Joshua 7 | Dividing the Land: From Lot Casting to Lasting Promises
Episode 2.83
In this episode, Michael and Zach walk through Joshua 18–21, a section often dismissed as tedious land surveys but loaded with theological weight. As the conquest narrative slows, the focus shifts from battle scenes to boundary lines—yet the central theme remains unchanged: Yahweh keeps His promises.
Joshua 18 opens at Shiloh, where the tabernacle is established and the remaining tribes are confronted for their hesitation. Though the land has been subdued, Israel has grown slack in fully possessing what God has given. Through the casting of lots, the inheritance is formally distributed—Benjamin, Simeon, Zebulun, Issachar, Asher, Naphtali, and Dan—each territory marking tangible fulfillment of ancient covenant promises.
The episode highlights the structural bookends of this section: Caleb’s bold faith (Joshua 14), the hesitation of the Joseph tribes (Joshua 17), the sluggishness of the remaining seven tribes (Joshua 18), and finally Joshua’s quiet reward (Joshua 19). The contrast echoes the twelve spies: faith versus fear, obedience versus delay.
Joshua 20–21 then move to the “finishing touches” of the land. The Cities of Refuge reveal a profound theology of justice, mercy, and substitution—where freedom comes through the death of the high priest, pointing forward typologically to Christ. The Levites receive no territorial inheritance, yet are scattered throughout Israel as a reminder that worship and instruction remain central in a decentralized, kingless nation.
The episode culminates in Joshua 21:43–45—one of the theological high points of the book—declaring that not one word of the Lord’s promises failed. What appears mundane proves monumental. The dividing of the land is not administrative filler; it is covenant fulfillment in geographic form.
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We continue on.
In our journey.
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In our journey to.
The promised Land.
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Yes, the promised land of
podcasting.
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Something like that.
Joshua what?
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What episode are we on here?
I.
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Think this is Joshua 7-8.
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Yeah, I think so.
It's hard to keep track because
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our notes that I made do not.
Correspond I could look at, I
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number them, post them.
So I mean I I can.
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Verify them.
The user will see this is you
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know, you know.
I keep it numbered.
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That's true.
That's true.
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You do a good job with that.
While while you're looking that
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up, I'll just do a brief kind of
review, but working our way
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through the book of Joshua,
we're in this well, Joshua, if
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we want to kind of really get
the get the overview we have
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like before they cross into the
land, they're crossing into the
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land, they take the land and
we're talking about Joshua and
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Israelites dividing the land.
We last episode, we kind of hit
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the first part of that.
This episode will finish out
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chapters 18 and 19.
Last episode we talked a little
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bit about Caleb as kind of this
good example.
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Didn't we talk about?
Caleb from the tribe of Judah.
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Caleb from the tribe?
Yeah.
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Cause 'cause Joshua was like
Ephraim.
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Or.
Manasseh, one of those, Yeah,
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Manasseh, probably we talked
about that.
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I already forgot.
So we have Caleb this good
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example, and we have a couple
bad examples.
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Then at the end of what we're
gonna talk about today, we have
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Joshua as a good example.
So it's kind of like bookended
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with the good bad in the middle
if you were looking chiasm.
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There there's a word for that in
the Navy, but I I won't say it
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here.
It's a little bit on the little,
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little on the off color.
Itself.
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Little little yeah, there we go
Well, thanks for for refraining.
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And so if you're thinking of it
as kind of a chiasm, you might
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be right where the middle
portion is all negative.
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That's kind of like the major
take away like we see these good
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examples, but really what kind
of?
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Majority is not.
Good and that that sets the
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stage for judges.
So yeah, what episode where we
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on?
This is episode 7, so it should
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be, you know the number of
perfections.
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Wow.
Should be the best.
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The best yet.
Well, I love it that that's kind
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of the introduction what we're
going to talk about.
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Anything else you want to say?
I think.
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That's good.
Well, let's go ahead and take it
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to the next level.
Let's fire up that twangy music.
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From the hearts of the Low
Country in South Carolina.
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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next
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level.
You know, if if we were still
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doing our banter at the
beginning, you know what I would
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have done?
What was that?
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I was going to just bring in
like 10 or 12 or 15 dice and we
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could just roll and see like
like I'd be curious like we
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start with like while we're
talking I would just be rolling
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and seeing if I could get like a
match like 5 in a row of
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something or you know like like
start, you know, because it,
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it's easy to get double S kind
of triples a little bit hard.
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It starts getting really hard
once you try to get like 5 dice
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to all line up.
I.
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Have dice in my backpack.
Of course we won't say they're
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different.
They're not just all six sided
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dice.
Wow, 20.
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Some are 4, some are 812.
I I don't know why what they're
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for.
Yeah, we do have those dice.
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I love you got to on your
person, because you never know.
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You never know when D&D's gonna
break out.
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It's gonna break out.
Yeah, it's gotta be ready.
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Well, I say that, yeah, because
there are lots of lots going on
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as we continue to divide up the
land and, you know, yeah, when
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you think, think a lot, we where
else?
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Where else We read about lots in
the Bible.
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I feel like you know fairly
often you come across them.
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Well, there's a guy named Lot,
but that's a different different
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context.
Yeah, it's very different.
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Yeah, well, they cast lots to
not have to tear Jesus cloak.
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Film.
Yeah, Jonah cast some lots
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there.
Yeah, New Apostle casting some
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lots.
Yeah, the two that basically met
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all the qualifications, they
couldn't decide between them,
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didn't want to wait for Paul.
That's my take.
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Oh, that's your take.
And my you know, since it's in
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the New Testament that she's a
possible, it seems like we
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should just use it all the time.
Lots are good.
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Let's just cast lots to make
major life decisions.
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I'm just kidding.
I just keep throwing them till
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they do what I say.
And it's like, this is great.
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So I, I guess what we can do is
we jump into chapters 18 and
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nineteens.
Lots of lots in these chapters
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like we often have done in this
series, we'll go big picture
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overview and then kind of take
take a deeper dive.
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So the first part of chapter 18,
we're going to see all of Israel
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assembled together for this and
we're going to see, you know,
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the Land's been subdued.
God's people have like this
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opportunity that they they don't
do well on.
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This is kind of like that
second-half of a bad example
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that we saw last week.
We see the land eventually, you
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know, portioned out to the
different tribes.
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Really the rest of 18, a lot of
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these boundaries of all the
towns, tribe by tribe.
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And then the end of Chapter 19,
we get to Joshua and kind of see
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him as this positive example.
So let's get in to Chapter 18.
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And what a time this must have
been.
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Like everyone comes together.
Can you imagine that like the
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whole assembly of Israel's
together to like see what's
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going to happen?
That's a lot of people I wonder
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I.
Know I should have looked this
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up.
Yeah, well, it says, you know,
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all of Jerusalem came out.
Yeah.
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Was it every single person?
This is a.
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Great hermeneutical, like what's
all mean?
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We're we take the Bible
literally, don't we Michael?
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That's right, but it's like.
You tried.
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To understand.
Someone might have been like,
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not, oh, you know, opt doing
something, maybe there's a
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crisis, you know.
What, did they leave behind?
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Some people to fortify each of
the city states that they'd
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already captured?
Yeah, that seems crazy.
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Military.
Seems crazy to put every single
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person Shiloh so I think if
maybe it's just a lot of people
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A.
Lot of people so so 18 verse one
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says the whole congregation of
the people of Israel symbol that
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Shiloh and so this is we're not
talk about it now.
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But if you you know, read
something like you know God
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desires that all should be saved
yourself or or or or if like if,
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if sometimes all needs
qualifying and you need to work
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through that all all that to
say.
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And maybe the whole congregation
kind of means something like a
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quorum or something, or like
representatives from every tribe
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or.
I, I, I think you're exactly
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right.
They meet at Shiloh, which is a
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significant place that that was
really in essence the capital of
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Israel for like 400 years before
You know what, what's the word
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when the glory departed from
Israel with Eli and he died.
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I can't remember the word the
the person like named there.
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Ichabod.
Ichabod.
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Yeah, exactly.
There's a song that's about
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that.
There you go.
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And so this was like a really
big deal.
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Shiloh.
This is where the Tabernacle
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would stand.
Later on, David would bring the
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ark to Jerusalem.
But this this was, you know, a
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significant place all throughout
Judges.
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It's central and geography
anyway, so we we see here
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Joshua, who's got all the
people's attention, announced
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that the land would be divided
up.
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Can you read for us verse #3?
So Joshua said to the sons of
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Israel, how long will you put
off entering to take possession
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of the land which Yahweh, the
God of your Father's, has given
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you?
So, so what's everyone knows
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what the task is at hand, How
are they doing so far?
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Like Joshua was like checking in
with them doesn't seem very
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positive.
Yeah, well, it seems like some
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have gone in and taken and some
are like waiting.
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I think we ended last time with
people going, hey, we don't, we
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don't really have it.
He's like, you do have it like
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you do.
Yeah, cut down the trees, go
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fight those people.
Like you knew that was the deal
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when?
We came here and maybe that was
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Manassa.
I'm not sure.
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They're like, hey, it was either
Ephraim.
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Manassa was like, hey, we need,
yeah, we have all these people.
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We're a large tribe.
And he's like, you've got plenty
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of land to go.
And they're like, there's
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Chariots of iron.
They're like, hey, you know,
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some scary, scary stuff there.
And, and So what you just read?
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How much longer are you gonna
like put this off?
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And and so now we've kind of
moved from those tribes on the
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other side of the Jordan to the,
to the tribes like in across,
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across the Jordan on the western
side.
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There you go.
Get some directional input
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there.
And what Joshua asked following
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this is he asked for three men
from each tribe to go and scout
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the lands and then write up a, a
description, you know,
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potentially, maybe possibly this
was, you know, to be motivation
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like the Land's great, it's
producing well.
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And and again, a theme we see in
Joshua and I think all
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throughout Scripture is, you
know, God gives him this land,
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but there's also obedience to
follow where all of this is
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grace, all of this is a gift,
but you need to act on this gift
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that you.
Begin to what God's doing.
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It it exactly.
There's diligence and and so
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they send out the scouts and we,
we kind of turn a corner to
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these lots that would be cast
before Yahweh and the lands
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portioned out.
And again, a good time to
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familiarize yourself with a
mapping kind of like it's, if
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you're going to read this, you,
you might want to follow along
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with the map.
So you kind of see the east,
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West, north-south, like where
they are, get an idea?
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Because if you don't it, it
might mean nothing to you.
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Right, Yeah, yeah.
Have a good mental image of that
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land.
You know, we had the class on
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Israel maybe two or three years
ago and you know, you, it's, you
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may think you have a good mental
image, but when you're asked
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like.
Draw specific.
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Like oh wait a minute, maybe I
don't have a good middle.
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Yeah, that's a good practice.
OK, where?
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Yeah, once you can.
And if you can have on some
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landmarks, at least you got
something.
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You know, he asked most people
about my, my son's going through
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like states, United States.
He gets a little tricky too.
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You're like, oh, South Dakota,
Colorado, like, you know, most
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people I think can you can get
like California and you can kind
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of get some of the boards.
But sometimes you know some of
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those square rectangle states,
man, just they should have made
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some of these states more
unique.
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I've been known to sorry for
quick side to hand draw.
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Oh, the.
US, the US with with the states
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in there.
Wow you should cause it's one
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time for impact.
We had a challenge where it's
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like everyone piece of paper,
write, just write all the States
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and more challenging than you
would think for a bunch of
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college kids where I don't think
anyone got all 50.
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That is crazy I think.
People got like 48 was like the
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most, some people got like 42 or
something.
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It was like, it was like, oh,
we're sorry, but there was like,
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not helper, I think.
You know, 'cause I think I
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could, I think I could in short
order give you all 50.
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Maybe we do that as.
Banters maybe.
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There we go.
That'd be pretty.
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And and then there was a time
limit.
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It wasn't but, but everyone was
like done with their list and
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still thinking it wasn't like
you didn't have enough time.
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It was, it was maybe it was like
8 minutes or something.
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It wasn't, it wasn't like 2
minutes.
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You know what I mean?
Like you physically would have
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enough time, but it was like, I
forgot this date.
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Something to try at home.
Yeah, there we go and we work
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our way.
Through so going from there, you
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know you should be able to like
take the map of Israel, put
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where all the 12 tribes are,
right?
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Yeah, if you can do this, come
on the podcast, you should be
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doing this a good, a good.
I think Bible trivia is like
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just name the 12 tribes.
That's hard enough, right?
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It's a car, Not it's a truck,
it's a car.
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I've never heard that.
That's great.
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Now I'll never forget that.
So.
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So we talked about Benjamin and
the formula.
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I think it's fairly similar for
all, all of these tribes as the
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boundaries.
They, they mentioned specific
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towns.
They'll say things like for
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Benjamin, they received the Hill
Country South of Ephraim, the
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land north of Judah.
Simeon, if you look at a map, is
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kind of like all subsumed like
within Judah's territory,
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Zebulun South of Galilee,
Galilee with Asher on the
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northwest.
Well, you know, we could just go
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on and on, look at a map.
It'll kind of show you where
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where things lay out and and I
think it's of of note, just like
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with so much in scripture, if
you're, you're looking at
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critics of scripture, these
chapters in particular are often
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criticized by historians for
being for having cities that are
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anachronistic.
We see this often doesn't mean
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I, I think it's easily
explainable.
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Like if Josh was writing this
after the fact or someone's
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writing this after the fact,
it's like you're going to, you
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might put cities that people are
familiar with.
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You know what I mean?
Writing it after the fact or
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even like cleaning it up.
After yes, that might be.
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Better after the fact.
So I was looking at, you know,
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the, the statement that you had
Simeon basically inside of
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Judah.
That's very odd to me because we
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always hear the 22 southern
tribes, but it's really 3.
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It really is I.
Gotta do some more research on
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this.
Because it's the 10 northern
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trials.
Yeah.
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You're looking in the map.
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It's like, it's like in there.
It's so interesting.
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It is weird how how these lots
fell like it.
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It is.
It is kind of kind of crazy.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to get a
soft track.
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No, no, you're great.
And so that is like the majority
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of it's like chapter 1811
through 1948.
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We get to the end of chapter 19,
Michael, and maybe you can read
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for us the very end, verses 49
through 51.
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We kind of close out these
chapters.
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All right, verse 49 says when
they finished appointing
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apportioning the land for
inheritance by its borders, the
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sons of Israel gave an
inheritance in their midst to
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Joshua the son of Nun, in
accordance with the command of
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Yahweh.
They gave him the city for which
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he asked Timna, Sarah, and the
Hill Country of Ephraim.
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So he built the city and settled
in it.
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These are the inheritance which
Eleazar the priest and Joshua
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the son of Nun, and the heads of
the households of the tribes of
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the sons of Israel, distributed
by Lot and Shiloh before the
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Lord at the doorway of the tent
of meetings.
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So they finished dividing the
land.
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Great.
Joshua is held up as this
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positive example, just like
Caleb was a few chapters before
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the bad negative, kind of in the
middle.
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And, you know, you look at this
whole section, we said it last
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time, it's like they're worthy
spies.
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You know, 10 were bad, two were
good.
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It's like just echoes of that in
this section.
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The chapter ends, the land has
been divvied up.
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And, and so I, I, I think one,
one thing that I was reading is
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that, you know, you're doing
your Bible reading.
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You can just like skip over all
of this because it's like just
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city names, places you don't,
you're not really familiar with.
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But, but even in this little
section, it talks about, you
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know, Hebron and Timathsera.
And if, if you're like looking
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at these places, they do tie in
with like Numbers and
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Deuteronomy and Caleb and
Joshua.
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It's like all these things are
very connected and those are put
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in very intentionally for places
that they sought out and saw.
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And it's, I think we lose that
in our Bible learning 'cause we
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don't have the big picture.
We're probably not, you know,
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living in the Old Testament all
the time either.
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So that that really closes up
chapter 19 where the Land's
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divided up.
We, we will this podcast look at
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chapters 20 and 21 to get some
finishing touches.
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Things like cities of refuge,
other things people are just
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like super excited to hear
about.
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Cities, refuge are important.
You know what?
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I mean, they are important.
Especially if you might be, you
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know, liable to accidentally
kill someone, you got to have
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got to get to 1 close by.
No, it exactly.
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Well, let's talk about that a
little bit.
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If we're, we get to chapter 20,
the whole chapter's devoted to,
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to cities of refuge versus one
through 6 recounts really what
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the Torah laid out that there
were these cities of refuge that
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that could be temporary or an
ongoing place of asylum for
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someone who unintentionally
killed someone out killed
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someone.
I, I think in the Torah, the
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examples are like a tool slips.
You're like chopping down a tree
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or something in the axe of, you
know, something like that falls
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and and it ends up pretty,
pretty bad.
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And really it is, you know, you
can think about these laws and
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be like, why would you like, you
know, protect?
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I don't know it, it really is
just to protect someone.
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You don't want another injustice
on top of it, right?
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You know what I mean?
Something is, if it's something
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like what we might call it a
involuntary manslaughter or
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something like maybe it wasn't
self-defense.
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So you can't be like, hey, this
guy came at me, but it was
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something that you may be
slightly negligible for, but it
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was like totally on accident.
From what I understand, you
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could flee to the city of
refuge.
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Now, if you were like lied in
wait to kill someone like what
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we would call first degree and
you fled there, then you would
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get tried and I think you'd
still get the punishment.
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But if, if you, I think from
what I remember of the Levitical
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law, if it was on accident, you
could flee here and then you'd
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have to stay here.
You would until the high priest
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died at least.
It would be like the time frame,
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which maybe it's a long time,
maybe you.
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Having a second accidental
killing.
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Yeah, I didn't think that's
pretty funny.
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What I wrote down was you flee.
You you could flee to the city
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of refuge.
And at that point, when more
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facts were known there, there
would be a trial of sorts that
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would take place.
They could, they could kind of,
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oh, this was people are talking.
This was not like this was bad
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blood or there's not really any
evidence that it was, you know,
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premeditated.
And we mentioned the high priest
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death brings release, which is
so interesting.
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And you look at, you know, even
a law like this and there's so
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much, you know, foreshadowing
pictures of Christ.
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There's like a death of a high
priest brings freedom, all these
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kind of things, liberation tied
to the death of another.
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The high priest death brings
more freedom.
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The New Testament doesn't, you
know, connect this, like
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explicitly this, but but you
read Numbers 35 and you read
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about how blood pollutes the
land.
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So you can't, you know, buy back
land that's been, you know,
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murderous and that kind of thing
only like true atonement of
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blood can can satisfy.
So so all that to be said, we go
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through these cities of refuge
I.
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Think it's so wise?
It is so wise it's crazy.
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It's like.
You don't want a system where
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someone who accidentally kills
someone, they get the same as
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someone who lies in wait.
But you also don't want a system
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where it's like, oh, it's
nothing.
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That's right.
There's a there's a little bit
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of penalty here.
Like you're going to be in this
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city until the high priest dies.
You're going to be separated,
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estranged from your family.
It's going to be, you know,
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you're going to be.
So there is a cost to shedding
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blood, even if it's like.
By accident sanctity of human
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life's important got uphold
justice, but there's like there
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is like tension how to handle
these things well so in verses 7
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through 9, we have 6 cities set
apart as cities are refuge again
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look these up on a map.
Three are in each side of the
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Jordan and and really they're
all kind of evenly spaced out
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north to South, like, you know,
there's some method to the.
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N 3 in the South, three in the
east, three in the West.
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Exactly right where where it
makes makes a lot of sense.
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I think I love this kind of
stuff too.
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And verse 9, this this is the
this is the law for not only
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Israel, but for sojourners too.
So, so it's, you know,
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provisions for those who would
kind of come alongside of
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Israel.
So that's chapter 20 chapters.
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Chapter 21 talks about cities
and pasture lands allotted to
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the tribe a Levi, which I think
I think is is interesting to to
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read about too.
Let's see if we want to read any
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of this.
I'll just kind of give big
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overview honestly.
Verses one through 3 talks about
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Levitical cities claimed in
faith.
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Maybe, maybe read verses one
through 3.
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Says Then the heads of
households of the Levites
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approached Eleazar the priest,
and Joshua the son of Nun, and
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the heads of households of the
tribes of the sons of Israel.
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They spoke to them at Shiloh in
the land of Canaan, saying,
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Yahweh commanded through Moses
to give U.S. cities to live in
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with their pasture lands for our
cattle.
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So the sons of Israel gave the
Levites from their inheritance
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these cities with their pasture
lands, according to the command
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of the Lord.
Also something you could easily
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just read over.
It's kind of similar to the
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passage we read last week about
that guy who only had daughters
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and the daughters were like,
actually Moses told us we could
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do this.
We're kind of like, let this is
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happening now.
Kind of the same thing.
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Like this was our family talked
about this.
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Now it's time, you know, kind of
carrying over God's promise that
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was, you know, years in the past
coming to reality.
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They're like walking in that
faith.
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That's verses one through 3,
verses 4 through 8 talks about
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these cities were determined by
Lot.
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And then the bulk of this
chapter, verses 9 through 40,
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it's just I should make you read
this, Michael, just, you know,
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just like looking.
At those words.
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But it's going to get to a bunch
of these names.
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I wonder if Bethlehem or maybe
somewhere around there was one
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of the cities.
That that's so interesting
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because.
We we do think that that that
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the shepherds were keeping watch
over a priestly flock.
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Yeah, let's just read this real
quick and we'll find out.
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And I'm just kidding, there's a.
Look there and it just says like
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13 cities of Benjamin and I
didn't see actually any city
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names as I'm scanning unless
unless it's further down.
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Yeah, you mean you might, you
might be right here.
436
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,240
Basically, the way this is
organized, it's it's it's this
437
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,040
orderly sequence where you have
Aaron's descendants, which would
438
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,240
be the Koethites, 13 cities.
Then you have the rest of the
439
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,640
Koethites that are not Aaron's
direct descendants get 10
440
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,040
cities, the Gershonites get 13
cities, and the mayor rights get
441
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,480
12 cities, All these different
Levitical borders we see.
442
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240
And then we get to the end of
the chapter.
443
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,680
Some would actually say, this is
like, you know, we often skip
444
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,680
over this.
This this for some is the
445
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,080
theological heart of the book.
Can you read verses 43 and 44?
446
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,960
Yeah, it says so.
Yahweh gave Israel all the land
447
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,000
which he had sworn to give to
their fathers, and they
448
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,240
possessed it and lived in it.
And Yahweh give Him rest on
449
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720
every side, according to all
that He had sworn to their
450
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,640
fathers, and no one of all their
enemies stood before them.
451
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,680
Yahweh gave all their enemies
into their hand.
452
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,680
Great.
Do you?
453
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,400
Want me to read 45?
Yeah, read 45.
454
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,080
Too, not one of the good
promises which Yahweh had made
455
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,760
to the House of Israel failed.
All came to pass.
456
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,200
Yeah, it it's kind of this
summary.
457
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,240
One commentator I wish I wrote
down who said this, but
458
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,680
essentially verse 43, you could
say summarizes chapters 13
459
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840
through 21.
You could say verse 44
460
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,480
summarizes all the victories of
chapters one through 12.
461
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,480
And then verse 45 talking about
all the promises of Yahweh come
462
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,320
to pass kind of encompasses the
whole book.
463
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520
It kind of has everything tied
up there.
464
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480
And in nutshells, we're kind of
getting to to the end.
465
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,880
The Land's been divided.
We've got this positive example
466
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,640
with Caleb, positive example
with Joshua, these negative
467
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560
examples.
But that being said, God was
468
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,400
faithful.
He gave them this land they may
469
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480
have not walked into, but God's
promises are good.
470
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240
We're not done with the book,
but you know, you kind of see a
471
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,120
huge summary and encapsulation
of what what, what we've covered
472
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,040
so far.
Very good.
473
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,360
So kind of look at what we
covered in this podcast.
474
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,760
We saw what we kind of this is
kind of Part 2 of what we
475
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,280
dividing the land.
So we started out Part 1 with
476
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,720
Caleb is a good example and then
some bad examples from Manasa.
477
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,080
I believe it was Ephraim or
Manasa.
478
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,720
Yeah, I think, I think it was
honestly both Ephraim and
479
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,920
Manasa, like both were not good.
Yeah.
480
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080
And then we picked up this one
with further dividing of the
481
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,240
lands and maybe some things that
weren't as good because they
482
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,600
were what were what reminded me
what were the the bad things
483
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,920
that they were doing this this
time?
484
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Well, essentially when when
Joshua was talking, he's like,
485
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,320
how much longer are you going to
put off taking the land?
486
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,640
It was kind of his.
They just had waited to so like,
487
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,000
Hey, let's let's get to it.
And then we see that they gave
488
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000
Joshua his land at the end,
according to to and then the
489
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,640
last chapter we covered was just
the apportionment of the Levites
490
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960
land, which was scattered all
over because the Levites were
491
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,440
there to be ministers all
through Israel, even though like
492
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,240
the main priest, the priestly
part was I guess at Shiloh for a
493
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960
little bit and then would have
moved to Jerusalem.
494
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400
So there was a there was a place
that they had to serve, but then
495
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,240
they were kind of scattered
throughout the we get to judges.
496
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,920
There's some weird stuff about a
priest following a guy around
497
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,360
and like, do you remember this?
And he had his own idol.
498
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Yeah, it's like with Dan.
Yeah, it's like the tribe of
499
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,680
Dan, and it's all weird.
It's weird.
500
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,360
It's weird.
So.
501
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:28,640
Yeah, you gotta.
Yeah.
502
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,080
And we maybe we should do.
Maybe when we do judges, we're
503
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,760
all in the judges.
Yeah, that's craziness in there.
504
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800
And then Michael read that kind
of summary statement.
505
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,600
End of chapter 21, really the
the rest of the book, as I'm
506
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,480
looking ahead, we see a little
bit more about the eastern
507
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,960
tribes.
They kind of return home back to
508
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,920
their lands.
They kind of finish out what
509
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960
what they said they would do at
the beginning of the book.
510
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,440
And then we see just a couple of
speeches by Joshua, you know,
511
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,400
gathering the elders, gathering
the people.
512
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520
It's, you know, famous last
words.
513
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,760
We get to that very.
A lot of people might have this
514
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,120
in their household.
Let that be a teaser like oh
515
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,920
what?
What words are this and and?
516
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,320
And then we get to the end of
the book.
517
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,440
So great.
Is it time to transition to the?
518
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,080
The last take.
The last take.
519
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,680
Yeah, we did.
We actually structured this
520
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,640
episode really well.
Yeah.
521
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,400
Like, I didn't just skip over
everything.
522
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,280
So this is good.
It's.
523
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,480
Good, yeah.
Yeah, great.
524
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,520
So you want to talk about the
thing that you were going to be
525
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,240
really nice and do something for
me and then you.
526
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,680
Didn't what we could.
I I assumed I I assumed that I
527
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,720
was about to get a bunch of
Patriots hate on this.
528
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,440
Oh wow, Yeah, let's talk about
first.
529
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,000
This is.
Great.
530
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,760
Yeah.
Let's talk about how we holding
531
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,760
up.
Are you at the point where
532
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,720
you've like rationalized?
You're like, oh, this, we're
533
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,440
I'm, we're just happy to be
there, you know, it's great.
534
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,600
I.
Think I said before that I was
535
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,520
we're happy to be there, right,
going front.
536
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520
So I don't know how that's
rationalization.
537
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,400
I think I said before last.
Season was you feel good about
538
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,440
your performance, you feel good.
Do I?
539
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600
No, I think I I posted on
Facebook.
540
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,800
Disappointed, but not
discouraged.
541
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,000
You feel, you feel optimistic
about this will be the true
542
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,480
test.
They've got a first place
543
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,560
schedule next year.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we would
544
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,320
expect the Browns to go to the
Super Bowl next year 'cause they
545
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,680
do have the seat, they have the
easiest schedule next year, So I
546
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720
guess that just guarantees
you're going to the Super.
547
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Bowl honestly I'm I was very
thrilled that the Patriots lost
548
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,080
like crate best part of my my
day, not my day because.
549
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,240
It was because you love you love
the Seahawks.
550
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,200
I'm.
Not, I'm not the Seahawks fan,
551
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,360
not the same Darnold fan.
But that being said, because
552
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,520
they lost, I feel like I can say
a few things nice about the
553
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,360
Patriots because I so happy they
lost.
554
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,600
On one hand, Mike Vrabel's
coaching plan, I was like, I
555
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280
didn't think he was creative.
I didn't think he like exploited
556
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,520
anything.
With that being said, if the
557
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Patriots get an interception on
the 1st Dr. which they almost
558
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960
did like 3 different times, the
I think that's the game.
559
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800
And so I think he came in with
the right game plan.
560
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,360
Pressure the heck out of
Darnold, overplay all the
561
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,640
receivers, jump all the routes
like he's going to make a
562
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,160
mistake.
And he didn't that first drive
563
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,120
and he, you know.
I think he made some mistakes,
564
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,280
we just didn't capitalize on
them 'cause we had, he had hands
565
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160
on ball.
So we were like stopping the
566
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480
passes from going, but we
weren't able.
567
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,840
So I it's obviously you didn't
capitalize on the mistake, but
568
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600
you didn't get the interception
in the pick and possibly picks.
569
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,200
'Cause I was like, I was trying
to think, 'cause I left that.
570
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,520
I was like, man, I feel like, I
feel like Vrabel's a good coach,
571
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,320
one of the better coaches out
there.
572
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520
But I was like, man, his game
plan was like very vanilla.
573
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,760
I think his game plan was we're.
Not gonna make defensive side.
574
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440
Yeah, he was like, we're not
gonna make mistakes.
575
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,880
And they didn't make a lot of.
I mean, it's, I mean it just
576
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,200
like, and I think that's
probably would work sometimes
577
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,960
against Sam Darnold in
particular.
578
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560
But man, I guess it honestly,
watching the Patriots, it
579
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,160
reminded me of watching like
every Steelers game this year
580
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,520
where as soon as the ball is
snapped, you got to throw it
581
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,600
right away.
You're getting sacked.
582
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,560
That was that.
It's so annoying. 3 and out,
583
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,720
three and out, Three and out.
Yeah, couple things to that.
584
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Yeah.
Well, first, I mean, we knew
585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,280
that Big Country, AKA Will
Campbell playing on a torn MCL.
586
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,120
That's tough.
As a as a physical therapist,
587
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,760
you should.
You know, that's tough.
588
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:17,120
It is tough to think at at what
point is your depth chart so
589
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,360
bad?
I don't know.
590
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,640
It's like if someone has like
torn, they only can use one leg.
591
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,040
I'm like, man, how you?
Could use it.
592
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800
I think it's just painful.
So you're just like, not at
593
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,400
100%, but maybe the best.
They had to go there.
594
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,560
But then I, I, this was this was
like a couple days ago.
595
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,240
So this is kind of recent.
I don't know, but we've talked
596
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,640
about this.
I saw a podcast.
597
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,360
It wasn't dudes on dudes, which
is a really weird name.
598
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,520
For very I will concur.
But it was another podcast with
599
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,280
football players.
And they're like, you know, the,
600
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,680
the rumor mill is that there was
a tell.
601
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,040
I saw this too, which also Josh
McDaniels.
602
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,520
You're a terrible coach if
that's true.
603
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Well, yeah.
Was it Josh?
604
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Did they say?
Because I haven't heard who?
605
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,720
No one said where the tell was
coming from.
606
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Yeah, but I.
I saw this too.
607
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,800
They speculated maybe it was one
of the offensive lineman was
608
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520
doing something.
There's a guy.
609
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400
It was like, yeah, the way yeah,
it was like how the offensive
610
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,320
lineman lined up, like they were
slightly, I don't know what it
611
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640
was, but they said it's like
every time run, play, pass,
612
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,480
play.
We know, yeah.
613
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,960
So.
So if you know that, that's a
614
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,520
huge advantage.
Huge advantage because they said
615
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480
there is film of them going run,
play, run, play, run, play,
616
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,000
pass, play, pass, play, pass,
play.
617
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Yeah, There's a guy that came
and did a clinic back when I was
618
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
coaching football and he played
the NFL and then they.
619
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Yeah, not to.
There's some things that
620
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,960
happened in his life that wasn't
his fault, but took him out of
621
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280
the NFL and then he played at
the in the Canadian leagues.
622
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,080
But he was telling us, you know,
who's emphasizing, you know, do
623
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,880
everything exactly the same.
Yeah.
624
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120
And he was saying that for him,
when it was a pass play, he
625
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000
would unconsciously riffle his
fingers.
626
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,040
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah.
627
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,560
And and that was all there was
like he would be in his line and
628
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760
he riffle his fingers and they
picked up on it and then he's
629
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,000
like it it to tore me up for a
game and thought someone finally
630
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840
said, Hey, you need you got to
fix this.
631
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,440
So it could be something small
like that.
632
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,120
That's like genius.
If the Seahawks like, to me it's
633
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,200
like, man, that's a great use of
AI is to like just look at
634
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,760
everyone and just see you like,
does someone do something weird
635
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,560
like that's crazy, 'cause.
You.
636
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840
Would think you could cause Josh
McDaniels is like supposedly
637
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,520
this like offensive genius that
like you can't disguise.
638
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,600
Well, if you, if you can't, if
you can't disguise a run play
639
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,360
versus a pass play, that that to
me makes me wonder.
640
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,560
It might not be his fault, but
it's like you, you feel like if
641
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,600
he, if he knows you might be
like, hey, bro, don't do that.
642
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,800
You're messing up my offense.
Like, you know, I'm not that he
643
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200
should know everything.
But and I bet the Seahawk just
644
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,960
kept that under wraps.
Like if you found that out and
645
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,360
you're just like, we're not
telling anyone until we play
646
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,440
them.
That is so smart.
647
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Then there was a a former
safety, defensive safety, now
648
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,560
CBS analyst.
He was looking at the, at the
649
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,120
let's just make it sure, making
sure our, our, our recording
650
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,200
said looking at the footage.
And he was like, there are
651
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,520
blitzes that the Seahawks ran
that if the Patriots are not
652
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,040
doing the exact play that we
were running, I say we are a
653
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,840
patriot, then New England is
like probably scoring.
654
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Yeah, he's like, I don't know
how they know, but somehow it
655
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080
he's like, I'm not accusing him
of cheating.
656
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Yeah.
I'm not saying that.
657
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,800
I'm just saying that they these
are such dangerous blitzes that
658
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,720
they only work.
Yeah, it's very risky.
659
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,520
If if they're dialed against and
time and time again they were
660
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,680
dialed against the exact play
that they needed to be.
661
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320
He's like, it was like they knew
the play.
662
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,960
So if you take that plus a young
Drake, young Will Campbell, an
663
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280
aging Moses on the the right
tackle, you can see our
664
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,200
offensive struggle.
So it's like I, I think there's
665
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,720
lots of blue sky.
You feel good about Drake.
666
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,360
You feel good about Drake.
Absolutely.
667
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,360
I love Drake May, yeah.
Well, we'll check.
668
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,360
We'll check in next year.
I do think Drake May is really
669
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000
good at throwing the deep ball,
but man, I mean, it's hard to
670
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760
evaluate when your line's bad.
Like honestly.
671
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200
I mean, he was second runner up
for MVP for the regular season.
672
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,280
That's true.
That's true with the with the
673
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,080
easy schedule.
Yeah, I I think next year we'll
674
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,600
tell.
I'm I'm curious how next year,
675
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400
yeah, you know, obviously comes.
I mean, because his last four
676
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,440
games were not the best.
I'm not playing.
677
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not claiming that he's as he
678
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,000
will surpass Brady or even
Mahomes the the Mahomes that you
679
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680
know, as much as I, I'll say
right now, I'm Mahomes as a, you
680
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840
know, for career, you know, even
though I cannot stay in my
681
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
homes, I, I put them above me,
But I think that may has
682
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,440
potential to surpass Mahomes.
So.
683
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,000
But like you said, time will
tell.
684
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Time will tell.
Yeah.
685
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,280
It's like, it was so crazy.
I I really wondered the Seahawks
686
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,120
like defense, like how they're
coaching room.
687
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Is it like do they just like
know all that stuff for all the
688
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,680
teams or like like that is like
I feel like that's like such a
689
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800
smart.
Yeah, I would think that if they
690
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480
are doing something nefarious.
That that's not that's not
691
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
nefarious their.
Coaches you know wouldn't get
692
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,120
into the Hall of Fame, you know
what I'm saying?
693
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,800
That's true, but because it it
was like man, he was under
694
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,720
duress like the whole like every
single like he got, he got
695
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,400
sacked like 7 times everything
or on average I think he there's
696
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840
like 28 sacks in the playoffs
for I mean he got sacked like
697
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,080
over.
And average of.
698
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Seven, maybe something like that
was a lot.
699
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:34,400
He got just like berated, which
I don't understand, like what
700
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,320
you would hate to see.
I'm curious what they do is like
701
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,000
the the Bengals move where it's
like, hey, we only play
702
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760
receivers bajillion dollars and
our quarterback bajillion
703
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,480
dollars and we don't pay for any
of our.
704
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,240
Lines I, I see I'm, I'm almost,
you know, sick of all the
705
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,320
Patriot stuff because all, all
of it is, I mean, I, I hope
706
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
hopefully I haven't sounded like
I'm just giving a bunch of
707
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920
excuses, although I'm saying,
hey, yeah, we got torn up.
708
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,520
I think these are contributing
factors, But I, I, I see a lot
709
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,800
of Patriot stuff and there's a
lot of excuses and a lot of
710
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,120
looking forward to rebuilding
and it's all we need a true
711
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,120
number one wide receiver.
We need, we need a good edge
712
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,600
rusher.
And I'm like, bro, we have to,
713
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
we have to figure out slash fix
the offensive line.
714
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,920
The Open has to perform better
in the future.
715
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Cuz Drake.
I don't like Drake May but.
716
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,360
You don't like Drake, May don't
like me.
717
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,239
Why don't you like him?
Man, just the way he looks, you
718
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,159
know what I mean?
I told this to Chloe.
719
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,320
He just looks like a spoiled
rich kid.
720
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,840
That's what I think.
But for all the things I don't
721
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000
like about him, I think.
A brother in Christ, I think.
722
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,639
I think he can throw a deep ball
good.
723
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,840
And I think like Booty and Diggs
were like great this.
724
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120
I mean, like if you have that,
you'll be like fine if you can
725
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000
protect Drake.
May you know what I mean, 'cause
726
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,719
he get he's he's he's an
accurate quarterback.
727
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,240
I know you'd like to think like
his shoulder was pretty banged
728
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,600
up, that like, 'cause he was so.
Accurate in that killing shot
729
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,800
injection before the game.
'Cause he was so accurate the
730
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,280
regular season and then he was
so inaccurate in the playoffs by
731
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760
comparison.
It's like he just, he played
732
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,120
really poorly for several games
in a row.
733
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480
That was uncharacteristic of the
regular season You.
734
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,800
You thought he played poorly
against the the Chargers?
735
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Maybe not the Chargers, maybe
just the once he progressed
736
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,440
correct I I think I thought.
He played poorly against the
737
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,720
Texans.
I I think did not play great.
738
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,200
I think he had a lot of fumbles.
He actually, I think set anyway,
739
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200
I think I think he was like
taking care of the ball very
740
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,040
well in a lot of these games.
And I I don't think maybe he
741
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,200
played better than I thought.
Maybe he was he was lighting up
742
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,800
the Texans.
And anyway, but I we'll see.
743
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,520
It's surprising to me that you.
Is it just because he has that
744
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
logo that you don't like him?
That's most of it.
745
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Most of it, Yeah, yeah.
I'm like just conditioned, just
746
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,040
Boston sports or just like,
yeah, it's just brutal.
747
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,720
It's just brutal.
It's it's hard.
748
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:03,840
The only I do like Jason Tatum,
but that's that's the one Boston
749
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680
guy most Boston possibly was
like, yeah.
750
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,080
How about Henry the tight end?
I mean, there is, there are a
751
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,960
lot of, I don't know if I said
this on this podcast or not, but
752
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480
there are a lot of, from what I
can tell, genuine believers on
753
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,480
the Patriots.
So, and like Trayvon Henderson,
754
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,680
there's a video of him saying,
you know, I at Ohio State, I was
755
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,120
a believer, but I wasn't living
like it, living in more in
756
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,840
immorality.
And I, I just went, you know,
757
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360
kind of just lean on God's
forgiveness.
758
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,360
It's like one day I woke up and
I was like, I can't, I can't
759
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,640
keep doing this.
And he like told his girlfriend,
760
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,560
like, I, we got to stop this.
If you need to leave, you can
761
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
leave or you can go to church
with me.
762
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,080
He's like, she started going to
church with me, got baptized,
763
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,000
got saved, you know, got saved,
got baptized.
764
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,720
They lived, you know, moral
lives and then got married, you
765
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,400
know, so.
That's like, that's good.
766
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,000
There's hope it gets traded, I
do.
767
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,600
What's that?
I hope it gets traded, I do.
768
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,480
You know, there's not a lot of
social clout that comes along
769
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
with that type of testimony
these days because most people
770
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,160
in the world will be like,
you're crazy, like.
771
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Yeah, that that would be I my
hat's off to that for sure.
772
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Stefan Diggs believer to to see
to see you do same moral
773
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,800
lifestyle all day on the same.
Page Man, we need to pray for
774
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Stefan.
But man, very, very charming.
775
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Very charming, yeah.
That's great.
776
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Well, that's good.
What?
777
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Well, you know, wrap up the wrap
up the Super Bowl.
778
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,720
Yeah, I guess no more football
talk for man.
779
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,480
Several weeks.
I will say this is what I did
780
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,040
hear about Charlie Puth.
I heard someone made a ton of
781
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,240
money because he like went to
the stadium like right out, like
782
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,640
he just like parked.
He was even to say like somehow
783
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,680
he was able to hear Charlie Puth
practice of the national anthem
784
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,520
and time.
Yes, and that totally.
785
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280
So, so I'm, I'm a pretty
emotional guy.
786
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Yeah, sometimes.
And I feel like I'm a patriot.
787
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Yeah.
So he's singing.
788
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,200
And to me, you know, the flag
that starts to banner speak to
789
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920
the ideals of what America
should be, not necessarily what
790
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920
we are all the time.
And so, like, I'm sitting there
791
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120
and praying for America while
he's singing and.
792
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,720
And stuff.
Yeah, I get a little tear in my
793
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,000
eye and you turn over and look
at me.
794
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,240
He's like, hey, do you know that
people bet on whether people are
795
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:23,880
going to cry?
And then you're like, well, oh,
796
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,680
oh, I mean people on the people
on TV, Like I'm trying to wipe
797
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,560
away my my.
That's great.
798
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,040
No, yeah.
That's because I was like, there
799
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000
was some odds, Like I think it
happens like once every three
800
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Super Bowls where like a player
cries and I love like, the
801
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,560
betting, like it has to get
specific.
802
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,240
Like eyes can't be watery.
A tear's got to be streaming
803
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,920
down the cheek for it to count.
And I didn't see one.
804
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,400
I was.
Looking for one either, yeah.
805
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,760
But you know, there you go.
Betting's ruined sports.
806
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,000
I know it it, it's like all over
the place.
807
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,840
It's like it can't be, can't be
great.
808
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,680
I'm not an anti betting kind of
guy, but I do think it's like
809
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,800
just so ingrained.
It can't be good for culture.
810
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Like I think a lot of people can
handle it.
811
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,080
I think a lot of people cannot
handle it and that you know it
812
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,480
really.
That's are the people who can
813
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,000
afford it the least are the ones
doing it the most.
814
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,640
So yeah.
Man.
815
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,880
Yeah, that's why I buy lottery
tickets all the time.
816
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,520
Hey, great.
Well, anything else on this last
817
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:17,840
take?
Oh.
818
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,200
I think, I think that's good,
yeah.
819
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Go pads.
Go Steelers.
820
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,840
That's our take.
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821
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,040
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822
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,560
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