Paul’s Last Words: Doctrine, Leadership, and Endurance

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All right, by the time this
airs, yeah, we're probably

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looking at our first game.
Wow.

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Yeah, yeah.
I bought.

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I bought soccer.
I bought some soccer pants and

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shorts.
You did for yourself.

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Yeah, I should show you what I
bought.

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I.
I, I, I wanted to keep this a

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secret.
Oh OK, but I'll let, but I'll

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let you know.
I bought 4 yellow caps, matching

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caps for the four coaches 'cause
that's our team color is yellow.

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So we'll have that.
But Phoebe was asking, she got

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all of her stuff in yesterday
and so she was asking to go out.

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So we went out today at our park
and we went over dribbling and

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stuff.
She's she, you know, I love it.

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I'm not a, you know, good soccer
player, but the distance between

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me and a five year old who's
never played it's it's quite a

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bit.
And I was like having her

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dribble around these cones and
she was getting a little

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frustrated at first, but I was
like, hey, we're just out here

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having fun.
You're learning it.

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I learned that she's definitely
right footed.

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Oh, you know, for, you know, for
for me, I kicked with my left as

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often as my right.
Well, not always good.

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Like were you?
The one who like shot you like

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were I'm going to shoot with No,
you, you were dialing the eyes.

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I was like wondering what?
Yeah, 'cause I'm left, I'm left

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eyed and I'm thinking that I was
such a horrible basketball shot

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because I should have been
left-handed.

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And so like, my left eye is over
here, my right hand is over

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here.
Like you're not lining that

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thing up.
I probably jumped off the wrong

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foot, you know?
What could have been, what

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could?
Have been, but it was it was a

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good time.
And so out of that, you know, I

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was telling her some stuff.
But do you since you're the head

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coach?
Well, I'm not, but yeah.

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Do you teach passing with the
inside foot at this age I.

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I don't, I mean, I don't know,
it's hard to do.

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It's hard to do at this age.
Even Jackson is like not great

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at it.
Because I was, I was trying to

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get her to like, like kind of
just inside foot on the right.

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You're kind of just running like
let it come off this foot, but.

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It's really hard.
Kindergarten is so hard, too.

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There's a huge difference, like
when I was coaching those kids,

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but obviously kindergarten, 2nd
grade, second graders can do

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anything.
Kindergarteners can do nothing

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and 1st graders it's like flip
the coin.

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So you want Jonathan and I to
take all the kindergarten first

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graders who can't do anything?
Well, well.

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I'm saying when when we split,
it might be better just because

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your children are there because
it is hard to get to get them to

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to anything.
Like really my goal with the

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kindergarteners last year was
just getting them like

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aggressive.
Like if you're kindergartener,

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you like run the ball, huge win
and you're actually do make a

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difference in the game.
Well, then Phoebe, maybe Phoebe

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maybe there 'cause 'cause that's
great.

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She would, she would run with
the ball as fast as you can.

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I'm really like, you gotta be
faster.

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Like, 'cause we did have a goal
there in our park and I was

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like, I was like, I love that
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We, we practiced with her like
kind of dribbling up and

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shooting and dribbling up and
then passing it to me to cherry

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pick.
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And then we did the same thing
with me.

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I like pass it to her and like
cherry pick it.

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That's great.
But could she could get?

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Last year we had one
kindergartner that scored a

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couple goals, a couple
kindergartners that were close.

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But the kindergarten that scored
a goal, scored like two or three

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goals, was like, she's just in
the mix getting a foot on the

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ball.
That's like cause 'cause every

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now and then it'll like sneak
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If you can just be aggressive,
'cause we like we maybe had

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three or four kindergarteners.
We had one that was awesome in

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the mix.
The other ones literally like

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like not near the ball, like
like I'll go for the ball.

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Or it was like, it was like a
Scooby-doo thing where like the

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ball went this way and they were
like way behind and this way

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they're like way behind.
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Like they're just kind of
swinging around it.

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Does everyone rotate through to
play goalie or no?

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Is that like 2 or 3 or 4?
So what I did because I didn't

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want to lose, but I did have
like all my first and 2nd

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graders do it and then some.
First, if we had like a lead, I

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would put like I I would have
let people who wanted to play

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goalie and try to do everyone we
try.

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People because reaction time was
not that great for for Phoebe,

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no.
Kindergartners are not paying

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attention really.
No one's even the second

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graders.
I'm like, I'm always like, make

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sure you're watching the ball.
They're you know, so normally

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Simeon man, natural goalie, I
end up putting him.

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He played at least like 1/4
goalie every game but that's

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like.
Are you supposed to do that?

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I used no, no, that's fine.
I used to get a new person every

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quarter just to get experience
and a lot of our second graders

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and 1st graders like like one in
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Gully.
If we were down, Simeon, you're

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just being gully, probably.
Probably see, this is going to

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be a tough thing because we were
never down last year.

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And part of me would like to
think I'm a good coach, but the

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other part of me was like we had
Ty, who was a powerhouse.

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I don't know if you you don't
know Ella, but Ella was like.

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Awesome.
She's so scrappy and then

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Jayden's very fast.
She's on a basketball team, too.

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We had an Ella who was scrappy.
Maybe it was her.

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Yeah, 'cause and they were all
Jayden, Ty and Ella were all

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three second graders and they
were good second graders and one

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good second.
Like Jackson's gonna be really

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good where he could, he could
tilt a game.

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But you have three of those that
are good 'cause they were some

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like, especially, I'm not saying
this one way or the other, girl

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versus guy, but there's some
secondary girls that are just

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not, it's not that they're not
capable, they're not interested.

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And it's like they're like
running around.

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So if you have like this
everyone who's at least scrappy,

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that makes all the difference.
You know, when they're that old,

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'cause they're actually fast and
they're strong.

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And it's like you just need your
second grader.

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Stuff.
Well, I I will say this based on

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that Phoebe does have a desire
to do well like so she was if.

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She will get in the mix and not
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Too timid.
Yeah, If she's not afraid,

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she'll get bumped and fall down.
And it's like our aggressive

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one.
She got like she cried.

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She had to come off the field,
but then she would get back into

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it when she was ready.
We had to tell people that once

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they got bumped, they were like,
this is not for me, you know?

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What I mean and?
So it depends 'cause even the

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one that was good would like,
need some time away.

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But it's like, oh, got back into
it and it was great.

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So yeah, oh, we got matching
hats.

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This is awesome.
I didn't actually buy anything

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yet, but my parents were like,
what do you want for your

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birthday?
And I was like, oh, you should

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get me these.
Like I got the like the Adidas,

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like the, the, the like
sweatpant kind of things that

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like taper, like, you know, like
the soccer, you know, like, you

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know what?
I'm saying like it's.

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Like the?
Soccer I.

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Think so it's the Adidas like
Tiro whatever pants and I don't

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need those until it gets cold
anyway, but I want to I'm going

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to get I got some.
Because we're just black shorts

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and our shirts.
Black shorts and shirts but I

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think if.
It's do you have a whistle?

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I do have a whistle.
I do.

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Is it a Fox 40 or no I.
Don't know this This guy in the

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Fox 40?
You'll like the Fox 40 whistle.

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I think it is because Fox 40 is
like basic whistle like.

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It's got the two, yeah.
It doesn't have the ball in the

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middle.
It just does not have the.

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Ball, it just has the two yeah,
it's little splits yeah and

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they're they're slightly
different sizes so the the I'm

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just.
Kidding.

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Differences in pitch is what
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OK, 'cause it's the, it's the
frequencies fighting against

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each other.
I got, I got a whistle.

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I don't know.
I don't like like a Fox 40

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whistle would be like a $7.00
whistle or it's like a fancy

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whistle would be like 20 bucks.
It'd be.

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Like a cheap little.
It's like 4 or 5.

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Bucks OK, OK Or 4 or 5 bucks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Inflation.
This is post.

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Maybe it is.
I haven't bought a whistle since

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20/22/2021 so.
That's great.

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We all, that's great. 4 whistles
out there just blowing the

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whistles.
Great.

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It'll be so good.
It'll be good.

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I don't think I have us breaking
up too much, but I, I, I think

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you'll like the drills that we
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They are good.
I think I tried to mimic what we

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did today based off what I
remembered of reading of that.

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Sweet.
So we did.

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We did.
Finally.

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I just realized I was trying to
get her to dribble kind of close

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quarters.
I was like, she's not getting

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the idea that you have to run
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So I was just like, let's go the
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So, so like I was like, you can
just kick it, run after it, kick

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it, run after it.
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don't want to kick it that far
because someone could come get

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it.
So let's try to kick it just

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shorter and run after it and,
and we worked on it.

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Oh, that's awesome.
I'm like super pumped.

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I'm getting excited for it.
I'm a little bit more nervous

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for the 3rd through 5th grade
because I just don't know how

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those games go.
I was like, I should get some

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feedback.
I talked a little bit with

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Jonathan and Kenya based on and
I just talked with you based on

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who's cares the most recently,
the one that was in it or no.

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None of my Julia.
That's who I was thinking, yeah.

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Julia played one her fifth grade
year of soccer and she's like,

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because we told her we were so
busy when Chloe was doing cross

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country, like and she would have
cross country meets on Saturday.

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So I was like, Julia, I don't
know how we can do both.

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And so she's like, Phoebe's
getting us to do this from when

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she was a kindergartner.
But you know I.

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Love it.
Well, you know, Paul was

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investing in younger people.
Yeah.

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Yeah, Just like we're investing
in the younger, younger

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generation when he wrote.
Yeah, go for.

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It if you're playing defense,
you're guarding that goal guard.

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Guard the goal.
Yeah.

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It's all about, you know, sound
doctrine.

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You got to get that right.
Play that defense.

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That's good.
We're talking, if you didn't

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catch on it, the pastoral
epistles in this little

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miniseries on Paul.
So let's go ahead and take it to

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the next level from the hearts
of the low country in South

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Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where

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we take theology to the next
level.

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Paul is stalwart theologian.
He is, yeah.

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If you know he was writing words
of wisdom to younger church

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leaders, what would he say?
Today.

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Wow, he would probably say.
I already told you rewrite I

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wrote.
And, you know, some of this were

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some of these letters were
toward the end of his life

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where, you know, you think of
someone's final words being

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important.
It's like man, Second Timothy

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where it's at here.
So we're talking pastoral

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epistles.
What are the pastoral epistles?

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I always get confused.
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you know, it doesn't matter
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Think it's fine?
Were these epistles that were

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written to other pastors?
There you go.

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Basically, you know.
Is that right?

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I I think so.
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as that to writing basically his
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name, you know, writing to
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must have.
I'm sure he makes those.

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Does Philemon make it into
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I don't think so because of
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is a personal letter as well.
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could slice it.
We're OK let's talk all the

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personal letters.
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Philemon.
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So that's a good, good
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It's not just all the names you
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So, so just to be clear, we're
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Timothy and Titus.
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That's it, right?
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OK and and so Timothy spent his
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city, a lot of paganism there,
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What we learn from Titus is all
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dishonesty.
I love it and just like out

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there infamous for dishonesty, a
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like guard the good deposit.
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themes is get this false
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that's really focuses on
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be the thing that actually leads
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He's like, basically be willing

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to die for this doctrine.
Like this is you got to be real.

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You got to go all the way.
That's what I'm doing.

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I'm being poured out as a drink
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You need to be ready for this as
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So maybe we can read some of
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flavor because we're not going
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First Timothy and Second
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Could you read 1 three through
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It says, as I urged you upon my
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on Ephesus, so that you may
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teach strange doctrines, nor to
pay attention to myths and

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endless genealogies which give
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than furthering the
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by faith 3 through 7.
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is love from a pure heart, and a
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faith.
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these things have turned aside
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to be teachers of the law even
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either what they are saying or
the matters about which they

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make confident assertions.
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genealogies, fruitless, they're
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assertions, but it's really not
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Timothy talking about this
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not, not so healthy and maybe
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Paul's like, hey, we kicked hand
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these things with with some of
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these false teachers in the
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And I think a take away would
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optional.
Like false teaching kills

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churches.
Like you need to do some

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surgery.
It's a really big deal.

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It's not like, you know, you
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That's why what we'll talk about
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important, that they're vetted
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there's something you believe
that is false.

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OK, yeah, this is a good
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But I don't think you believe
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you don't believe in anything
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And so, and that's why, you
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on the major issues.
And you know, there's the Bible

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covers a huge swath of things.
So at the edges you might see

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some stuff that's not as clear.
And so you might have good guys

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and ladies who take reasoned
position, but they don't one,

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they don't make them a hobby
horse and they don't make those

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minor things the major things,
so.

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things ordered the right way.
You probably spend most of your

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time on things that matter.
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things, I don't think you have
to like caveat everything you

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say because then that's like
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I mean, maybe some things you
want a caveat, but some things

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you just gotta pick something
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But it's.
I mean you Thunder on the fact

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that Samson looked like an
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But if that, if that's like
there's like a 15 week series on

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what did Samson look like?
That could be big problem.

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Wouldn't it be amazing all?
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Let's review last three weeks we
had these slides like it could

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have been the yeah.
Color of his eyes.

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Let's hear it, Let's hear it,
let's hear it.

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That's great.
So doctor's not optional.

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And that spills over into really
the go to passages for elders,

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for deacons, like you're always
looking First Timothy 3, your

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tightest 1, you know.
So if you're still in First

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Timothy, do you want to read
chapter 3 verses one through 7

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and just even like, think about
where doctrine matters or

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character matters and those
kinds of things?

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Yeah.
It is a trustworthy statement.

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If any man aspires to the office
of overseer, it is a fine work

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he desires to do.
An overseer, then, must be above

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reproach.
The husband of one wife,

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temperate, prudent, respectable,
hospitable, able to teach, not

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addicted to wine or pugnacious,
but gentle, peaceable, free from

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the love of money.
He must be one who manages his

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household well, keeping his
children under control with all

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dignity.
But if a man does not know how

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to manage his own household, how
will he take care of the Church

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of God and not a new convert, so
that he will not become

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conceited and fall into the
condemnation incurred by the

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devil?
And he must have a good, good

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reputation with those outside
the of the Church, so that he

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will not fall into reproach and
be the snare of the devil.

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Spends a lot of time talking
about church leaders.

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We if we were to read deacons
very similar lists.

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Yeah, maybe 1 notable exception.
Much wine?

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Is that what you're going for?
Not addicted to wine.

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Not addicted to much wine?
That's great.

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That's good, I love it.
I was going to say able to teach

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distinction.
But I'm like able to teach.

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OK.
Yeah, that's probably more

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important, able to teach.
That's great.

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bit of this.
It kind of sets this model for

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older believers training younger
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But As for you teach, what
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Older men are to be sober
minded, dignified, self

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controlled, sound faith and love
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Older women likewise, they're to
be reverent in behavior, not

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slanderers or slaves to much
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They are to teach what is good
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love their husbands and
children, to be self controlled,

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pure, working at home, kind,
submissive to their own husbands

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that the word of God may not be
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He goes on and talks about
younger men to be self

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controlled, a model of good
works that show integrity,

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dignity, sound speech, bond,
servants to be submissive.

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But we kind of see doctrine as
emphasized throughout.

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But on top of that, a lot of
these character words of, you

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know, being self controlled and
sober minded and sober minded

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and these kind of things, they
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you would think someone that has
these character qualities would

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stay faithful to the text as
well and not maybe like slide

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things around for greedy gain or
something like that.

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You.
Know that's good.

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So go to on some sound doctrine
for false teachings, go to on

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church order and leadership.
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alluded to it.
You know, this in this gospel is

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something you need to be willing
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If we look at Second Timothy 4
in particular, we get some

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common verses, I think that we
hear, but they're very weighty.

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They carried off.
You want to read 4/2 and 4/7?

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Yeah, 4/2 says preach the word,
be ready in season and out of

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season.
Reprove, rebuke, exhort with

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great patience and instruction.
Verse 7 says I have fought the

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good fight.
I have finished the course.

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I have kept the faith.
And maybe I should have asked

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you to read everything in
between 2:00 because I think I

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think it does paint a good
picture of what's going on in

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culture and why we need to have
these.

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Things so 3 through 6 is for the
time will come when they will

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not endure sound doctrine, but
wanting to have their ears

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tickled, they will accumulate
for themselves teachers in

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accordance with to their own
desires and will turn away their

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ears from the truth and will
turn aside to myths.

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But you be sober in all things,
endure hardship, do the work of

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an evangelist, fulfill your
ministry.

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That's kind of like do your job
for I am already being poured

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out as a drink offering and the
time of my departure has come.

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Man so so when you read all
those together, it is you know

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what pretty heavy that you need
to be steadfast to the word.

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And if, you know, we're reading
Titus and first Timothy, hold to

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the word that's going to produce
godliness.

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And then here be be faithful to
the end.

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Be willing to be
countercultural.

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Be willing to be countercultural
that that's great.

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I like in the notes it's saying,
you know, your call is not to be

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innovative but but faithful.
And I think it's like that that

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is a tension.
Even if you are being faithful

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to the text, you have this
temptation to like make it

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relevant.
You really know make.

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It interesting.
Draw people in, Yeah.

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Yeah, so that's good.
So thought maybe we do a very

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brief book by book snapshots and
then maybe talk about some

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unique things about it.
We look at first Timothy talks

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about instructions and sound
doctrine in the church

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confronting false teacher
teaching talks about order of

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worship.
Some roles got got some

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interesting passages there about
you know men and women and that

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kind of thing that are debated
at times.

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We talked about this
qualification for leadership if

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we were to move on to chapter 4,
this warning against apostasy

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and then really instruction for
church relationships.

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We've got these phrases, you
know, guard the deposits guard

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against do these temptations
creed and this kind of thing.

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But you can kind of see through
the through line is sound

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doctrine against the false
teaching, sound doctrine when it

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comes to worship, sound doctrine
for your leaders, sound doctrine

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in the face of apostasy.
And you know, when you're

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interacting with others, always
go back to to sound doctrine.

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And really that sound doctrine
will inform those church

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relationships that you would
read about towards the end of

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the book.
And then we also get these

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famous passes, you know, famous
verses, I think in First Timothy

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to talk about like the love of
money and these kind of things,

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you know, kind of juxtaposing
about, you know, what, what's

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important is it, you know, God's
word or all these other things.

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Second Timothy, Second Timothy
towards the end of his life.

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Do we know how how much time is
between First Timothy and Second

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Timothy?
I'm going to look it up while

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you read some.
Stuff, Yeah.

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So Second Timothy is at the end
of Paul's life.

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It's really Paul's farewell
letter.

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And it's like this last charge
to Timothy to really keep

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pushing the gospel forward.
And that's what the 1st chapter

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is all about, guarding the
gospel, being faithful to it.

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2nd chapter is about entrusting
it to faithful men.

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You get this passage where, you
know, teach men who will teach

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men who will teach men.
And I went to this discipleship

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seminar one time and it was
basically say you disciple and

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you don't stop discipling, you
know, like if I'm discipling

451
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you.
Yeah, I don't stop discipling

452
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you until you have discipled
people who are discipling

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people.
Wow, that's pretty crazy.

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And that's how I know I've done
my job well with you because

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you're you're teaching people
fruitfully enough that they're

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teaching other people, but that
that's where that paradigm comes

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from.
Chapter 3, this perilous times

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that are coming.
And then he's going to warn

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Timothy against that.
And then chapter 4, what we just

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read through preaching the word,
finishing the race, being aware

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of the, the current culture that
we, that you need to be, you

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know, counter to.
And then, you know, these great

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statements, you know, you, you
hope that on your deathbed or

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near your deathbed, you can say
these things that Paul says, You

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know, I fought a good fight, I
finished the race, I've kept my

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faith.
You know those are, if you can

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say those and, you know, really
mean it, you've lived a good

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life.
Looking up dating on this,

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obviously there's some leeway
here, but most people think

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early to mid 60s, first Timothy,
maybe like 62 to 64, and then

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second Timothy's like 64 to 67.
You run it down the Broadway,

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right?
Yeah.

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So it's like, you know.
Sometime around Nero.

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Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
So 6667, yeah.

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We get to Titus.
Maybe a good tagline is Grace

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00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,000
produces godliness, that God's
grace sound doctrine trains

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believers for good works and
holy living.

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Short book this is one of those
books like you can't you could

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memorize this book.
It's not incredibly I mean it

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it'd be a tough task, but it it
can can be done starts out

482
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,120
talking about qualification for
elders talks a lot.

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I've read some of Titus 2 about
these different relationships in

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the church to teach sound
doctrine, to model guidelines

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for the older, to do that to the
younger.

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And then you get to chapter 3.
I guess I'll read this.

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This is like a prominent passage
in Titus 2:11 to 12:00.

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For the grace of God has
appeared, bringing salvation for

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all people, training us to
renounce ungodliness and worldly

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passions and to live self
controlled, upright and godly in

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the present age, waiting for our
blessed hope, the appearing of

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the glory of our great God and
Savior Jesus Christ.

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And then chapter 3 talks about
about us being zealous for good

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work.
So it's kind of starts out with

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elders sound doctrine and that
moves towards us living rightly

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00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,720
in this world.
A couple things to keep in mind

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I thought was interesting.
You see this a lot, especially

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in first and second Timothy.
You see these faithful sayings

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where I'll be like the saying is
true or the saying is faithful.

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And you kind of see this like
repeated that there's some sort

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of maybe idea or maybe not a
creed, but these these kind of

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00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,080
sayings that are familiar at
least, or something Paul maybe

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00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:12,680
said often in First Timothy 1/5.
He says the saying is

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trustworthy and deserving a full
acceptance that Christ Jesus

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00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,120
came into the world to save
sinners, of whom I am the

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foremost.
That's a little bit different

507
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,880
than Philippians.
Oh, yeah.

508
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
That's true.

509
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Yeah, a little contrast from
Philippians 3, but that's a good

510
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,080
trustworthy saying.
If that's like a little pithy

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00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,120
truth you want to keep on your
mind, that's a good, good way to

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00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,200
view life.
We go to you read this in First

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00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,160
Timothy 3 or you got that?
First Timothy, 4/9.

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00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,520
Go for it, yes.
It says it is a trustworthy

515
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,720
statement deserving full
acceptance, for it is for it is

516
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,480
for this we labor and stride,
because we have fixed our hope

517
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,400
on the living God who is the
Savior of all men, especially of

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00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480
believers.
And I don't know the way if it's

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00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,880
written is if it's saying the
previous thing he said was

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00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,200
trustworthy.
It is confusing.

521
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,040
Yeah, the previous thing he says
for bodily discipline is only of

522
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,400
little profit, but godliness is
profitable for all things since

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it holds a promise for the
present life.

524
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,480
It's one of my favorite.
Verses, Yeah.

525
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Really like that?
Bodily discipline is good for

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00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960
this life.
Godly discipline, good for this

527
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240
life and the next.
I love it that that is good.

528
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440
I mean there there's also one of
First Timothy 3 that says the

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saying is trustworthy.
Michael, read this earlier.

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If anyone aspires to the office
of overseer, he desires a noble

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00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,840
task.
So we've kind of got these

532
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,400
things in there.
And then in Second Timothy,

533
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,320
there is this trustworthy
saying.

534
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,040
It's kind of patterned like a
hymn or a creed fragment.

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00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,840
It's it's maybe even in your
scripture, in your Bible, it

536
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,440
might be kind of set asides the
the types that might be set

537
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,280
aside.
Is this the saying is

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00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,200
trustworthy.
If we've died with him, we'll

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00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280
also live with him.
If we endure, we'll also reign

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00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,760
with him.
If we deny him, he will also

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00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080
deny us.
If we are faithless, he remains

542
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,160
faithful for he cannot deny
himself.

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
I like these trustworthy things.
These are all pretty, pretty

544
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,040
good to think about and they
kind of contrast one thing with

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,800
another.
It kind of helps keep certain

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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,760
things in your mind.
And then we've got one in Titus

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00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,000
as well.
Titus 38 says this, saying the

548
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
saying is trustworthy, and I
want you to insist on these

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00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,960
things so that those who have
believed in God may be careful

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00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
to devote themselves to good
works.

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00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,880
It's great.
True doctrine leads to

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,720
transformed lives.
They're kind of maybe a little

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00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,280
phrases, Paul said often in
First Timothy.

554
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,960
I was going to see if I could
see this in my scripture here,

555
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,040
First Timothy 3, we've kind of
got this.

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00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,880
It's also, you know, set aside
as like poetry or a hymn of sort

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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,520
with this Christological hymn in
first Timothy 316.

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00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,840
It says great indeed, we confess
is the mystery of godliness and

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00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,880
then kind of goes into this hymn
that says we he was manifested

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00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,800
in the flesh, vindicated by the
Spirit, seen by angels,

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00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,960
proclaimed among the nations,
believed on in the world, taken

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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,680
up in glory.
And it kind of reads kind of

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00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,960
like a like a creed or hymn of
some sort just going through all

564
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,520
these different things that
Christ did very formulaic or

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00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,000
poetic anyway, kind of a little
story of Christ.

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00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,320
I'm sure Christians were putting
together these things very early

567
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,000
on, you know, even before things
like the Nicene Creed and that

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000
that kind of thing.
Great.

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00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,800
We're looking at these verses
today, or it's not verses, but

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00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,160
these books today, they get good
books to read, their shorts,

571
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600
easy to read, huge emphasis on
doctrine.

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00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,760
You know, we all look at today,
and I think some of that has

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00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,000
fallen by the wayside or it's
not convenient or whatever it

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,920
is.
It's like, you know, there are

575
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520
people out there that want to
affirm the Bible is God's word

576
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,600
but don't like to affirm
everything it says.

577
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,840
Or it's like, you know, that was
like a different picture.

578
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,200
So a lot of that changes, but
doctrine still matters.

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00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Also, these books nail it that
leadership still matters.

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,040
I think we see a lot of where
leadership failings in today's

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00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,600
age where it's broadcasted on
social media that it's why the

582
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,440
character is so much emphasized.
And to that point, faithfulness

583
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,280
still matters.
Like you said on your deathbed,

584
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,120
that's a good thing to be able
to say that you're still running

585
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
that race well.
That's good.

586
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Yeah.
So if you're aspiring pastor,

587
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,440
maybe these would be books to
dig into and kind of help you

588
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680
think of.
You know, here's what my calling

589
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,360
is, here's what my perseverance
is, here's what I want to be

590
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,680
able to say on my deathbed.
Those.

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00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,880
Things, Hey, if you're a
congregants, read these and and

592
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,360
be like, Hey, pastor, you know,
are we are we teaching sound

593
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
doctrine?
Are we, you know, living?

594
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,920
Are these things?
Are you the husband of one wife?

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00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,760
Maybe or.
Or or is like, oh, are you know,

596
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,480
are you, are there other things
that are not jiving up with?

597
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Yeah, while you were reading
those I was looking through

598
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,960
because in First Corinthians 15.
Oh yeah, something similar ish.

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00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080
But it's not indented.
It's not like inverse.

600
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240
But you know where Paul says I
pass on to you what was first

601
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,720
passed on to me of utmost
importance in that Christ died

602
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,680
and was with.
So I was looking to see if it

603
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760
was kind of similarly formatted
as these other verses, but it's

604
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,720
it's not it's it's different.
So that's that was my little

605
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,200
side quest while you're
finishing.

606
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Up those this side quest.
Well, that's great.

607
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920
Well, I'm excited.
Maybe we'll give like an

608
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840
overview of Paul.
We've already done we got Romans

609
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,760
like wrapped up.
So go listen to 40 episodes on

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00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,840
Romans or whatever it was and
maybe we'll tackle some of these

611
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,480
other one maybe hit, you know,
some different things.

612
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,120
So anything you got to close
this out?

613
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320
No, I think that's good, good,
good overview.

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00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,680
So go read, you can read all
these read 1 a day.

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00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,920
It's not, it's not that tough.
So you can go go through read

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00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400
these castoral episodes.
I love it.

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