcase those beginning and
ends of where he's really diving
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into the law, righteousness has
succeeded that of the scribes
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and Pharisees.
And then at the end, he says,
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your righteousness basically has
to be on par with the Father.
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You got to be perfect.
If you turn over to Matthew 11
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and do you have it there?
Yeah.
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Why don't you read that verse
for us?
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Great, Matthew 11 if I look down
at verse 28, Jesus says come to
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me all who labor and are heavy
laden, and I will give you rest.
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Take my yoke upon you and learn
from me, for I am gentle and a
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lowly in heart and you will find
rest for your souls.
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For my yoke is easy and my
burden is light.
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Yeah, so if you imagine yourself
trying to live up to all the man
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made rules of the scribes and
Pharisees, plus, you know, all
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the laws and we can even talk
like abuses of the people.
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You know, real quick Side Story
to to you know, we we hear about
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the widow's mite, the lady who's
give given her last penny.
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And if you read that out of
Luke, I think it makes it clear
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that Jesus is angry, not at the
widow.
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But this box that's outside the
temple where these people are
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given money dates back to Ezra
Nehemiah when they're trying to
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get to get enough money to
rebuild the temple.
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Temple's built, Herod's done
crazy amounts, but they are
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still expecting people to give
to this.
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And the the Pharisees are
onlooking and they're seeing
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who's given what.
And it's just an abuse to the
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people.
Like, yes, great for that widow,
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not taking anything away from
her.
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But I think the overall point
and if you read it in its
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context and you get rid of the
chapter breaks and the section
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breaks.
Jesus is really showing this as
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a condemnation of the Pharisees
because they are continuing to
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be over burdensome on the
people.
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In contrast, not that the not
that everything is perfect and
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rosy in the New Testament
believer, but the New Testament
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covenant, we live in grace.
That's what Paul would say over
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and over and over again.
We live by grace.
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We live through faith in what
Christ has done for us.
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We're not trying to meticulously
keep the law because we're not
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justifying ourselves.
Jesus done that.
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And I think that's what he's
saying in Chapter 11 about
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taking his yoke upon him because
it's light.
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It's it's easy.
Yeah, I think it goes back to
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the beginning of those
Beatitudes.
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Blessed are the poor in spirit,
just identifying the different
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attitudes, because if you're
looking at Matthew 11, the
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paragraph right before that,
he's saying woe to you.
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It's going to be worse for you
than it was for, you know, Tyre
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and sight and Sodom and
Gomorrah.
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And it's because you did not
repent.
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You were not broken over your
Senate.
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It's, it's that whole mindset
because I, you know, I think
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it's, I like how Matthew put
these two things back-to-back
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because you see that rest, but
you see, you're not repenting.
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You see these miracles and then
you don't come to Christ, you
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don't come to that rest that
that's not good news.
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No, no, that's good.
No.
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Good.
We got some application at the
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end that you gave everyone.
Number one, are you guarding?
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Are you fencing your hearts #2
do you tend towards rules,
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legalism, or towards grace and
this license to sin?
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How do you find the balance?
And you pulled out this verse
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I'm not familiar with.
Yeah, so I remember when Joel
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first came, like it was Acts
242, Acts 242, Acts 242.
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And I have over time, it's like
repetition is the mother of
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learning.
And it's like, OK, I, you become
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a believer.
And I don't know, maybe four or
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five, six years into it, you
know, I was always thinking Acts
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242 church, Acts 242 church.
We as a church, we want to be
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about the word.
We want to be about prayer.
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We want to be about fellowship.
We want to be about breaking
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bread, communion.
And what does that mean?
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You know, worship and word and
deed and witness all those
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things that were we exalting
Christ, great.
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But if we're going to be about
that as a church, we got to be
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about that as families like my
family, your family, the Hawks
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family, all, all the families in
church.
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We have to be an Acts 242
family.
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And you know how that happens.
Well, probably on the moms and
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the dads, but individuals in
that family had to be Acts 242
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families.
And if you build those
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foundational building blocks, I
think it's going to be a guard
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against legalism, against
license, against all manner of,
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you know, ways we can get off
the, the true and and narrow
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path.
I totally agree.
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That's a great church to the
family, to the individual.
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And then application #3 have you
found rest in Jesus?
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Kind of where we ended in
Matthew 11.
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If you haven't come to Christ,
if you haven't realized your
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need for sin, I mean, you're,
you're missing the boat.
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If if you do with these things
great or you don't do these
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things great.
It's it's you're missing that
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that foundational that central
piece of of your life.
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So great challenge at the end
for any of those out there who
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might not know Christ as their
savior.
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Great sermon.
Michael, any parting words for
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us?
No, it's a pleasure to preach.
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I think Joel is a good standard
by which to you know, I try to
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follow him as he's following
Christ.
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Think he does a great job in his
sermon.
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So try to kind of copy his
format and stuff.
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So hopefully I it's great
justice.
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It was, it was great.
Thanks for hanging in there with
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us.
That's our take.
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Thanks for listening to Take
Two.
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