Dec. 31, 2025

Crossing the Jordan: New Beginnings and the Slow Work of Grace

Crossing the Jordan: New Beginnings and the Slow Work of Grace

Episode 2.70


Every New Year feels like standing at the edge of something new. Fresh starts. New resolutions. Another chance.


But Scripture reminds us that real change rarely comes through dramatic leaps—it comes through faithful steps.


In this episode, Michael and Zach reflect on the biblical meaning of the Jordan River as a place of transition, renewal, and obedience. From Israel entering the Promised Land, to Elijah and Elisha, to Naaman’s healing, to Jesus’ own baptism, the Jordan marks moments where God brings His people through change, not around it.


Using the New Year as a natural pause for reflection, the conversation explores:


-Why we’re drawn to fresh starts

-Why New Year’s resolutions often fail

-How sanctification works through ordinary, repeated obedience

-The difference between chasing goals and walking faithfully in a direction

-Why God’s grace transforms us slowly—but surely


This is a reminder that the Christian life isn’t about instant arrival, but steady movement—crossing the water one step at a time, trusting the God who goes with us.


If you’re entering a new year feeling hopeful, hesitant, or worn out, this episode is an invitation to begin again—not with pressure, but with presence.


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New Year's resolutions.
I do them every year.

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I'll be honest, I don't
necessarily see all of them all

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the way through.
This is my philosophy.

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I'll get your take.
Sometimes I'll make.

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Like that's my take.
That's my take.

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Sometimes I'll make like a lot
like 7 or 8 resolutions.

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I remember last year there were,
there were quite a bit when we

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talked about.
It and then some fall to the

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wayside and I end up like
latching onto a couple.

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I found for me that works better
than putting all my eggs in one

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basket and being like not
feeling it or you know what I

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mean?
Like seeing what naturally fits

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my rhythms and stuff.
So were there any predictions or

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not predictions resolutions from
last year that you, that you

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know, like I, I didn't keep up
with that one.

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That's a good question.
I should look, I should look

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back at what I wrote down.
The ones that I did well with

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were tried to work out 100 days
out of the year and I'm counting

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a lot of things I was working
out, but I was very, I found a

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good rhythm consistency with
that, you know, not a lofty

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goal, but trying to read, I got
a book list I was trying to read

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through like did pretty good
with that trying.

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I don't know, those are the ones
I really latched onto.

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What about you?
Yeah, so I I adopted the same

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100.
I think I said like at least

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want to close my rings 100
times, which I did more than

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that.
And I think I'm on track to

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probably even doing 100
workouts, although I maybe just

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like where, you know, sometimes
I'm just walking all over my

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workplace because it's big and
I'm like, go.

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And so I looked down like, oh,
my rings are closed.

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And it wasn't like I plan to
work out.

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But, you know, if you're walking
for 45 minutes, then you can you

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can close your rings that way.
So yeah, I don't know.

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It's hard to remember what the
other ones were.

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I was trying to think I should
have come more prepared.

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Things I'm eyeing for this New
Year's we're this is airing on

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New Year's, but we got a couple
weeks to put together in real

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life.
I'd like to do some sort of like

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some not a task is the wrong
word, but achieve like I would

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love to be able to like walk on
my hands for 10 feet like like

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do some sort of skill is what
I'm trying to get at like learn

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a skill like that's on my
agenda.

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Can you?
Spin a ball and have it like sit

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on your fingers.
No, not good.

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I have tried like I I've not
like done serious.

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Work for eight years, 20 minutes
to 8.

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You know, there was a time when
I played basketball in high

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school and you can do it.
No, no, no.

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I would sit and try and be like
I can't do.

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This No, I I actually saw a
video recently.

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There's like black, like Blaster
a couple of rounds ago, US

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Olympic team Steph Curry can't
spin a ball on his finger.

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Good.
And it's like that made feel

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better and they did it and like
most people could but there are

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like 5 people on this 15 man
roster that could do like they

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would try, it would just throw
off and that made me feel better

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too.
I wonder what it is?

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I wonder what it is 'cause like
Steph Curry was like, he's like,

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I just played basketball.
I didn't focus on this.

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Well, he's like, I tried it when
I was a kid, but I was like, my

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dad had me shooting the people,
like a lot of the people, you

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know, 2/3 of them could do it.
They were like, weren't you just

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bored as a kid?
Just sat around all summer and

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just had a ball and you know,
and like some people did that.

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Some people like I just dribbled
it instead.

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But it is something like I same
with you.

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It's not like I've spent 20
minutes a day, but it's like I'm

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not making progress on it.
It's like I try it for 2 minutes

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and give up and it's like I
could never do it.

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Speaking of Steph, I saw this
video who's a really tall guy,

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Wimby.
Wimby Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I saw this video of him
practicing shots that just had

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this crazy high art on it and
they're like he's he adjusted

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his shot to allow for Wimby
trying to block it.

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Have you seen this?
I haven't seen that exact video

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but Wendy's ability to block
people's shots it is weird.

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It's insane.
Yeah, so, so the, so these

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shots, like they they look like
they're launching to the moon

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and it's like, wow, that's
crazy.

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It's pretty pretty cool.
Dude, if you if you look at a

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like a normal NBA player shot
anyway, like they just shoot

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with so much more arc than
normal.

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And it's, yeah, it's, it's and
said I found New Year's

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resolutions that I made last
year on my notes, worked out 100

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times, eat during the work week,
eat out one time a week.

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Did not keep that.
That was the one that did not.

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So I was like, and so I started
out doing that.

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Then I changed it to like OK
this just means I can eat out

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during the work week 52 times
out of the year.

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I remember I remember you
talking about this adjustment,

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but that probably didn't hold
either.

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Caught up with me, finished my
masters, that was good.

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And then some like read through
some family devotional plans

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that I got, which we didn't make
it all the way through.

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We made, we, we made some
progress on it.

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But you know, it's like we start
these things as a family and

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sometimes we don't get all the
way all the way through it.

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I was gonna look, I thought I
made a note about potential

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resolutions for this year. 1 was
a skill like walking.

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I had one more skill besides
walking on the hand.

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I was like, maybe I'll try.
It's not showing up in my notes.

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So I guess what?
That would be like something

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interesting.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Something like that would be
would be fun.

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I found my resolutions from
2023.

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Also did 100 days of working
out.

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This is similar to the eating
out, but I was like, I'm going

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to do 55 Cokes in a year or
less.

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Did not do well with that.
I started tracking it and it did

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not go well.
I was going to memorize John 15.

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I don't think I did that.
And if you were at a restaurant

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and you like ordered something
with and they refilled it, would

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that count as 2?
Is that I had to.

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Roll that, that, that, that was
one, yeah.

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And so we'll, we'll see I, I
need to do a nutritional one

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would be good to clean up.
I feel like I'm active, did a

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lot with like exercise.
I just my nutrition.

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That's the, that's the weak
spot.

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And I don't think I drink water
a lot, but man, you just can go

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on like not benders, but there
could be a week where I drink a

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Coke like 4 days in a row and
it's like, or I might go a week

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without it.
But then it's like, to me, it's

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like Thanksgiving, Christmas, my
family, it's like I'm just

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drinking a lot, you know?
And those are the times that

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like get.
You.

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Full diesel coke, Yeah, yeah.
The the real, the real deal, not

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the diet, Could maybe, Yeah.
So no, I I mean, as opposed to

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you're not using Coke as a
standing word for like soda?

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You mean like Coke?
No, I mean it could be any kind

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of soda.
Yeah.

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OK, so you are using Coke as the
as the South uses it, Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
It's like I only had 100 Doctor

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Peppers, but only one Coke.
I was being healthy.

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So yeah, you know, I should
have.

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I'm trying to think of the other
ones.

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I had some good ones for my
kids.

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I want Jayden to be able to
juggle a soccer ball 10 times

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for this new year.
He can like do it like two or

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three.
He's not very good at it, but

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it's like these are skills you
should learn as.

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A Jayden.
Let's get.

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Let's get with.
Get together.

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But that's something he could
do.

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He's like getting excited.
He had a great terrible soccer

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season.
We lost every game.

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But he got he got good at
soccer, he's getting good at

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soccer.
So it was good.

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So should parents have New
Year's resolutions for their

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kids?
I think so.

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I, I and I've done a bad job of
following through this one.

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I should follow through.
I've set some in the past with

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Jay and it's just hard to get
it, but that'll be a good skill.

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I think he'll see the the
payoff.

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But all that's to say, we're
talking New Year's resolutions.

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Anything else you can think of
on on this topic before we jump

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right into?
It I mean, everyone should put

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on their New Year's resolution
to read through Lord of the

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Rings at least once at.
Least once.

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This year.
You know, maybe I'll give

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another try.
I have read through like the

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first quarter of Fellowship of
the Ranks when I was in like

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10th grade and then, you know,
stuff.

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I think I have read the entire
Hobbit as like a ninth grade.

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Like we had to do it or.
Something The Hobbit in in Lord

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of the Rings are clearly
connected, but they're like

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they're kind of miles apart in
one sense.

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It The Hobbit is definitely
written at a easier reading

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level I think.
Yeah, probably I made.

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It and it's more trophy, I think
then Lord of the Rings, Lord of

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the Rings.
It can be pretty heavy going

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sometimes, especially with like
he describes landscape and like

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vegetation stuff on like, Yeah,
it can be.

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It's this is the part with art
and appreciating stuff.

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It's like some of that stuff I
never like depicting the scene.

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Some of it's good, some of it's
not.

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I have to bring this up.
Home groups yesterday.

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It was in, it was just it I, I
couldn't handle it.

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You were like Lord of the Rings.
There was a river they couldn't

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drink from.
And Jonathan was like that,

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like, like it was, it was too
much.

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It was too much like detail.
And it was, it was just like, I

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was like dying.
But you know, that's what I

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signed up for.
Yeah, yeah, there was.

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So there's one river over in an
Ausgiliath.

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Yeah, maybe he.
Was menus Menus Mobil can't

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drink that water.
No, that's the name of the town.

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But you couldn't drink the water
around me.

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Meanest mobile.
But I wasn't trying to talk

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about that river.
I was talking about the river

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that's just east of the misty
mountains.

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I think it's the the Nimrod or
Nimrodel or something like that.

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But it's like too cold, like you
can't drink out of it.

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But it does mix with the end
doing and eventually you could

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drink that.
You could drink the Anduan

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water.
Yeah, it was something like, you

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were like this river and you
said something and Jonathan was

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like the meanest mogul.
Like, like, like you knew what

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you were talking about.
But he like had like, he had

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some, you know, discrepancy.
Like, I don't know what he said,

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but I was like, it's, it's too
specific.

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We're saying funny words.
The point was the point, like,

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to me, like, that's a good
analogy for resisting sin.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was like, you know what's

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bad?
You shouldn't do it.

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And like, I think like orcs,
like they drink out of that

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water and that's where that led
them.

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You know, I'm sorry, but yeah,
yeah, yeah.

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That's.
Great.

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I love it.
Well, New Year's resolutions,

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Lord.
Of the rings.

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Lord of the Rings, we got it all
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Let's take it to the next level.
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From the hearts of the Low
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It's the Take Two podcast, but
we take theology to the next

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level.
Now, now, Michael, we did a New

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Year's resolutions one last year
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So here, here's a different
spin.

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This is where my mind was
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And and at the end, we'll kind
of jive with some of what you're

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saying in your last Sunday
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But if you listen to our
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every other episode about names.
So why not?

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Why not keep that train going?
If you ever, I don't know if

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you've ever looked up like what
the name Jordan, my third oldest

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means, I'm going to look it up
right now.

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Literally, Jordan means to flow
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And so you might be like, why
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or to flow down?
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his name based on, you know,
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literalness, what the word
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know, not geography.
It's also said but Jordan River,

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but more theological terms.
I thought this was.

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A good place?
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Like that's, that's, that's big.
Like sometimes I think, like in

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my mind, like, Oh, Kobe Bryant
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just like make, you know, cross
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so the Jordan River, maybe we
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see it in scripture, because in
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line of demarcation into, you
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you know, we had Jayden Jackson
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it was like, Hey, we're like,
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So where I already pigeon hold a
little bit like, Oh, this, this

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fits really well.
So you mentioned crossing over

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the Jordan River I.
Was thinking about that song

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Swing, Little sweet chariot.
Don't Take Me Home.

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I looked over the river Jordan.
What I see coming forward Take

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Me Home.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, exactly.

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So I tried to map these out.
Joshua 3 to 4, Israel crosses

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the Jordan River into the
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You know, it wasn't, it's not
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That's more of deliverance into
the Jordan is like this entrance

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into inheritance, obedience,
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Really, really big deal.
We think Elijah and Elijah, you

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were mentioning, we read in
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the Jordan before being taken
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Elijah crosses it again, marking
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Yeah, he puts the he like slaps
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parts.
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Exactly right.
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kings, not just a few chapters
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What's his deal?
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He he go, he heals his leprosy.
I my my sister did like a speech

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on Naman.
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would like repeat it like
practicing it for like her

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competition or whatever.
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he had to watch seven times in
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cleansing.
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at the end with new resolutions
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this is good.
It's like good to pick these

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ordinary things.
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the New Testament.
John the Baptist, you know,

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repents for the Kingdom of God
is is near where we have this

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Jordan River people being
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We see Jesus baptized in the
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father declares pleasure in the
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He's identifying with us.
So we see all these kind of like

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pivot points all around the
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something.
That is that is that is very

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interesting.
And so for you, yeah, pivot

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point because of, you know,
having having difficulties

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getting pregnant and now boom,
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It's like this new, new stage of
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And as I was thinking about New
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you have to have New Year's
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reset.
It's built into culture if it's

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natural moment where you can
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habits, you know, jump into some
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So I have to pause real quick
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last one on names, basically on
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Yeah.
Your youngest son.

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Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
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next oldest son.
So we got to do one on Jayden

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and Jackson too, I guess
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That's exactly right.
I love it.

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Yeah, we got.
We'll keep working our way,

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working our way up.
I'll tell you, there is a Jayden

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in the Bible.
You got to look hard for it, but

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it's spelled differently.
But you got it there, Jackson.

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Not so much.
I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't think so.
So we might have to improvise a

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little bit there, but I love it.
And so transitioning the New

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Year's and I like this kind of
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really at least nowadays, it
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times, but it's really not an
impressive river.

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It's like small, it's muddy,
it's gross.

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Well, you, I mean, you get kind
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he's like, that's right.
We got better water than than

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this over there.
And he's like, I'm not doing

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this and.
I love that picture because it's

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like, why would I do this?
Like simple, ordinary, It's

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like, it's not miraculous.
It's not like this water

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everyone flocks to to be healed.
So I think that that is good.

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And I think that gets into maybe
some of the people might tell

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like the psychology of what
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successful or not successful.
Everyone I think is looking for

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this quick fix.
I'm gonna like change my life.

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I'm gonna have this like
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My life's gonna be like 100
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And maybe it will.
But it's these everyday habits

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that are gonna get you there
where sometimes what I found too

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is like, rather than me saying
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it's like, I should just find
workouts that I enjoy and maybe

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eventually I'll get or it's
like, I don't know, it's like

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you're, you're getting there
that that's important to find

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something that works for you in
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Yes, yeah, that's what I'm
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So what I hear you saying is set
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a destination goal, but if you
do with, say with the process,

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you're likely to end up at the
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I, I think that's exactly right.
Find something you enjoy and

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it's better to be like, like
even thinking about for Jayden,

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it's probably better to say,
hey, let's play an hour of

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soccer a week versus like you're
going to juggle 25 times.

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Or it's like, it's like, just
put in the time and I bet some

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of that will come and it's more
enjoyable and it's doable.

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You don't feel like you're
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I don't know, You kind of land
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So and I want to kind of talk
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sanctification because
sanctification is on one hand it

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is miraculous, but it ain't a
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It's a slow, methodical, drawn
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Process.
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Let's look at some maybe if
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president, like, why should we?
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Not that you have to do New
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this progression in your life,
right?

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If we're talking sanctification,
what what are some key

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scriptures that you would think
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For sanctification.
For sanctification, yeah.

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Yeah, I think of what is it,
First Corinthians 10?

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I think it's 13.
Oh yeah.

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I think 31 is.
Whatever you're that is 30.

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One, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And 13 is no segmentation is

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taking you, but what's the
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And with it, Lord, provide a way
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So that I think that was one
that was drilled into our heads

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when we were younger, like, hey,
you're going to fit face

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temptation.
Everyone's face that same

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temptation, or at least some
version of it.

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Yeah.
You're not unique.

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You can you you you can
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Did you do Awana?
We.

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That wasn't Awana verse like
that's when I memorize every

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year that I.
Yeah, anyway.

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Yeah, so the wanna hit our
church.

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Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, yeah.

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I remember it's like you hit the
same beats over and over.

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And that was one I felt like I
was always like the wording was

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like it just stuck.
It just stuck with me.

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It was like, you know, always
worked out a little bit.

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Philippians 2 talks about
working out your own salvation.

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It's also important to know it's
God who works in you.

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It's kind of both of these.
To Will and to yeah.

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Yeah, so, so good.
First Thessalonians talks about.

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We talked about the will of God.
This is the will of God certain

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things for your sanctification
like that's going to happen,

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which is called the walk and
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And so it is this like steady
plotting and crossing and step

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by step.
It's not necessarily a dramatic

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we got can work miraculously and
does work miraculously in that

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instantaneous way, but I do
think we overlook the ordinary

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everyday things.
We've both been reading this

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book and Michael Horton, your
Sunday school talked about Mary

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and Joseph were like faithful
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that prepped him for this
extraordinary moment.

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And I think a lot of, you know,
everyone says like Mary was

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amazing, like especially, you
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It's like, how can you even, you
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It's like she was a person, like
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Girl, right, Another scripture.
He was 12, you know, talk about

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keeping our eyes on Jesus,
author and perfector of faith,

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who for the joy of the Lord set
for him.

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You know, he was obedient and
then he's like, who of you have

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resisted the point of shedding
blood or even death to to be,

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you know, to stay away from sin?
So this looks like a big

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encouragement, like, whoa, OK.
Now that that's good. 2nd

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Corinthians 3 Tim talked about
this as being his favorite

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verse, being transformed from 1°
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And if I'm thinking in this
ordinary framework, I work with

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a lot of people from time to
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Knee replacements, terrible.
It's great.

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Everyone's knee hurts.
We get the knee replacement,

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it's going to hurt for like a
year.

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It's like, terrible.
You thought it hurt before you

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got your knee replaced.
Just get ready.

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It, it's one of the only times I
work with someone where for most

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people, I totally, it's like not
uncommon for them to like cry

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during therapy 'cause we're like
cranking on that knee pain and

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torture baby.
That's PT and more of this one

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right now.
And it's like you are fighting

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when I see this from 1° of
you're fighting for every degree

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of flexion, like you get to 90°,
it's good.

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You want to get to 110.
Oh, I'm getting close.

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And it's like they're everyone's
like, oh, everyone's surgeon is

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like, oh, at six weeks, are you
at this degrees?

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And so 1° is not very much, you
know, you'll get 100 and 83160°.

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You know, just being transformed
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And and so I think it is it's
like we think about acts of God.

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It's like hurricanes, you know,
it's like these big things, but

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it's like man, God acts in these
little ordinary ways and we

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don't like that a lot of times,
you know, it's.

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Like getting a budget and
managing versus winning the

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lottery.
Yes, no, that's good.

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It's like man winning the
lottery.

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Wouldn't that be the best?
Yeah, I still might buy the

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lottery ticket area on them.
Right.

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No, it's, it's, it's very true.
And it's like, man, how can we

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get in this mindset to just, you
know, do do these little things?

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And so we can talk a little bit
of this goal versus process.

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Both, both are important.
Like you don't want to totally

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say the goal is not important
because what in in Christianity,

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you know what, what are we
striving towards?

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00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,600
Christ likeness.
Saints of Christ, Saints of

436
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,400
Christ likeness.
That that that's right.

437
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,760
Exactly right.
Yeah.

438
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,880
Mission of CBC to get there
looks, I think a lot of

439
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,200
different, different ways.
What do you say?

440
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,120
Among all nations.
Yeah, don't you wish to finish

441
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,720
the phrase?
This daily obedience, this

442
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,920
faithfulness in the small
things?

443
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,560
I like your Sunday school.
How, you know, you were you were

444
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,840
framing it all back to these,
you know, little small decisions

445
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,480
and you know, maybe one day that
that primes you up.

446
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,760
It's like, man, if you set your
budget, you're good with your

447
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,520
money, one day you can, you
know, be in a position to bless

448
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,600
someone, maybe major significant
or whatever it might be.

449
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,920
Or you can, you know, be in this
position, but you ain't going to

450
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,440
be in that position if you're
not, you know, taking these

451
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,240
steps every day.
And Paul, maybe you can look,

452
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,880
you got you're good.
Philippians, let's read Chapter

453
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,240
3.
I.

454
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,120
Didn't even know this. 312
through 14.

455
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:09,440
This is from our open there from
our previous podcast.

456
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, alright.
Not that I have already obtained

457
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:18,040
it or have already become
perfect, but I press on so that

458
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,240
I may lay hold of that for which
also I was laid hold of by

459
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,320
Christ Jesus.
Brethren, I did not regard

460
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,560
myself as having laid hold of it
yet.

461
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,560
But one thing I do Forgetting
what lies behind and reaching

462
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,640
forward to what lies ahead, I
pressed on toward the goal for

463
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,200
the prize of the upward call of
God in Christ Jesus.

464
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,760
I like that he's talking about
the trajectory.

465
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,640
He, he even would say, hey, not
that not that I've like

466
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,480
accomplices and I'm up there
yet, but pursuing that right

467
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,880
direction very, you know,
ferocious, like he's headed

468
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,440
there hard.
He's putting a lot of emphasis

469
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,280
there.
And, and I think that I think

470
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,920
that's good.
And, you know, goal setting, I

471
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
think can be tough.
And then different things work

472
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,360
for different people.
You know, it's great.

473
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,400
You know, one person might say,
I'll read the Bible every day.

474
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480
I think it's a great goal.
That's a good goal to do.

475
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,000
Another person might say, Hey,
I'm going to build a daily

476
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,880
rhythm of scripture.
Maybe they'll say, hey, I'll

477
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,960
listen to my audio Bible 10
minutes a day.

478
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720
That might work better than I'd
have to get in three chapters.

479
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,880
Because sometimes you run into
one of the Psalms that you're

480
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,560
going to take longer and you're
like, oh, I can't.

481
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,640
I don't know these kind of
things where?

482
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,200
Maybe 45 minutes a day.
Maybe, maybe, maybe that's it.

483
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,760
We were talking Bible reading.
Plans and I think I left that at

484
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,800
Jonathan's house.
I I took mine home because I

485
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,120
care about Stephen Brinson, and
when he gives me something, I

486
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,000
treasure it.
I don't just like, I'm just

487
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,360
kidding.
You want it for Jonathan's

488
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:47,120
edification, right?
Yeah, I was like, Jonathan, they

489
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,200
need this more than I do.
And so I'm gonna give.

490
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,360
It's better to be to be to give
them than to receive.

491
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,000
But but, but it's good.
We're talking.

492
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920
That's right.
We were talking about this Bible

493
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,600
plan that we're trying to set a
motion to encourage the church.

494
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,480
Stephen Brinson handed this
point.

495
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,880
He's like, hey, this is great.
It's in one hand ambitious.

496
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,320
It's reading the Bible 120 days.
He did it last year.

497
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,400
It's great.
It's all mapped out.

498
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,960
I like you've got the check
boxes.

499
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,880
You can like check it off.
I think for some people that's

500
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,520
great.
For some people, that could be

501
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,200
tough for some and and Stephen
Brinson is very persuasive where

502
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,400
he's like 45 minutes, like just
don't watch that TV show.

503
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,880
Like it kind of makes sense,
right?

504
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Like like it's definitely dual
we.

505
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,680
Got 24 hours?
Let's use 3/4 of one of them to

506
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,120
read the Bible.
That's really not asking a whole

507
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,720
lot.
So anyway, you know, there's,

508
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,280
there's different, different
things you can do and, and

509
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,480
probably on one level, most of
us don't operate to Max or near

510
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,160
maximum capacity anyway, right?
Here's 1, you know, and I think

511
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600
you said a vague goal.
You ain't going to get anywhere.

512
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,960
Like my goal for this year is
going to be to stop sitting.

513
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,200
Maybe you want to like put some
specifics in there, like there's

514
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,600
specifics.
I don't know, these kind of

515
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,760
things, these are good little
steps to, to, to get there,

516
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,120
build, build these habits.
So anyway, hope and.

517
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:11,520
It could even be think about
stop sitting like maybe you're

518
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,000
like, I want to stop being in
the situations.

519
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,680
That's a great.
That I find myself sitting in

520
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:25,520
more, more often, like if you
get particularly irritable when

521
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,200
you've been intermittent fasting
all day and you come home, maybe

522
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840
grabs, you know, maybe pack
something small.

523
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
So like right before you go
home, you can be like have a

524
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,400
little bit of that sugar rush or
something, something like that.

525
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,640
Feel like that was oddly
targeted towards me.

526
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,680
No, I'm just kidding that that
just cuts me a lot.

527
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040
That's when I get.
That is when I get it's like,

528
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,120
man, if I can just get over get
over like 45 minutes of just

529
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,920
feeling like irritable sometimes
it's like you get past that

530
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,400
wave, you're like, I feel great,
you know what I mean?

531
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920
But man, yeah, it can be can be
tough, but that that's good.

532
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,880
We are.
We'll hopefully share it with

533
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,760
everyone We're our trying to
recommend or at least provide an

534
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Ave. for a Bible reading program
if you like.

535
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Don't a lot of people have
theirs.

536
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,080
They love it.
They know what they're doing.

537
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,360
A lot of people.
I've done mine so many, so many

538
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,960
Times Now that I'm like, I'm
looking for something different.

539
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,960
So I'm I'm probably gonna adopt
this, but I've done the the

540
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,240
dwell chronological.
Oh yeah.

541
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,080
Probably at 5 or 6 times.
And so I'm like, I I need

542
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,120
something, something a little
different just to.

543
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,680
Yeah, keep it fresh so we we can
share this with you.

544
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,320
I think where we're going to
land is on Pastor Joel really

545
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,800
was wanting this too.
It's in one way it's similar to

546
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,400
what Steven was proposing in the
fact that you're drawing from

547
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,480
different parts of Scripture.
It's by the navigators do like,

548
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520
you know, it's like you, you,
you do a reading in Genesis, one

549
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,120
in Matthew, one in Acts, one in
Psalms, and it's like maybe a

550
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,920
chapter or a portion of a
chapter and you're kind of in a

551
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,880
different place.
It's probably just a scaled down

552
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280
version of something very
similar to what?

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,200
And then Steven was mentioning
he liked it because you're kind

554
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
of like seeing these connections
in the Bible.

555
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Oh, you've read this about
Abraham and you're in Roman.

556
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,440
It's like you're kind of like
seeing how these things you're

557
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,680
reading about Jesus.
Yeah.

558
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880
And the the Psalms and you kind
of see these things together.

559
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,640
You also might get a break from
like OK I've got to do 1 chapter

560
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,840
in Leviticus, maybe half a
chapter in Leviticus.

561
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,040
That's.
Right.

562
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,080
And then and then you get to do
some psalms or something 'cause

563
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080
I know that some, some, some are
a little bit tougher to get

564
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,520
through than others.
Totally agree.

565
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,200
And I'll find myself, I might
say like, oh man, I'm like on a

566
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,760
roll and I'll this might be
cheating.

567
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,720
I don't think it's cheating, but
I'll be like, man, I'm really

568
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,160
loving Ezra right now.
I'll read 5 chapters in a row

569
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560
and I'm kind of like I can be
like good for my weekend as I

570
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,680
don't know, I can kind of, I can
kind of like categorize it by a

571
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080
week and pick and choose and
I'll get there eventually.

572
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,120
If there's something and it like
you're saying, if it's something

573
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,320
that's a little bit tougher
sledding, I can have these

574
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,080
brakes built in where it's not
like 'cause that is discouraging

575
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,400
where you're like, how much
longer do I have in this book?

576
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,280
If it's like, you know, hitting
a tough, tough part.

577
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520
So hopefully you will come
alongside us.

578
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,320
I'm trying to set up like it's
easy and you version, you know,

579
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,720
to set up.
You should check this out, see

580
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120
if it worked.
I set up like a CBC.

581
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,400
Sure, you can set up your own
order.

582
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,240
Yeah, I, I I set up our church
at our sermon time so people can

583
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,960
find us.
So maybe you should see if you

584
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,440
can find us.
I put it in this e-mail I sent

585
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,600
to you all that no one responded
to besides Pastor.

586
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,760
It's great.
That's fine.

587
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,440
I said I'm off.
For it, no.

588
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,840
I replaced it all for it.
Yeah.

589
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,840
So did you actually did?
You did.

590
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Is the plan that you had already
in your?

591
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,600
Version it is.
It's because it's the

592
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
navigators.
It's like there, it's like, can

593
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,200
you?
I'm looking for a place where I

594
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440
can customize one that I can
listen to because I I want a

595
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,720
chronological one but I want to
do it.

596
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,400
Differently to your own.
That's what.

597
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
You should work on that should
be your New Year's resolution

598
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,440
for this year so we all can
listen to it.

599
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,320
In the next year, yeah.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

600
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Like.
So 'cause it would be simple to

601
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440
just like put it into like some
type of Excel.

602
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Yeah.
And then just.

603
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Upload it and like OK there's my
plan.

604
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,200
No, do that.
Yeah, I'm telling you, we'll

605
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,400
check.
We'll check in the next year and

606
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,800
see if you did that.
That'll be, that'll be good.

607
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600
And then we'll be like good.
Yeah, yeah, it'll be, we'll get

608
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,720
the real, the good chronological
version, you know, but great.

609
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Any anything else you can think
of on New Year's?

610
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560
You want to read your closing
line here.

611
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,200
No, this is for your matic.
I love it.

612
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,120
Yeah.
The same God who part of the

613
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Jordan still meets his people in
ordinary waters and carries them

614
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320
forward one faithful step at a
time.

615
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880
That's great.
It's good.

616
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Don't neglect these ordinary
means.

617
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,040
It is extraordinary.
God works in amazing ways over

618
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,160
this faithfulness.
So New Year's resolution, get

619
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120
some down, share them with us.
We'll we'll share some info on

620
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,360
our Bible reading plan, but
that's our take.

621
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,160
Thanks for listening to Take
Two.

622
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,520
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623
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,240
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