The Kingdom of God: What Jesus Preached Most

Episode 2.23
What did Jesus talk about more than anything else? The Kingdom of God.
In this deep-dive episode, we unpack the most central theme of Jesus' ministry: the Kingdom—not as a political empire or future fantasy, but as the present and coming reign of God. From its “already / not yet” tension to its ethical demands, spiritual entry requirements, and eternal destiny, this episode traces the Kingdom through Scripture and theology with clarity and conviction.
We explore insights from George Eldon Ladd’s Kingdom framework, clarify common misconceptions, and ground our discussion in the words of Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets. Whether you're new to Kingdom theology or just need a clearer picture, this is your all-in-one primer.
Topics include:
– What is the Kingdom of God?
– Is it here now, or still future?
– Who belongs to it, and how do you enter?
– How does it shape Christian mission, ethics, and hope?
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Well, Michael, do you have
anything that just grinds your
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gears?
Grinds my gears.
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Rustles your jimmies, gets under
your skin.
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Oh yeah, yeah, six of your
crops.
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Pet peeves and I asked chat for
other words for pet peeves.
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Things that frost my cookies,
burns my biscuits, gets my goat,
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boils my blood, sours my milk,
cooks my grits.
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That's nice, cooks well.
Cooking grits is a good thing.
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Hey, I don't get mad.
Come on, Chad.
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Yeah.
Flips my flapjacks.
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Haven't I haven't heard that
one.
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Chaps my hide.
Chaps on hide, That's a good
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one.
Yeah, I was like rough.
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Yeah, there's there's a lot of
good words for pet peeves.
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I don't know, have we done this
for a Bantry?
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I think we have.
I think the reason I bring it
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up, we did pet peeves at Impact
this past week.
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And your daughter?
Made some great contributions.
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Which one?
Well, Chloe was like, oh, I've
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got a Google note I've been
working on this for like I've
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got like 100 pet peeves and
didn't know the best part were
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her pet peeves.
Like, So what I did is I had
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everyone write down one to three
pet peeves on a piece of paper.
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She probably gave you 20.
She gave me 4 so she didn't in a
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in a good way to just mix it up
and I mix up all the pet peeves.
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I would read them and guess who
it is.
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And I had people do more than
one if they wanted to.
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So they like time it for like
the last one.
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And her pet peeves were like, I
really like dishonest people.
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Like they, it was like, it was,
it was like, it was hilarious
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'cause like we were like, is
that a pet peeve or is that
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like, you just are morally
upright or you know what I mean?
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But it's funny.
It offends her.
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No, yeah, yeah.
But they were, she was like, had
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a huge list.
I wish I would have put all of
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them down.
But what are some What are some
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good pet peeves that just really
get you going?
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Yeah, I'm, I'm not sure that
this falls strictly into pet
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peeve, but the other, So my
third eldest and 3rd youngest,
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smack dab in the middle child
has gotten her learner's permit.
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So we have done three times
driving up here.
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On one of those trips, it had
rained very, very heavily the
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night before.
I think this this is recording
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this on Monday.
So this would have been Sunday,
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Saturday evening.
Yeah, it did rain like crazy.
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It's.
Been raining every day.
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Every day it's been raining,
but.
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And I was driving down Montague
Plantation.
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So for all of you, we've given
you enough information you kind
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of figure out.
Yeah.
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Kyogia, locate us if you don't
already know where we live.
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I was driving down Montague
Plantation.
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I'm like there Looks like
there's a huge hole in the road.
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Oh boy.
And I turned around and
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scattered out.
I was like, yeah, there was a
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straight up sewer.
Not like the not like the
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runoff.
Oh, you're gonna catch you.
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This is like chunks floating in
it.
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But it was high.
Oh, man.
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And the lid was off of it.
Wow.
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And those manholes are huge.
And it wasn't as bad as what I
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thought it was going to be
because I was like, got my I.
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I called Diamond one, got my
flashlight out and was like
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warning drivers like don't hit
this.
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And some drivers just didn't pay
attention.
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They hit it at speed and if they
hit it at speed, it's fine.
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They just.
And then I'd smell sewer smell
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because they were like, but so I
was like, I might be doing more
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harm than good because there
were a couple of them that
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slowed down and then like they
scooted over and like, oh, your
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tires going to hit it dead on
going slow.
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But I did watch out for
motorcycles because like if a
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motorcycle hits that, that could
be a really bad day.
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But yeah, so out of that, I
don't want to be the, you know,
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I always want to be like, if I
see something that needs someone
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to take action, I want to be
that person and will go, OK, I
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will step up and take action.
Because how many other people
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probably drove by that and was
like, oh, that's not good.
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But then just kept driving and
then like, didn't call, didn't,
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you know, stop to help people
out.
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I don't know if I've always been
that way.
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Maybe I have.
But I remember in the Navy, if
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you came across something that
was bad, you couldn't leave
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because you had to stay there to
warn other people like, hey,
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there is a live wire here.
That way you know, you're.
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So the first person there is
basically has to control the
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scene.
Make sure no.
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And then the next person that
comes, you can be like, go get
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the command Master Chief, go get
the command duty officer,
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whoever you need to get at that
point in time.
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So maybe that's kind of been
drilled with my fingers out.
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I don't know.
Yeah, that's probably not a pet
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pet peeve, but true form, you
know, Chloe's following.
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The apple does not fall far from
the tree, so I'm not going to
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say who put this, but someone
did put people that's bumped
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their leg up and down really,
really fast.
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And, you know, people are like,
oh, you're calling out my dad.
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So that was funny.
Yeah, that does happen,
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especially like if I, if it's at
the end of the day and I'm a
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little bit tired.
Yeah, I don't know, like it's my
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body's natural reaction to being
a little fatigued.
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That knee will start going up
and down, especially if it's
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like if, if my knee my, my
foot's underneath my knee kind.
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Of like, you kind of gotta,
yeah, get it going.
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Like you're doing it, you're
doing it right now.
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It's great.
I don't know if you deal with
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this at work.
I don't know if you have like
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huge distributionalists and
every now and then people will
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like reply all to an e-mail.
That's a bad. 10 My goodness.
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And even especially they're
like, they just like say thanks.
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That's not does not help the
conversation at all.
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The true pet peeve is the person
that starts.
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Who?
Starts it and doesn't put that
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distro all in the BCC.
For everyone out there, blind
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carbon copy, if you have a large
distribution list, you put that
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in the BCC and then you can even
say, hey, I have put, you know
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all of this department in the
blind carbon copy so you know
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who is going out.
That's right.
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You can tell people, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
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And and then when you reply all
like you only have like in the
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two line or the CC line, you
only have people that would need
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to get response.
So that's the first mistake
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happens and then people go stop
replying all in the reply all.
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We've had them go on for day
like for a day and a half
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before.
Like someone had to go into the
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mail server and like.
Try to RIP.
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RIP stuff out.
Yeah, and it seems like it's
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always like the same for people
like the offenders.
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They just keep doing it.
This is different.
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This is not a pet peeve.
This brings me great delight
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when I'm not leading a call.
We, we have a couple people who
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are really bad at muting.
And so there's like a huge call
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with like 30 people or 50 people
or 100 people.
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And there's like two people who
either accidentally have their
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camera on or they don't mute
themselves and they're like
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talking to their spouse or their
kids and they're and it's, it's
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great.
One call, one worker.
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There is like this was a big
call.
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The CEO was leading it.
There's 300 people on this call.
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It's great.
It's like an important call.
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Like when our, it's like one of
those things, I think it's just
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a culture thing.
And a lot of companies probably
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it's like if the CEO's doing the
call, like I'll hear from my
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boss and other people, it's
like, hey, you're going to be on
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this call and you're going to be
on early.
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We're going to be engaged and
it's good.
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It's like it's a big deal.
You can't.
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He's like if you've thrown up
for other calls, no big deals.
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Everyone's on and all of a
sudden halfway and he just
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talked like the 1st 10 minutes
and then he's out of there
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anyway.
It's like you just pay attention
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to the beginning and you just
hear this.
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So take that down.
Fox No, no, no.
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Zach only pays attention during
the beginning and then once the
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CEO is out he's he's checked out
too.
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Just just for all the Fox people
listening.
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The the translate I give extra
attention to the CEO, but during
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this call you just heard a giant
flush.
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Oh, no, no, no, no.
No, no.
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Are you on?
What platform are you on?
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Is this?
Was years ago.
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We were, it was before we used
Teams.
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It was like Dream.
It was some like, I don't know
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what the platform was, some
weird platform that wasn't a
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good one where you couldn't like
just mute everyone.
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Right and well, and because on
teams, if if your mic goes off
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your picture highlights or at
least your initials, so you
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would know who it's from because
I I've I've experienced the
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exact same thing years ago.
It was just a phone till and we
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heard some crazy noise.
It was like, and it's like dude
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wiping himself.
And then we hear the flush.
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We're like, oh, no.
And we kind of figured it out.
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And we I like, texted someone.
I was like, you need to go get
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your boy.
Tell him he's not on mute.
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And maybe, you know, you know,
sometimes things are more
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important than a call,
especially for this guy.
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Like, he wasn't like a key
player.
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Like you could have just hung up
if nature calls you what I'm
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saying.
Right, Right.
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I'm always parent.
I'm like quadruple checking.
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I'm on mute.
Like if I have to say anything
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or I'm sneezing, I'm like, I'm
just making sure because I've
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seen people.
Yeah.
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Boys go in there.
So that was all time that was
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back.
That was probably like 20, 18 or
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something.
It was back before it was like
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we didn't even do video chats.
It was like you even like I
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think called into a number or
something.
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So it was a long time.
You had to enter in your.
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Yeah.
It was like code and stuff this.
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Doesn't seem like so long ago
now.
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Like archaic, like, what were we
doing?
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Yeah.
Also, this is not and we can we
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can jump after this but or get
into.
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No, we gotta keep.
We need an hour of pet.
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Peeves my best we have this guy
who he's awesome.
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He's we're at the same position
and we like a bunch of us get on
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a call 5 or 6 and he is the one.
He doesn't always forget to mute
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himself, but he doesn't.
He's always, we're always like
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have like a side chat like Mika.
We're like, oh, I wonder what so
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and so is eating today.
Can you hear like the serial?
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It's like we always know or like
he's it's like great.
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We have like this whole side
commentary on it and it just
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brings me so much joy.
Yeah.
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That's the best.
Yeah.
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So I was victim to this one
time.
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I had to be in a meeting, and I
also had to drop Chloe off
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somewhere.
And this was year.
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This is probably 2016.
And she had, I don't know if you
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like if you know Chloe's
penchant for oatmeal.
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Oh, I don't think I know.
This she loves oatmeal.
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She's, she's an old soul, I
guess is what some people.
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Are we talking classic or
Peaches and cream?
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Or are we talking or everything?
Probably classic with maybe a
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little cinnamon sugar or maybe a
little touch butter or something
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like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But she had had that, she put
that in there and, you know,
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shut the door.
I'm on mute and, and stuff.
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But I had to, she's out of the
car now and I'm talking and
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stuff and like I have to, you
know, put on my brakes pretty,
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pretty good or something because
I'm driving back and her bowl
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goes and it's like the the spoon
is like, you know, making this
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like someone's like sounds like
someone's in the kitchen.
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And I was like, sorry, you know,
I was like, do you explain it
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there, you know?
Yeah, How much do you go into
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detail?
Last thing I'll say Chloe did
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have a good one, like blanking
on all these pet peeves.
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One of her, one of hers I
thought was good, was like she
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hated these cliche quotes.
She hears a lot.
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I can't remember what it is, but
it's like there's something
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about a girl.
It's like she was just a girl.
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I was trying to look at Chuck.
It was like, it's something I
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think you would, you would hear
a lot.
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But then the other one was boys
will be boys.
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She's like, people just say boys
do whatever they want, and then
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people just say boys will be
boys, make it off the hook.
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He's like, don't like that.
I think that boys will be boys.
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There's some merit to that
saying, but it can be taken too
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far.
It should be used to excuse, you
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know, amoral boyish behavior,
like picking up a rock and
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throwing it at a pond or
something like that, or
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wrestling or, you know, that
kind of that kind of stuff.
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The kind of stuff that, you
know, not to mention our
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location, but the kind of stuff
that, you know, educational
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institutions, like, try to lock
down because it's disrupted to a
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classroom.
And I think sometimes that stuff
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needs to.
I don't know what the solution
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is, but yeah, I do understand.
Like if someone's, if they're
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being, you know, wrong in it,
you know, you can't just excuse
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bad behavior.
But I don't know that all bad
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behavior rises to the level that
we were told that it should, you
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know?
Yeah, I was trying to look up
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this quote, she said.
It was something like she
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believes she could, and so she
did.
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It's.
Like she believes she could.
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And she's like, I just hear this
all the time.
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Like I just, I've heard it too
much, you know.
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So anyway, it was good pet
peeves.
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I hope a pet peeve of our
listeners out there is not not
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hearing about the Kingdom of God
because we're going to talk a
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lot about that coming up very
soon.
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You might be exhausted by the
time we're done because our
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notes say an exhaustive
overview.
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I love it.
Well, let's go ahead and take it
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to the next level.
From the hearts of the Low
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Country in South Carolina.
It's the Take Two podcast where
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we take theology to the next
level.
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The Kingdom of God.
Is that hand?
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Is that hand?
Yeah, Yeah, We've all heard
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that.
That's scriptural.
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It's one of those interesting
topics that I think most people,
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if you spend any time in church,
you've heard a lot.
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But I think if you ask people
like hey, define for me the
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Kingdom of God, you would get
all sorts of different answers.
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Kingdom, God, Kingdom of Heaven.
Yeah, yeah.
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It's like, you know, those
phrases just go by and you don't
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you don't pay attention to them.
And then some, I think maybe 10
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years ago I was talking to Joe
was like, well, you know, some
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people make this huge
distinction about Kingdom of
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heaven and this gospel, Kingdom
of God and this gospel.
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Like what did this this writer
mean?
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Is it heaven?
Is it God's reign here on earth?
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Those are good questions.
And I think that it's good to
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like, think of How would I
define this?
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Because I, I think also, if you
were to like pull evangelicals,
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like what, what was most central
or what did you just talk about
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the most in the Gospels?
I think a lot of people might
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say things like the cross or
help or or or social things.
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Which he didn't.
Which?
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Yeah, he didn't.
Or you might be like, hey, I'm
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super spiritual, the Gospel.
What's up about the cross?
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It's like the Kingdom of God
outnumbers the cross a lot as
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term in terms of volume.
'Cause he'll say the Kingdom of
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God may be like them too.
It's and then, and then it's
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like he fills that in with, you
know, a mustard seed, which is
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the smallest seed and it grows
up and the birds are in the
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leaves and stuff.
You're like, what are we talking
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about, Jesus?
Yeah, yeah.
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And so much time.
So I'm excited.
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I think this podcast is going to
have a lot of scripture.
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So buckle up, Maybe get your
Bible out.
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We might be just like moving.
I'm going to be reading up.
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Scripture a lot and so first
question I want to ask is let's
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get the definition.
What is the Kingdom of God?
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And I think a good take away is
it's good to think God's rule,
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God's reign, not necessarily
geography because I think when
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you think of Kingdom, Kingdom.
Domain domain.
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It's king.
It's the domain of the king.
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And it, I think it's a little
tricky when you talk about
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Kingdom of God because, you
know, where's God?
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Where is God ruling?
How is he ruling?
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Because once it's, you could
say, oh, he's been rolling.
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Forever.
He's sovereign over all
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everything, so he's ruling into.
The conversation.
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But there's going to be a fuller
ruling.
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I love it and I borrowed
there's.
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I wish I would have brought it
but I just am out of source
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today.
Michael beat me here.
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He has his Bible.
I don't.
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It's like man.
It's we're going to talk about
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this at a different podcast, but
I'm wearing our new shirt.
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Yeah, he's like on top of his
game.
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I'm barely surviving.
I was going to bring George
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Eldon Ladd.
He is this guy.
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I don't know when he wrote,
maybe 100 years ago or
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something.
He's got like this short little
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book.
It's like 120 pages and it's on
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the Kingdom of God.
And he really takes a lot of
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time to develop the already and
not yet.
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He talks a lot about what you
talked about on Sunday with the
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mountain ranges.
He does a lot of that kind of
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thing and he's like historical
pre mill like and he bases a lot
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of that on the Kingdom of God
and already not yet.
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And it's like a it's like a
short read, which is nice.
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It's not this like encyclopedia.
And he makes this really good
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point that it you really want to
think God's dynamic and
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sovereign reign.
It's not not the physical realm,
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but God's reign.
It's his redemptive action in
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the world through Christ.
It exists wherever God's will is
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done and authority is
acknowledged.
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And so another thing we'll
probably get into, like the
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Kingdom of God is not the church
either.
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It's not like, oh, the church is
the Kingdom, the church, you
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know, maybe help impact the
Kingdom, but it's not, it's not
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the exact same thing either.
So maybe we can look at some of
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these scriptures and at least
just start rapid firing some of
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these out there.
OK, you may just hit let's.
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Hit it.
All right, so Matthew 610 says
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your Kingdom come, your will be
done on earth as it is in
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heaven.
Hopefully that's a familiar
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quote to most people.
And and and the implication
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there is.
It has.
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It's not here yet.
It's not here yet, Yeah.
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So you gotta be thinking, OK, in
some capacity, the King of God.
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'S not here, and it's somewhat
tied up with his will being
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done.
Yeah, yeah, there's this.
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Connection.
Yeah, yeah.
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And it's maybe his Kingdom is
somewhere, but we want it here
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on Earth, and we want the same
fullness on Earth, but it is
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some other places.
I like it.
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That's a great way to be
thinking about this.
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You want me to keep going, just
keep going.
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Luke 1720 through 21 The Kingdom
of God is not coming in ways
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that you can be can that can be
observed, for behold, the
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Kingdom of God is in the midst.
Of you so.
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So it's not here, but it's
right.
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Here, Yeah.
Yeah, that's confusing.
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Matthew 1228.
But if it is by the Spirit of
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God that I cast out demons, then
the Kingdom of God has come upon
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you.
And Jesus was casting out
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demons, so Kingdom of God
connected with Jesus was right
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there.
And then we get Old Testament
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reference.
Psalm One O 319 Grammys Favorite
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Sexual verses in all the Bible.
The Lord has established His
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throne in the heavens, and His
Kingdom rules over all.
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And so in some capacity, it
rules over everything.
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And so we'll spend the next a
little bit kind of unpacking the
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different ways the Kingdom is
talked about and maybe we can
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get some clarity to this very
important topic and we'll talk
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about it in that framework of
the already or not yet.
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So we've hinted at this a little
bit, but let's let's just hit
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some verses where the Kingdom of
God is present.
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OK, Matthew 32 repent for the
Kingdom of God is at hand.
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Let's you hear that?
That's I think Jim Carrey quotes
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that on some Ace Ventura movie,
but I digress.
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That's great.
And you you mentioned this
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because?
It's in popular culture.
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It's yeah, yeah, especially,
yeah, especially people, people
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have heard that and even you
were mentioning this at the top.
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Do you, do you have something on
your mind about Kingdom of
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Heaven versus Kingdom of God?
I know that people make a
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distinction about it and
sometimes and it, I'm sure some
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people will be like, OK, pot,
you know, welcome to the kettle
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or something for me saying this,
but I think sometimes people
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maybe overly pick at things and
like try to make a distinction
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that may not be there, but maybe
there is.
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I, I, I haven't done like AI
have not sat down and been like,
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I've got to do a thorough word,
word study of the Kingdom of God
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versus Kingdom of Heaven to try
to sort that out.
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I just know that some people
have and have seen differences,
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but I, I haven't looked closely.
So I I would want to reserve
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judgement, but I'll say it's not
on the top of my.
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List it's yeah, and I think
that's good.
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It's ordering.
I have also not researched it.
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I'll tell you what I've heard
said, which is great just to say
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what you've heard and not have
backed did.
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Greg Coco say.
It yeah, Greg Coco said it.
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So you know what's true I heard
and it was from a it's from a
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good source.
Can't remember what the podcast
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or what I was listening to, but
it was, it was like a reputable
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source.
They were saying you were read
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in Matthew's Gospel, Kingdom of
Heaven.
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It's much more Jewish.
And in that culture, you didn't
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say Kingdom of God because you
didn't say you stayed away from
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saying heaven might represent
God.
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And that's where you see it the
most.
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But I think that aligns, sorry
to interrupt with, because Jesus
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would say, you know, don't swear
by the the temple, don't swear
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by heaven.
So maybe that's they use that
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kind of pseudo language.
It's like a workaround.
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So that that's what I've heard
is the primary.
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I think that doesn't account for
maybe all the time that it's
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used.
But I think if you look at the
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numbers, what I read slash
listened to was that Matthew's
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like the primary offender.
And that's that's like a simple
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explanation.
So, you know, people go go look
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that up.
Very similar to your Matthew 3
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text.
You read Matthew 417, it says
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from that time.
Jesus began to preach saying
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repent for the Kingdom of heaven
is at hand.
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So similar, very similar
language.
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We'll keep moving on.
Luke 10 says he'll be sick in it
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and say to them, the Kingdom of
God has come near you.
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I like this.
We're getting out of the gospel
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because I think you see the high
concentration in the Gospels.
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You still see it in the
epistles, but but a little bit
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less.
Paul writes for the Kingdom of
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God is not a matter of eating
and drinking, but of
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righteousness and peace and joy
in the Holy Spirit.
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00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,880
And then in Colossians, he
writes, he has delivered us from
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the domain of darkness and
transferred us to the Kingdom of
442
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his beloved Son.
So that's just a few scriptures,
443
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,520
but the kingdom's here, baby.
We're in the Kingdom.
444
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,360
Isn't it great?
Right.
445
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,920
Yeah.
So nothing less left to happen.
446
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,680
It's all it's all done.
So you could you could read
447
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those and walk away and say the
Kingdom of God is here and you
448
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,720
wouldn't be wrong by saying the
Kingdom of.
449
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,400
God, in a sense, it is here,
yeah.
450
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,240
Let's look at a few other verses
that will say, you know, though
451
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,600
the Kingdom has been
inaugurated, it has been fully
452
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,000
consumed.
What does Scripture say?
453
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,440
And the confusing thing is like
we read some of these in Matthew
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3 and 4, this this next one
comes out of Matthew 6.
455
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,880
Right, right.
So again, it's the one from the
456
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,440
model prayer.
Your Kingdom come, your will be
457
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,800
done on earth as it is in
heaven.
458
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,960
So it's praying that it will
come here and be maybe even more
459
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,000
fuller.
Yeah, and it's interesting that
460
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,760
he says he starts out saying
either John the Baptist, Jesus,
461
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320
repent, Kingdom is here, and
then he's like, it's not here.
462
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,040
Like after, you know, and I
don't know that Matthew's going
463
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,640
total chronological, but it's
interesting in the same gospel,
464
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,520
he's going kind of back and
forth.
465
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,400
John 3 familiar text with
Nicodemus.
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00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,320
Truly, truly, I say to you,
unless one is born again, he
467
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,200
cannot see the Kingdom of God.
And John's kind of this outlier
468
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,920
against the synoptic gospels
where it doesn't talk as much
469
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,680
about the Kingdom of God, but it
talked a lot about being this
470
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,760
born again imagery that's a
little bit different, but
471
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,960
speaking to the same thing in
here.
472
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680
It's like clearly clearly
connected.
473
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,960
Second, Peter 111 says, For in
this way there will be richly
474
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,880
provided for you an entrance
into the eternal Kingdom of our
475
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,720
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
So there seems to be something
476
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that needs to be done to gain
insurance because it's not not
477
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,200
here.
And then Revelation 11/15 says
478
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,120
the Kingdom of the world has
become, has become the Kingdom
479
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,880
of our Lord and of his Christ,
and he shall reign forever and
480
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,080
ever.
Yeah, that's a good one.
481
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,120
You know what that's from, don't
you?
482
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,120
What's that from?
Hallelujah Chorus.
483
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,120
I was like, there's no, I was
like anachronistically.
484
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,560
That's not one of the rings.
I was like trying to rap.
485
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,480
I was like.
Where's that one of the rings?
486
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,320
And.
I guess it's not from the
487
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,280
Halloween chorus.
The Halloween chorus took that
488
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,120
from there.
But man, that's a that's a a
489
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,560
huge, you know, the music comes
down and you know, the Kingdom
490
00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,160
of the world has come and it's
like, look, it's just, it's just
491
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,840
like it's like, oh, it's here.
It's like this fanfare.
492
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,800
It's probably one of the best
songs ever, right?
493
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280
Honestly, no shade.
Great song.
494
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,680
I and also if you don't know
this by now, I do.
495
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960
One of my sin issues is I do
like being a contrarian
496
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,120
sometimes and that's like I'm
getting better than when I was
497
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,000
in high school.
I was the worst.
498
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,360
I would always just, you know,
fight people.
499
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,800
But I thought it might be
helpful because you talked about
500
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,840
this in our worship service
yesterday, like we're talking
501
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,840
about this already, not yet,
because that that's basically
502
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,640
what we just looked at is the
kingdom's here, but not yet
503
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,800
totally.
Yeah.
504
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,320
So to kind of talk what I was
talking about.
505
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,160
Yeah, I think that was.
Great.
506
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Yeah.
So, well, really, this, our
507
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640
worship was motivated out of the
tragedy in Texas.
508
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,440
So we're recording about a week
after that camp of girls, you
509
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,920
know, lots of lost life, all
that rain.
510
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,440
And Jill just asked if we could
sing that song that we ended
511
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,200
with, which is one day with
which has when we all get to
512
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,920
heaven, tagged onto it.
So I was like, you know, how do
513
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,680
we build that in there?
And I was like, well, yeah, we
514
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,240
are.
We have that one day that we're
515
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,440
looking forward to.
God's been faithful to us.
516
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,680
We opened up with great as thy
faithfulness, and then we sang.
517
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,160
He makes all things new because
that's part of his faithfulness
518
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,480
to us.
And then at this song on that
519
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,120
day by City of Light, all these
great songs has this phrase.
520
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,680
You know, we're going to be
looking forward to that day, but
521
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,200
we're going to keep on singing.
The actual lyrics are we're
522
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080
going to keep on singing on that
day, but it indicates that until
523
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,240
that day is.
Happening.
524
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,600
We have work to do.
We, we are, we are praising him.
525
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,880
We are, we are, we are in the
middle of doing it.
526
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,480
And I was thinking about how
best to communicate it because,
527
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,200
you know, we talk about this,
the mountain range, but it's not
528
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,520
always easy to verbalize it.
So that I'm sitting down and I
529
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,640
look up because we're about to
start our VBS slash Bible camp.
530
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,160
And we have like these, you
know, mountain ranges from, you
531
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760
know, the Midwest because it's
like a Western theme.
532
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,640
So it's not like the Rockies,
but it's like those, you know,
533
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,640
the, the, I don't know, like
what you'd find in New Mexico
534
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,520
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you could clearly see, you
535
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,840
know, a closer Ridge and then a
higher Ridge that was farther
536
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,240
behind.
And maybe there's something
537
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,280
continuous in between them.
Right.
538
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,080
Yeah.
Or, but maybe there's like this
539
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,480
big valley there that you can't
see in between them.
540
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,680
You can't really tell from that
vantage point, from that
541
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,560
picture.
You're not close enough yet to
542
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,440
see the distance between that
closer peak and that big peak.
543
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Is it all one thing or is?
There some separation.
544
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Yeah.
That's such a good picture
545
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,080
because you can imagine like
when you're a kid, like running
546
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,800
up this big hill and you're
like, oh, this is like it looks
547
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,080
so close, this like house or
whatever this sport you're
548
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,160
running to.
But I think I think that's great
549
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,560
where the prophets, you know,
prophesying, it's like did not
550
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,360
necessarily see that, but that's
kind of where we find ourselves.
551
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,760
Yeah.
So just tie that off like we're
552
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,040
in that valley right now.
We're in between the, the, the
553
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,400
inauguration of the new covenant
and, and I think new covenant is
554
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,560
probably closely synonymous with
the idea of the Kingdom, the
555
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,280
Kingdom of God.
So that's been kicked off, it's
556
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,280
been inaugurated, but it hasn't
been fully consummated with the,
557
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320
the final return.
And so we're in this already not
558
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,920
yet time period.
And that that is great.
559
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,080
What's talk core themes of
Kingdom theology.
560
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,440
If there is a Kingdom, you
would, And I'm trying to think
561
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,120
this other this I was listening
to, I was listening to a lot of
562
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,880
podcasts.
This was weeks ago, man.
563
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Maybe I'll look this up because
I'm just babbling.
564
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,160
But it was like the way Kingdom
is translated, I don't know the
565
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520
way in the English from the
Greek that something gets lost
566
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,080
where our minds a lot of times
do think more.
567
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,080
We think less rain, but more.
This is where I'm at.
568
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,560
I'm rolling over the United is
it?
569
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,440
Arcade.
Maybe it's that.
570
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Maybe.
It's Arcade.
571
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,720
Arcade has this idea of
beginning and kind of setting
572
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,320
the architecture and the rule,
the kind of the boundary of what
573
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,240
a what it would be.
So I I might you know rulership
574
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,320
is sometimes.
Yeah, no, that's like a better.
575
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,160
And I think with our English
translation, it has been Kingdom
576
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,640
that's like just in the English,
the way we talk.
577
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,960
And it's like it should be more
reign, rulership, something.
578
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080
And that that captures it better
because I think it's easy to be
579
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Kingdom and you just
automatically think, oh, there's
580
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,200
this Kingdom in Germany.
And it's like so, so physical
581
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,240
that that's great.
I'm glad you know what you're
582
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720
talking about.
Hopefully you you think there's
583
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,200
a Kingdom, you know, there is a
king.
584
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,440
And so everything is connected
to this king.
585
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Right.
And in the same way, like
586
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840
there's a rulership, there's a
ruler, yeah, there's got to be
587
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,160
someone who's in charge.
And.
588
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840
And I think that that that
arcade is just one of those
589
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,840
great words because it's because
you think of architect
590
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920
architecture, all the things
that we're laying the foundation
591
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,720
and then the reality has to sit
in on that.
592
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,800
And so, you know, God created
everything.
593
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,360
He's the ruler, He's the
beginning.
594
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,240
RK also has the, you know, like
the archaeological has that root
595
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,120
because it's like we're going
back to the beginning.
596
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,200
So God is the beginning.
He said all this stuff you know,
597
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,760
down and, and it's his rulership
that ultimately is he's building
598
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,680
up.
I, I love that and I think that
599
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560
helps us think about it more.
Luke 1 talking about this king,
600
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,000
says that this king, he will
reign over the House of Jacob
601
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,040
Forever and of his Kingdom there
will be no ends.
602
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,360
Matthew 28 says all authority in
heaven and on earth has been
603
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,720
given to me.
Jesus is talking about him
604
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
having all this authority.
And then Revelation 19 towards
605
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
the end of our New Testament, on
his robe and on his thigh he has
606
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,480
a name written, King of Kings.
So.
607
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560
Tattoos are fine is what I got
from that.
608
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Yeah, Leviticus.
Yeah, get out of here.
609
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Revelation has spoken and you
see everything with the King
610
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Kingdom.
If you just tie it to Jesus, it
611
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080
helps, helps us think about it
more.
612
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Let's talk the nature.
Of the Kingdom.
613
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,240
This Kingdom is hidden,
subversive and transformative.
614
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Let's look at some of these
passages that talk about, you
615
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160
know, what's the you know, I
think Jesus does a good job of
616
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,560
giving us all these analogies.
Matthew 13 says the Kingdom of
617
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,120
heaven is like treasure that's
hidden in a field.
618
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,280
And he'll go on to talk about
people, like, selling everything
619
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,960
for that again.
Later on, he'll say, again, the
620
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Kingdom of heaven is like a net
that was thrown into the sea.
621
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Very.
That's interesting.
622
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Interesting.
Yeah, that it's pulling out some
623
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,200
things.
And other yeah.
624
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,040
That's right.
Yeah.
625
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Yeah.
That's that's a great picture
626
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,320
like to ponder and be like, OK,
I think that helps maybe inform
627
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,080
a lot of maybe some of your
other theologies too.
628
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Like keeping going, Luke 13
says, what is the Kingdom of God
629
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,240
like?
It is like a grain of mustard
630
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,120
seed.
So I've even looted that one
631
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,520
earlier.
Didn't know it was in your nuts.
632
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,640
So.
You nailed it.
633
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,400
And this is one of those, you
know, I think this is going to
634
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920
maybe we can do a separate
podcast down the road, but this
635
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720
is the one you're ever talking
to a post meal person and you're
636
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160
like, how can you think the
world's getting better and
637
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,120
better?
And they're like Kingdom of
638
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,600
God's like a mustard seed
brother.
639
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,720
It's growing like we're we're
we're going towards this golden
640
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
age.
Of course post meal is the way.
641
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,360
And then you hit him with John
1836.
642
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,280
My Kingdom is not of this world.
But but those are interesting
643
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080
passages and I think it speaks
to the complexity or trying to
644
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,160
like grapple with this Kingdom.
And this is a totally different
645
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,640
podcast, but we're doing the
Sunday school on, you know,
646
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,160
persecuted church and that kind
of thing.
647
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320
And it is very which.
Somehow I've missed both of
648
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680
those.
Yeah, and maybe I would like to
649
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,840
do a Sunday school, I mean a
podcast on some of this because
650
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,000
it's it's hard for me to wrap my
mind around it where persecution
651
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,840
is bad persecution, Christian is
getting persecuted a lot.
652
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,120
This inter compared a lot.
And then you also look
653
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
statistically from a numeric
standpoint, we've got more
654
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,080
Christians today than ever
before.
655
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440
At the same time, maybe not as a
percentage cause the world, but
656
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
it's like it's like.
But gross numbers but.
657
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,920
Gross number, it's like 2 point
something professing billion
658
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Christians.
It's like, you know, and so you
659
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,480
see these people making their
different arguments.
660
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,960
I mean like the gospel's crowing
so much in Africa and Asia and.
661
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,080
Maybe it is about the same
percentage though, because.
662
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760
It's not, it's not dramatically
different, yeah.
663
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,120
You know all the believers of
the past are not truly
664
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,000
believers.
Yeah, no, that, that, that's the
665
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,200
other thing.
More more proclaiming than
666
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,880
professing.
And then what I've been
667
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,880
grappling with, it's like, it's
great.
668
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Everyone's up in a different
perspective.
669
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Well, this that, let's make that
a different podcast.
670
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,240
I'm going to go off on a
tangent.
671
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120
Let's talk about who's in this
Kingdom, who belongs to the
672
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960
Kingdom, Entrance to the Kingdom
we're going to see is by new
673
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,280
birth, humility, child.
Like faith.
674
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Matthew 5 says blessed are the
poor in spirit, for theirs is
675
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840
the Kingdom of heaven.
From the sermon on the mounts,
676
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Matthew 18 unless you turn and
become like children, you'll
677
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880
never enter the Kingdom of
heaven.
678
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400
John 3 unless one is born again,
he cannot see the Kingdom of
679
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,400
God.
In first Corinthians.
680
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Looking at Paul, do you not know
that the unrighteous will not
681
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800
inherit the Kingdom of God?
So it kind of gives you a good
682
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,520
picture of who's who's in, who's
out.
683
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Yeah.
And striking that three of these
684
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,320
well two of them talk about
children and then and then the
685
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:55,000
first one's is poor in spirit.
I wonder if the Luke kind of
686
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360
parallel to that one where it
just says poor do they?
687
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Also is theirs also the Kingdom
of heaven?
688
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Only one way to find out.
We should, we should.
689
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,880
We should look at that while I
pull that up.
690
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880
I'll talk about the proclamation
of the Kingdom.
691
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Because you would think if it if
there is a Kingdom, I feel like
692
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,480
that's very Kingdom languages
this heralding this good news
693
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600
of.
These people have, if not
694
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,720
trumpets, I mean if not tuba is
probably trumpets proclaiming
695
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,120
the Kingdom.
As for you James, Adam, Jesus
696
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,720
and the apostles herald the
Kingdom as both like here and
697
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720
near and urgent, but still yet
to come.
698
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Mark 115 says repent and believe
in the gospel.
699
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Acts 2831 says proclaiming the
Kingdom of God and teaching
700
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,120
about the Lord Jesus Christ with
all boldness and without
701
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920
hindrance.
So you see both of those kind of
702
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,360
going forth.
I found this parallel passage.
703
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Luke 620 says blessed are you
who are poorer for yours is the
704
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Kingdom of God.
So we we see that going back to
705
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,920
the proclamation of the Kingdom.
I like this.
706
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280
It's like, from my
understanding, if you go back
707
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,920
to, you know, Roman times here,
that that this is a thing you
708
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,960
herald the emperor.
It's like, yeah.
709
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,040
It's like this thing that you
do.
710
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,000
So this is this is the kind of
language that would resonate
711
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,240
with people in the day of like,
oh, you know, Caesar's conquered
712
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,280
this and it's great.
It's like no, Jesus Christ has
713
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920
conquered.
And you can see this is very
714
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,560
strong language ushering in the
Kingdom.
715
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
And then what we look forward to
the consummation of the Kingdom.
716
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,680
We're going back to Daniel 2.
Old Testament says the God of
717
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,480
heaven will set up a Kingdom
that shall never be destroyed.
718
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400
First Corinthians 15 says then
comes the end.
719
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,960
Glad spends a lot of time on
this for his historic Capri
720
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
mill.
When he delivers the Kingdom to
721
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,440
God the Father after destroying
every rule and every authority
722
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,680
and power and he's going to base
a lot of his millennial reign
723
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,920
on, you know, when it's Jesus
reigning.
724
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,080
He's got to destroy everything
in totality, every rule, every
725
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520
authority, death and revelation
says behold 21, three and four
726
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520
says, behold, the dwelling place
of God is with man.
727
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,040
He will wipe away every tear and
that will be a good sign.
728
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360
The Kingdom has been consummated
a little little difference than
729
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120
it does today.
So we've talked about
730
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:16,120
proclamation and consummation.
And if I use those terms away
731
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,040
from here, I said, hey, there is
something proclaimed and then a
732
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,960
time later it was consummated.
You might think of a wedding and
733
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,800
a marriage, right, Right.
And that, that same imagery is
734
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,800
used throughout and, and, and
the Jewish sense that would
735
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719
that's, you know, you'd have
this Patrolville, you'd have
736
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,159
this wine ceremony.
The father of the groom would go
737
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,400
out and seek whom he thought was
a suitable spouse for his son
738
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,560
and he would drag her.
Can I use those words?
739
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:52,719
Be careful.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
740
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
I.
Got you to to mimic.
741
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
You know you can't come unless
the Father.
742
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Brings.
You and he would take her too
743
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,360
and he would say, you know, and
then they would accept each
744
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600
other and they would do that by
drinking wine and that would
745
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:13,040
proclaim we're betrothed.
And then the groom would go off
746
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,480
for a period of time and worked
on the House.
747
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Often times like renovating the,
you know, the whatever portion
748
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,920
of his father's house he would
go and then he would come back
749
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,320
and there would be the
celebration and then the
750
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,400
consummation and and then it'd
be in those fullness.
751
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Oh, I love that.
That's such a good picture.
752
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Yeah.
When we went to Israel, it was
753
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,880
like, you could see like we're a
house, Like you could see like
754
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,320
this, like, hey, here's the Suns
and they're subdividing and all
755
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,480
this stuff.
But that.
756
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,880
I like that because that does.
That's a good picture of his
757
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,880
Kingdom.
OK, but not.
758
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,120
This is that's where we're at
we're like in that in that
759
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,040
state.
That's a good way to think about
760
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,560
it.
Some things to think through.
761
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,400
We've talked about some of these
this already not yet framework.
762
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920
The present reality is that the
Kingdom has broken in but
763
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,920
there's this future hope where
full victory over death sin and
764
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,840
Satan still to come.
Hebrews 2 doesn't say talk about
765
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
the Kingdom of God per SE, but
it says in verse 8.
766
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,800
At present we don't see
everything that's objection to
767
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Him yet, but and.
If you pair that up with the
768
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Corinthians passage we just
talked about, you know, yeah.
769
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Beautiful, you mentioned this
modernism dragging, you know,
770
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
it's this net that's cast that
you've got to be born again.
771
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,240
It's hard to you know when
you're born ready or not.
772
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:31,880
Here you come, right?
Ephesians 2 classic text verse
773
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,760
8:00 and 9:00 For my grace,
you've been saved through faith.
774
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,960
It's a gift of God.
We look at the Kingdom of God
775
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
and I think people can
prioritize different things.
776
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,480
You know, if you look at the
maybe liberal theologians, if
777
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200
they're going to take anything
from the Kingdom of God, they're
778
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,760
going to talk about the ethical
implications and this the
779
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,800
justice.
We'll see.
780
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,000
The Beatitudes summarizes
Kingdom ethic pretty, pretty
781
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,480
well.
We read about the fruit of the
782
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,880
spirit.
Those in the Kingdom are going
783
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,880
to live a certain way and then
the Kingdom is expanding.
784
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080
We talked about that.
That's the church is not the
785
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,960
Kingdom, but the church is used
by God.
786
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,920
To bring in the.
To bring in the Kingdom, yeah.
787
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,200
That's very nice.
I like that so much.
788
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Matthew 28/19/20, Acts 1/8, this
great, Great Commission to make
789
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,280
disciples.
This is what we do.
790
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,680
And in this Kingdom there will
be justice and mercy.
791
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,760
We see.
It's a lot of these Old
792
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,520
Testament texts are really, you
know, looking forward to when
793
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,760
things will be made right.
And so when I think of the
794
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Kingdom versus the church, I
think I was thinking through
795
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
this too, is like, you know, the
church is called to do certain
796
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,880
things, but the church is not
necessarily the Kingdom where,
797
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,200
you know, in your workplace or
you know, you're teaching,
798
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,240
you're not acting in your church
capacity, but you are bringing
799
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:49,800
the Kingdom to to the world.
And so see how how God uses
800
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,000
that.
So we've got got this chart,
801
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Michael, if I don't know if you
want to run through this and
802
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,920
give your thoughts on it about
some common misunderstandings
803
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
about the Kingdom of God and and
some corrections.
804
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Yeah.
So one of the common
805
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,480
misunderstandings is that the
Kingdom is only future.
806
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,040
And I think we've kind of talked
this a lot, that in a sense it
807
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,920
is future, the fullness of it is
future, but in a sense it's here
808
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,120
with us now.
Kingdom is only political.
809
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040
And that is the Kingdom will be,
in a sense, political because we
810
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,400
think, you know, Jesus is going
to come down.
811
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,440
He's going to set up his rule
and reign, but that rule and
812
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,240
reign is not just a political
boundary, but it's also, you
813
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,240
know, his spiritual the
awakening.
814
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:36,000
And we just talked about the
ethical things about it break
815
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,320
here.
And if you want to, the Kingdom
816
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
is not equal to the church.
We talked about that.
817
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,280
And if you go back to I was even
thinking about this when you
818
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,840
were just talking about, you
know, the church kind of helps
819
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,720
usher in, but you know, the
bride and the groom, the, you
820
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,680
know, the the bride that
marriage is not the bride
821
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,600
herself.
But maybe she's like going out
822
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,240
and talking like, hey, this is
going to happen.
823
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,320
This is big.
You need to come to the wedding.
824
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's good because I'm,
825
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,640
I'm always hesitant to be like,
I'm building the Kingdom of God.
826
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,280
It's like God uses me.
I'm trying.
827
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,600
I always try to be careful with
that too, but I think that's a
828
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,680
good way.
It's like, yeah, you're telling
829
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,600
people all about the Kingdom of
God.
830
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,040
That's so good.
The Kingdom is internal only,
831
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,360
no, it's both inward for us, but
it's cosmic.
832
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,400
It's but it's his rule and reign
over all creation going back to
833
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,760
that Corinthians passage.
And then the Kingdom will bring
834
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,200
moral reform.
And that is true.
835
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,280
But it's also like this, you
know, to be in it, you kind of
836
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,840
already have to have that
supernatural rebirth that we
837
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,480
talked about to, to to be in it.
So and it's that spirit enabled
838
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,840
living.
We talked about the fruit of the
839
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,240
spirit.
And that is to harken back to
840
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,360
our banter.
One of my pet peeves when people
841
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,800
say fruits of the spirit and you
passed, you said fruit of the
842
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,200
spirit.
Now, because I'm right there
843
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,800
with you, Revelations, don't
tell me you've been written
844
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Psalms one O 3.
You were written Psalm one O 3.
845
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,400
That's great.
I love it.
846
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,640
Here's a definition at the end
that I was going back and forth
847
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120
and like putting together
different sources and basing it
848
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,640
on this conversation that
ChatGPT may have helped me put
849
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,760
together some of George Ladd's
thoughts with some of my
850
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,800
thoughts, with some of, you
know, Piper's thoughts and these
851
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,600
things.
And we came up with the Kingdom
852
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,200
of God is the dynamic sovereign
reign of God breaking into human
853
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,360
history through Jesus Christ.
It's not a location, but the
854
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,080
redemptive rule of God wherever
His will is done.
855
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,880
The Kingdom was inaugurated in
Jesus first coming, is present
856
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440
through a spirit and the church,
and will be consummated at his
857
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,400
return.
Entrance into the Kingdom
858
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,920
requires repentance, faith, and
new birth.
859
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Kingdom citizens live under
Christ's lordship, displaying
860
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,080
the ethics of the age to come.
I like that definition because
861
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,160
it kind of hits like all of
these different things.
862
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
And I'm like, oh, I like that
because it is tricky.
863
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,800
Like once you start talking
about it, there's so you know,
864
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,840
there's so many different
verses.
865
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,280
So what I'm excited about next
podcast on the Kingdom of God.
866
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:55,000
I just want to trace this kind
of motif throughout scripture,
867
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,480
especially in the light of Ezra,
Nehemiah.
868
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,400
It's like, this is what this is
what they thought they were
869
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,800
ushering in and they didn't.
And so while that was on her
870
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,000
mind, I was like, Oh, this is
perfect to kind of look at this
871
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,920
big picture topic and then let's
look through Scripture and just
872
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,840
hit all the high points where
this theme is like everywhere
873
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,120
you turn you see this kingship.
Motif Yeah, that's good.
874
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,400
That's good.
I think this will preach.
875
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,520
I think you you when, whenever
jaws out next time you just
876
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,080
preach on the Kingdom of God.
Hey, maybe I will.
877
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,760
Maybe I will.
We'll see.
878
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,760
I shouldn't commit to anything,
but yeah, you know, we'll see.
879
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,080
We'll see what happens on any
closing thoughts on the Kingdom
880
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,200
of God.
No, it's here and we want it to
881
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,680
be more here.
Oh, I love it.
882
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,320
That's our take.
Thanks for listening to Take
883
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Two.
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884
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
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885
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,720
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