Paul in His Own Words 1 | The New Apostle

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Well, I, this is a shout out.
I meant to talk about this more

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at home groups, but your wife is
very worried about me.

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And I, I'm, I'm getting nervous
now.

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I'm 'cause I've wait, I'm
waiting too late to go to the

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store.
It's all gonna hit me at once

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and I won't know what to do.
But this has to do with

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pumpkins.
It's that time of year.

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It is pumpkin time.
Pumpkin time.

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She's very she's very wrapped
around pumpkins.

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In fact, pumpkin painting slash
carving got scheduled at my

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house without even me knowing
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Nice.
There's talk.

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It was supposed to happen last
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I was like, I don't know if we
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try.
And it didn't.

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And then it's like there maybe
tonight.

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And I'm like, well, I'm
recording, but no, no, no, no,

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no, no.
This is a good thing.

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Because it's we're recording,
what is it?

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Sunday the 26th, I was
explaining to Julia like it's me

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that goes to our front porch.
Shovels the rotting pumpkins.

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I know they run so.
Fast.

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They rot so fast.
It's like if you carve them the

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night, they will not be here for
Friday night.

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That's true.
So my, I was like, you could

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even we could come home Friday.
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And have a carving thing right
after school.

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That's right.
And have them be fresh, like

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have the candles there.
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And and do it all all well but
but y'all are doing a pumpkin

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carving or pumpkin painting.
Honestly, we're we're gonna go,

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we're going big carving.
It's gonna be crazy.

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Do you guys do just like yearly
like your household like it's

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like a tradition?
Tradition.

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Nice.
So all that to say, I know Jill

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has a lot more pumpkin
experience than I do and that's

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a big nervous.
I've got 0 like I participate in

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pumpkin stuff, but I'm not ever
buying pumpkins.

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I know she does that for
families and she's like Zach,

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it's going to take a cart.
There's logistics you need to

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think about and I have not
thought about it, but I want to.

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I'll send text updates to the
group because maybe I'm going to

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be an over my head.
No, that's good.

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I and back in the day we used to
do a pumpkin shoot.

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Were you ever around for this?
I, I never, I don't think I went

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to one, but I was around the
church when you guys were.

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Still there.
OK.

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And we would get some Tannerite
and we'd load some of them up

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there.
And so I would go around after

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things, after things, after
Halloween and like try to like

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you got any, you know, pumpkins?
You got one anymore and there

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was one church, I won't name it,
but they were like still trying

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to sell me at full price.
I'm like, listen, we're shooting

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these like.
We don't need premium I.

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I'm looking to buy wholesale
'cause these things are going to

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rot, right?
And yeah, so that that never

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worked.
Pumpkins.

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Yeah, so I did want to address.
Bring it up.

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As listening to our Ontological
podcast that aired.

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OK, yeah, I was pleased with it,
but man, I must have been very

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tired that night because I was
mixing some terms up and was not

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very precise with my distinction
between abstract and concrete

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and physical and non physical
'cause I kept using abstract

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where I should have been using
non physical.

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Oh abstract versus non physical
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See how?
Because like an abstract like 3

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is an abstract idea.
It can't stand in cognitive

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relationships.
God is not abstract, he's

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concrete even though he's non
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So I I.
Just I was gonna say I was

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getting a lot of feedback.
People were like Zach does your

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Co host like know I.
Just wanna say that you know I

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do.
I do know the difference between

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those and I Also I I think I
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empiricist.
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different.
Huh.

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Yeah, yeah, those are different.
So Locke and Hume, empiricist,

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not imperialist, but so I just
felt like I need to do like a

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make up like.
Hey, that's what this podcast

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is.
We're not afraid to admit our

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mistakes.
We, you know, we, we cleaned

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that up.
Yeah, yeah.

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And then the last thing I
thought I had for timely banter.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You will notice more in a

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Patriots hat.
Yeah, Patriots are looking

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pretty good.
I think we have banter that will

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air this Thursday.
We're talking about the

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Patriots, but it's like from 2
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but since then, that's funny.
We we were looking really good

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today against the Browns.
We looked really good last week.

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Who did we play?
I don't remember.

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I don't remember but.
You guys have played some like.

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Titans.
Titans.

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Yeah, you.
Guys played some powerhouses

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like the Titans in New Orleans
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Just these powerhouses and the
Browns, which I can't say

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anything.
The Steelers lost the bronze,

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but it was a Thursday.
Thursday night, games, short

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weeks, everything.
Happens.

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Bills, that was a good.
That was a really.

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Good one, that's.
A really good one, and it was in

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Buffalo.
I think, yeah, that that.

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That that, that is a legit and
honestly, there's not really any

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great teams and like if you
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There's only really one great
team right now, you know?

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It's like if you can, if you can
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anything can happen.
The Steelers do what they do

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every year.
They get out to a really strong

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start and then they slowly watch
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They're like dominating their
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But and, and you know, the
Ravens are terrible, but they

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play the like the Ravens two
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I can just see them like losing
both, you know what I mean?

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And just slowly losing their
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But anyway, yeah, I'm trying to
think if there's anything else

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like super timely need to just
what what's your take on all

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things like pumpkin flavor?
Like, are you a big pumpkin

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spice kind of guy?
Man, I do love pumpkin flavored

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stuff.
We had a dessert today at home

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groups that was pumpkin
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I I appreciated that I have had
one pumpkin spice latte from

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Starbucks this season already.
I did tell them I'm like, how

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can we reduce the sugar and like
we can just put fewer pumps in

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there, which I thought, OK, that
that's probably yeah, it's a

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good the right the right amount.
But yeah, I do like pumpkin.

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Now the store bought pumpkin
pies, it look like they're just

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out of a factory.
I can do those but.

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You're not going to say no, but
but yeah, yeah, I know.

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Yeah, yeah.
But like all the, you know, I, I

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do like pumpkin.
Jill makes these this pumpkin

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bread.
Get it from Trader Joe's.

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Apparently there's two stores
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Exactly.
I, I see all these like Facebook

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groups that they're like, let's
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And I always say like the median
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high.
So, Somerville, we're never

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going to get one of these
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I wonder why though.
I mean, people would still go

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there.
People would still go.

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There, there's enough people it
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You can go over there and they
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seasonal, so you can't get them
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But it is pumpkin bread.
We really like that as as a

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family.
Nice pumpkin.

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I I like pumpkin.
That's fine.

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Typical contract.
I do like it.

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I like pump pumpkin pie.
It's great.

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It's good.
I'll I'll, I'll eat a couple

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slices.
I'm not like, I'm not like

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always like dying like for, but
in the fall, pumpkin is good in

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the fall, people, people jump
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Sometimes everything has its
season, has its place and people

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sometimes are too eager and it's
like summertime and we're just

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eating drinking pumpkin drinks.
I'm like, we'll just wait to

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September 22nd and we can start
drinking this, you know, is

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there.
Something special on that date,

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September 22nd.
Well, my, my birthday's

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September 21st, usually my
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of summer, beginning of fall.
So it's like that's the

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demarcation.
So I'm I'm not in the.

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So it's still summer.
You've heard it here.

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On Zach's birthday, he wants
pumpkin flavored everything.

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Pumpkin soda.
Pumpkin.

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Coffee, Pumpkin cookies.
Just pumpkin.

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My house.
Yeah.

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You know that.
That's good.

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I hope I'm trying to think of
something I can say you.

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You mentioned clarifying your
words on on top of our argument.

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I'm glad you know, speaking in
your own words, that that's

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important.
It is important.

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And so I think we're gonna
finish up.

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We've talked about finishing up
our Pauline series for a while

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now.
There's so, so much of Paul.

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I had wanted to kind of do some
podcast exploring where he talks

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about his apostleship 'cause he
kind of changes how he talks

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about himself.
And there I was just overwhelmed

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with how much.
And so I thought maybe if we

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just look at all the places
where Paul talks about himself,

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I love it.
Whether it's, you know,

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defending his apostleship or how
they treated the Thessalonians

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or being in shipwrecked and
stuff.

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Yeah, it's like the
autobiographical.

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Now that's a book idea being
like the life of Paul, according

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to Paul, and just repackage it
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That is a that is a great idea.
I was even thinking this could

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could be like a sterning series.
Maybe I don't know.

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It's it's it's like on that
borderline between exegetical

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and topical because you will be
looking at scripture, but you

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won't be like just going through
straight through a book.

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I.
Like that idea this I'm I'm

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excited for it.
And as you were, we were

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discussing for the podcast,
there's a lot of content on

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this, like it's more than you
would think maybe at first.

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Place yeah, I was thinking it
might be one or two and I

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started looking and I think it's
going to be 4 more episodes so

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just buckle in for Tuesdays.
I think we have four more

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episodes on the life of Paul.
I think we still do want to do

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an episode maybe on where all
the apostles ended up.

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Like how many of them were
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Did Thomas go over to India?
You know, those types of.

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Questions things all the time.
It would be great to you.

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Know it could just be a Thursday
episode.

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It doesn't the one that has.
So it had to be in our Pauline

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series.
And then our pastor just

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finished up today on Abraham and
so, yeah.

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What is he?
Doing Yeah, we don't even know

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where he's going.
Keeping under wraps.

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But that could be a new
launching, could be a new

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Tuesday series after we finish
up these, you know, Paul and his

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own word series.
So we'll we'll have to see about

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that, yeah.
I love it.

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Well, let's get into Paul and
his own words.

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Let's take it to the next level
from the hearts of the Low

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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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All right, Paul in his own
words, the new apostle.

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And these go chronologically.
So kind of Paul's first books,

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Galatians and 1st Thessalonians.
And we're going to be looking at

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Paul as he's first pinning some
of the text.

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So these are his earliest
writings.

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So we kind of see him defining
himself, defending himself as an

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apostle.
And really for the setting for

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these, we're talking somewhere
around 48 to 52 ADI.

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Like I, I like this context that
you're giving us 'cause I think

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you reread these books and we
don't know exactly, you know,

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maybe Galatians, we do know.
So if it's 48 to 52 that's like

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15 ish years after Christ give
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Yeah, yeah.
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years, 10 to 15 years after
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And that's good to know, too.

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It's not like he's two years
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Yeah, he's.
Probably already gone on his

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first missionary trip and he,
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believers are, you know, kind of
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and you can see Jews coming in
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gospel some.
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maybe this is going on in the
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trying to undermine, be like,
you know, this Paul guy like

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this.
This isn't, you know, John does

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it, you know what I mean?
This is not, you know, it's

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like, yeah, yeah, it's got a
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So maybe you know what what Paul
is saying is important, trying

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to let you know, trying to
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Yeah.
So I figured maybe we would just

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open up and read the beginning
of Galatians.

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This will be a longer stretch,
but maybe even though it's ESV,

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do you want to read maybe the
1st 5 verses of Galatians?

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I would love to just start just
hitting it in Chapter 1.

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Yeah, All right.
You can hear my pages rustling.

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I.
Mean, I guess I could have read

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it myself, but I thought I'd
throw it to you.

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That's all right, one through 5.
I love it.

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Here it goes, Paul, an apostle,
not for men nor through man, but

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through Jesus Christ and God the
Father who raised him from the

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dead, and all the brothers who
are with me to the churches of

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Galatia, grace to you and peace
from God our Father and the Lord

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Jesus Christ, who gave himself
for our sins to deliver us from

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the present evil age according
to the will of our God and

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Father, to whom be the glory
forever and ever.

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Amen.
All right, So what we see here,

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Paul opening up and he really
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there's three different
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He's an apostle and he's not
sent from men.

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So the apostle just means
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So he's not a messenger from
someone and he's not even a

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messenger for Jesus through the
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So it wasn't like, hey, the Lord
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this.
Like so the Lord himself

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commissions Paul and that's
going to be part of his, you

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know, throughout his career.
If I can use that as an apostle,

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he's, you know, he is
commissioned by the Lord

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himself.
Yeah, he'll, he'll, Yeah, like

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you're saying, He'll, you'll
see, You might see this more

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than once.
He's gonna appeal to this, which

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is a good place to appeal if if
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All right.
And then he's going to, you

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know, I mean, I guess we could
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Really he's going to basically
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you are so quickly going to a
different gospel, even though

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we've given you a different
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And so 10 really picks up with
this next section about Paul

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talking about himself.
And I will read this.

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It goes through 24.
But I may find if there's, you

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know, an interesting stopping
point, I may stop or or may just

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through it says, For am I now
seeking the favor of men or of

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God, or am I striving to please
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If I are still trying to please
men, I would not be a

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bondservant of Christ.
For I would have you know,

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brethren, that the Gospel which
was preached by me was not

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according to man, for neither
for I neither received it from

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men, nor was I taught it, but I
received it through a revelation

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of Jesus Christ.
For you have heard of my former

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manner of life in Judaism, how I
used to persecute the Church of

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God beyond measure and try to
destroy it.

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And I was advancing in Judaism
bond beyond many of my

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contemporaries among my
countrymen, being more extremely

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zealous for my ancestral
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But when God, who had set me
apart even from my mother's

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womb, and called me through His
grace, was pleased reveal His

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Son in me so I might preach him
according to Gentiles, I did not

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immediately consult with flesh
and blood, nor did I go up to

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Jerusalem to those who were
apostles before me.

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But I went to Arabia and
returned once more to Damascus.

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Then three years later I went to
Jerusalem to become acquainted

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with Cephas AKA Peter, and
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But I did not see any other of
apostles except James, Lord's

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brother.
Now what I'm writing you, I

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assure you before God that I'm
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Then I went to the regions of
Syria and Sicilia, and I was

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still unknown by sight to the
churches of Judea, which were in

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Christ.
But only they kept hearing.

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He who once persecuted us is now
preaching the faith which he

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once tried to destroy.
And they were glorifying God

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because of me.
I, I love how he's not like

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sidestepping his past in here.
You could like, you'd be like,

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you know, I did some bad things,
whatever.

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He's like, he's like pretty
upfront like I did this, my

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life's been changed,
commissioned by God.

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This is how it is, but kind of
keeps going back to this is like

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I received this directly from
from God.

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This is not from a man.
This is this is from God

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himself.
Yeah, I think that's and it

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gives us some insight into his
travels cause he was on his way

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to Damascus, he went to Ananias,
right?

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And he's the one who like who
helped him with his sight and

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then he goes down to Arabia and
maybe looking for some oil from

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the OPEC, we don't know.
Probably so.

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That's great.
And there's places where he

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talks about having visions in
other places, but he says, you

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know, he's taught this as a
revelation of Jesus Christ.

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So it's like what, what exactly
did he see here?

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After going down to Arabia, he
goes back to Damascus where he

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was, which is to me is an odd
place to go 'cause he's going,

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you know, north of Jerusalem and
stuff.

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Galilee.
He's, you know, Damascus, you

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know, kind of in between Israel
and up there, Lebanon.

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And then he does go down to
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If you're looking at cardinal
directions, he meets Peter

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Lord's brother James and then he
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Cecilia and and they don't
really know him at this point in

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time, but so.
I will say this for context

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because I'm always like,
fascinated.

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How do you piece these stories
together?

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I was going to look this up.
Jerusalem Council Acts 15.

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Yes.
That's like around 8050 ish.

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I don't you know what I mean?
Like 40. 9 One of my versions of

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notes on here was saying that
Galatians was either written

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just before or just after the
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And you can see how how this
plays a factor in the Jerusalem

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Counselor James is also written
like around the same time.

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So it's just interesting to
piece these things together.

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That's good.
All right, next section unless

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you have anything more.
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So, so one through 14 standing
alone in for the gospel.

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So do you want to read maybe two
one through 14?

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I love it.
Here we go.

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My in the ESV at least the
prickly title is Paul Accepted

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by the Apostles. 2 verse one.
Then after 14 years I went up

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again to Jerusalem with Barnabas
taking Titus along with me.

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I went up because of a
revelation, and set before them,

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though privately before those
who seemed influential, the

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gospel that I proclaim among the
Gentiles, in order to make sure

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I was not running, or had not
run in vain.

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But even Titus, who was with me,
was not forced to be

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circumcised, though he was
Greek, yet, because a false

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brother secretly brought in, who
slipped in to spy out our

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freedom that we have in Christ
Jesus, so that they might bring

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us into slavery.
To them we did not yield in

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submission even for a moment.
That the truth of the gospel

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might be preserved for you, and
from those who seem to be

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influential, what they were
makes no difference to me.

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God shows no partiality.
Those, I say, who seemed

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influential added nothing to me.
On the contrary, when they saw

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that I had been entrusted with
the gospel to the uncircumcised,

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just as Peter had been
interested with the gospel to

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the circumcised.
For he worked through Peter for

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his Apostolic ministry to the
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me for mine to the Gentiles.
And when James and Cephas and

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John, who seemed to be pillars,
perceived the grace that was

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given to me, they gave the right
hand of fellowship to Barnabas

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and me, that we should go to the
Gentiles and they to the

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circumcised.
Only they asked us to remember

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the poor, the very thing I was
eager to do.

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All right, so very good.
So we see Paul kind of going to

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in private and it's it's yeah,
you can see how he might.

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I wonder what would have
happened in his mind if he had

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said, hey, here's the gospel I'm
preaching.

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And the apostles like, Oh no,
you got it wrong.

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Yeah, that could be crazy.
Would he go, oh, maybe I got

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something wrong, Maybe I
misunderstood this revelation

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for Christ where he'd be like,
that's not what Christ told me.

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Yeah, that is interesting
because not not too much after

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this.
He's like Peter.

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You're getting this wrong.
Right.

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That's our very next section.
Yeah.

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And so, but we do see, you know,
the same Spirit, the same Lord,

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you know, gave Paul the same
gospel that he gave the original

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12 and he goes there and meets
them.

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You see that, you know, if
you're familiar with kind of the

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theme of Galatians, what Paul is
defending against that, you

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know, you don't it's not grace
plus the law.

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It's not our faith plus works.
You see already he is basically

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saying, Hey, we, I went there
and that was Titus wasn't even

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circumcised.
So yeah.

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Joey was great.
I know.

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Yeah, he wasn't that forced to
be circumcised.

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There you go.
Now we do see later on that I

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think Timothy does get
circumcised.

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Yeah, yeah.
But.

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He gripped you.
That's his father, probably

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didn't, you know, do it right
type of thing.

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And so probably to be all things
to all people.

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He's like Timothy.
You probably should get

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circumcised.
It's like your family heritage

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type thing.
Yeah.

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Have you seen, like, these memes
of like, Titus versus Timothy?

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Timothy, like, what's going on?
Yeah.

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It's.
Kind of funny.

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So anything other?
Anything else from this section?

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The only thing I noticed as I
was reading it is a lot of

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parentheticals.
Like a lot of them, I'm always

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interested in the translation
choice and how you're doing.

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He's being this is like an aside
here versus not an aside.

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So you have parent, you have
parentheses in yours.

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Several times, like 3 times
through that section, yeah.

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Yeah, I think I only have one
section.

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Oh no, two, I have verse 6.
What they were makes no

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difference to me.
God shows no partiality.

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And then verse 8 for he who have
actually worked in Peter for

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his.
Do you have anything in verse 2?

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No.
Oh yeah, though privately is

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like sectioned off before those
in, in ESP at least.

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Yeah, very interesting.
I'm always interested, but

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that's it.
But I like, I like this that

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we're kind of taking this and
kind of touching kind of see,

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you know what Paul's thought
process throughout.

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Yeah, yeah.
So next section and this one, I

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think this, Oh, no, there's one
more section, a couple more

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sections in Galatians just just
looking at, you know, auto buyer

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autobiographical from Paul's
words himself of what he did.

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So this is 211 through 14.
But when Cephas came to Antioch,

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I opposed him to his face, stood
condemned.

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Yeah, it's very good, for prior
to the coming of certain men

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from James, he used to eat with
the Gentiles, but when they came

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he began to withdraw and hold
himself aloof, fearing the party

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of circumcision.
The rest of the Jews joined him

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in hypocrisy, with the result
that even Barnabas was carried

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away by her hypocrisy.
But when I saw that they were

449
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480
not straightforward about the
truth of the gospel, I said to

450
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Cephas, in the presence of law,
if you, being a Jew, live like

451
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,000
the Gentiles and not like the
Jews, how is it that you compel

452
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600
the Gentiles to live like Jews?
So then he's going to dive off

453
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,520
into some theological
discussions after that.

454
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,480
So really, I mean poor Peter,
he.

455
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,120
Just getting, just getting
called.

456
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,840
I love it.
I love his like you.

457
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560
You emphasize gonna pose them to
his face.

458
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,000
You know, Peter really has
these.

459
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,040
He goes from these mountain tops
to these valleys and then back

460
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,400
to the mountaintops.
You know, part of this, I think,

461
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,240
plays into his future books that
he writes, you know, about

462
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,480
persevering and stuff.
But you see, Paul, the section

463
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,360
you read, you know, kind of
privately uphill and accepted.

464
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,880
And now he he's not.
Going.

465
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,360
To yeah, he's not going to let
the gospel, you know, be tainted

466
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,440
by this tradition, even if it's
Peter.

467
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,640
I bet Peter likes being called
Peter, and Paul is just like I'm

468
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960
gonna call him Cephas.
This whole book just get em.

469
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
But yeah, out of out of step
with the truth of the gospel.

470
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,960
Strong, strong words.
But it's good good that's in

471
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,560
there.
So question for us.

472
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Today.
Oh, OK.

473
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880
Unity, yeah.
You know Paul talks, you know

474
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,480
you talk in Ephesians about
doing everything to contend for

475
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,360
the unity of the faith, strongly
contending for the unity.

476
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,760
Is he contending for unity here?
Oh, you're 'cause he's opposing.

477
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and and I I think, you

478
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,720
know, you keep reading in the
read in this passage that I'm

479
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,240
glad we read the whole thing.
It's like he's to, you know,

480
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,400
opposing and sake of unity,
actually, yeah, you know what I

481
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,000
mean.
Yeah, I think that's, I think

482
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,600
this is good, good because I
think Unity has to be based in

483
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360
something.
We can't just be like.

484
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,440
We're just all friends for.
Who we're friends for, you know,

485
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,680
whatever you do is fine.
Whatever I do is fine.

486
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,160
There has to be some grounding
to that unity.

487
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,440
And when Peter is like, you
know, potentially harming in the

488
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,080
other Judaizer, potentially
harming the very ground of the

489
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800
unity, yeah, he's gonna call him
out.

490
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,120
That's right, you're not they're
they're prioritizing secondary

491
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,120
thing is not unified on the on
the main issue.

492
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080
That's good, Yeah.
And then what?

493
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,120
What do we think about maybe new
voices?

494
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,960
Have you ever had a new
Christian kind of stand up?

495
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,320
I remember.
Oh wow.

496
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Yeah, I remember growing up,
there was this guy who was a

497
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640
believer.
I think he was a believer.

498
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,440
We don't know if he's a
believer.

499
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Maybe he's a believer.
I sound like Trump here.

500
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040
It was, yeah.
But he decided he was going to

501
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,720
be a preacher.
And I'm like, And this was, this

502
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,280
was not like my main pastor
growing up.

503
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,320
This is out of the church that
we eventually left to go to

504
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,440
where I would call my church.
And like, he let him, I think,

505
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,760
preach on a Sunday night or
something.

506
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,960
And it was just like.
A little bit, a little bit out.

507
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,600
There.
Yeah, yeah.

508
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,440
I was like what?
Like we need to never do this

509
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,520
again.
Yeah.

510
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,120
And and I think that's a really
good point with new believers.

511
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,640
I think contextually it's great
that, you know, I'm not saying

512
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,800
everyone needs to go to seminary
and that kind of thing, but

513
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Paul, Paul kind of had some
training in in the desert, you

514
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,120
know, pretty good training too.
You know, newly dubbed an

515
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,240
apostle, but not really 'cause
he's been converted for 10 years

516
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,880
now probably.
And, and he did spend that time

517
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,160
away.
It was like he was totally

518
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,440
thrust into the limelight, like
right after.

519
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,000
And he's already gone on one
missionary trip.

520
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,720
That's right.
That's right.

521
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

522
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,040
So he's kind of, this is his
first book, but he's not really

523
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,640
new.
New.

524
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,200
Yeah.
So what?

525
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Yeah.
So we're, if we're doing bad at

526
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280
this, how old do we think Paul
is at this point?

527
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520
I know we might not be able to
nail that down like totally.

528
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,920
He's probably, I would say
somewhere between 35 and 45.

529
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,520
OK, cool.
Somewhere between our somewhere

530
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,680
in our age.
Hey, there you go there.

531
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,080
You go.
That's really cool.

532
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,280
OK.
Yeah.

533
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,520
And then this finally this other
application point, you know, you

534
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,600
can love people and still
basically say, hey, you're,

535
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,720
you're wrong in this.
And sometimes that is what love

536
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,160
means, that you confront people.
Yeah.

537
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
That reminds me, I've got a few
things I want to address

538
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,720
publicly.
Do it right now or after?

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,920
After we get done recording,
yeah.

540
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,280
You have to wonder, too.
It was like this.

541
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,720
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll, we'll, we'll keep

542
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,000
moving on.
Because.

543
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,560
Something, yeah, Relation 4.
You know, some things it's like

544
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,640
some things you can handle in
private, but some public things

545
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600
you might need to address
publicly like it calls for that.

546
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,560
Yeah, yeah.
Especially if if there's a

547
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,600
public preacher who's saying
things, it's like, even if I

548
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,360
correct it, I mean, I guess the
great best, best outcome is you

549
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,800
correct it and he goes, you
know, or he or she.

550
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,640
And it's like, you know what,
you're totally right.

551
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,600
And and then they go and they
correct they hey.

552
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,680
I.
Said A and it's really B

553
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,840
perfect.
But that's probably not going to

554
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,600
happen.
And so if you if you sometimes

555
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,360
you need to like say, hey, this
is wrong type of thing.

556
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,760
All right, Galatians 412 through
20.

557
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,160
You you got that one.
I.

558
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Got it.
Let's let's do it.

559
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Brothers, I entreat you, become
as I am, for I also have become

560
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,840
as you are.
You did me no wrong, you know.

561
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,920
It was because of a bodily
ailment that I preached the

562
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040
gospel to you at 1st, and then
my condition was a trial to you.

563
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,120
You didn't scorn or despise me,
but received me as an Angel of

564
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,280
God, that's Christ Jesus.
What then has become of your

565
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000
blessedness?
For I testify to you, if

566
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,360
possible, you would have gouged
out your eyes and given them to

567
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,040
me.
Have I then become your enemy by

568
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
telling you the truth?
They make much of you, but for

569
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,280
no good purpose.
They want to shut you out that

570
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,760
you may make make much of them.
It's always good to be made much

571
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840
of for a good purpose, and not
only when I'm present with you,

572
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,680
my little children, for whom I
am again in the anguish of

573
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
childbirth, until Christ has
formed in you.

574
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,080
I wish I could be present with
you now and change my tone, for

575
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,440
I am perplexed about you.
Perplexed.

576
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320
That was a good way to put it.
He was saying I'm, I gouged my

577
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,680
eyes, that you, you know, all
these things kind of like all

578
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,920
over the place.
Yeah.

579
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600
So if we're tracking that first
missionary journey, obviously he

580
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,000
stopped by the Galatians and we
don't really know what Paul,

581
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Barnabas, John, Mark had in mind
for where they were headed,

582
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,000
'cause I think they went from
Antioch to Crete, right?

583
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Is that right?
You might be right.

584
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,120
I I don't know.
It's about.

585
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120
And it was on Crete where he got
some illness.

586
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,120
That's right.
Yeah, No.

587
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,080
You're exactly right.
And they think that it was some

588
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080
type of illness that affected
your sight.

589
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,600
And so then they go from there
up to Asia Minor, your favorite

590
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,680
area.
Present in Turkey.

591
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,480
There you.
Go and then they're, you know,

592
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,720
they're in these areas talking
to these different churches.

593
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,400
And so just some just some
insight into, you know, what

594
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
what it could have been.
Maybe his thorn in the flesh was

595
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,600
this eyesight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

596
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,880
That that was going out and you
see different, you know, he's

597
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,160
begging them to become as he is.
What?

598
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,120
What does that mean?
Maybe just that he's humble.

599
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,120
I don't know where he's humbled
by his bodily.

600
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,240
Illness.
I don't know.

601
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,920
Yeah, there's a lot of like in
this section, a lot of pleading,

602
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160
a lot of this begging, a lot of
like, man, you were like this,

603
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560
why are you doing this?
Like what's going on?

604
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680
Yeah, yeah, He is reminding them
of his relationship with them

605
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800
and and calling them to back to
his gospel.

606
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,280
All right.
And then the last one for

607
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,720
Galatians 611 through 18, it
says, see with what large

608
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960
letters I'm writing to you with
my own hand.

609
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,760
Those who desire to make a good
showing in the faith try to

610
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,400
compel me to be certain.
This is more theology.

611
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,440
Let's just get down to yeah, I
think we we're good with just

612
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560
611, see with what large letters
I'm writing to you.

613
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,800
So a lot of people think that he
would have an amanuensis and AKA

614
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,560
like the scribe, that he would
maybe dictate what he wanted to

615
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400
write.
This was fairly common

616
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,200
apparently back in the day.
But then maybe he would write

617
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,680
the last few things at the end.
Give some what real credibility

618
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,120
or it's like, hey, this is
really me.

619
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so this is where we get

620
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,000
this, you know, this letter
where he says see what large

621
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
letters I'm using, which is also
evidence.

622
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,240
Maybe he had some eye issue.
Yeah, yeah.

623
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,280
Now that that is good.
And so, you know, we read

624
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,120
through this, it's like we see
all this autobiographical

625
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
information and it, it just like
bleeds through.

626
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,760
I'm sure we'll continue to see
this.

627
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,000
A lot of emotion bleeds through.
You can think of Scripture as

628
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,920
just cold, hard theology and
nothing else.

629
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
And it's really not that at all.
You know, you, you can like,

630
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280
feel that in those little
passages we read.

631
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Yeah.
All right, so let's skip over to

632
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,760
1st Thessalonians.
We'll go through this kind of

633
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:57,040
quickly, but I 'cause I think it
will, yeah, kind of speak for

634
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,440
itself when read there.
If you are there, do you want to

635
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,720
read 2/3 through 6?
Let's do it 2-3 through 6 for

636
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,200
our this is second
Thessalonians.

637
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,880
Or First Thessalonians 2 three
through 6.

638
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,320
For our appeal doesn't spring
from air or impurity or any

639
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
attempt to deceive.
But just as we have been

640
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,560
approved by God to be entrusted
with the gospel, so we speak not

641
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,720
to please man, but to please
God, who test our hearts.

642
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920
For we never came with words of
flattery, as you know, nor at

643
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200
the pretext for greed.
God is witness, nor did we seek

644
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120
glory from people, whether from
you or others, that we could

645
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800
have made demands as apostles of
Christ.

646
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,240
So kind of again, defending
their reputation.

647
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,680
Hey, we didn't come under false
pretext.

648
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,680
We were true.
We didn't, you know, try to take

649
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
advantage of you.
There's no error out there

650
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,560
trying to please God, not man.
Next, Section 7 through 12.

651
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,640
But we proved to be gentle among
you, as a nursing mother

652
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,440
tenderly cares for her own
children.

653
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Having so fond an infection for
you, we were well pleased to

654
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,640
impart to you not only the
gospel of God, but also our own

655
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840
lives, because we had become
you, had become very dear to us.

656
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720
For you recall, we recall,
brethren, our labor and

657
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,120
hardship, how working night and
day so as not to be a burden to

658
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,360
any of you, We proclaim to you
the gospel of God, your

659
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360
witnesses, and so is God, how
devoutly and uprightly and

660
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,560
blamelessly we behave towards
you believers, just as you know

661
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400
how we are exhorting and
encouraging and imploring each

662
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,920
of you as a father would his own
children, so that you would walk

663
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,480
in a manner worthy of the God
who calls you into his own

664
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Kingdom and glory.
I love it.

665
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Mother, father, get them both in
there, you know, nursing,

666
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880
mother, father, making the whole
analogy, you know, family.

667
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Yeah.
And the fact that they are

668
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,720
working, so not only are they're
ministering to those in

669
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,240
Thessalonica, so that's that's a
job, but they're also working.

670
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,520
You know, it's hard to know.
I guess he's making tents

671
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,720
somehow.
I don't know what all that would

672
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,199
entail, but they're working to
kind of pay their own way.

673
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Yeah, it's interesting.
This like greed, all this stuff

674
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,719
like comes up a lot.
You know, you can imagine maybe

675
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,159
a lot of false teachers in those
days, like, just do that.

676
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:19,800
He's like, no, we're, we're
pulling our weight, man.

677
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Yeah.
And it's odd, if you remember in

678
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,760
Second Thessalonians, he's going
to have to address them for not

679
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,560
working.
So they're not working because

680
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
they thought the day the Lord
was already come or about to

681
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,159
about to.
Was it First Thesalonian in one

682
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:33,280
of the Thessalonians?
Basically.

683
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Addresses it all right.
Do you want to pick up three one

684
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,679
through 10?
Let's do it therefore we could

685
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,280
bear it no longer.
We were willing to be left

686
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,719
behind to Athens alone, and we
sent Timothy our brother and got

687
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480
his Co worker in the gospel of
Christ to establish and exhort

688
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
you in your faith that no one
would be moved by these

689
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,080
afflictions.
For you yourselves know that we

690
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,280
are destined for this, for when
we were with you, we kept

691
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560
telling you beforehand that we
were to suffer affliction just.

692
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160
It has come to pass, and just as
you know, for this reason, when

693
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,920
I could bear it no longer, I
sent to learn about your faith,

694
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,320
for fear that somehow the
tempter had tempted you and her

695
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,200
labor would be in vain.
But now that Timothy has come to

696
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,720
come to us from you, and has
brought us the good news of your

697
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,280
faith and love, and reported
that you always remember us

698
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640
kindly and long to see us as we
long to see you.

699
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,480
For this reason, brothers, in
our distress and affliction, we

700
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,800
have been comforted about you
through faith, for now we live.

701
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,360
If you're standing fast in the
Lord.

702
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,840
For what Thanksgiving can we
return to God for you, for all

703
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960
the joy that we feel for your
sake before our God, and as we

704
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,000
pray most earnestly night and
day, that we may see you face to

705
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,120
face and supply what is lacking
in your faith.

706
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,720
All right, so good kind of close
out, you know, we get some more

707
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,080
insight into, you know, Timothy
being there.

708
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,080
They're left behind at Athens
alone.

709
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,320
So I'm I'm not sure you're
tracking all of that, that

710
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,280
movement.
Yeah, it it a lot, a lot here.

711
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,800
I think big picture is like
Paul's like, man, I saw you.

712
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,400
I can't wait to see you again.
There's been like distress

713
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,840
affliction, good times, bad
times, you know, we, I don't

714
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,600
know, a lot of stuff's going on.
Yeah, but he he still is showing

715
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,040
in all of this his concern for
their faith, joy at Timothy's

716
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:27,600
report for him.
And so I think, do you have

717
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,920
anything specific to say about
first tests in general?

718
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,240
Nothing about first tests I.
Like that.

719
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160
So if you kind of look at, you
know, maybe some of the

720
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,160
connecting thoughts between
Galatians and Thessalonians, you

721
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,720
can see Paul is really going to
ground his apostleship in two

722
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,040
relations.
First and foremost, his

723
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,760
relationship with Christ.
He sent out from Christ and he's

724
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,520
given this true gospel that he
is going to fight for.

725
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,560
And then secondly, his
relationship to the people.

726
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,280
You know, we saw in that one
passage, you know, we treat you

727
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,000
like a mother just tenderly, you
know, so we in our conduct, you

728
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,240
could see we were, we were
blameless.

729
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,440
And so you see both of these.
And I think for anyone who's

730
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,200
aspiring to be, you know, a
leader or something, it's both.

731
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,720
It's like the doctrine and the
care that you might have for

732
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,400
them.
And that, that that's good.

733
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,760
And I think I, I've made this
point before, but it's like,

734
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,520
man, you think of Paul, this
great theologian, it's just like

735
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,800
like same thing.
It's like doctrine grounded

736
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,760
well, but it's also like genuine
care, a little bit of

737
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
frustration.
It's like emotions are like part

738
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,240
of life, you know, it's like you
can't escape the emotion.

739
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,640
A lot of passion.
But I think that's a good

740
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,200
reflection.
It it almost would be more

741
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,800
alarming if it was just like
cold hard, like do this, do

742
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,640
that.
Like, you know, there's no like,

743
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,240
tension there, you know?
Yeah, and the other thing is

744
00:37:55,240 --> 00:38:01,520
he's not afraid to boast in.
He's not boasting it, but he's

745
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,000
all these trials and afflictions
like if you had a start up or if

746
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,280
you're like, you know, those CE
OS like, hey, come invest in US.

747
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
And man, we have really had a
tough time.

748
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Let me tell you about all the
difficulties we have.

749
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
You're like, maybe I don't want
to invest in that.

750
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880
But Paul's like, hey, this is
how much I've been willing to

751
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,720
suffer for the gospel 'cause
it's true.

752
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,800
And I stand on the truth of it.
And I've, you know, my conduct

753
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,040
towards you been great.
And you know, so I think it's

754
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,320
the opening salvos for it.
All right.

755
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Anything else on this first
episode in Paul by his own

756
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,000
words?
I like it this.

757
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,320
I like this concept.
There's a lot in here.

758
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600
I at first I was like, oh, we're
just covering Galatians was

759
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,640
like, oh, we're doing this a
little.

760
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,400
There's a lot to cover.
This is good.

761
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,480
This is great.
Yeah, it is.

762
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640
It is a lot.
So next episode in this series,

763
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,040
we're going to kind of, we kind
of hinted at it already, but

764
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,480
we're going to turn the tide
where he's even going to be more

765
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,120
of this suffering servant.
We're going to see a lot of the

766
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120
trials that Paul has to go
through.

767
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Sweet, love it.
Yep.

768
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,760
That's our take.
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769
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Two.
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770
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,760
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771
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