Giving Under Grace

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Schedules are tough.
They can't be.

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You know where this is going.
I got a good good idea.

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One of the my greatest joys in
life is being on this take two

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podcast chat we had and it's
exactly for for gems like this.

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We were trying to plan a time to
schedule recording and Michael's

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like, hey, this day, this time
sounds great.

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And Jill's like, no, it doesn't.
You got your daughter's like

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senior thing.
So funny it's great.

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I I just was dying laughing
instantly.

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Hey, we have a skylight.
I've I've seen this advertised

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these look really cool.
Yeah, and and it is if you use

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them, and I guess I am just as
guilty as Jill and Lydia for not

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putting these events in there.
But to my defense, 'cause we did

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get an e-mail with all these
events and probably a month ago,

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Jill's like Michael, you have to
take off work this day.

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It's the award ceremony in the
morning, it's lunch, Then we

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have a little break and then
it's a senior parade and then

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it's senior sunset.
Like you, you can't do anything

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on that day.
And of course, that day is

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today, right now, right now,
because it only gets worse from

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here because tomorrow night's
Wednesday night it is.

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And so we're going to be at
church and we have recorded

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after church.
We could do that Thursday.

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I I think I I should probably
know this.

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Hey Jill, I know you're behind
on podcasts, but let us know.

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Thursday or Friday, but I think.
It's Thursday.

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We'll leave it open.
Yeah.

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The in laws are coming in late.
Oh, nice.

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Oh yeah, yeah, that's before
graduation.

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And then so then they're gonna
be here Friday.

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Yeah, yeah, they will be here
Thursday.

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I know that cause meal plan.
I am doing I think smash burgers

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Thursday.
Either that or we're going to

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Codfather like we're trying to
figure out which.

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We'll do the one of those
Thursday, one of those Friday.

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When's graduation?
Saturday.

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Wow, this Saturday.
This Saturday.

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Wow.
Yeah.

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Man, that's soon.
It is soon.

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Lady is ready.
I mean, I think.

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Ready or not, she.
Doesn't know where she's going

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to college yet.
So that's details.

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Everything says she's going to
Anderson, but we don't.

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Know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But she got to put in something,
so she's just like.

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I'm going to like they talk
about that like and she will be

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going to Anderson for nursing or
whatever.

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Very cool.
Yeah, schedules are tough.

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Schedules are tough.
Yeah, White.

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Wives are good at helping
schedule things because it

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wouldn't be the first time that
I say something.

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Lane's like, actually, we have
this, this and this.

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I can't tell you how many times
people ask me, what are you

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doing this weekend?
I'm like, nothing.

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And then Lane's like, we are
doing stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I'm like OK, this is good.

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Yeah, I think it has to go do
with some of how we're made.

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Because, you know, there's this
whole series about men, like,

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being like, waffles, have you
seen this?

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And ladies being like spaghetti,
like everything's twisted and

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tied together, like in their
mind, like everything connects

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like, and there's never a place
of like where they are just

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compartment.
But you know, guys typically are

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more compartmentalized.
And, you know, we have this

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nothing box that we like to go
to.

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We're just not thinking about
anything.

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Like we're just sitting down.
Maybe we're enjoying the game

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and nothing else is going on in
the mind.

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But yeah.
What we should do, and I'm

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saying this because Jill is
behind on podcast, this will

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teach her a lesson.
We should like fabricate a time

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where you know, you know, you're
busy and just in the chat be

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like, hey, this time's great.
Like like just a really.

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And if Jill catches up before we
do that, good on her.

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We won't do it.
So that's that's.

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We'll see what happens.
Yeah, Yeah.

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That's.
Good.

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Well we are talking about giving
this is like parts two of our is

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it part?
Well, no, it's actually in our

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financial it's much.
Bigger than bigger than that in

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our financial so we talked about
pro what Proverbs had to say.

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That's right.
So if we do that in one or two,

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we did that in one, right?
I.

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Think we did it in one shot?
No, Yeah, maybe one shot, yeah.

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Yeah.
And then we did some practical

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stuff, which kind of like is an
abstraction of all the stuff you

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see from Proverbs in a cross.
Just some practical things.

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We did that in two parts, right?
That's right.

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That's right.
And then we did an Old

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Testament.
You know what?

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What did you tithe and offer in
the Old Testament?

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So now we're looking at how does
that compare to New Testament?

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And a future episode will be, I
think Pastor Joel makes too

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much.
Find out on our podcast.

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That's right.
How much should how much?

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How much should a pastor make?
Yeah, we're going to give you

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the number.
Exactly adjusted for inflation.

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Yeah, yeah.
And and we'll also give you like

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a locality multiplier.
So you just take this base

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amount, find your locality and
multiply it.

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And that's how much your pastor
should be making.

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Not not a dime more.
Yeah, you could, you could take

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that.
That's that's great.

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So giving in the New Testament,
this might be this is good.

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I like, I like that.
Maybe it should be scheduled?

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Maybe it should be scheduled.
I love it.

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Let's go ahead and take it to
the next level from the hearts

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of the low country in South
Carolina.

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It's the Take Two podcast where
we take theology to the next

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level.
All right, so in our Old

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Testament podcast, we talked
about, you know, their giving

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and just recall, they gave 10%
three different times.

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Two of those 10 percents was
every year except for the 7th

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year.
That's that's a little bit

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unclear to me still.
I I might want to do a deep dive

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on that.
Yeah.

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Let's do a deep dive.
New podcast, 7th year.

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And then there was another 10%
that they gave every three

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years.
And so depending on how those

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work out, it's somewhere around
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had or what they brought in they
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And that was a tithe, 'cause it
was tenth thing, but three

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different times.
Yeah, so we, we kind of talked

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not not to unlike our tax
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And then we maybe made the
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in here, they're gonna tax for
their household and stuff like

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that.
And so at least we went through

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the sacrifices too, trying to
get at least an idea of what

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this looks like.
We say tithe all the time.

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What did it really mean?
So I'm excited to look to the

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New Testament, you know, tithes
and offerings.

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Where do we see this connection
or lack of connection?

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I'm, I'm really excited for
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Yeah, because, oh, I guess we
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We should have, have we?
Oh, yeah, we did.

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We did.
We did.

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We.
So I was about to say, let's

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take it a different.
We are in the process right now

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of taking it to the next level.
I know, yeah.

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That's right.
That's right.

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So maybe when you grow up, you
you grew up.

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I know what when in my church,
we always heard, you know, tie's

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an offering.
Yeah.

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Yeah, it's an offering.
Same thing.

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Those just go together.
Let's, you know, give our that

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now we're going to take our ties
and offerings, whatever.

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That's just classic.
Someone's going to pray for

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offering.
They're probably going to say

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tie's an offering.
It's going to happen.

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And I say even you know, I'm
leading signal, you know, we're

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gonna, you know, if the men will
come forward for the offering

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and and I should be saying a
different word.

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I love it.
Next time you say I'm just gonna

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walk out of the I'll be I can't
just tear.

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Your hands up, stand up and walk
out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause I
probably will say it again.

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Out of habit?
Yeah, that's good.

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All right, so I thought maybe we
would look at these terms.

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The tithe Greek is ducate I.
Think.

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And it literally, just like in
the old test, means 1/10.

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I see that deca kind of rue.
I can see this.

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Yeah, this is good.
And we really only see it a

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couple times.
Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for

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legalistically tithing.
You know, dill, mint and cumin,

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but abandoning the greater
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And he doesn't say you shouldn't
be doing that, he says.

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You should, yeah, that's.
Right.

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Yeah.
In addition to that, you should

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have been doing these other.
Things he's like, they're trying

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to keep the laws perfect.
He's kind of like, well,

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actually here you go.
And then in Hebrew 7, the tide

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that's used theologically to
link Melchizedek in Christ.

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And so we see that from the, you
know, Genesis story of the

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tithing there.
And then the only other place we

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see the tithe is all the places
that Paul commands New Testament

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believers to, to give 10%
everywhere.

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Everywhere that's it's so funny
that because that word.

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Is absolutely.
Yeah, don't, don't, don't

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literally because I think that
when people talk about giving

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and maybe there's good president
because it revolves around this

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word tide, it's like it always
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That's like where that's like,
are you a good, good giver or

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not a good giver?
Where are you on this 10%, you

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know, spectrum?
Yeah, that, that's good.

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So there are really no other
mentions of the word tithe in

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the New Testament.
And we don't we're not told to

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give 10%.
There's a lot of giving in

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Paul's letters.
He talks about all these

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churches giving left and right.
He's trying to raise funds, but

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he never, he never drills down
and says, hey, if you're, you

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know, passing the test, you're
given this amount and you would

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think that would come up because
it's like all over the place.

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And so I think that's
instructive.

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The word tithe, the Greek
equivalent for tithe two or

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three times and never with a,
you know, command.

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This is what you're supposed to
give, OK?

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That's good.
And as we talked about last

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episode, the tithe is very
central to the Mosaic law tied

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to temple worship.
Levitical support on the new

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covenant, the priesthood
changed.

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We see that in Hebrew 7.
And so the giving model also

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changed because government's not
the same, because we really see

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the tithe was it was giving.
Well, it it was one of the same

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because they were a theocracy.
So their government was It's

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all.
Connected.

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Yeah, that's.
Right.

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It's all connected.
So it was kind of like their

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governmental tax plus their
giving towards God altogether.

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Yeah, and and Jesus, when he's
talking about tithing, it is

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it's pre cross.
He didn't even get something in

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while you know, he wasn't
talking to the thief on the

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cross.
I'm like, hey, they leave me to

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paradise.
But you know we.

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Yeah, that's good.
That's good.

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Oh, so the the other word tithes
and offerings break it down.

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I'm, I'm, I'm 'cause I know for
a fact I don't know how many

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times it's used off the top of
my head, but you read offering

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more often for sure, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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And so I started off looking at
this Greek word prosphora, and

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there's another word that
sometimes gets translated

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offering doron.
And every time that I found this

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word phosphora, especially in a
particular way it was used, it

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was talking about Christ
offering himself on the cross,

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or priest offering up.
It was specific sacrifice.

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OK, Yeah.
Yeah.

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So it really had this idea of
this Old Testament offering that

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Jesus was that final fulfillment
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Now their Greek does have shades
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So you could OfferUp a gift to
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sued, you could try to give them
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solution.
So there are some other

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conjugations of that word.
But really if you most of the

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usages, especially outside of
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sacrifice and Christ being the
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I I I like that.
That's Doron, Acts 2417, good

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example of the Prospera.
Paul talks about bringing

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offerings to Jerusalem, the
Jerusalem church.

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You know, maybe there's a famine
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I need to bring, we're raising
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We're going to try to support
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Ephesians 5 It's this is
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Christ is said to be a fragrant
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So you kind of I like kind of
capturing these different,

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different meanings here.
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offerings include both material
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acts of love, really focuses in
on the Old Testament sacrificial

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connotations that are now
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And we, you know, have that kind
of spiritualized in our

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believers.
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That that makes sense for Paul.
He's going to grab on to those

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Old Testament words to help, you
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He can think about these things,
especially if Romans twelve 1%

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revise a living sacrifice.
You know, he's trying to conjure

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up maybe some.
So what that would?

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Yeah, but not necessarily
connected with your regular

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giving to.
Right, right.

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More like, like you're saying
really like when they would

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think sacrifice, you know,
you're thinking, oh, wow, that's

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that's my life as a spiritual
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Wow.
Alright, so then the term that

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probably you should be using
when I say hey hey, this is our

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time of giving instead of your
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Can you just next time just just
talk in Greek like that?

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Would just help me understand it
better when you're.

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When you're talking about, yes,
this is our time of didomi or

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charizomi or meta didomi, Yeah.
So those are some of the Greek

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terms that are translated for
giving.

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And so didomi means just to give
in general meta, didomy you meta

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beyond which would mean to like
to share or just distribute

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something.
Those have the basically the

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same root word.
And the kuridzomy means to give

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freely or graciously.
You might see karis in there.

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You see that in there, it's AZ,
but you know it has that root

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word for karis in there.
So to kind of give freely like

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you would think graciously.
I like this.

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So this is this is.
We see this frequently in the

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New Testament we read in 2nd
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Paul is really talking about
giving you know, it's it's like

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it's one of the probably classic
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If someone's going to preach on
you, you.

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Could probably preach 5 or 6
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Yeah, out of yeah.
It's out of those two chapters,

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yeah.
Enough texts.

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Yeah, I've heard 5 or 6 sermons
out of those two chapters, Yeah.

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We read there the Macedonians
that they're giving and a lot of

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their giving is, you know, out
of their poverty, like they're

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they're cheerfully giving.
And it's like, it's not like

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they have all this excess to
give.

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Yeah, and they're asking, you
know, they're begging to be.

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Yeah, they want to give.
Yeah, that's right.

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They're like that, that that's
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That's a good point.
Luke 6 We see this phrase, you

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know, giving, and it will be
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Same words there I suppose.
We all should be communist next

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to the classic text early.
Christian.

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The key difference is once
forced and once freely given.

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It's true.
That's true.

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Yeah.
Early Christians, they help

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possessions in common and and
they gave you know, to those

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those in need.
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one through 2, setting aside
money weekly and keeping with

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one's income.
So this regular proportionate

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giving out of what what you've
been given.

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That's good.
That kind of gives us a lay of

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the land.
Different words, tithes,

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offerings giving different
shades of meaning, giving

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drastically different than you
know, tight this word tithe, you

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know.
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So I have a chart in here, you
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there was a commanded amount
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But multiple times New
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We're not given an amount that
means maybe you should be giving

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more than 10%.
Yeah, it's not like you're

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necessarily off the hook, you
know what I mean?

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Yeah, giving's commanded, but
no, yeah, no specified amount.

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That's good.
The system, you know, in the Old

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Testament, it was like temple
based, it was national, there's

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a theocracy, New Testament, it's
church based, spirit led and

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it's out of generosity.
So that and, and then even like

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in that same idea, who's getting
this type, you know, because it

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was theocratic national temple
based, you know, Levites

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priests.
And then they had a good system

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where, you know, that's how
they, they managed their welfare

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essentially the poor, they would
look out for the poor through

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through some of this as well.
Yeah, and and another way the

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poor were taken care of through
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So you've had to leave the
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Right, that's right.
So you.

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Could you could go through and
reap the first time, but you

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couldn't go back and like, oh,
we missed this, this and this.

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You had to leave certain
sections where the poor people

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could go work for their their
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That that that's that's a good

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point in the New Testament.
You know, you get to your local

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church, you get to those
spreading the gospel

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missionaries across the globe.
You should get to the poor as

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well.
That that that is there.

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And then, you know, you'll look
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and and you can look to to help
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Yeah.
And and with that change in the

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system and who's getting it, and
your motivation changes because

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it's not out of obedience to the
law now like it would have been

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in the Old Testament.
But it's this cheerful giving,

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you know, we talked about
before, you should have to laugh

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if you're going to give, you
know, some of those types of

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things.
But but it's this willingness

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and its response to grace and
wanting to give out of your

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abundance.
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And when we see this term
sacrifice, you know, Old

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Testament, we're bringing that
bull, that ram, you know, we're

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bringing grain, we're bringing
our first fruits.

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Some wine.
It's yeah.

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Bring that wine.
I know that's yeah.

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And in the New Testament, we
mentioned Romans 12/1, you know,

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present yourself Olympic
sacrifice.

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That's pretty strong language
when you think about that.

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Also time, money, hospitality.
There's a variety of ways we

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probably should be giving.
All right, so there are some key

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passages in the New Testament
about giving.

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This is Jesus is talking
specifically to the Pharisees

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here and they are under the old
system, but I think he's

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addressing their heart, which
would translate naturally into

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even into the New Testament, but
New Testament system.

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But it should be done in secret.
It's not for show.

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You know, this isn't for your
glory.

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And God rewards your true
private generosity that you, you

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know, give out of what you can.
So those are there.

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That's great.
In Matthew Six, you probably

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heard these these verses often
it says be careful not to

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practice your righteousness in
front of others like Michael was

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saying to be seen by them.
If you do, you'll have no reward

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from your Father in heaven.
So when you give to the needy,

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don't announce it with Trump is
as the hypocrites do in the

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synagogues and on the streets to
be honored by others.

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Truly I tell you they have
received their reward in full.

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When you give to the needy,
don't let your left hand know

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what your right hand is doing so
that you're giving may be in

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secret.
Then your Father, who sees what

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is done in secret, will reward
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That's great.
All right, so second main, you

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know, some key passages.
We already mentioned 2nd

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Corinthians 8 and 9.
You're going.

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To go ahead and read those two
chapters, yeah.

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Just go ahead and read above
them.

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No, you, you, the listeners
should probably, if you're

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really interested in this, go
give those a read.

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Paul is going to argue several
different ways about giving,

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trying to motivate the
Corinthians to take part in this

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sacrifice.
Part of that is the Macedonians,

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where I mentioned they gave
beyond their means.

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They gave out of their poverty.
They were cheerful givers. 8-9

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Christ sacrifice is the ultimate
example.

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Of giving need, motivation.
That's where you should look.

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9/6 through seven.
God loves a cheerful giver, so

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this is not being given
grudgingly, but you know, it's

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out of your desire to give back.
910 through 11, God provides the

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seed for the sowing in giving
Thanksgiving to God.

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So what we have is all gods.
We talked about that in, you

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know, our first episode of The
Practical.

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Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.

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And and so to, to be generous
with that, it's, you know, it's

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easy to do, should be easy to
do.

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Should be easier said than done.
Next passage, Acts 2.

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We did talk about this.
I'm just going to read the end

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of of it so we can see, you know
this communism in action.

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All the believers were together
and had everything in common.

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They sold property and
possessions to give to anyone

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who had need.
Everyone where I've lost my

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place here, everyone every day
they continue together in temple

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courts, blah blah blah.
I think I hit the main section,

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but you made the point.
This is voluntary.

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It's not like you have to do
this.

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Some people probably felt like
they had to do this, and so they

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lied about how much money they
made and, you know, were giving

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and were killed by the Holy
Spirit.

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Well, yeah, I was going to
mention that because Ananias and

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Sapphira, when Peter's talking
to them, he's he says, wasn't it

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yours before you sold it?
And it was the money was yours

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after it.
You didn't have to give it all.

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You could have done with it what
you wanted to do.

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But you, you didn't just lie to
us.

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You lied to the Holy Spirit by
acting like you gave it all.

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So Peter is saying, you know,
this isn't forced.

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This is this is, you know, you
had the ability to retain some

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of this, but just don't put on
airs like you're you're giving

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it all.
Yeah, that that that is a recipe

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for disaster.
We see in Acts 4 very common

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till we read in Acts 2 that, you
know, they brought money, they

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sold houses, whatever they put
at the apostles feet and it was

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distributed to those who had a
need.

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And I think that that's a good
example, you know, bring bring

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money, try to help those in
need.

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But you know, it's on on
generosity.

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It's voluntary.
It's not like you thank you for

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giving this because you had to.
Right.

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Or hey, dude has this property,
it's ours now.

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You know, ownership still
exists.

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Yeah, Yeah.
And then first Timothy 617 to 19

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talks about the rich.
You should be generous.

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You should be ready right here.
We're at the end of this letter

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to Timothy.
And that there is this

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correlation between what you
give and what you're storing up

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as eternal treasure.
That's great.

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Rich are to be generous.
Ready to share.

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So if God's given you a lot in
in America, we've been given a

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lot.
We have a lot of gozentas.

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We've got a lot of gozaltas, you
know, so maybe if we can look at

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those Gozaltas and maybe bring
those down, we can we can be a

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little more generous.
That's, that's exactly right.

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Paul talks about, you know, he,
he kind of makes this argument

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that if you're rich in this
present world, don't be

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arrogant, don't put your hope in
this wealth because that's

453
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,920
uncertain.
You actually should hope in God

454
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,560
'cause he richly provides for
us.

455
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,440
And then he says be rich in good
deeds.

456
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,880
So it's kind of talking about
rich financially and then you

457
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960
should be rich in other way ways
too, because that that's really

458
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,680
how you lay it for yourselves.
A firm foundation and treasures

459
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,840
in heaven.
So summing all this up, giving

460
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,080
should be, you know, grace
driven.

461
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,400
It should be out of your
generosity.

462
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,920
It's not based on an obligation.
It's not based on a percentage.

463
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,600
You know, Joel shared.
I, I think it was this last

464
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,320
Sunday where they stood up at,
what was that guy's name,

465
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,680
Charles Stanley's.
Church, yeah, and like said the

466
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Creed.
And they said basically like

467
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
the.
Bible teaches it we tithing I

468
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,760
don't know what.
It was, yeah.

469
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,560
The Bible teaches tithing.
It says that we believe it.

470
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040
You know, we give them 10% or
something, but.

471
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,640
That's wild.
I've never.

472
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,440
To stand up and say that even if
it's true, like, that's wild.

473
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,400
I've also, you hear jokes about
people like and they pass the

474
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,320
plate three times.
Like I like.

475
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,800
What is that like?
Have you seen the video where

476
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,200
the guys like shut the doors?
Ushers, I'm not joking, shut the

477
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,680
doors.
We're going to raise $4000 right

478
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,160
here, right now and we're not
leaving until till it's raised.

479
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,560
It's crazy.
That is insane.

480
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,480
But I think that that's that's
great that it's grace driven and

481
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,400
so you're not under obligation.
But if you're not giving a lot,

482
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600
maybe your view of grace isn't
that great either, you know?

483
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,760
Yeah, yeah.
And giving is a natural fruit of

484
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,400
a transformed heart.
So if your heart is transformed,

485
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,840
you should want to give back.
You.

486
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,000
You've been given a lot.
You've you've gotten a lot, so

487
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,320
you want to give out of what
you've been given, so.

488
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Sweets #2 looking at the New
Testament, at theology of it,

489
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080
it's a Kingdom investment.
When you give, you're helping

490
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,080
the gospel go forth again.
It's keeping that eternal

491
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,320
perspective at, you know,
insight that you're building

492
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,280
treasure in heaven.
You might be using material

493
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,640
resources now, but it's not just
just for you.

494
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,120
You're you're steward and you're
managing.

495
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,520
You're looking to help what
really, really matters for

496
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,920
eternity.
Yeah, and I, I think this wasn't

497
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,080
out of my own personal pocket
giving, but there I have a good

498
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,000
story to illustrate this 'cause
there was a time when I was the

499
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Wednesday night, but it maybe
even been Sunday night at that

500
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,680
point in time.
Children's church, children's

501
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,920
ministry leaders, and we had
these verse towers.

502
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,200
Oh yeah.
And, you know, you could stand

503
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,400
up and say the Pledge of
Allegiance right now, probably.

504
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Hopefully, yeah.
But have you like, did you ever

505
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,520
like work to memorize it?
I don't know as AI mean as a kid

506
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,320
I guess I don't know I.
Mean you just said it over and

507
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,440
over so much.
So that was my idea.

508
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,360
Oh, I seriously, if you can
stand up and say the Pledge of

509
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,400
Allegiance, you should be able
to stand up and say some of

510
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,840
these key verses.
Yeah.

511
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760
And so that's what I did because
I didn't want to just have, like

512
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,720
this week, our memory verses.
And you move on.

513
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,120
And then you move on.
Then move on.

514
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,160
So what they did was that there
was these towers and you had to

515
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,560
like each week you'd start at,
you know, these foundational

516
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,400
verses and work your way up.
And so you would repeat all of

517
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,240
those.
So that I just wanted to burn

518
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,920
those those key verses into
those kids memory and we

519
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,840
rewarded them.
They would get so many, we

520
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,480
called it patch, patch clubs,
bucks pets club.

521
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920
And like every month we'd open
up the store nice.

522
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,640
And the store would say trading
the temporal for the eternal

523
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Wow, 'cause we were giving them,
you know, this temporal stuff

524
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,960
that they would be motivated to
get.

525
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,800
But really, in return, we're
getting, you know, this, these

526
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480
eternal verses and, you know,
burn into.

527
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,920
As a kid, those stores were
awesome.

528
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,200
Yeah, like those kind of things.
You're like, oh, I could buy a

529
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,680
hot wheel car or whatever it.
Was yeah, yeah, We had all kinds

530
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,200
of stuff from the.
What was that Express?

531
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,200
And there's that catalog that
has all those cheap.

532
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Oh yeah, Oriental.
Express.

533
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Classic, give me like 500

534
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,000
plastic things that'll break
instantly for 10 bucks, but it

535
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,880
works great.
I'm like, why?

536
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Like my kid will get one.
I'm like, this toy is nothing.

537
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Why is this like your prized
possession for the day?

538
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,560
And then this kind of I think
naturally flows from these from

539
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280
being grace driven as a Kingdom
of investment giving.

540
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,520
It's really a part of worship
that this is a great way,

541
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,080
something that you should be
thoughtful about, not just, you

542
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000
know, haphazardly.
I'll give this much.

543
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,840
You should you should really
give some thought to it.

544
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,760
Hebrews 13 verse 16 says don't
neglect to do good and share

545
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,560
what you have for such
sacrifices are pleasing to God

546
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,600
and in Philippians 4 Paul sees
the Philippians gift as a

547
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,600
fragrant, fragrant offering that
this is really an opportunity

548
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,640
for you to worship God in a in
another Ave.

549
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,480
That's good.
All right, so some questions you

550
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,600
may ask, you know, when you do
give, is it cheerfully or is it

551
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,560
reluctantly are are you, you
know, kind of begrudgingly

552
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320
giving it like you feel like you
have to or is it something like,

553
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,680
I'm glad to give this back and
you know, you're glad to support

554
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,400
the ministry that where you're
being fed?

555
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,240
Yeah, kind of along the same
lines.

556
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,880
Is this a truly an act of
worship?

557
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Are you worshipping guide
through it or is this just like

558
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,000
you have to do it, It's a duty,
you're same thing kind of

559
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,880
reluctant about maybe you'll do
it, but you're like, man, I just

560
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,160
it's 'cause I have to do it.
Yeah.

561
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,000
And so really, if someone's
following these principles, they

562
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560
they probably should just give
their whole check to the church

563
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,560
next time, right?
Yeah, if you really trust God,

564
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,320
just put a blank check in the
offer plate to see what happens.

565
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you do hear some, some

566
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,520
foolishness from church
leadership sometimes.

567
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,520
We're not saying, you know, you
need to, you know, put God to

568
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,080
the test here, but you should
be, you know, I think Paul says,

569
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,480
you know, you're saving up a
little bit all the time so that

570
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,920
you're not trying to give this
huge amount, but you are.

571
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,080
You're giving a little bit as
you go and you.

572
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,760
Know, maybe we can talk about
this a little bit.

573
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Don't want to get too off track,
but it's to me you can what like

574
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,360
a beautiful thing is automation.
I would be hesitant to like,

575
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,200
hey, I automated it.
Now I never think about giving

576
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,360
because then like, are you, you
know, how are you balancing that

577
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,000
worship part?
But if you automate at least a

578
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,640
subset of it, then you're not
going to miss a week when if you

579
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,920
don't, I think it's easy, like,
oh, I was out of town or I

580
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,560
missed that.
And so I think, you know, these

581
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,800
practical tools are helpful.
Maybe you don't want to totally

582
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,280
rely and maybe you have times in
your life where you're like,

583
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,120
hey, let me re evaluate.
We think of this.

584
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320
And then as opportunities arise
to give, maybe you're stirred to

585
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,440
give above and beyond that.
So part of me like, hates that

586
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600
because it's too automated.
But when I automate stuff I get

587
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,800
more.
You know what I mean?

588
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Yeah, yeah, that that is good.
So it kind of flows into this

589
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,080
idea of how does your giving
reflect your trust in God?

590
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840
Because you know, there there is
some trust there.

591
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,400
You're giving up some of what
you've earned, trusting that

592
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,680
your your means are going to be
needs are going to be met.

593
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,080
And and I think that that does
you're ultimately are trusting

594
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,520
God if you're putting that in
the plate.

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,120
And it's like, I don't know.
Yeah, you're you're also

596
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,840
trusting the church to use that.
Use that.

597
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Well, I think, you know, I think
that that that lot goes into

598
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040
that.
How do you think about giving?

599
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,960
What's the standard?
Is it a percent?

600
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560
Are you like fixated on, OK, I
made it to 12% or I'm at 10%?

601
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,120
Or is it more on this generosity
spectrum a little bit harder to

602
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,040
measure?
Yeah.

603
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,960
And you might have times in your
life where you can give more, in

604
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,240
times your life where you you
can't give as much.

605
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520
And that's a great point.
And so you look forward to a

606
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440
time when you know you can give
more, and you know, how can I

607
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,520
work to build to give more?
How do you figure out, you know,

608
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560
is my giving proportionate to
what I have been blessed?

609
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Like you were saying, maybe you
do have a lot to give, maybe you

610
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,520
don't.
Does it kind of at least is it

611
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,640
proportionate?
Maybe not giving up?

612
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Maybe you don't have a lot, you
know, and that that that makes

613
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920
more sense.
Lastly, are you storing up

614
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,840
treasures in heaven or you
clinging on to treasures on

615
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,280
earth?
Jesus says, you know, store up

616
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,120
treasures in heaven where you
give, that's where your heart is

617
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
going to go and it naturally
happens.

618
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760
So you can help direct your
heart by making a decision.

619
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,160
I'm going to start giving and
involving myself here.

620
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Your heart will naturally be
it's.

621
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Great.
It's like osmosis.

622
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,720
It just, it just, it just
happens like it just like it's

623
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,520
going to, it's going to follow.
So to close out with some

624
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,160
application or and a little bit
of review too, we think of this

625
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,320
New Testament model, you think
of grace, generosity and joy and

626
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,120
giving.
These are all good things to to

627
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360
kind of focus on.
Yeah, and tithing isn't the

628
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,480
mark, Tim, Tim, you might say,
you might decide 10% is a good,

629
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,520
good benchmark for you, but
maybe for some people, maybe it

630
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560
should be 5%.
For some people, maybe it should

631
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,640
be 25%.
You know, it, it it's not.

632
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,400
It's more about the attitude and
the thought, you know, process

633
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,080
behind that than it is about
meeting a a particular number

634
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,840
like it was in the Old
Testament.

635
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Now that that's really good,
just like Paul and 2nd

636
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120
Corinthians talks about, you
know, Jesus gave it all.

637
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720
I mean that that that should be
instructive at least a little

638
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,120
bit to us when we when it comes
to our giving and and what we

639
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520
should be doing, it should
reflect kind of at least that

640
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,840
heart attitude.
Yep, and we end on the verse

641
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,640
that everyone knows it's more
blessed to give than to receive.

642
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400
And I and I, I've really
struggled with this.

643
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,360
You know, I was younger during
Christmas time, but then as you

644
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,640
get older, you go, Oh yeah, it
is.

645
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,280
It is more blessed to give than
to receive.

646
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,440
You can, you know, give give
freely a gifts to your kids and

647
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000
then that's a lesser to the
greater.

648
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440
If we can do that, we should be
able to to do it for God as

649
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,120
well.
Yeah, that, that, that's great.

650
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400
And this, this verse is from
Acts 20.

651
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,200
This is like Paul's final words,
these Ephesian elders.

652
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,840
This is like one of the last
things he is saying as he's

653
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520
tearfully knowing he's probably
not going to see them again.

654
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,600
And that's like, what he leaves
them with that?

655
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,920
That's pretty, pretty amazing,
huh?

656
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,280
That's good.
So next time we're we're

657
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,400
addressing the elephant in the
room.

658
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,320
Yeah.
We're going to get the, you

659
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,920
know, get the pen and paper out
and let you know what, what

660
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400
salary, what salary is too low.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

661
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,720
I don't, I don't know what that
is yet.

662
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840
I haven't written those notes
yet, but we, but we will write

663
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,360
those and we'll, I'll come up
with the long math formula and

664
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,680
we'll figure out what that exact
number is.

665
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,560
I.
Love it.

666
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Well, thank you for hanging in
there.

667
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800
That's our take.
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668
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040
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669
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670
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